I'm going to drop out of college.

[Oneironaut]

Sorry for the long post, but there's a lot on my mind...

I've been here at college for three years, and if I wanted to continue I would only have to study one more year for my diploma. I've gotten excellent grades here (never below a B). I've been on the dean's list every semester and last semester I even got straight A's. So why am I dropping out?

First, you've got to understand a little about my situation. Three years ago I decided to go to college, but it wasn't really where I wanted to be. The only reason I did go was because my parents had always expected me to. I was (and still am) an intelligent person, and they didn't want to see a mind as bright as mine deprived of a college education. And since I don't like confrontation, I just went along with their expectations without even mentioning that I didn't want to.

For the past three years I've been living in the dorms, and I've been lucky enough to live without roommates every time due to my good grades. However, this time I forgot to open up a piece of mail and now it's too late to register for a room next semester. I'll either have to find an apartment near campus, or settle for what's left in the dorms after everybody who's allowed to register picks a room. One thing is for certain though: I will most likely have to move in with some random strangers, something I'm not too keen about since I'm a pretty introverted person and I go crazy if I don't get several hours of solitude every day. But that's not the only reason I don't want to come back next year. Before I learned that, I was having a hard time deciding whether or not I want to drop out. That was just the straw that broke the camel's back.

There are three reasons that people go to college: social reasons, intellectual reasons, and occupational reasons. After examining these three things and their relevance to my life, I've figured out that college isn't doing anything to make my life better.

1) The social reasons. People go to college because they want to hang out and party with people their own age. However, I don't have a social life here. I don't have one single friend. True, this is probably my fault for not going out and meeting people as often as I should, but I could go meet people anywhere. I don't need to be at college to do that. My mom seems to think moving in with random people is going to improve my social life, but I don't agree. I think I need to start meeting people and befriend the ones I like, not move in with a bunch of random strangers picked for me and try to see if I can tolerate living with them before I leave them forever.

2) The intellectual reasons. People go to college to study the things they're interested in. That's why I chose linguistics as my major. However, I don't feel intellectually stimulated and I most definitely don't enjoy learning here. Even when I take a course on a topic I'm interested in, the forced readings, tests, quizzes, and homework are more than enough to suck all the fun out of it and turn it into hellish, grueling work. I can't have fun doing something when I'm being coerced into doing it. Most of the information forced upon me is boring anyways, and I'll probably end up forgetting it once I'm not required to know it anymore. As for the few interesting things that I'm learning here, I could easily learn them on my own just by reading some books.

3) The occupational reasons. This is the only conceivable reason why I might want to spend another year here. A college diploma is supposed to get you a good job, right?

I know for certain that I'm not getting anything at all out of my education in linguistics. Besides the fact that I hate it, I'm not learning any practical information that can be used in any job that I can think of. Knowing the psychological, social and structural properties of human language isn't a profitable skill. You just can't get a job where you have to know this stuff (except for linguistics professor).

It is important to recognize the difference between linguistics and languages. Getting a linguistics diploma here doesn't require that you do any special study of foreign languages besides the basic general education requirements which I fulfilled before I even got to college. Linguistics is just an intellectual pursuit with hardly any real practical use. The foreign languages I'm learning, on the other hand, are a real practical skill. However, I feel I could learn them much better and faster on my own, if I didn't have to learn at the same pace as the rest of the class.

My only real marketable professional skill is my knack for foreign languages. There are only two things I can think of doing with that: teach foreign languages and translate. I don't want to teach, because that requires special extra training that I don't really want to go through; I want to get out into the world as soon as possible. However, I could see myself translating. But what does it take to make money translating? I've been reading material by professional translators about what it takes to get into translating seriously. There seems to be three things that people hiring translators look for: 1) a near-fluent command of the necessary languages, 2) good writing skills, and 3) experience in translating. A college degree isn't going to land you the job, and not having one isn't going to really influence anything so long as you can produce quality translations. I could easily be outdone by a natively bilingual high school dropout.

Currently, my translating skills aren't nearly good enough to translate for money. My best foreign language is French and I still have difficulty conversing in it. I am far from being near-fluent. This isn't going to change as long as I live in an English-speaking society. My skills just aren't going to be applicable until I can move to another country and learn to speak a foreign language really well. The sooner I get out of college, the sooner this can happen.

As for other jobs, the US Department of Labor says that by 2010, two-thirds of the projected job openings will require only on-the-job training. As for the remaining third, most of them are going to require some sort of specialized college education like medicine, teaching or business.

Also, the jobs that require a college diploma are higher-level jobs which require more effort. But I'm happy not having a lot of money and staying at the bottom of the corporate ladder, since I don't have a lot of needs. I'd like to live a frugal life and be happy where I am instead of wasting my time in the rat race constantly chasing more money and material possessions. I don't really want a high paying job since getting a lot of money and accumulating a lot of shit just isn't one of my life goals. I'd much rather be a truck driver or a mailman than a rich but stressed out university professor or business manager. I don't think that having more money or a higher level job will actually make me happier; psychologists have shown that people have the same average level of happiness no matter what income they earn. At least as a truck driver or mailman I would have my brain to myself for the day.

Dropping out is going to be the easy part. I just have no reason to stay here. I hate it here, and I'm not getting anything out of this place. The hard part will be telling my parents. They think having a college diploma is really important, especially for people as bright as myself. They also seem to have some fantasy that I'm going to become the next Bill Gates (not realizing that Gates himself is a college dropout). But I just don't want a lot of money.

It's going to break their hearts, and there's not much I can do about that. This is my decision to make and I'm going to do what I think is going to make me happiest. I just need to find a good way to break the news to them. Any suggestions?

[kiwi]

:( I have given this a bit of thought and all I can come up with is the fact that it is only 1 more year of you life!!!!! Even if you feel like you are there for all the wrong reasons you really owe it to yourself to see it though to the end. Do you really want to look back on your life in a few years and say"What If"? :confused: Start as you mean to finish, cos with most things in life you get 1 shot.:thumbsup:

[Oneironaut]

:( I have given this a bit of thought and all I can come up with is the fact that it is only 1 more year of you life!!!!! Even if you feel like you are there for all the wrong reasons you really owe it to yourself to see it though to the end. Do you really want to look back on your life in a few years and say"What If"? :confused: Start as you mean to finish, cos with most things in life you get 1 shot.:thumbsup:
With all things you only get one shot. I can't change the past, and no matter what I decide to do I'll be able to wonder what might have been. But I don't dwell on things like that. I can't predict what would have happened, and I can't predict the future. What if I die one year from today? I don't want to have spent the last year of my life where I don't want to be. What if I stay and my life is miserable because I didn't do something or meet someone that I would have had I dropped out?

What I do know is whether or not I stay, I'm not going to get a high paying job. And if I do leave, I'll be able to save a lot of money that I would otherwise pay on a year of learning things I hate to learn in a place I hate to be.

[SyR1S]

Dude stay in, its only 1 year of your life i mean, it wont hinder u at all just to stay one more year, you can only gain from that. As for socailizing, moving in with a random person most likely will grant you more friends, meeting random people is how u get friends. Start going out to all the parties people have (if your wanted there) bring some nice chron and share it with everyone and talk and make friends and then when ur done college, you can relax and atleast you will have SOME more options.

[SomeGuy]

Yeah think about it this way...YOu dont really loose much if you stay another year..
if you drop out...2 years of your life will have been wasted plus you dont have a college diploma..ehich looks nice on all job aps no matter what its in..
Stay another year man...

[Oneironaut]

Dude stay in, its only 1 year of your life i mean, it wont hinder u at all just to stay one more year, you can only gain from that.
What is there to gain? I think I could gain more by getting out into the world and living my life how I want to live it, not spending most of my time studying things I don't like studying for a diploma I don't think is going to help me.

As for socailizing, moving in with a random person most likely will grant you more friends, meeting random people is how u get friends.
Yeah, meeting them. Not moving in with them. I've heard too many horror stories about horrible roommates. I'm ready to meet people, but I don't want to move in with some random people. There are few people I think I could really tolerate living with.

Start going out to all the parties people have (if your wanted there) bring some nice chron and share it with everyone and talk and make friends and then when ur done college, you can relax and atleast you will have SOME more options.
I can do all that without going to college. And I don't think finishing college is going to give me the kind of options I want. I can't think of a single job I would enjoy that this diploma could get for me.

[nevaquit01]

Dude, I used to be just like you. Except about a year and a half into my college life I got OUT of my dorm room and dealt with the extreme awkwardness of meeting people and I love it now. I have only one year left myself and I am sad its going to be over. Use this last year as one last shot. Get out, meet people, try new things. What do you have to lose? each day is a new chance to change your life for the better. I know theres people on your campus that like to chill and smoke a few bowls. Find them, you'll be glad you did. Don't give up. one more year and you'll have a degree (even if you don't use it) and you may even learn somethign more important than what they teach in class, something about yourself. College is a time to do more than just party and be wild. Its learning who you are. I'm on year 6 and I still think a few more years would do me good. The longer I'm here the more I learn about myself and others. It can only help you to touph it out one more year.

[Aristotle]

There are definately introverted people, but perhaps you're taking this social thing a bit too far. Maybe you just didn't click in high school and by the time you got to college, had no social experience at all? So you're making excuses by saying things like "I need hours of solitude to be sane," to justify your excuses for not wanting to get more social. You just went from being 100% introverted in the beginning of your speech, but by the end you were saying things like "I know I just need to get out and meet people," in which you're only procrastinating.

If you move in with someone else it FORCES you to get more social. My bro was a loser and didn't even go to his Senior Prom, but he's a junior in college right now, moved into a house and parties every weekend. As introverted as they came when he was in high school.

It's definately not too late to start, especially at your age. For Christs Sake, you want to be a TRANSLATOR, one of the first jobs I would think of that requires social and communicational skills. Also, you said yourself it was going to be hard to break into be a translator. You couldn't land a job or even find your own clients in such a competitive business without having confidence.

And as Kiwi said, you owe it to yourself to finish this last year. You worked hard all through grade school, high school and now college, and I'm assuming you had little or no fun through your entire education being as introverted as you are. You're going to throw all of that hard work away just because you want to start translating Spanish for immigration border patrol, making 20 grand a year? Sounds stupid to me.

And no degree is useless, either. Every single college and University in America wouldn't offer large linguistics programs if the degree proved no good.

[VoidLivesOn]

Chances are your roomate would be a complete ditz and stand for everything your against.Someone who leads your sort of lifestyle usually dosn't have a huge basket of friends to pick from.

But if I were you I would suck it up and finish that last year of college.

[Oneironaut]

Yeah think about it this way...YOu dont really loose much if you stay another year..
if you drop out...2 years of your life will have been wasted plus you dont have a college diploma..ehich looks nice on all job aps no matter what its in..
Stay another year man...
I've already wasted 3 years. There's nothing I can do about that. But I want to get out into the world and start living my life the way I want to live it. I'm tired of being stuck here spending most of my day doing schoolwork or recovering from schoolwork. I'm tired of relegating my happiness to some imaginary future where all my present pain and misery will somehow pay off.

The only thing this diploma can do for me is get me a higher level, higher paying job. I don't want the stress and responsibility of a higher level job, and I can't see how having more crap is going to make me happier. I'd rather save some money and start taking control of my life now.

[Oneironaut]

There are definately introverted people, but perhaps you're taking this social thing a bit too far. Maybe you just didn't click in high school and by the time you got to college, had no social experience at all? So you're making excuses by saying things like "I need hours of solitude to be sane," to justify your excuses for not wanting to get more social. You just went from being 100% introverted in the beginning of your speech, but by the end you were saying things like "I know I just need to get out and meet people," in which you're only procrastinating. If you move in with someone else it FORCES you to get more social. My bro was a loser and didn't even go to his Senior Prom, but he's a junior in college right now, moved into a house and parties every weekend. As introverted as they came when he was in high school.
It's not that I don't want to be more social. I've decided that I'm going to go out and meet people. But moving in with people I don't know isn't a risk I want to take. Besides, even if I get a social life going, I'm going to have to leave all my friends forever a few months later.

It's definately not too late to start, especially at your age. For Christs Sake, you want to be a TRANSLATOR, one of the first jobs I would think of that requires social and communicational skills.
I think you're confusing translators with interpreters. Translators handle text, interpreters handle speech.

Also, you said yourself it was going to be hard to break into be a translator. You couldn't land a job or even find your own clients in such a competitive business without having confidence.
True. I need to build confidence, but there's no reason I need to stay at college to do that.

And as Kiwi said, you owe it to yourself to finish this last year. You worked hard all through grade school, high school and now college, and I'm assuming you had little or no fun through your entire education being as introverted as you are. You're going to throw all of that hard work away just because you want to start translating Spanish for immigration border patrol, making 20 grand a year? Sounds stupid to me.
I didn't say I was definitely getting into translating. I just said I was thinking about it. And besides, the border patrol doesn't do a lot of translating; they do interpreting. Translation doesn't actually pay that bad, since there is a high demand for it and not very many people who can do it well.

And even if I don't make that great a salary, so what? I just want to get by and derive happiness from the things that truly matter, not work my ass off just to get more stuff.

And no degree is useless, either. Every single college and University in America wouldn't offer large linguistics programs if the degree proved no good.
Most colleges and universities don't offer large linguistics programs. I chose this one because it was one of the few that did have a linguistics program, and even here it's pretty small. You tell me, what job can you get in linguistics? I can't think of one.

[bedake]

I quit college last quarter completely by choice, go for it

[Oneironaut]

Dude, I used to be just like you. Except about a year and a half into my college life I got OUT of my dorm room and dealt with the extreme awkwardness of meeting people and I love it now. I have only one year left myself and I am sad its going to be over. Use this last year as one last shot. Get out, meet people, try new things. What do you have to lose? each day is a new chance to change your life for the better. I know theres people on your campus that like to chill and smoke a few bowls. Find them, you'll be glad you did. Don't give up. one more year and you'll have a degree (even if you don't use it) and you may even learn somethign more important than what they teach in class, something about yourself. College is a time to do more than just party and be wild. Its learning who you are. I'm on year 6 and I still think a few more years would do me good. The longer I'm here the more I learn about myself and others. It can only help you to touph it out one more year.
I'm going to learn more about the world and myself no matter where I am. I can meet people anywhere. I don't see how college is necessary to do that. What do I have to lose? Well, for one I'll be spending 33% more money on college than I would otherwise, for a diploma that I feel won't do anything for me. Plus, it's not like I won't have anything to put on my résumé. Surely the three years will count for something, right? I don't need the diploma to prove that I'm an intelligent person. Anyone who looks at my grades and SAT scores will know that.

[Oneironaut]

I think you should just suck it up and finish it. It really seems like you're bitching about nothing. Why waste two years and just quit when all it takes is one more year?
Why waste four years when I could have wasted three instead?

Bill Gates may have dropped out of college, but is he happy? Do you know Bill Gates? You can't compare yourself to him.
I'm not comparing myself to Bill Gates. I don't want to be Bill Gates. And as rich as he is, I doubt he's really happy. Which is just one more reason not to spend my life chasing money.

Just focus on the end of the next year. Get through it and that will be that. You'll be able to look back and say you finished college. You'll have completed something not alot of people get to do, and you're so close to doing it. Do it for the people who wish they were in your shoes. Do it for your parents. It isn't just your happiness on the line, and I think you're being too selfish if you quit.
I've been doing things for my parents my whole life. But I'm an adult now and I need to start making my own life decisions. They'll be upset at first but they'll come to accept my decision. Plus, once I start making my own living I won't be a financial drain on my already poor family (which is gaining an extra member later this year by the way).

So anyway, suck it up you baby and finish college.
Thanks for calling me a baby. It really makes me sympathetic to your plea. :rolleyes:

[bedake]

Oniernaut if i were you i would stick out the last year of college, sure you may have all the right reasons to quit school but you only have 1 year left to graduate with a degree in something. plus many jobs dont even bother to look at transcripts, some do but many dont that you will start working at.

[Oneironaut]

But what will that degree get me, besides a higher-level, higher-paying job that I don't want? It was a big mistake to come here in the first place. It just took me three years to realize that. And just because I've already put in three years of hard work doesn't mean I shouldn't correct that mistake now.

[cambam]

You say you would like to learn French more fluently? Is there no exchange courses you can do? i.e. go to France for your final year.

Sure, even the idea of it sounds daunting, BUT its the perfect opportunity to:

A, have more of an intrest in what you are learning
B, its more practical, as you have no choice but to learn and get over the barrier.
C, French chicks are the best.


This is just one half of a big arguament with choices. Weigh everything out as much as you can, and find the best solution.

This may all sound out of context, but I have been awake all night, and there is a possibillity that I ain't thinking straight, but to me, it sounds how I meant it to sound.

[Oneironaut]

I honestly don't give a fuck if you drop out. It's your life. What if this decision is the decision that changes the rest of your life? And what if it is for the worst?
It's not going to ruin my life. It's not like everybody who doesn't have a college degree has a miserable life and they are completely powerless to make it better. I've met several people who say dropping out of school was the best decision they ever made.

You can't go wrong if you get your diploma.
I can if it doesn't ever do anything for me except cost me more money.

If you drop out you'll just be proving to your family and this board what a waste of time the last 3 years of your life was.
So what? It was a waste of time, a hellish waste of time. Why should I deny that? I didn't know better then, but I do now. I have no qualms about admitting that I've made a mistake.

So go ahead and drop out. It makes no difference to me, or anyone else here. Just remember it was your decision. It will be your fault and nobody will sympathize for you in the end. I'm out.
I don't want sympathy. I want happiness and freedom.

[C4nn4Bliss]

Fuck all these people that are saying suck it up. I dont see this forum as the place to be looking for sound advice on this kind of thing. I couldnt comment on it because I dont know you personally but what I can tell you is that my uncle is a german/russian translator/interpreter and he doesnt seem too happy with his job. Only cool thing he did was interpret for the olympics twice. I'd say meditate on it and cut your parents off from your life for awhile, it can really cloud your thoughts. Whatever you decide to do good luck with it man!

[thebathroom]

Drop out.




You obviously don't want the bullshit they have to offer, which is good. Too bad it took you this long to figure it out, three years is a long time. I hope you're not in debt. I was going to go to college this year. I am so glad I didn't. It's a nice feeling to be debt free with a whole life ahead of you.

Good luck in all your future endeavors. :)

[Oneironaut]

You say you would like to learn French more fluently? Is there no exchange courses you can do? i.e. go to France for your final year.

Sure, even the idea of it sounds daunting, BUT its the perfect opportunity to:

A, have more of an intrest in what you are learning
B, its more practical, as you have no choice but to learn and get over the barrier.
C, French chicks are the best.
I considered that, but it's too late to sign up for an exchange program now.


This is just one half of a big arguament with choices. Weigh everything out as much as you can, and find the best solution.

This may all sound out of context, but I have been awake all night, and there is a possibillity that I ain't thinking straight, but to me, it sounds how I meant it to sound.
I already have weighed out my options. I've listed the pros and cons and I've thought this all through very carefully. And I've decided that dropping out is the best of my available options. I simply cannot come up with a single good reason to stay.

[Oneironaut]

Fuck all these people that are saying suck it up. I dont see this forum as the place to be looking for sound advice on this kind of thing. I couldnt comment on it because I dont know you personally but what I can tell you is that my uncle is a german/russian translator/interpreter and he doesnt seem too happy with his job. Only cool thing he did was interpret for the olympics twice. I'd say meditate on it and cut your parents off from your life for awhile, it can really cloud your thoughts. Whatever you decide to do good luck with it man!
Thanks. I think I'll go take a walk and meditate on it right now...

[Toker4LifeVT]

Id say get the diploma and then move on to whatever you want to do man.. might as well get credit for the 3 years your already 3/4 the way done.. take the chance to make some friends. i am sorta in the same boat as you cept i don't go to college i rent a 1 bedroom apartment and live alone... only know a few friends mostly older then me, i never had any friends in HS i know what its like. Anyways good luck with those big decisions in life. :stoned: :thumbsup:

[Oneironaut]

Drop out.




You obviously don't want the bullshit they have to offer, which is good. Too bad it took you this long to figure it out, three years is a long time. I hope you're not in debt. I was going to go to college this year. I am so glad I didn't. It's a nice feeling to be debt free with a whole life ahead of you.
Exactly. I am in debt and I'll have to pay off my student loans, but there's not much I can do about that now. At least I picked the cheapest of my top choices when I was choosing a school.

Good luck in all your future endeavors. :)
Thanks. You too.

[Great Spirit]

I have one more year of college left and I want to get out really. My major is Mass Comm. Thinking of switching to Theology. I still have no idea what I want to do and I hate living with my parents. They smoke cigarettes constantly and the house smells like a big ashtray.

Personally I go to somewhat of an elite school and get a partial scholarship. the girls are pretty cute, but they are mostly stuck up bitches so i dont even pay attention really. its just like high school. i just go to school then go to work so i don't party at all. my concept of party is smoking weed and watching TV. i'm more worried about the 9/11 effects and upcoming war with iran. i get decent grades i guess. no less than a C. its a lot of rich kids in a shitty ghetto so thats ironic. its a catholic school so i love the religion classes.

but i am introverted myself, but not really in a mentally ill way. i have to have solitude. i have to be alone for many hours myself. i am a pisces so its a rule for me! i have friends that i go out with sometimes, but i prefer to be with just one friend at a time or be alone and smoke weed and watch a movie or do my school work.

[Oneironaut]

Ill tell you like my dad told me...... "You drop out after all the money i busted my ass for for 21 years or your life and you tell me your gonna quit? If you dont owe it to yourself you owe it to me and your mother in there. So your either staying in school or you can get the fuck out after the beat down of your life"
My parents aren't paying for my school; I am (in the future). So I don't see what I "owe" them. I'm an adult now, and I have to start making my own independent decisions.

Now at the time i really thought he would have beat the shit out of me. But now i know he just didnt know how else to tell me i was fucking him and myself over.
My parents aren't going to beat me. And if they threatened to, I'd do the exact opposite of what they wanted. If somebody can't explain to me why I should do something and they have to result to childish threats, I'm not going to take them seriously.

I say dont be selfish and do it for your parents at least.
What will my parents get out of it? They aren't going to agree with it, but I can't expect them to like every single thing I do with my life. I have to be myself and live my life the way I want to live it. I can't just bow down to the expectations of other people all the time. I've been doing that my whole life and I'm not going to tolerate it anymore.

I'm not fucking myself over. I really just don't see any positive thing that I can get out of this diploma. I've woken up from the American dream. I've realized that money and "occupational success" are not the same thing as happiness. Happiness comes from living freely, creating beautiful things, nurturing loving relationships, appreciating nature, pursuing hobbies, learning about the world, and a million other things, but not from money.

[nevaquit01]

I think you'll find that not finishing your degree will leave you with little to no ability to find work in your field of choice. My buddy was in CS and had to leave due to financial reasons and even though he's smart as hell with computers, they won't give him much more to do than monkey work because he didn't finish his degree. Take a semester off. Where would you go, what would you do? Try to find a job. See how you like it. Most likely any job you get won't be permanent and will be accepting if you say I've decided to finish up school. By then you could get your single dorm room again. Don't give up on school, it'll just start you down the road of building a habit of giving up. Do what you gotta do to be happy, but you can get out of living with others by just taking a semester off. Go home, chill, smoke some bowls, do some soul searching. Then go back to school when you can get your own room again, have things the way you like it and get'r'done. one more year after that and then you ahve 60-70 years to live in the real world. Myself... I'm in no hurry to join the real world. The real world, no matter how hard you try, has 10x more responsibilities and from the sound of it you don't handle responsibility and stress too well, or haven't learned to yet.

[JunkYard]

I know people who would have killed to be able to attend college! I think you're making a mistake, bro...

Do what you gotta do, but think about it good, and hard before making any decisions of this caliber.

You're talking about your life here...I'd hate to see you screw it up over some fleeting emotional ferver you may be dealing with...

Good luck no matter what you choose, though.

[ledgrower]

yea man im with u...college is for people that want to be conformed to societys standards of living and how u work the next 40 years of your life 9 to 5 in a college getten job....retire....go to a rest home and die....like the movie Layer Cake but in a sence of this aspect.. lifes too short ot do this and to live your life well u have to think beyond the box...unlike college which tells u what to do and where to work after school...im soo with u...im in a 4 year rit now payin godly for somthing that is goin ot setme up in this catch 22...u dont have to have a degree to be success full... as of rit now im dropin off of school and starting a bussiness where ican see it being the next big thing..its just u have to find somthing thats goin to set u apart from just the rest of the "wannabees" and this world and make u free

[Reefer Rogue]

Do what you gotta do bro. :thumbsup:

[d00d989]

The only thing this diploma can do for me is get me a higher level, higher paying job. I don't want the stress and responsibility of a higher level job, and I can't see how having more crap is going to make me happier. I'd rather save some money and start taking control of my life now.

having ANY diploma will help you get ANY job you want. Say that there is a fucking kickass job that you totally want. Theres 3 people that the company is considering hiring. (you behing one of them). The only difference they see between you 3 is that YOU have a college diploma. Who do you think they will choose?

If you want to be an interpreter or translator, having a diploma for that will almost ensure that you get a job doing what you want to do.

[Ripper]

Can u not take a break for a year and go back.....or is that totaly impossible.......It would give you time to think about.......Just an idea but i wouldnt wanna thow away years of work.......I had to walk away from a college course cos well probs and that was only half a year of work i wasted and it still bugs me

Take a break or stick it out but dont give up completely.

As for the need to be more social why do u think you do, Thats some kind of shit put down on people with few freinds by the Popular crowd.

Being a Loner or whatever is not all bad. Im a total drifter, although in drifting from scene to scene pub to pub town to town does actualy build social skills.

If you wanna be more social be more social but dont do it cos u think u need to... Loner does not mean Loser.....its gave me a freedom of movement that all lot of other people don't have and the ability to expess my opinions with no outside influence on them.

Plus i learned the hard way its better to have few freinds you really like or even no friends rather than wasting on time on people who will not return your friendship. Like load you up with there probs then ignore you when you have them.

"Take a load off Annie, Take a load for free.......and you put the load right on me" The Weight - The Band

[Kitty Kat]

I agree with the others, what the hell hang in there & get it. In the long run I think it may be the wiser of the two choices. Who knows you may use that diploma to fall back on someday.

The choice is yours.

:D

[geonagual]

All I can say is "sliding doors"

Do what you want to do

and dont look back

and of course....don't regret anything

[higher4hockey]

do what you want mate, you can always go back to college!!

[toke it up 420]

read the first half then just stoped
sorry, im only in eighth grade
lol

[daima]

Sorry for the long post, but there's a lot on my mind...

I've been here at college for three years, and if I wanted to continue I would only have to study one more year for my diploma. I've gotten excellent grades here (never below a B). I've been on the dean's list every semester and last semester I even got straight A's. So why am I dropping out?

First, you've got to understand a little about my situation. Three years ago I decided to go to college, but it wasn't really where I wanted to be. The only reason I did go was because my parents had always expected me to. I was (and still am) an intelligent person, and they didn't want to see a mind as bright as mine deprived of a college education. And since I don't like confrontation, I just went along with their expectations without even mentioning that I didn't want to.

For the past three years I've been living in the dorms, and I've been lucky enough to live without roommates every time due to my good grades. However, this time I forgot to open up a piece of mail and now it's too late to register for a room next semester. I'll either have to find an apartment near campus, or settle for what's left in the dorms after everybody who's allowed to register picks a room. One thing is for certain though: I will most likely have to move in with some random strangers, something I'm not too keen about since I'm a pretty introverted person and I go crazy if I don't get several hours of solitude every day. But that's not the only reason I don't want to come back next year. Before I learned that, I was having a hard time deciding whether or not I want to drop out. That was just the straw that broke the camel's back.

There are three reasons that people go to college: social reasons, intellectual reasons, and occupational reasons. After examining these three things and their relevance to my life, I've figured out that college isn't doing anything to make my life better.

1) The social reasons. People go to college because they want to hang out and party with people their own age. However, I don't have a social life here. I don't have one single friend. True, this is probably my fault for not going out and meeting people as often as I should, but I could go meet people anywhere. I don't need to be at college to do that. My mom seems to think moving in with random people is going to improve my social life, but I don't agree. I think I need to start meeting people and befriend the ones I like, not move in with a bunch of random strangers picked for me and try to see if I can tolerate living with them before I leave them forever.

2) The intellectual reasons. People go to college to study the things they're interested in. That's why I chose linguistics as my major. However, I don't feel intellectually stimulated and I most definitely don't enjoy learning here. Even when I take a course on a topic I'm interested in, the forced readings, tests, quizzes, and homework are more than enough to suck all the fun out of it and turn it into hellish, grueling work. I can't have fun doing something when I'm being coerced into doing it. Most of the information forced upon me is boring anyways, and I'll probably end up forgetting it once I'm not required to know it anymore. As for the few interesting things that I'm learning here, I could easily learn them on my own just by reading some books.

3) The occupational reasons. This is the only conceivable reason why I might want to spend another year here. A college diploma is supposed to get you a good job, right?

I know for certain that I'm not getting anything at all out of my education in linguistics. Besides the fact that I hate it, I'm not learning any practical information that can be used in any job that I can think of. Knowing the psychological, social and structural properties of human language isn't a profitable skill. You just can't get a job where you have to know this stuff (except for linguistics professor).

It is important to recognize the difference between linguistics and languages. Getting a linguistics diploma here doesn't require that you do any special study of foreign languages besides the basic general education requirements which I fulfilled before I even got to college. Linguistics is just an intellectual pursuit with hardly any real practical use. The foreign languages I'm learning, on the other hand, are a real practical skill. However, I feel I could learn them much better and faster on my own, if I didn't have to learn at the same pace as the rest of the class.

My only real marketable professional skill is my knack for foreign languages. There are only two things I can think of doing with that: teach foreign languages and translate. I don't want to teach, because that requires special extra training that I don't really want to go through; I want to get out into the world as soon as possible. However, I could see myself translating. But what does it take to make money translating? I've been reading material by professional translators about what it takes to get into translating seriously. There seems to be three things that people hiring translators look for: 1) a near-fluent command of the necessary languages, 2) good writing skills, and 3) experience in translating. A college degree isn't going to land you the job, and not having one isn't going to really influence anything so long as you can produce quality translations. I could easily be outdone by a natively bilingual high school dropout.

Currently, my translating skills aren't nearly good enough to translate for money. My best foreign language is French and I still have difficulty conversing in it. I am far from being near-fluent. This isn't going to change as long as I live in an English-speaking society. My skills just aren't going to be applicable until I can move to another country and learn to speak a foreign language really well. The sooner I get out of college, the sooner this can happen.

As for other jobs, the US Department of Labor says that by 2010, two-thirds of the projected job openings will require only on-the-job training. As for the remaining third, most of them are going to require some sort of specialized college education like medicine, teaching or business.

Also, the jobs that require a college diploma are higher-level jobs which require more effort. But I'm happy not having a lot of money and staying at the bottom of the corporate ladder, since I don't have a lot of needs. I'd like to live a frugal life and be happy where I am instead of wasting my time in the rat race constantly chasing more money and material possessions. I don't really want a high paying job since getting a lot of money and accumulating a lot of shit just isn't one of my life goals. I'd much rather be a truck driver or a mailman than a rich but stressed out university professor or business manager. I don't think that having more money or a higher level job will actually make me happier; psychologists have shown that people have the same average level of happiness no matter what income they earn. At least as a truck driver or mailman I would have my brain to myself for the day.

Dropping out is going to be the easy part. I just have no reason to stay here. I hate it here, and I'm not getting anything out of this place. The hard part will be telling my parents. They think having a college diploma is really important, especially for people as bright as myself. They also seem to have some fantasy that I'm going to become the next Bill Gates (not realizing that Gates himself is a college dropout). But I just don't want a lot of money.

It's going to break their hearts, and there's not much I can do about that. This is my decision to make and I'm going to do what I think is going to make me happiest. I just need to find a good way to break the news to them. Any suggestions?

I never stepped foot in a college class and my income averaged about 200g per year. If you have a different idea on what to do with your life then mom and pop had for you, do it. Remember, everything in your life is there because you put it there. What you choose to do with it is up to you. Let your life proceed by its own design. Playing music has always paid my bills, raised my kids, and bought the properties i own. I didnt even know WTF a time-card was until i was 40.
What ever you decide i wish you the best of luck.:thumbsup:

dai*ma:stoned:

[tokinggreg]

You think a diploma won't help you out in life, and honestly, it may or it may not. But the idea is that having a diploma is a kind of job insurance. Just like we all have car insurance to take care of the "what if..." circumstances, we don't intend to get into car accidents, but as many have pointed out before, we never know exactly what life has in store for us. If you were in your first year, I would be telling a slightly different story, but you're almost there. To quit now will not be a testament of strong will (ie fighting the social pressures), but rather you will be a "quitter"-- nothing else.

As to the social situation, I am quite introverted myself; I was really nervous about moving in with random people when I came to college, but I realized it's actually quite an amazing experience. Once you're in the right environment (ie with other people your own age), you'll be able to discover that college has another side to it; there ARE parties, there ARE people, and at that, there are many really friendly people out there.

And.. if your parents are paying for your tuition, then you should finish out of respect, because then that would be three years worth of tuition that they invested in you, and you would just be an ungrateful kid if you dropped out on them. If you have been paying for tuition all along, then this truly is your own decision, but think really long about this; it's a major decision.

[Oneironaut]

You think a diploma won't help you out in life, and honestly, it may or it may not. But the idea is that having a diploma is a kind of job insurance. Just like we all have car insurance to take care of the "what if..." circumstances, we don't intend to get into car accidents, but as many have pointed out before, we never know exactly what life has in store for us.
I know the future is uncertain, but I don't see uncertainty as a good enough reason to stay here. If I find for some reason that I need a diploma to get by in life, I can always go back to school. But I just don't see where I'm going to get with this diploma that I wouldn't be able to get on my own.

If you were in your first year, I would be telling a slightly different story, but you're almost there. To quit now will not be a testament of strong will (ie fighting the social pressures), but rather you will be a "quitter"-- nothing else.
I don't see what's wrong with quitting something I'm not happy doing, something that I don't think will ever contribute significantly to my happiness or well-being.

As to the social situation, I am quite introverted myself; I was really nervous about moving in with random people when I came to college, but I realized it's actually quite an amazing experience. Once you're in the right environment (ie with other people your own age), you'll be able to discover that college has another side to it; there ARE parties, there ARE people, and at that, there are many really friendly people out there.
So? I've also heard lots of horror stories about horrible roommates. I can't tell right now that they're going to be people I can tolerate. I've met lots of people in my life that I know for a fact I would not be able to stand living with.

And.. if your parents are paying for your tuition, then you should finish out of respect, because then that would be three years worth of tuition that they invested in you, and you would just be an ungrateful kid if you dropped out on them. If you have been paying for tuition all along, then this truly is your own decision, but think really long about this; it's a major decision.
I know that. You think this is just a fleeting whim? I'm not one to just jump into something without thinking about it first. Every time I sit down to think about this, I come to the same conclusion: I have to get out of here.

[slave2thagroov]

this issue seems alot bigger than whether or not you should stay in school. it seems like you have some 'personal' things to work out. you are still young and trying to figure things out. i say drop out if you want. getting things right in your life will always be more important than college. i just graduated last summer and i'm 28. i quit after goin for 3 years and took 5 years off and i thank god i dropped out and figured out where i wanted my life to go. figure out your direction before you make your plans. if you do decide to go back-you only have 1 year left and if you are older the government will pay for it. (as many bad things as i have said about the US-but you gotta love those student grants)

[Az.]

Im thinking of dropping out aswell..im not going to go into it now.....but to answer your question....
what job can you get in linguistics?

Anthropology
Consulting
Market Research
Neuroscience
Law
Teaching English as a Second Language
University Faculty
Technology Development
Technical Writing
Dialect Coaching

I know some of these arn't specific jobs, but they are areas you could go into...

As for wether you should drop out or not....at the end of the day it's up to you, do you what you think will make you happy...but you wont really ever know what you missed out on....
so wither way you will always look back on your life and ask "what if?"

lol sorry I couldn't be much help...hope you figure this shit out!

[Skink]

Don't do it!!!!

[Oneironaut]

I've talked it over with my parents, and we've come to a compromise. I am going to transfer to an easier college and major in French instead. At least then I'll feel like I'm learning a useful skill. Thanks for all the advice, guys.

[poorman3]

I've talked it over with my parents, and we've come to a compromise. I am going to transfer to an easier college and major in French instead. At least then I'll feel like I'm learning a useful skill. Thanks for all the advice, guys.
I`m glad I waited to post a reply to this thread. Just because... Your a smart person as far as I can read. You need nothing but, You still want advice or something. You deseve good advice. You will not get any advice from me. You have 3 years college in the bag? Do what you like. I`m glad to hear your going to walk another mile in some diffirent shoes for your parents. I think you have done some thinking and used your thinking process to your advantage to figure it out for yourself. I have read you over at marihemp as well. YEP. Good job man. :thumbsup: Oh yea, I take cash! :stoned:

[bubbles603]

Finish school. It can't hurt you in any way. But without the degree you have basically wasted 3 years and will still be considered only a HS graduate. My best friend was a translator for the UN and had a ball. She traveled all over the country for free, met a ton of people and now has a great job with the Gov't in its Protocol Dept.

[minnesota man]

J'ai pensé vous plaisantaient sur avril premièrement. Je suis content que vous avez atteint une décision. Vous vous intéressez et vous devez trouver quelques vrais amis. Les Cyber-amis sont des genres d'amis imaginaires aimés.

[tootsie roll]

With all things you only get one shot. I can't change the past, and no matter what I decide to do I'll be able to wonder what might have been. But I don't dwell on things like that. I can't predict what would have happened, and I can't predict the future. What if I die one year from today? I don't want to have spent the last year of my life where I don't want to be. What if I stay and my life is miserable because I didn't do something or meet someone that I would have had I dropped out?

What I do know is whether or not I stay, I'm not going to get a high paying job. And if I do leave, I'll be able to save a lot of money that I would otherwise pay on a year of learning things I hate to learn in a place I hate to be.

I have so much to say but I'll be short.
Please think and re-think your decision. You are only one lousey year away from a diploma. A diploma that can make the total difference in your life.

You are so lucky to be in the position you are in right now. I understand that this last year will have some inconviences for you but so what? Just deal with it. You really CAN do it! YOU CAN DO IT!!
Please don't just throw all your hard work away. :(

Just know, life isn't easy and I can promise you, it won't get easier. It's hard work to be an adult. That diploma, will, at some point, make the difference in how you live.

[Oneironaut]

I have so much to say but I'll be short.
Please think and re-think your decision. You are only one lousey year away from a diploma. A diploma that can make the total difference in your life.

You are so lucky to be in the position you are in right now. I understand that this last year will have some inconviences for you but so what? Just deal with it. You really CAN do it! YOU CAN DO IT!!
Please don't just throw all your hard work away. :(

Just know, life isn't easy and I can promise you, it won't get easier. It's hard work to be an adult. That diploma, will, at some point, make the difference in how you live.
I already reconsidered. Read a few posts up.

[Napoleon Blownapart]

dude, do not quit!!! otherwise you'll be wondering for the rest of your life what it would have been like, and what could have happened. I didnt read the whole explanation but no one should quit college because of having to share a room. You never know, the other guy could become your best friend, you just never know

[Oneironaut]

dude, do not quit!!! otherwise you'll be wondering for the rest of your life what it would have been like, and what could have happened. I didnt read the whole explanation but no one should quit college because of having to share a room. You never know, the other guy could become your best friend, you just never know
Please see the post before yours.

[tblueyes]

Minnesota man lol you said you had some bubble gum seeds that you havent done anything with you mind handing them my way to a fellow person from MN?

[minnesota man]

Hey man. That's true. I did say I would send them to you FREE, so I better make good on my word, eh?

I also said they were blueberry (ordered from Heaven's Stairway) plus I'll have to look for them. Send me an email and I'll let you know when I find them. I'll look tomorrow. I think I know where they're at.
[email protected].

By the way, I live in Texas now.

Zandork: Is this what scum does?

[grinthenbearit]

Your parents should understand that pursuit of what makes YOU happy should be what makes them happy ..... not the "social status" of a Bill Gates... after all pressuring the Gates tycoon status would be a put down to all other levels of the "totem pole" that are interdependant upon each other in society. Wouldn't that be just so evil to place that pressure? I certaintly think that is so evil.:dance: :thumbsup:

[grinthenbearit]

just take an attitude of you are there to help him....good head phones and comfortable ear plugs could help with the solitude.

[kevy cola2]

you're socially dumb oneironaut, stop coming too online message boards and move in with some randoms. you need to meet more people dude! and, having a college diploma helps you get any job. it doesn't just show that you're good with inguistics, it shows that you are college material in the first place, somthing that can't be said about all people

[Oneironaut]

Look, people.

I'M NOT DROPPING OUT OF COLLEGE! TRY TO READ THE WHOLE FUCKING THREAD BEFORE YOU SAY ANYTHING!

[slipknotpsycho]

perhaps i'm wrong about this... but you should of made this decision within the first year or so... i mean you've already put 3 years worth the time, money and heart into it, why stop now? that's about all the input i have, i mean if you're not happy, shit needs to change. with all that said i come back to my point, you've already put 3 years worth the work in it, seems kind of pointless to of done all that then want to quit on the last 1/4 mile of it all.. this whole thing could be compared to throwing away a winning lottery ticket... but a bit diffrent concept... like, you have the ticket with all 6 numbers in your hand, you got the first five right, have to get all 6 to win, then you have the choice to choose between giving up, or putting in more work/money to see if you won... if you do try to go for the sixth you may lose your time/money... but you wouldn't ever know until you took the chance.

[slipknotpsycho]

Look, people.

I'M NOT DROPPING OUT OF COLLEGE! TRY TO READ THE WHOLE FUCKING THREAD BEFORE YOU SAY ANYTHING!
btw, sorry in advance i didn't have time to read the whole thread, i apologize, i'm int he middle of getting my ass handed to me on killzone online... so yea... i was just offering up my opinions, since it seemed liek you were lost (by your first post)

[Kitty Kat]

Oneironaut, I think you are making a wise decision in your choice to transfer & continue on, you will be glad that you did.:)

[Fengzi]

Just wanted to say glad to hear your sticking with it. 10 years from now I doubt you'll regret your decision. At least you won't be wondering "what if" for the rest of your life. Plus,who knows, maybe this will be the year that you'll walk into class, sit down, and meet some totally hot sex goddess that you fall in love with and spend the rest of your life together.

[slipknotpsycho]

Just wanted to say glad to hear your sticking with it. 10 years from now I doubt you'll regret your decision. At least you won't be wondering "what if" for the rest of your life. Plus,who knows, maybe this will be the year that you'll walk into class, sit down, and meet some totally hot sex goddess that you fall in love with and spend the rest of your life together.
don't put false dreams into the boys head...

[Oneironaut]

I'm having enough fun with my real dreams. The night before last I had a dream that I took like 8 hits of acid and started tripping balls (never tried it in real life but it seemed fun). And then I had a lucid dream where I was able to fly really really fast. Turns out all you have to do is start running and then lift up your legs.

[slipknotpsycho]

I'm having enough fun with my real dreams. The night before last I had a dream that I took like 8 hits of acid and started tripping balls (never tried it in real life but it seemed fun). And then I had a lucid dream where I was able to fly really really fast. Turns out all you have to do is start running and then lift up your legs.
i thought that's how a blonde gets pregnant...

[Reefer Rogue]

Trés bien. :D

[grinthenbearit]

MODERATORS please reprimend this guy for using the sexual f-word in a uncalled for and offensive mannor towards those who replied to his thread.:mad:

[Reefer Rogue]

MODERATORS please reprimend this guy for using the sexual f-word in a uncalled for and offensive mannor towards those who replied to his thread.:mad:

Don't worry, I'm sure he'll be banned >_>

[slipknotpsycho]

MODERATORS please reprimend this guy for using the sexual f-word in a uncalled for and offensive mannor towards those who replied to his thread.:mad:
... yea... a mod just posted above you, don't you think if they cared he would of took care of any problems he saw in the thread, while he was in the thread, rather then waiting for someone to tell him to do so....
more so, this is a moderation issue, so i do believe your request goes in the moderation/feedback forum...

[robert42]

dont drop out man serious u have ur future in front on u like a open gate to a vine field

oh and heres me usuing 3 sexual words i like foreign cunt fuck wank :)

lol :p ps i know ur not dropping out but the fact that ppl dont read threads make me chuckle

PSS

DONT DROP OUT

:p:D

[Oneironaut]

MODERATORS please reprimend this guy for using the sexual f-word in a uncalled for and offensive mannor towards those who replied to his thread.:mad:
If the word FUCK is too offensive for you to handle, I don't think this is the board for you. People who promote censorship are cocksucking, scrotum-licking, jizz-guzzling unclefuckers.

[Fengzi]

Oneironaut, You are a naughty little boy and should have your mouth washed out with soap. Shame on you and your filthy potty mouth ;)

[grinthenbearit]

relieve your non-subject frustrations away from decent cannabis community members. It is the narrow percentage of cannabis users who are demonic who ruined cannabis' legality in the first place. The more people like you who cease to associate themselves with marijuana the sooner the public voters will not be able to blame marijuana as the scapegoat for societies problems. You sir, are the disgrace to all who seek to legalize cannabis.

Anyone else agree that this "member" should bannish the typed thoughts from his diseased mind and just spend his spare time playing nintendo and the hell away from "a respectable forum"?:confused:

[Oneironaut]

relieve your non-subject frustrations away from decent cannabis community members. It is the narrow percentage of cannabis users who are demonic who ruined cannabis' legality in the first place.
Study some history, would you? It wasn't cannabis users who made weed illegal. It was non-cannabis users in the government looking for a new Prohibition. Particularly Harry Anslinger, who opposed it because it was associated with black jazz musicians and Mexican immigrants. The actions of actual cannabis users had very little to do with it.

The more people like you who cease to associate themselves with marijuana the sooner the public voters will not be able to blame marijuana as the scapegoat for societies problems. You sir, are the disgrace to all who seek to legalize cannabis.
It was a joke. Lighten up, man. Besides, you don't even know me. If you'd bother to read more than three sentences of mine, you'd realize that I'm actually quite a peaceful individual. Just because I use the word "fuck" sometimes doesn't make me a bad person.

In fact, it's fascist tight-asses like yourself who are keeping weed illegal. If people would just stop taking everything so seriously and trying to control other people's words and behavior, maybe we could progress towards a more peaceful society under the motto "live and let live".

Anyone else agree that this "member" should bannish the typed thoughts from his diseased mind and just spend his spare time playing nintendo and the hell away from "a respectable forum"?:confused:
I doubt you'll get very many people to go along with that. I've been here a long time and most people here seem to like me. In fact, I don't think there's anyone here who particularly dislikes me. You've been here for what, less than a week? And already you're coming off as an uptight asshole. Just because this is "a respectable forum" doesn't mean everybody needs to censor their language to fit your fucking speech codes. When I'm angry, I'm going to use some fucking swear words. That's what they were fucking invented for.
SHIT PISS FUCK CUNT COCKSUCKER MOTHERFUCKER TITS

[slipknotpsycho]

relieve your non-subject frustrations away from decent cannabis community members. It is the narrow percentage of cannabis users who are demonic who ruined cannabis' legality in the first place. The more people like you who cease to associate themselves with marijuana the sooner the public voters will not be able to blame marijuana as the scapegoat for societies problems. You sir, are the disgrace to all who seek to legalize cannabis.

Anyone else agree that this "member" should bannish the typed thoughts from his diseased mind and just spend his spare time playing nintendo and the hell away from "a respectable forum"?:confused:

He's got his wits about him... I'll give him that much.. but that's all I'll give him. It's people like you, who put labels on people who, make the world in whole, not just a certain topic going on, bad.

It was illegalized a very time ago, I'm pretty sure not even one member here was born when it was legal, much less, have anything to do with why it was illegalized in the first place.

To say that it's people like him that make it so the general public won't tollerate legalization, would be like saying that the Germans today should be punished for what people did along time ago, just becuase they just happened to be from the same place as their ancestors.

Or it's like saying white people today, should be punished for what people did 300, 400 how ever many years ago it all started, just because we share a skin color.

It's people like you that spread hate, and make this world, a fucking terrible place, in my own opinon.

(Btw, I edited this for those who always tell me that i need to type more 'perfectly' and i struggled and struggled, i'm stoned as hell and i don't care anymore don't get used to that ^^^ but i felt that i needed to write it clear so people could read it... or i'm just really stoned... i dunno :stoned: :stoned: :stoned:)

[slipknotpsycho]

Study some history, would you? It wasn't cannabis users who made weed illegal. It was non-cannabis users in the government looking for a new Prohibition. Particularly Harry Anslinger, who opposed it because it was associated with black jazz musicians and Mexican immigrants. The actions of actual cannabis users had very little to do with it.

It was a joke. Lighten up, man. Besides, you don't even know me. If you'd bother to read more than three sentences of mine, you'd realize that I'm actually quite a peaceful individual. Just because I use the word "fuck" sometimes doesn't make me a bad person.

In fact, it's fascist tight-asses like yourself who are keeping weed illegal. If people would just stop taking everything so seriously and trying to control other people's words and behavior, maybe we could progress towards a more peaceful society under the motto "live and let live".

I doubt you'll get very many people to go along with that. I've been here a long time and most people here seem to like me. In fact, I don't think there's anyone here who particularly dislikes me. You've been here for what, less than a week? And already you're coming off as an uptight asshole. Just because this is "a respectable forum" doesn't mean everybody needs to censor their language to fit your fucking speech codes. When I'm angry, I'm going to use some fucking swear words. That's what they were fucking invented for.
SHIT PISS FUCK CUNT COCKSUCKER MOTHERFUCKER TITS
dude i love reading your posts, you can be funny when you want to be, or when your pissed, which ever it may be.. and you can be insightful :upsidedow


I doubt you'll get very many people to go along with that. I've been here a long time and most people here seem to like me.
Yup, and if anyone dislikes you it'd be Torog, and i'm not even sure he does :eek:

[grinthenbearit]

we all will have you guys to thank for the drag to all the decent people who spend their hard earned money to help legalize through NORML ect. I'm sure unsure voters who are learning about marijuana online will be sure to remember that psychotic personalities like yours will be out of the closet and roming around more if weed is legalized. I hope you "dealers" are proud of your selfish effects on society. How can you be so selfish? What great parents you must have. They probably are the multiple bankruptcy, racist, hypocrital:thumbsup: alcoholic types. So glad you could make it to the forum. Bless you!

[Oneironaut]

we all will have you guys to thank for the drag to all the decent people who spend their hard earned money to help legalize through NORML ect. I'm sure unsure voters who are learning about marijuana online will be sure to remember that psychotic personalities like yours will be out of the closet and roming around more if weed is legalized.
I suffer from psychosis now? Wow, I didn't know you could do such a detailed psychological analysis based on my posts to this forum.

I hope you "dealers" are proud of your selfish effects on society.
I'm a dealer too? Wow, there's so much I didn't know about myself.

How can you be so selfish?
What did I do that was selfish?

What great parents you must have. They probably are the multiple bankruptcy, racist, hypocrital:thumbsup: alcoholic types.
Wow, not only have you analyzed my psychology, you know intimate details about my family life.

If you must know, my parents both have stable jobs, are vehement anti-racists and never drink alcohol. They love me and I love them.

So glad you could make it to the forum. Bless you!
Seriously, dude, what the fuck is your problem with me? If you just want to spew negativity and lies about me, you can't expect me to be nice to you in return. Go fuck yourself, asshole.

[chronic boom]

we all will have you guys to thank for the drag to all the decent people who spend their hard earned money to help legalize through NORML ect. I'm sure unsure voters who are learning about marijuana online will be sure to remember that psychotic personalities like yours will be out of the closet and roming around more if weed is legalized. I hope you "dealers" are proud of your selfish effects on society. How can you be so selfish? What great parents you must have. They probably are the multiple bankruptcy, racist, hypocrital:thumbsup: alcoholic types. So glad you could make it to the forum. Bless you!

what the shit? you got a degree in critical sociology there dick tits? or are you just some God fearing putz with your head so far up your ass that you don't even come close to living out here in the real world?
come on man I've only been here a few days and it's not hard to tell your a narc (unless you count smoking butts with your perish priest as illicit drug use).
this guy's dealing with a major life decision and is just looking for advice so unless you can help, piss off!

[grinthenbearit]

go ahead and look up psychotic.

[Oneironaut]

A few more things I want to say to this fucker...

1) I really can't get where you get this idea that I'm selfish. I'm a fucking communist. If there's anything I want to get rid of in this world, it's greed.

2) Where do you get off making up shit about my parents? And what do my parents have to do with anything? Even if I had been born to bankrupt, racist, hypocritical alcoholics, would that make me a bad person? Don't judge people by their relatives.

3) You can skip the "bless you" crap. You keep your religion to yourself, and I'll keep my atheism to myself. If you insist, however, I can start ending my posts with "may you take your happiness into your own hands because there's no God to deliver it to you".

[Lizzie Borden]

You remind me a lot of myself when I was in college not long ago. I was an English major and wanted to be a high school English teacher. That plan fell through when I was taking a student teacher practicum and realized that most English teachers began as idealists like me, but soon gave up on a lot of their own principals once the reality of having to teach high schoolers set in. I didn't want to be like that!! Still, I had enough credits under my belt to complete the major, which I did eventually. Soon after, I discovered the theatre program at my school and it was like a light went on...I finally found what truly excited me and that semester studying theatre was the best of my life. I feel like that was when I truly found myself.
So now I'm rambling about my own life, but my point is that your life is what you make it. You know what's best for you. Perhaps taking a year off will do you some good and make you happier. You should expand your realm of experience, travel maybe, take a road trip, and meet new people. Maybe you'll find what you're looking for that isn't in the classroom. And you know what? You can always go back to school and finish up your degree later.
Sometimes I feel like I should have taken a year off myself to reevaluate my life. I would have saved me some money. My student loans have put me $50,000 in debt and now I'm struggling to find a way to pay them off. I'm not bitter or anything because that one semester of theatre was worth it all. But you should do what you like. Good luck! :cool:

[Oneironaut]

go ahead and look up psychotic.
psy•chot•ic adj. of, relating to, marked by, or affected with psychosis

psy•cho•sis n. fundamental mental derangement (as schizophrenia) characterized by defective or lost contact with reality

Please explain to me how you've determined that I have a fundamental mental derangement (as schizophrenia) characterized by defective or lost contact with reality.

And are you going to apologize for making up hateful lies about my parents? Or are you just going to pretend like you never did?

[slipknotpsycho]

So glad you could make it to the forum. Bless you!


Seriously, dude, what the fuck is your problem with me? If you just want to spew negativity and lies about me, you can't expect me to be nice to you in return. Go fuck yourself, asshole.

lmao... i laughed pretty hard when i read this... maybe it's becuase anytime someone says 'god bless you' when i sneeze i angrily tell them never to do it again (which they don't)

[Lizzie Borden]

...and you know what I do for a living now? I'm a prep chemist! I do chemistry all day. Completely not in my field. There is really no way to use an English degree unless you're a teacher or you plan on getting your MBA and going into management for some corporation. It's a real waste. Just fucking drop out!

As for everybody else who was posting all kinds of off-topic bullshit: sit down and smoke a bowl!!!
:smokin: :smokin: :smokin:

[grinthenbearit]

college people are smart dont you think so


go ahead look up nerd

in the navy it was short for something else
N.E.R.D., but I am not tellin what.

[Oneironaut]

college people are smart dont you think so
I am not going to make such a sweeping generalization of such a large group of people which clearly spans a wide spectrum of IQs. But I am pretty intelligent myself; I have a 3.92 GPA, I got a 1390 on my SATs, and I've had well above average grades my whole life.

go ahead look up nerd

in the navy it was short for something else
N.E.R.D., but I am not tellin what
I don't see the shame in being a nerd. People have been calling me a nerd my whole life. What's so bad about that? I'm smart and I know stuff about science and computers! Oh, no! The horror!

...So you aren't going to apologize for insulting my parents?

And you're not going to try to show that I'm psychotic? I see you're whining about it in your signature though. I'll take that as another unsubstantiated insult.

Well, you have fun trying to enact social change by "voting". Yup, all we need to do is elect the right guys in office and everything will be all right. :rolleyes:

Remember, kids, Jimmy Carter wanted to decriminalize marijuana, but voting for him didn't get the job done, now did it? The system has a vested interest in maintaining the War on Drugs. It will have to be ended the same way that segregation was. Take to the streets, not the voting booths!

“If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal.” —Emma Goldman
Choose and Lose! (http://www.infoshop.org/voting.html)

[mike jones]

Anyone else agree that this "member" should bannish the typed thoughts from his diseased mind and just spend his spare time playing nintendo and the hell away from "a respectable forum"?:confused:

no.

Hey O,

Glad to see you made a decision. I considered dropping out of college last year even though I was 3 years into my comp sci degree, but I took some time off and decided to come back to school with a new major instead. If there's one thing that college has taught me, its to take charge of your own life and your own education. In life, you won't be happy unless you do what you think is best for you. And it looks like you are doing that. So good for you. Best of luck in school and in the future. :thumbsup:

PS - lucid dreams are my favorite thing in the entire world

[Oneironaut]

no.

Hey O,

Glad to see you made a decision. I considered dropping out of college last year even though I was 3 years into my comp sci degree, but I took some time off and decided to come back to school with a new major instead. If there's one thing that college has taught me, its to take charge of your own life and your own education. In life, you won't be happy unless you do what you think is best for you. And it looks like you are doing that. So good for you. Best of luck in school and in the future. :thumbsup:
Thanks. :)

PS - lucid dreams are my favorite thing in the entire world
I know. I can't imagine any drug or sexual experience can ever match the feeling you get once you realize that you're dreaming. There's nothing like knowing you can break all the laws of physics and society, and it will feel completely realistic! It kind of makes you want to never wake up.

[da haze meister]

It was illegalized a very time ago, I'm pretty sure not even one member here was born when it was legal, much less, have anything to do with why it was illegalized in the first place.

my father was born right before WWII ended (after V-E day but before V-J Day)(yeh hes old as hell) and that was during the period when it was temporarily legalized.

[slipknotpsycho]

well i know there was bound to be someone that had been alive or someone knew someone that was alive when it was legal, i was just trying to make the point that whatever happened, happened along time ago, and nearly everyone here is innocent of the reasons why it was illegalized in the first place, therefore, no one here, no matter their race, orientation, 'crowd' or anything else, could possibly be responsible...

[da haze meister]

relieve your non-subject frustrations away from decent cannabis community members. It is the narrow percentage of cannabis users who are demonic who ruined cannabis' legality in the first place. The more people like you who cease to associate themselves with marijuana the sooner the public voters will not be able to blame marijuana as the scapegoat for societies problems. You sir, are the disgrace to all who seek to legalize cannabis.

Anyone else agree that this "member" should bannish the typed thoughts from his diseased mind and just spend his spare time playing nintendo and the hell away from "a respectable forum"?:confused:
i was actually about to flame you
but then i realized
that you are actually
severely mentally retarded
and you will end up as a greeter
at wal mart
at age 26
so good luck

[grinthenbearit]

I am a straight A college student. I also worked full time while getting those grades while in the NAVY. I also got to shake hands with the president in 2003.

go play some video games that your brother gayve to you:rasta:

[pabloescobar209]

I am a straight A college student. I also worked full time while getting those grades while in the NAVY. I also got to shake hands with the president in 2003.

go play some video games that your brother gayve to you:rasta:
Did Bush congratulate you on accomplishing that mission that still hasn't been accomplished today?

[slipknotpsycho]

I am a straight A college student. I also worked full time while getting those grades while in the NAVY. I also got to shake hands with the president in 2003.

go play some video games that your brother gayve to you:rasta:
wtf does it matter how much your iq measures, that means exactly dick... it's a combination of street smarts, book smarts, and the ability to cooperate/coexist with other human beings that matters... yea, i'm smarter then most people that are in college, where the fuck am i? sitting at home not in college with no high school diploma.. funny how life can fuck those over that deserve to be able to move ahead (not saying me, really i'm not i've known people that should of gone to college because they have what it takes to make it through college and life, and then i've seen completely ignorant people that couldn't pass the 12th grade again if an A bit them on the ass every day, and yet they're in college) and let those idiots who are hell bent on judging people, and placing blame on others instead of focusing on what they should be focusing on, huh?

[Oneironaut]

I am a straight A college student. I also worked full time while getting those grades while in the NAVY. I also got to shake hands with the president in 2003.
You got to shake hands with a power-hungry fascist terrorist? I'm so jealous.

go play some video games that your brother gayve to you:rasta:
What do you have against video games, anyways? You act like it's some kind of shameful activity. I like to sit back and play one every few weeks or so. Is there something wrong with that?

[xblackdogx]

1. flame wars are gay
2. to brag about shaking hands with G. W. Bush is like saying you shook hands with Usama Bin Laden or any other terrorist guilty of killing thousands of lives, which makes you gay
3. you are a flaming homosexual

[grinthenbearit]

choosing any user name with a in it is dog is queer

nobody in this forum wants to think of a completely naked animal's private parts everytime some crud rolls down from your chimp brain and down to your fat fingers

[BUZz UK]

I'm tired of relegating my happiness to some imaginary future where all my present pain and misery will somehow pay off.
Welcome to life, and why I've failed (and I'm only 17)

[BUZz UK]

and, OMG I JUST READ THE REST OF THIS THREAD! WHAT A BUNCH OF FUCK UPS SOME OF YOU ARE, CAUSING SO MUCH STATIC FOR NO REASON, GROW THE FUCK UP AND LETS DISCUSS THINGS!

[xblackdogx]

choosing any user name with a in it is dog is queer

nobody in this forum wants to think of a completely naked animal's private parts everytime some crud rolls down from your chimp brain and down to your fat fingers
if i chose the name for a dog your comments would be relevant ;)
but, led zepellin IV is a good album :thumbsup:

[grinthenbearit]

stop tellin people what they can or cant do on the forum.....if the majority of PEOPLE wanted a a sickening sex offrender to tell them what to do any Pee wee herman or lard dog types would be elected president

[xblackdogx]

stop tellin people what they can or cant do on the forum.....if the majority of PEOPLE wanted a a sickening sex offrender to tell them what to do any Pee wee herman or lard dog types would be elected president
did i ever state that he couldn't say it, i said simply it doesn't apply to me. When he is directing his comments at me, i believe i can reply directly to him.
grin- you are a homosexual for flaming constantly, grow up

[chisme]

also grinthenbearit ive seen u ask numerouse time for other members to be banned...or bannish in your words......

why are your trying to get members booted?

maybbe we should all stand up and say we want you booted eh?
concentrate on your own shit if they do anythign wrong the mods WILL let them know about it.

wasnt it you in this or anothe rthread whos says "dotn tell other poeple what and what not to say?? so why are you now saying he cant say fuck?

get a life

[chisme]

oh wait here it is
stop tellin people what they can or cant do on the forum.....


follow your own advice.