mexicans on the march

[friendowl]

what do you think about making it a felony to be in the usa illegally.
think about all the reprecussions of what will happen if they make it a crime.

here in LA all the kids are walkiking out of school and on sat.there were over 500,000 people in downtown.

i guess will see what happens.

[higher4hockey]

If i was in charge, it would be death on the spot! that kind of thing really infuriates me.

^ what do you think ?

[da haze meister]

what do you think about making it a felony to be in the usa illegally.
think about all the reprecussions of what will happen if they make it a crime.

here in LA all the kids are walkiking out of school and on sat.there were over 500,000 people in downtown.

i guess will see what happens.
i think that if it really is the place where you can bring your huddled masses and shit that a green card shouldnt be needed for that. the only problems is that americans wont always be able to tell the difference between Jose and Achmed so we could have some major problems. george bush is a retarded imperialistic fascist.

[friendowl]

so all the men who cut grass, pick fruits, work the tore up jobs
who want nothing more than to have a goog life raise their kids
you would kill these people on the spot.

[friendowl]

it's gonna be crazy if they make illegals illegal.
trust me

[3rdEyeVision]

I think anybody(without serious crime charges and whatnot)should be able to move fucken country to country,I think they're will always be rasicm and shit like that until we break down ALL the barriers.I am just a teenager though and very uneducated on this topic.

[higher4hockey]

well i don't live in LA , so i really don't understand the problem. but there is a proper way to go about coming here. my step dad went through the process, granted its a pain-in-the-ass and takes awhile. but just because this guy wants to work a shit job to support his kids, doesn't give him the right to come into this country illegally, and raise my taxes by having his kids hold up the 7/11 and end up in the clink.

[da haze meister]

well i don't live in LA , so i really don't understand the problem. but there is a proper way to go about coming here. my step dad went through the process, granted its a pain-in-the-ass and takes awhile. but just because this guy wants to work a shit job to support his kids, doesn't give him the right to come into this country illegally, and raise my taxes by having his kids hold up the 7/11 and end up in the clink.
lol @ racial stereotype
illegal immigrants are one of the smallest fractions in the crime statistics... as most of them are scared as fuck to get caught by the police for something. most of them are good, hard workers, just looking for a better life.

[3rdEyeVision]

well i don't live in LA , so i really don't understand the problem. but there is a proper way to go about coming here. my step dad went through the process, granted its a pain-in-the-ass and takes awhile. but just because this guy wants to work a shit job to support his kids, doesn't give him the right to come into this country illegally, and raise my taxes by having his kids hold up the 7/11 and end up in the clink.


aliens can be good people to man not just robber, most big time criminals ive seen were white.....woops didnt see the post above me

[friendowl]

thats not how life really is.

first of all you proboly were born with a silver spoon in your mouth.
try living like they do in mexico and see if your views are the same.
no toilet paper.no heat no ac
no money no food no nothing but what you got attached to your body.
and to think that a few miles north there are double cheese burgers for a dollar more jobs than people want pretty much a new fantasy life wher the
toilet shoots water to clean your ass no wiping.we are very very very spolied here in usa.we shouldnt be quick to judge another till we walk in their shoes.

[xblackdogx]

it's gonna be crazy if they make illegals illegal.
trust me
i think there is a possibility of things getting crazy...
is it really unprovoked though? i am all for change, but Rep nd Dem alike are acting like this is going to help the situation. I am very glad that hispanics have stepped up to this unfair Bill. Not enough demonstrations are being held, allowing one sided bills to go under the table. To think 12 million ppl that you practically interact with everyday (every1's local pizza, cutting your lawn, the new apt complex that you live it), FELONS! Ridiculous. I am for change, but make it the right type of change.

[higher4hockey]

^ good point.

but answer me this, what good comes from illegal immigrants?

[3rdEyeVision]

It is kinda proven though that hispanics or waaay more likely to drop out of school

[da haze meister]

^ good point.

but answer me this, what good comes from illegal immigrants?
higher stock values
they clean your house
mow your lawn
make your food
clean up after your food
fix your car
clean up after fixing your car
12-15 million undocumented immigrants are currently in america

[da haze meister]

It is kinda proven though that hispanics or waaay more likely to drop out of school
so are blacks... but do we kick them out? nooo. and most of the hispanics IN school are regular old american - folk. the undocumented immigrant wave has happened in the past 10 years... way too early for the offspring to drop out.

[higher4hockey]

friendowl ~ I don't live in mexico, so my views are what they are. I'm sure that if I lived in mexico I would sing a different tune. I don't. All I'm saying is there is a right way, and a wrong way to do things. I think illegal immigration is wrong. I think that if they're caught, get rid of them!

I'm not going to fight about this, I've said how I feel.

[da haze meister]

friendowl ~ I don't live in mexico, so my views are what they are. I'm sure that if I lived in mexico I would sing a different tune. I don't. All I'm saying is there is a right way, and a wrong way to do things. I think illegal immigration is wrong. I think that if they're caught, get rid of them!

I'm not going to fight about this, I've said how I feel.
none of us were fighting. we, stoners, were holding an organized, respectful, thoughtful, and overall smart debate.
btw do you live in philly?

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friendowl ~ I don't live in mexico, so my views are what they are. I'm sure that if I lived in mexico I would sing a different tune. I don't. All I'm saying is there is a right way, and a wrong way to do things. I think illegal immigration is wrong. I think that if they're caught, get rid of them!

I'm not going to fight about this, I've said how I feel.

It's not that easy.

It's not just "I want a green card, let me fill out a form, wait a few months and get one" They only let through a very small amount of legal immigrants every year. And however horrible this sounds, I don't think the illegal act will be passed, or for that matter enforced, since it really is a cheap source of labor. here in LA.

They're just a group of people who want to make a better life for themselves. The American government supplies the powerful criminals in Mexico that keep the people so oppressed. I think where we need to start is helping the Mexicans in Mexico, by creating better school systems and such, or even imporving the school systems in America (millions of dollars every year get stolen from the school systems). The problem can't just be addressed by setting up a fence. We need to attack the problem at its source.

[higher4hockey]

^ that i can agree with.


smart debate.... i don't know much about it...so im not gonna debate/fight without knowing my say. (maybe i should quit watchin american history x so much eh? )


no i do not, but i do live in PA

[xblackdogx]

^ good point.

but answer me this, what good comes from illegal immigrants?
what good comes from half of the motherfucker in america? given, those rich corporate bosses do provide us with money, but the decisions they make are based on what they need. Not all illegal immigrants are good, but they are people along with every other America and to classify them as criminals all of a sudden is absurd, especially since i've seen alot of immigrants work there ass off while getting f'n bullied by ppl like you

[eg420ne]

I wonder who organize this protest(because i know mexicans just dont get up one day and say lets have a protest) as with all protest theres a mad man at the helm and its usually a white man..Is Someone trying to provoke a race war and i wonder who benefits from these protest.....

The protest we do need is a protest to get these neo-cons out of the whitehouse and take back congress from the demopublicans. Then we can work out everyone elses problems...

[eg420ne]

Awwww man i forgot to post the pic that says it all

[xblackdogx]

The protest we do need is a protest to get these neo-cons out of the whitehouse and take back congress from the demopublicans. Then we can work out everyone elses problems...

We can only hope it will happen sooner, rather than later. I always think how there aren't large protests against people in power right now.

[Fabolous]

you know i can see both sides of point of people for and agiest this bill.

as you know the economy is in the shit hole as it is, and most companys are movin outta the country, so they can make more money (like they need anymore money as it is)
and the immigrants arent really helping by coming to this country as it is.

but on the otherside it is wrong to kick people out that have lived here for a long time (Longer then i have been alive), that can make some serious Family issues, and shit's gonna fly if it's passed (I fell a civil war coming on in the futrue if things like this keeps happening).

[yoda]

i think it would be a shame to make immigrants felons. thats only gonna flood the prison systems more, or waste more tax dollars to send them out. as someone who has worked with illegal immigrants, i respect their desire to work a shitfuck job to support their family back home in mexico. alot of them work here to provide for them, and then go back in their time off. i have no problem with that. and i would ask them if they wanted to smoke, and they wouldnt in fear of getting in trouble and being deported. so yes, there is the fear of consequence with them.

[Awill3449]

I deffinetly see both sides to the debate. Alot of countries in the EU are having the same issues, except being more liberal about it any letting anyone in the name of humanity or whatnot. I tend to agree with the EU liberals on this issue, but when it comes down to it, all sides just want what is best for the country. Except the people that say we should shoot immigrants. That is rediculous, and I'm not even going to try to explain how contrary to the foundations of our system that is.

The fact is, when tons of immigrants pour into a country -- take italy for example -- there aren't enough jobs available and you end up with more people working the black market. But, who else is going to mow your lawn, pick your strawberries, and deliver your pizza? Seriously, the jobs that illegals take are not jobs that the average america is going to want.

Thats my two cents
-awill

[BlazedMonk3y]

well im my opinion as a Mexican brought up here all my life all i got to say is that this country is some fucked up ungratefull sons of bitches, we get our lands taken away in the first place and now this bullshit fck you lazy azz people go work in the fields and tell me you want me out, but yea you love how the lettuce and tomatoes taste in you fat burgers with my people sweat on it eat up racist fuckers

[yoda]

and does the statue of liberty not say "give me your poor, your tired, your huddled masses"?

[BlazedMonk3y]

and my respect to all yous that support us were here to just live

[BlazedMonk3y]

and if they fuck up with us i know were gonna riot and it will we war i think you silver spoon fucks are going overboard with your "american dream" that dream is fucking up the whole world

[Jeff Spicoli]

What's going on, a bunch of illegal aliens marching in L.A.?
Where's the mother fucking l.a.p.d, need to hog tie all of them sons of bitches and throw them over the boarder.
LOL @ blazed
and a LOL to everyone else who is on the illegal aliens side.

[BlazedMonk3y]

What's going on, a bunch of illegal aliens marching in L.A.?
Where's the mother fucking l.a.p.d, need to hog tie all of them sons of bitches and throw them over the boarder.
LOL @ blazed
and a LOL to everyone else who is on the illegal aliens side.


lmao you want another Pancho Villa After your asses?

[BlazedMonk3y]

lmao at all them bums out in the street usually white....here in denver

[BlazedMonk3y]

white people treat us like criminals when your fucking up the whole world? please wake up retarded ignorant peeps

[yoda]

white people treat us like criminals when your fucking up the whole world? please wake up retarded ignorant peeps

hey look i'll agree with your views on this issue, but you dont have to be a dick about everything.

[BlazedMonk3y]

i wish america would forget about money and just live life for its self, ohter countries would follow

[yoda]

i wish america would forget about money and just live life for its self, ohter countries would follow

responsibility comes with power. we are kinda obligated to aid countries in need rather than to just sit back and enjoy what we have.

[BlazedMonk3y]

hey look i'll agree with your views on this issue, but you dont have to be a dick about everything.


sorry but this is from a Mexican, your gov has been a dick to my people all our fucken life and the way i feel hurts? well then too bad bro sorry hear me point of view of the hurted ones

[Jeff Spicoli]

you are missing one small thing, they are ILLEGAL ALIENS. if they want to be treated fairly, let them get citizenship, fucking good for them. why don't they? because they are stupid.

[Fabolous]

Frist off, i wanna point out BlazedMonk3y, you need to fucking stop your damn spaming triple posting you got there, theres a edit button there for a reson!

Second, ill have to agree with jeff up there, they had the chance to get Citizienship over the time of years, hell some have been here 20+ years and still haven't got there ass up and tryed at least to get leagalised.

[BlazedMonk3y]

foo ur stupid like we really can...isnt thats wat were asking for?....dumbass

[BlazedMonk3y]

and thats to jeff

[Jeff Spicoli]

shock and awe

[del...]

sorry but this is from a Mexican, your gov has been a dick to my people all our fucken life and the way i feel hurts? well then too bad bro sorry hear me point of view of the hurted ones


yeah, such a dick that california taxpayers alone had to foot the bill for a 500 million dollar loss from illegals skipping out on their medical bills and another 300 million in arizona...all in 2004...one year! now multiply that by all the other years not included along with all the other things government provides illegals that taxpayers pay for and maybe you'll see what all the fuss is about...then there's the open border-terrorism issue along with all the smuggling and throughout the southwest there's a problem with illegals not having vehicle insurance and skipping out when they damage property, or worse!. what is there to argue about here?

[xblackdogx]

foo ur stupid like we really can...isnt thats wat were asking for?....dumbass
With your last like 6 post, it is hurting the cause. Debate on issues that are fair issues, not some extremist anti-gov't hate posts.

[graph]

Frist off, i wanna point out BlazedMonk3y, you need to fucking stop your damn spaming triple posting you got there, theres a edit button there for a reson!

Second, ill have to agree with jeff up there, they had the chance to get Citizienship over the time of years, hell some have been here 20+ years and still haven't got there ass up and tryed at least to get leagalised.
If they were to ever announce that they are currently living in the US if and when they attempt to get their citizenship they will be deported immediately unless they have amnesty. It's not easy to get citizenship, and if they did many places wouldn't hire them because they would have to pay them above minimum wage.

I agree would the triple posting though. That's not cool, and kinda makes you look like a douchebag.

[eg420ne]

Im Hispanic and thought this protest was shit, they didnt even protest the war

Also Mexicans should be pissed at there own government, not just U.S.

[Fabolous]

Man don't be caling me a dumb, ass i didn't fucking tell any of you to hope the boarder, that was your peoples choice not mine and they May or may not pay for what they have done,

you'll just have to wait and see what they say

edited, sorry befor i posted i say your last Duble post :upsidedow but my point still stands for the rest of what i said!

[xblackdogx]

yeah, such a dick that california taxpayers alone had to foot the bill for a 500 million dollar loss from illegals skipping out on their medical bills and another 300 million in arizona...all in 2004...one year! now multiply that by all the other years not included along with all the other things government provides illegals that taxpayers pay for and maybe you'll see what all the fuss is about...then there's the open border-terrorism issue along with all the smuggling and throughout the southwest there's a problem with illegals not having vehicle insurance and skipping out when they damage property, or worse!. what is there to argue about here?
and we're also paying for things that happened because of Katrina. Whose fault was that, the government's. If the government revised the healthcare program, including healthcare for illegal immigrants in emergency situations, along with homeless, and the poor. EVERYONE should have healthcare: CANADA!.... so close but so far for human rights... so basically if the US changed their healthcare programs you wouldnt foot the bill for 800 million.

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yeah, such a dick that california taxpayers alone had to foot the bill for a 500 million dollar loss from illegals skipping out on their medical bills and another 300 million in arizona...all in 2004...one year! now multiply that by all the other years not included along with all the other things government provides illegals that taxpayers pay for and maybe you'll see what all the fuss is about...then there's the open border-terrorism issue along with all the smuggling and throughout the southwest there's a problem with illegals not having vehicle insurance and skipping out when they damage property, or worse!. what is there to argue about here?
As for the open-border terrorism issue, then wouldn't we have to close the canadian border as well? A while back a terrorist who was planning a bombing in LA was stopped at the canadian border. Besides, are there not illegal aliens of different backgrounds other than hispanic living in LA? I've noticed a lot of people from the Middle East around here, del. You know you have, too. Surely not everyone working at the 711's are legal citizens. Both sides of the spectrum.

[BlazedMonk3y]

yeah, such a dick that california taxpayers alone had to foot the bill for a 500 million dollar loss from illegals skipping out on their medical bills and another 300 million in arizona...all in 2004...one year! now multiply that by all the other years not included along with all the other things government provides illegals that taxpayers pay for and maybe you'll see what all the fuss is about...then there's the open border-terrorism issue along with all the smuggling and throughout the southwest there's a problem with illegals not having vehicle insurance and skipping out when they damage property, or worse!. what is there to argue about here?


lol i guess it would be better to be legal huh? lmao

[smokefiend]

If the Mexicans got bud legal across the board I would support them :P. As of now I only support them if they come in USA legally and LEARN our Language PLEASE! My ancestors came here legally and learned English you Mexicans should have to also :|

[Fabolous]

If the Mexicans got bud legal across the board I would support them :P. As of now I only support them if they come in USA legally and LEARN our Language PLEASE! My ancestors came here legally and learned English you Mexicans should have to also :|
LoL your only consurn is the language? theres alot bigger issues then just that. ;)

[del...]

As for the open-border terrorism issue, then wouldn't we have to close the canadian border as well? A while back a terrorist who was planning a bombing in LA was stopped at the canadian border. Besides, are there not illegal aliens of different backgrounds other than hispanic living in LA? I've noticed a lot of people from the Middle East around here, del. You know you have, too. Surely not everyone working at the 711's are legal citizens. Both sides of the spectrum.

canada's self-defense system is far more current than mexico's because they work with us on the border, unlike mexico. it's silly to compare the two...same for your l.a. argument. latino's far outnumber all other minorities there (are they even a minority there any more?) and their border is a short drive away...so let's keep it real here, ok?

[smokefiend]

If they come here legally I dont have a problem with any one. once you come here ILLEGALLY FUCK you

[BlazedMonk3y]

With your last like 6 post, it is hurting the cause. Debate on issues that are fair issues, not some extremist anti-gov't hate posts.


i just hate this gov cause all it does is try to take money from any and everything and for what wars? come one can we all just live in peace?
whats FEMA trying to do? take all that money they gave to katrinas victims...i know we all heard LIFE IS WORTH MORE THAN GOLD

[Jeff Spicoli]

Monkey, please shut up already, you have no idea what you are talking about

[rhino44]

put up a big ass fence and shoot anybody that comes over. the only way they will stop is with a show of force. dont give them water and medical treatment. shoot them and see how eager the rest are to come over.

thats the only way they will learn. deport all the illegals that dont have a job. so we can keep the ones working already.

why should we have to pay for your schooling, medical bills, and all types of other shit. they claim they have this right and that right. you dont you are here illegally. you dont have the same rights as a U.S. citizen.

[Fabolous]

put up a big ass fence and shoot anybody that comes over. the only way they will stop is with a show of force. dont give them water and medical treatment. shoot them and see how eager the rest are to come over.

thats the only way they will learn. deport all the illegals that dont have a job. so we can keep the ones working already.

why should we have to pay for your schooling, medical bills, and all types of other shit. they claim they have this right and that right. you dont you are here illegally. you dont have the same rights as a U.S. citizen.
you do that where the fuck is that good weed gonna come from!

[BlazedMonk3y]

put up a big ass fence and shoot anybody that comes over. the only way they will stop is with a show of force. dont give them water and medical treatment. shoot them and see how eager the rest are to come over.

thats the only way they will learn. deport all the illegals that dont have a job. so we can keep the ones working already.

why should we have to pay for your schooling, medical bills, and all types of other shit. they claim they have this right and that right. you dont you are here illegally. you dont have the same rights as a U.S. citizen.


damn foo your even more crazy, think with ur head not ur ass

EDIT.... and you wouldnt be supporting us thats why we want equal rights, after being your slaves all our life wat u expect foo were not gonna we quiet anymore...and thats a proven fact

[Jeff Spicoli]

you do that where the fuck is that good weed gonna come from!
mexican weed joke, lol thanks

[sbskico1]

FYI= there has been two mass deportation in the last 100 years

[tootsie roll]

yeah, such a dick that california taxpayers alone had to foot the bill for a 500 million dollar loss from illegals skipping out on their medical bills and another 300 million in arizona...all in 2004...one year! now multiply that by all the other years not included along with all the other things government provides illegals that taxpayers pay for and maybe you'll see what all the fuss is about...then there's the open border-terrorism issue along with all the smuggling and throughout the southwest there's a problem with illegals not having vehicle insurance and skipping out when they damage property, or worse!. what is there to argue about here?

Don't forget about the billions owed to ComEd. I personally wouldn't care who comes here as long as they pay their share of the bills and learn the English language and live normally, not having 30 people in a single family home; that's just gross.
And since that isn't gonna happen........

[BlazedMonk3y]

EDIT

I mean, come on, we're just under 300 years old.....and look what we have accomplished....give us another hundred years and the American flag will be on Mars......it makes my smile to think the U.S. will have its own planet someday!!!!:dance:



What would Martian weed be like?

Have a nice weekend.......:rasta:
http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=57869



this way of thinking is what i hate, your "dream" your ambition to have it all which brings me back to an old post i posted a lil while back
http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=54892
that's what this dream is

[BlazedMonk3y]

cancerous life style

[likemclever]

Why arenâ??t all those Mexicans who are protesting kicking Vicente Foxâ??s ass right now. Why doesnâ??t Mexico take a little responsibility for being the fucking cesspool that it is.

Every Illegal immigrant who crosses our bordersâ?¦spits in the face of every other immigrant who came to this country legally.

Fuckemâ?¦.we have hospitals being literally shut down by this shit. Do they fucking care?

Send them back and for every illegal sent back than let in another immigrant (not just Mexican) who is interested in doing things right.

I say dump them all in Mexico City and let Mr. Fox worry about how HE is going to care for them.

Itâ??s not our fault they have a fucked up corrupt governmentâ?¦yet all you hear about is how cold hearted America is.

Mexico needs to straighten their shit out and they wouldnâ??t â??needâ?� to come here.

[tootsie roll]

Why arenâ??t all those Mexicans who are protesting kicking Vicente Foxâ??s ass right now. Why doesnâ??t Mexico take a little responsibility for being the fucking cesspool that it is.

Every Illegal immigrant who crosses our bordersâ?¦spits in the face of every other immigrant who came to this country legally.

Fuckemâ?¦.we have hospitals being literally shut down by this shit. Do they fucking care?

Send them back and for every illegal sent back than let in another immigrant (not just Mexican) who is interested in doing things right.

I say dump them all in Mexico City and let Mr. Fox worry about how HE is going to care for them.

Itâ??s not our fault they have a fucked up corrupt governmentâ?¦yet all you hear about is how cold hearted America is.

Mexico needs to straighten their shit out and they wouldnâ??t â??needâ?� to come here.

You make several points but the most brilliant one is why isn't the leader of Mexico doing his job? Why isn't there a revolt against the Mexican government? Such beautiful land and they could accomplish so much.

[xblackdogx]

Why arenâ??t all those Mexicans who are protesting kicking Vicente Foxâ??s ass right now. Why doesnâ??t Mexico take a little responsibility for being the fucking cesspool that it is.

Every Illegal immigrant who crosses our bordersâ?¦spits in the face of every other immigrant who came to this country legally.

Fuckemâ?¦.we have hospitals being literally shut down by this shit. Do they fucking care?

Send them back and for every illegal sent back than let in another immigrant (not just Mexican) who is interested in doing things right.

I say dump them all in Mexico City and let Mr. Fox worry about how HE is going to care for them.

Itâ??s not our fault they have a fucked up corrupt governmentâ?¦yet all you hear about is how cold hearted America is.

Mexico needs to straighten their shit out and they wouldnâ??t â??needâ?� to come here.
And what would the world be like if people couldn't flee their homeland b/c of unfair conditions. Thousands more Jews would have been killed by the Nazis, 2.5 million currently displaced in countries surrounding Darfur (Chad) would have been just other victims to the bullet along with the 300,000 that have already gone down in the past 3 years. And with America's founding thoughts to base the nation on, I think we can occupy hard working Mexicans that are currently vital to our society's economy.

[BlazedMonk3y]

Why arenâ??t all those Mexicans who are protesting kicking Vicente Foxâ??s ass right now. Why doesnâ??t Mexico take a little responsibility for being the fucking cesspool that it is.

cause most of us have been here living all our life

Every Illegal immigrant who crosses our bordersâ?¦spits in the face of every other immigrant who came to this country legally.

not many come legally

Fuckemâ?¦.we have hospitals being literally shut down by this shit. Do they fucking care?

well then be legal so you have records of everyone

Send them back and for every illegal sent back than let in another immigrant (not just Mexican) who is interested in doing things right.

thats what we want do things right...work and STUDY

I say dump them all in Mexico City and let Mr. Fox worry about how HE is going to care for them.

no let america handle us we been slaving here for a long long time

Itâ??s not our fault they have a fucked up corrupt governmentâ?¦yet all you hear about is how cold hearted America is.

mexico is out of this, america is our home not mexico

Mexico needs to straighten their shit out and they wouldnâ??t â??needâ?� to come here.

true but were already here and been here for a long time


we all just need to fucken deal with eachother were hear so wtf...deal with it and it has to be for the good cause were not gonna stayin quiet anymore

[BlazedMonk3y]

And what would the world be like if people couldn't flee their homeland b/c of unfair conditions. Thousands more Jews would have been killed by the Nazis, 2.5 million currently displaced in countries surrounding Darfur (Chad) would have been just other victims to the bullet along with the 300,000 that have already gone down in the past 3 years. And with America's founding thoughts to base the nation on, I think we can occupy hard working Mexicans that are currently vital to our society's economy.


well then just kill us like nazis...
we're all hard working Mexicans and we all know that

[xblackdogx]

well then just kill us like nazis...
we're all hard working Mexicans and we all know that
i don't think you bring any positive effort to try to change minds about how bent these laws are; if you truly care for the cause: don't post as you have been. you are just reassuring the thoughts of people that aren't thinking likewise.

[geonagual]

All I can say is...

another straight case of racism
how can anyone fault someone for wanting to make a better life for themselves and their family.
It is survival
Whatever happened to America the melting pot?

[likemclever]

And what would the world be like if people couldn't flee their homeland b/c of unfair conditions. Thousands more Jews would have been killed by the Nazis, 2.5 million currently displaced in countries surrounding Darfur (Chad) would have been just other victims to the bullet along with the 300,000 that have already gone down in the past 3 years. And with America's founding thoughts to base the nation on, I think we can occupy hard working Mexicans that are currently vital to our society's economy.

Mexican are not leaving Mexico to escape religious or ethnic persecution. They are leaving for economic reasons. I would say that if they believe that their conditions are so â??unfairâ?� than perhaps THEY should change that factâ?¦through revolution if necessary. If every illegal immigrant in the US decided to stay in their homeland and fight for change than change would happen.

They reason why Americanâ??s wonâ??t work in those jobs is because the wages are unfair not because we think were to good for it. The wages are unfair because the workforce is illegal and bosses can pay whatever they like.

Hard working AMERICAN business owners who choose to obey the law and hire legal labor canâ??t compete because their competitors can under bid them because they use illegal labor.

Yeah you might have to pay an extra dollar for your lettuce but how much would you save on medical, school, uninsured motorist, and jail/prison expenses.

Mexico needs to get their own shit straight.

[BlazedMonk3y]

All I can say is...

another straight case of racism
how can anyone fault someone for wanting to make a better life for themselves and their family.
It is survival
Whatever happened to America the melting pot?

exacly

and i post what i feel

[xblackdogx]

Mexican are not leaving Mexico to escape religious or ethnic persecution. They are leaving for economic reasons. I would say that if they believe that their conditions are so â??unfairâ?� than perhaps THEY should change that factâ?¦through revolution if necessary. If every illegal immigrant in the US decided to stay in their homeland and fight for change than change would happen.

They reason why Americanâ??s wonâ??t work in those jobs is because the wages are unfair not because we think were to good for it. The wages are unfair because the workforce is illegal and bosses can pay whatever they like.

Hard working AMERICAN business owners who choose to obey the law and hire legal labor canâ??t compete because their competitors can under bid them because they use illegal labor.

Yeah you might have to pay an extra dollar for your lettuce but how much would you save on medical, school, uninsured motorist, and jail/prison expenses.

Mexico needs to get their own shit straight.
IMO the reasons you can flee from your homeland transcend beyond just religous reasons: communist gov't (are fleeing N. Koreans stopped by the country of destination), poor economic conditions, etc. And there would be no America if you say people should fight for change in their homeland. And yes, companies are exploiting the illegal immigrants, shouldn't they be held responsible? you still give money to the people that employ them (pizza, landscape); you shouldn't be supporting them (this is all hypothetical; given you eat pizza and your grass grows).

[Breukelen advocaat]

All I can say is....
another straight case of racism
how can anyone fault someone for wanting to make a better life for themselves and their family.
It is survival
Whatever happened to America the melting pot?

It's not just Mexicans. Many of the new immigrants do not want to learn the language, expect everything to be handed to them on a platter, want dual citizenship, new laws that infringe upon others, everything for free, and more.

I live in a city with over 120 ethnic groups, and if I were "racist", or did not like diversity, I would move. It gets annoying, though, when you cannot even communicate with half the people you work with (and sometimes for!). I enjoy spending a little time on my lunch hour, in NYC, helping tourists with limited language skills find their way around. But, come on, we've got people that have been here for 20 or more years that can't speak English, much less read or write it, at all - and then there are the people that were BORN here that are just as bad, or worse.

This has been going on for some time - and itâ??s only getting worse. I don't mean to make scapegoats out of any one group - there are many that are not "melting" very well, if at all.

[sbskico1]

robbing banks is against the law---crossing the border in against the law....
I want to support my family...so I guess I can rob banks.....I mean come on....I am just trying to raise my family

[likemclever]

IMO the reasons you can flee from your homeland transcend beyond just religous reasons: communist gov't (are fleeing N. Koreans stopped by the country of destination), poor economic conditions, etc. And there would be no America if you say people should fight for change in their homeland. And yes, companies are exploiting the illegal immigrants, shouldn't they be held responsible? you still give money to the people that employ them (pizza, landscape); you shouldn't be supporting them (this is all hypothetical; given you eat pizza and your grass grows).

Yes I understand that there are many reasons why someone may want to flee their homeland. But I equate illegal immigration with cutting in line and not just in front of other Mexicans but butting in front of the whole world. Why should a Mexican have a greater right to be an American than some other deserving soul from say Chad. So the way I see it is ....if someone is not chasing you with a butcher knife than wait in line just like everyone else.

Iâ??ve been to Panmunjeom and the JSA/DMZ and South Koreanâ??s donâ??t have to worry about fleeing millions of North Koreans because North Korean soldiers would shoot them in the back if they tried. Thatâ??s not exactly Mr. Foxâ??s solution he gives them maps and tips on how to violate our sovereignty.

I think employers who knowingly hire illegal immigrants should be severally punished. If you stop making it beneficial to them they will stop doing it.

I have no way of knowing if the fine Mexican at the pizza joint is illegal or not. It is left up to the employer to check his documentation.

I would like very much to be able to grow my own grass : )

[sbskico1]

EDIT

http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=57869



this way of thinking is what i hate, your "dream" your ambition to have it all which brings me back to an old post i posted a lil while back
http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=54892
that's what this dream is


It's just one planet(Mars). Nobody is stopping the Mexican't gov. from having its own space program(illegals in space!?). Is not Mexico older than the U.S? Don't blame us for your problems. So much for "Mexican pride".

What I am concerned about with all the illegal Mexican't are people will look at Mexicans and connect it with criminal behavior. I lived in Denver for ten years and I knew people who would not drive behind, in front of, or next to, because there was a good chance that they were illegals and had no driver's lic. OR insurance so if there's an crash GUESS who pays??????

[sbskico1]

Call your Congressman today and tell him/her to deport all illegals etc.

[likemclever]

I think I would be most pissed off if I were a Mexican American. Think about it when people look at you they secretly wonder if youâ??re an illegal immigrant or not, they think you donâ??t have medical or car insurance. If I were a Mexican American I would be pissed off indeed.

[graph]

Mexican are not leaving Mexico to escape religious or ethnic persecution. They are leaving for economic reasons. I would say that if they believe that their conditions are so â??unfairâ?� than perhaps THEY should change that factâ?¦through revolution if necessary. If every illegal immigrant in the US decided to stay in their homeland and fight for change than change would happen.

They reason why Americanâ??s wonâ??t work in those jobs is because the wages are unfair not because we think were to good for it. The wages are unfair because the workforce is illegal and bosses can pay whatever they like.

Hard working AMERICAN business owners who choose to obey the law and hire legal labor canâ??t compete because their competitors can under bid them because they use illegal labor.

Yeah you might have to pay an extra dollar for your lettuce but how much would you save on medical, school, uninsured motorist, and jail/prison expenses.

Mexico needs to get their own shit straight.
First of all, it's obvious you've never been to Mexico. Guards ride around on the back of humvees with fingers ON the tigger. At the very first sign of revolution, they'll get shot. People who think America is fascist should at least visit Mexico. If you even so much as say "down with vincente fox!" you'd be very dead. Very quickly.

Most big companies with low prices either set up shop somewhere in China where there is no minimum wage or hire illegal aliens to work, since they don't have to pay minimum wage. Examples would be Wal-Mart, Dickies, many shopping outlets, etc.

Jail/prison expenses? Of course, the legal course of action is to deport illegal aliens where they stand trial in their country of origin, yet one out of every five inmate is an illegal alien, according to the 2004 report. Americans are keeping these people in America.

[xblackdogx]

Yes I understand that there are many reasons why someone may want to flee their homeland. But I equate illegal immigration with cutting in line and not just in front of other Mexicans but butting in front of the whole world. Why should a Mexican have a greater right to be an American than some other deserving soul from say Chad. So the way I see it is ....if someone is not chasing you with a butcher knife than wait in line just like everyone else.

Iâ??ve been to Panmunjeom and the JSA/DMZ and South Koreanâ??s donâ??t have to worry about fleeing millions of North Koreans because North Korean soldiers would shoot them in the back if they tried. Thatâ??s not exactly Mr. Foxâ??s solution he gives them maps and tips on how to violate our sovereignty.

I think employers who knowingly hire illegal immigrants should be severally punished. If you stop making it beneficial to them they will stop doing it.

I have no way of knowing if the fine Mexican at the pizza joint is illegal or not. It is left up to the employer to check his documentation.

I would like very much to be able to grow my own grass : )
seems like you've got a fine dose of the O'Reily Factor in you :upsidedow
-no offense

[likemclever]

First of all, it's obvious you've never been to Mexico. Guards ride around on the back of humvees with fingers ON the tigger. At the very first sign of revolution, they'll get shot. People who think America is fascist should at least visit Mexico. If you even so much as say "down with vincente fox!" you'd be very dead. Very quickly.

Most big companies with low prices either set up shop somewhere in China where there is no minimum wage or hire illegal aliens to work, since they don't have to pay minimum wage. Examples would be Wal-Mart, Dickies, many shopping outlets, etc.

Jail/prison expenses? Of course, the legal course of action is to deport illegal aliens where they stand trial in their country of origin, yet one out of every five inmate is an illegal alien, according to the 2004 report. Americans are keeping these people in America.

I have been to Mexico and I also know that you can buy a Mexican official with a ham sandwich if he's hungry enough.

Yep like I said stiff penalties for those who use illegal labor.

I also don't think we should warehouse illegal immigrants in jail. The fact that they are in jail tells me that illegally crossing the border was not their one any only time they committed a crime in this country.

Our independence and civil war came at a steep price for us as well but we still did it.

[likemclever]

seems like you've got a fine dose of the O'Reily Factor in you :upsidedow
-no offense

actually I'm not a big fan. So your response to me is an attack on Bill O'Reily instead of my reasoning :confused:

not offended

[graph]

Alright, I see your point, but you also have to understand that I'm somewhat for sending illegal immigrants back to their country. I think, first of all, we should widen the amount of illegal immigrants that are allowed in this country every year. Plus, I think instead of giving money to support Vincente Fox's regime, it should be used to help the Mexican people, whether it be through the school systems, etc. Or even using the money we anually give to Vincente Fox to clean up the LA school system. You have to admit, right now there are just too many problems with the American and Mexican systems, and to me, it seems just sending these people back to their country will do more harm than good.

I do agree about stiffer penalties, though, but I believe that the people who run this country (not the president, the REAL people who run the country, big business) see it to be more profitable to keep illegal aliens illegal and uneducated. Seriously, in America we have a school system that caters to the well-to-do, and a culture based around keeping youths stupid (for reference see: Lil' Jon) and to me, that's the worst part about this fiasco.

[sbskico1]

[QUOTE=likemclever]I think I would be most pissed off if I were a Mexican American. Think about it when people look at you they secretly wonder if youâ??re an illegal immigrant or not, they think you donâ??t have medical or car insurance. If I were a Mexican American I would be pissed off indeed.[/QUOTE

Couldn't have said it better.

In otherwords, wanting to deport illegals you're actually trying to help Americans of Mexican desent.

[rhino44]

here is a story that sums up my feelings towards our governments ability or lack there of to enforce our immigration/deportation laws.

an illegal mexican in my city was charged with 4 DUI's. released everytime. never had a license or registration or anything. they just let him go. one day he does it again and drives over the dividing line hitting a minivan with a mom/dad and 4 kids. only the youngest girl survived. why was this piece of shit not deported.

i just dont think illegals should get all comfortable and start screaming about their rights. you dont have the same rights as a U.S. citizen. so many rape our country and take advantage of our our liberties when they have no right to enjoy them. wait in line with everybody else.

[imagoober]

:mad: Send them all back to mexico or where ever they came from, until they enter legally they dont belong here!:mad:

[Euphoric]

We're all illegal aliens

[Fabolous]

you see there part of the fucking reason i got no JOB!, you know in my state they had a huge ass march like LA did (I guess they said 10,000 showed) and all i could have though of is, this is one outta many reasons why i can't get a job, is because people are coming into this country and willing to work below minimum wage jobs, switch screwed the rest of us.

[Reefer Rogue]

Send em packing.

[friendowl]

all you white people go to the library and look up where you came from.
you are the immigrants.

filthy greedy white bastard brought disease here.
the indians should have killed the fucking pilgrims.
they were nice and look what happened.
all they got know are casino's.

[pabloescobar209]

higher stock values
they clean your house
mow your lawn
make your food
clean up after your food
fix your car
clean up after fixing your car
12-15 million undocumented immigrants are currently in america
If there undocumented how do you know how many there are?

[rhino44]

the indians tried to kill us and we stomped their ass. fuckem we were stronger and smarter. we were more civilized and had greater technology. if they had joined together and fought us in an organized manner they might have stood a chance.

the problem isnt immigrants. its illegal immigrants. look how many cant and are not willing to learn english. what good are they? all they seem to do is reproduce extremely fast and spit in the face of everything this country stands for.

they just cant wait to get over hear and rape uncle sam for all he's worth. of course not all are like this but enough are that u cant ignore it. sorry they fuck it up for the good hard workers.

i hope they pass the harshest laws possible and get as many out of here as they can.

its a huge mess and who knows what the hell is gonna happen

[xblackdogx]

actually I'm not a big fan. So your response to me is an attack on Bill O'Reily instead of my reasoning :confused:

not offended
No, more like i dont think you are balancing the true two sides of the predicament, as Bill loves to do. Like stating mexicans are "cutting in front of lines": the ones that are here, are already helping the economy grow with their blood sweat and tears, why not let them become citizens if they want, it'll still take years.
-And for the "tax evading" and healthcare issue: I have no doubt that illegal immigrants wouldn't care if they paid taxes, given they get higher wages. The true criminals are the businesses that hire: they are the only ones that are evading taxes. At least we agree that they should be held accountable :thumbsup: .

[xblackdogx]

here is a story that sums up my feelings towards our governments ability or lack there of to enforce our immigration/deportation laws.

an illegal mexican in my city was charged with 4 DUI's. released everytime. never had a license or registration or anything. they just let him go. one day he does it again and drives over the dividing line hitting a minivan with a mom/dad and 4 kids. only the youngest girl survived. why was this piece of shit not deported.

i just dont think illegals should get all comfortable and start screaming about their rights. you dont have the same rights as a U.S. citizen. so many rape our country and take advantage of our our liberties when they have no right to enjoy them. wait in line with everybody else.
Seems like illegal immigrants are on the short end on the stick in many issues. Yes that man should have been deported/jailed: he is a criminal. But don't generalize with this one guy, many illegal immigrants would agree that the criminals that are illegal should be deported, and that is part of the plan when changing this bill by reform leaders.

[friendowl]

when the pilgrims arrived they were near death.
the indiands fed em and brought em back to health.
showed then how to plant food and live off the land.
then the white men backstabbed.
if thats what you call being stronger and smarter
then when you get to prison and you got a big brown dick
being thrust into your chest cavity be sure to sing
" the star spangled banner you bitch"

[rhino44]

i wasnt talking about just the pilgrims. we arent all decended from them. lol you think the indians taught us how to plant and live off the land? we had been doing that for thousands of years.

lol im not going to prison unlike you. how does it feel having a big brown dick in your stomach? did you sing "viva la mexico"? lol

[friendowl]

no i was singing " 99 thugs on the wall "
rape one down pass his ass around 98 thugs on the wall

[rhino44]

lmao

[higher4hockey]

^ word

[benagain]

If they can't come over the right way, then don't come over. It's just making it harder for people to come over legaly when some douchebag is just jumping the fence.

[friendowl]

fuck it
lets have a nation wide royal rumble
who evers left after a year can stay

[benagain]

fuck it
lets have a nation wide royal rumble
who evers left after a year can stay

There you go. King of the ring style.

[Fengzi]

I've always been against illegal immigration, especially since my wife immigrated legally and I know what dealing with the INS is all about. It's not fun, trust me. So it pisses me off when people think it's ok to simply not bother.

That being said, I think making illegals felons is ridiculous. It just opens up a huge can of worms with enormous ramifications down the road. Especially since it would make aiding an illegal alien a felony as well. People's first thought tends to be "great, punish those who hire illegals" But it's not just the employers. It's also teachers, doctors, nurses, etc . A teacher who suspects a child may be here illegally would be forced to turn the student in or he could be charged with a felony as well. Basically this would turn any professional who might come into contact with illegals a defacto immigration officer.

I live in San Jose, California and the population is about 30%+ Hispanic. The stereotype Mexican is either a gang-banger, or lazy sombrero wearing tequila drinker. This is dead wrong, however, most of the Mexicans I have known are some of the hardest working people around. They bust their asses doing shit jobs that knowbody else wants and do it for far less $ than anyone else would.

What we need is some kind of migrant worker program. A new type of visa that is fairly easy to obtain and but is clearly temporary. Place certain restrictions on it, give the workers some kind of tax id#, etc. Something that will benefit both the migrant workes as well as the rest of us. Anything but this ridiculous new idea of making illegals felons.

[friendowl]

fengzi for governor

good idae man

everybody ends up profitting.

fengzi for governor

[Psycho4Bud]

I wonder who organize this protest(because i know mexicans just dont get up one day and say lets have a protest) as with all protest theres a mad man at the helm and its usually a white man

Well I'll be damned! Just like your great grandfather before you, you take time out of your busy schedule to rally the Mexicans!:thumbsup: LOL

[eg420ne]

Are you the mad man who started this protest psycho, tryin to distract the people from the war and the lies of 911....:thumbsup:

[likemclever]

No, more like i dont think you are balancing the true two sides of the predicament, as Bill loves to do. Like stating mexicans are "cutting in front of lines": the ones that are here, are already helping the economy grow with their blood sweat and tears, why not let them become citizens if they want, it'll still take years.
-And for the "tax evading" and healthcare issue: I have no doubt that illegal immigrants wouldn't care if they paid taxes, given they get higher wages. The true criminals are the businesses that hire: they are the only ones that are evading taxes. At least we agree that they should be held accountable :thumbsup: .

Itâ??s not my intention to present both sides of anything. I present my side Iâ??m not a reporter. :smokin:

How is it not â??cutting in line?â?� If you are in the hospital waiting for a heart transplant and someone sneaks in and snatches your donor heart out of the cooler and runs next door to have it implanted into his own chest. IMO that person is a dirty bastard who cut in line. Both men had a need for the heart yet one man decided that his own need was greater than anyone elseâ??s. Which also happens to makes him selfish.

I also think that we should give the ones who are here an opportunity at citizen ship. Only because it makes fiscal sense and has a better opportunity with success. However, those who fail to register and pay taxes (your right they would get higher wages) would be deported. No need for lawyers for everyone you either registered or you didnâ??t your either illegal or your notâ?¦â?¦deported case closed.

The American people allow it to happen because for so long they have closed one eye to the situation and allowed it to happen. People donâ??t like to be called racist or fascist or whatever the popular word is these days so they pretend they donâ??t notice. American business would do it if the public demanded it of them.

I remember that huge ad campaign back in the 80â??s that was about â??Made in the USAâ?� label on things. It got people pretty fired up sadly I think it ultimately died because of some type of controversy but it was still a good campaignâ?¦ they should bring it back. Personally, I think the only reason why no major American corporation has done it is because none of them carry enough American made products to keep them in business. It would be like shooting themselves in the foot. :rolleyes:

:thumbsup:

[likemclever]

when the pilgrims arrived they were near death.
the indiands fed em and brought em back to health.
showed then how to plant food and live off the land.
then the white men backstabbed.
if thats what you call being stronger and smarter
then when you get to prison and you got a big brown dick
being thrust into your chest cavity be sure to sing
" the star spangled banner you bitch"

I realize your not talking to me here but

What was done to Native Americans back then was unacceptable I donâ??t think many argue otherwise. But the fact is that every nation has at some point in their history done some pretty nasty things. How far do you want to go back? When do people start taking personal responsibility for the state of their lives?

I live in Native American grand central station. The major tribes here are doing quite well for themselves. And I say good for them although, I think they donâ??t always let their money trickle down as far as it should within the tribe.

[Shelbay]

They need to go back to the port of entry that they should have come through in the first place and get a guest worker permit....we will never know exactly how many or who is who really except for the millions that are here working,honest and truly doing right...they should be made to pay taxes and help with their healthcare but the fact is that most of the illegals coming from Mexico don't want to be an American citizen...they want to support their families back in Mexico (home) and hope one day to be able to go back home theirselves and have a better life...to me this is like trying to close the door after the horse got out kind of thing...way to late.

[Shelbay]

Yes I understand that there are many reasons why someone may want to flee their homeland. But I equate illegal immigration with cutting in line and not just in front of other Mexicans but butting in front of the whole world. Why should a Mexican have a greater right to be an American than some other deserving soul from say Chad. So the way I see it is ....if someone is not chasing you with a butcher knife than wait in line just like everyone else.

Iâ??ve been to Panmunjeom and the JSA/DMZ and South Koreanâ??s donâ??t have to worry about fleeing millions of North Koreans because North Korean soldiers would shoot them in the back if they tried. Thatâ??s not exactly Mr. Foxâ??s solution he gives them maps and tips on how to violate our sovereignty.

I think employers who knowingly hire illegal immigrants should be severally punished. If you stop making it beneficial to them they will stop doing it.

I have no way of knowing if the fine Mexican at the pizza joint is illegal or not. It is left up to the employer to check his documentation.

I would like very much to be able to grow my own grass : )
Concerning employers in this state (Alabama) they did get a rude awakening last year in a lawsuit which was won by the defendant (17 year old illegal) who was working on the roof of a new home being built when he fell and was in a coma for a few days,sustained permanent brain damage and the courts here ruled that his employers had to pay a settlement and he WILL get a check for life..being cared for now by his Mother..the company will not appeal the ruling so...business owners still hire of course but are really beginning to understand they want more and more and are winning. When a certain part of Alabama was being "taken over" literally by the dangerous ones that we didn't even know who they were...we started taking pics of the employers tags picking them up for "work" and sent them to the IRS..thats the only time we actually saw any action taken. Its difficult to continue the way things are now considering the rally held here had apprx. 200 legals and illegals and the main focus was on the women (illegals) that had multiple children with them saying their children are legal and they need their parents..what can you do with that? And also the main theme was a moajority saying that we can send them home but they will be back tomorrow...and are never going to stop...oh well there is another "rally" coming up the 8th of next month so...should be interesting.

[MorbidImpishFae]

I guess my whole problem with the illegals issue is the "They do the jobs no one wants" song and dance.

If they weren't there willing to DO the crappy jobs for minimum wage, companies would be forced to pay a living wage to thier employees and provide better working conditions. (For example, in my hometown we have a chicken processing plant that has been known to employ illegals...back when there were fewer, the working conditions weren't as bad...now, if you miss a day for any reason, you don't have a job AND you have ZERO chance of promotion within the plant unless you speak Spanish.)

People complain that hiring people at a wage that's considered livable (livable NOT being 10 people in a one bedroom apartment) would cause a raise in prices...and it probably would, since companies that have been padding thier wallets with goods made by people living in substandard conditions sold at inflated prices is standard practice, but do we really want to ENCOURAGE this sort-of behavior in companies by making it easier for illegals to be here?

Then again, I'm sure if we closed the border, more companies would just move to Mexico to exploit it's economic situation.

I'm sympathetic to poverty, but comming from a state where we've got people who live a step or two above Mexico conditions, I'd rather see the border closed and more focus on taking care of the abundance of people this countries already got.

(Yeah, I know someone's likely to make the arguement that NOWHERE in the US is as bad as Mexico, but there ARE people who live in shacks without electricity, running water, and who sometimes have to bet their next meal on what they can catch in backwater parts of Arkansas...like Madison County)

[eg420ne]

Every race has a Klan, the mexican KKK is no different

Marchers say gringos, not illegals, have to go
http://prisonplanet.com/articles/march2006/290306_b_Marchers.htm
WASHINGTON â?? While debates about guest-worker programs for illegal aliens take place in the corridors of power, in the streets of America's big cities no amnesty is being offered by activists calling for the expulsion of most U.S. citizens from their own country.

While politicians debate the fate of some 12 million people residing in the U.S. illegally, the Mexica Movement, one of the organizers of the mass protest in Los Angeles this week, has already decided it is the "non-indigenous," white, English-speaking U.S. citizens of European descent who have to leave what they call "our continent."

The pictures and captions tell the story.

"This is our continent, not yours!" exclaimed one banner.

"We are indigenous! The only owners of this continent!" said another.

"If you think I'm illegal because I'm a Mexican, learn the true history, because I'm in my homeland," read another sign.


"One of the more negative parts of the march was when American flags were passed out to make sure the marchers were looked on as part of 'America,'" said the group's commentary on the L.A. rally.

'Immigration Protests' Cover For Racist Ethnic Cleansing Movement
Atzlan and Mexican Klan groups rejoice at start of 'la reconquista'
http://prisonplanet.com/articles/march2006/290306ethniccleansing.htm

[sbskico1]

write your Congressman....we had a Congressman speak at our school
he stated that many times when he has to vote he refers to the number of calls rec'd. If 10 people call FOR a bill, and 100 people call AGAINST a bill he will often vote based on the number of calls rec'd as those are the people he represents.

WRITE and/or CALL your Congressman TODAY.

[xblackdogx]

write your Congressman....we had a Congressman speak at our school
he stated that many times when he has to vote he refers to the number of calls rec'd. If 10 people call FOR a bill, and 100 people call AGAINST a bill he will often vote based on the number of calls rec'd as those are the people he represents.

WRITE and/or CALL your Congressman TODAY.
maybe thats how your Congressman does it, but these blood sucking parasites (to our money) do what is in THEIR interest... not all those in Congress are like this, but they are all cowards

[sbskico1]

maybe thats how your Congressman does it, but these blood sucking parasites (to our money) do what is in THEIR interest... not all those in Congress are like this, but they are all cowards


That's more of a reason to call then....bug the hell out of them, tie up their phone lines.........

[rhino44]

huge march in san diego right now. i hope they keep it peaceful. it doesnt take many to make things look bad for alot of them.