Moussaoui says he was to fly 5th jet on 9/11

[Psycho4Bud]

ALEXANDRIA, Virginia (Reuters) - Zacarias Moussaoui said on Monday he was supposed to fly a fifth aeroplane into the White House as part of the September 11 plot and knew two other planes were to fly into New York's World Trade Centre.

Taking the stand at his sentencing trial, Moussaoui -- the only person charged in the United States in connection with the September 11 attacks -- said "shoebomber" Richard Reid was to join him as part of the crew in the suicide mission.

Reid failed in an attempt to blow up an American Airlines plane from Paris to Miami in December 2001 after passengers and crew tackled him as he tried to ignite explosives in his shoe. He was sentenced to life imprisonment in January 2003.

Moussaoui's claim contradicted what he said last year in pleading guilty: that he was not supposed to be part of the September 11 hijackings but was meant to be in a second wave of al Qaeda attacks and fly an aeroplane into the White House.

Moussaoui said he did not know the precise date of the planned attacks when he was arrested in Minnesota on August 16, 2001, and had only scant details of the overall plan.

"I had knowledge that the two towers would be hit but I didn't have the detail," said Moussaoui, dressed in a green prisoner jumpsuit and white cap.

Moussaoui is on trial now to determine if he will be executed.

Asked by Gerald Zerkin, one of his court-appointed attorneys, if he was meant to be part of the September 11 attacks, Moussaoui said: "I was supposed to pilot a plane to hit the White House."
http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyID=2006-03-27T185809Z_01_N27378567_RTRUKOC_0_UK-SECURITY-MOUSSAOUI.xml

Nice to see he would rather take the death penalty than to implicate Bush and the U.S. government!!:rolleyes:

HOW MANY EYE WITNESS ACCOUNTS DO PEOPLE NEED???:stoned:

[Great Spirit]

Lol more government propaganada. Why all of a sudden are you trying to prove that 9/11 was caused by Arab terrorists with boxcutters after I told you it was cargo planes that hit the WTC which had a pod attached to the bottom of each of them, and that a cruise missile hit the pentagon?! When you can show me evidence of a plane wreckage at the Pentagon then we'll talk. Until then..please stop swaying people away from the truth of 9/11 which was used to bring about a dictatorship in Amerika just like the Reichstag Fire that brought Hitler to power. History repeats!

We are living in exciting, but turbulent times people. Don't believe him folks! I think this person and certain others are NSA infiltrating these boards. In case you didn't realize, cannabis.com contains grow information and "cannabis connections" so yes the Nazi Amerikans will be interested in this as they want to eradicate all pot smokers.

Funny too that when I went to look at porn earlier today, a whole shitload of popups from cannabis.com came up! Hmmmm.......I smell NSA! Remember...the real terrorists are in the White House and Congress. The people we go up against are very powerful and ignorant.

Gestappo = NSA
Reichstag Fire = 9/11
Nazi Germany = Fascist GOP Amerika
Hitler = Bush
Nazi war with Poland = Amerikan war with Iran (soon!)
Enabling Act = Patriot Act
Jews/Communists = Arabs/Homosexuals

I am ready for them to come get me. I will really have fun then! It's not a matter of IF they will come, just a matter of WHEN they will. Just like the Nazis! It has happened before. What makes you think it won't happen again?!

Damn you Amerikan fascists declare war on everything! Why is WAR such an important word? Lol I mean shit...you have a war on drugs, war on terror, and a war in Iraq and Afghanistan. May as well declare war on humanity and love!

[eg420ne]

Our government is tooo funny, wonder what kind of torture they used on moussaoui(maybe they used chinese water torture)I really consider anything the government saids to be complete bullshit, its like micheal jackson saying, he dont like boys....maybe george needs to stop them golden showers from condi(or gannon)....The government conspiracy theory is dead no1 beLIEves the lie:thumbsup:

Indeed, what good fortune for governments, that men do not think....

[Psycho4Bud]

Lol more government propaganada. Why all of a sudden are you trying to prove that 9/11 was caused by Arab terrorists with boxcutters after I told you it was cargo planes that hit the WTC which had a pod attached to the bottom of each of them,

Oh, since you informed all us of your vast knowledge we should give up on free thought? Who's the Nazi now?:thumbsup: By the way, I've been debating this on here for much longer than you have been a member....but what the hell, we didn't have your superior intellect until recent.

and that a cruise missile hit the pentagon?!

LOL....now that's a good one. Explain how a cruise missle produced the damage that it did with a progressive narrowing of the damaged area? A cruise missle would have exploded upon first contact...unless you meant bunker buster which would have penetrated the initial walls and detonated inside the Pentagon? Maybe it was a "divine force"? LOL

[Psycho4Bud]

Our government is tooo funny, wonder what kind of torture they used on moussaoui(maybe they used chinese water torture)I really consider anything the government saids to be complete bullshit, its like micheal jackson saying, he dont like boys....maybe george needs to stop them golden showers from condi(or gannon)....The government conspiracy theory is dead no1 beLIEves the lie:thumbsup:

Indeed, what good fortune for governments, that men do not think....

LOL...and I thought you were going to state that he, and his family, and friends were all paid off by the C.I.A.! Oh well, so much for Assuming!!!

Have a good one bro!!!:thumbsup:

[mfactor420]

Well, psycho, you been fingered buddy.:D I have to agree with eg420ne. I wonder what kind of torture they used on Moussaoui? I don't doubt for a minute they didn't use torture. After all, the American Admin. would be the first to blame the Arabs of torturing priosners to confess anything, why wouldn't it be the other way around? If one is capable, so are others.

I don't know exactly what hit the pentagon, but it weren't no airplane.:confused:

The length of time you have been debating this topic here still does not prove you are not NSA. I'm not saying you are or aren't but the questions are there. Even you, pyscho, have not provided me with the concrete proof I am seeking to believe you, let alone believe Great Spirit and company.

Sorry but my jury is still deliberating, but leaning heavily toward truth behind the "conspiracy theory".:thumbsup:

[Psycho4Bud]

The length of time you have been debating this topic here still does not prove you are not NSA. I'm not saying you are or aren't but the questions are there.

Well if I'm NSA I wish to hell they wouldn't have locked my ass up for growing weed. And what the fuck, an NSA agent doing community service? NOT RIGHT AT ALL!!! Where's my pull, my inside connections when I need em?:confused:

How many agents do you think there are giving advice on growing weed or posting picks of their garden? I really don't give a fuck what ya think as far as my "secret agent" status but if ya ever plan a trip to Packer country give me a yell.....you can smoke a fatty with an NSA agent and maybe even have a shot of scotch while your here!

Great Spirit, Hempity....same bullshit in a different wrapper! Believe as I do or your a secret agent working for the government! Explain something to me, if I WERE an agent...wouldn't I try to blend in and come across as some anti-government poster to win the confidence of the weak minded in here? Ol' boy Great Spirit has the religious convictions of a severe right wing republican but comes across as the revealer of the NSA. HMMMMMM.....I WONDER????

How many posts does ol' boy have in the growing section? How many pics of his plants or grows does he have posted? FUCKIN' THINK PEOPLE!!!

Send me an e-mail address and I'll send ya my conviction link from the Wisconsin Court system! Now prove yourself G.S.....either that or tell your sister to wipe my love off her chin!:thumbsup:

Have a good one!

[mfactor420]

.......I really don't give a fuck what ya think as far as my "secret agent" status but if ya ever plan a trip to Packer country give me a yell.....you can smoke a fatty with an NSA agent and maybe even have a shot of scotch while your here!

I like Jack or Crown Royal with some ice, please.:thumbsup: Oh, and I haven't posted anything in the grow section either. Does that make me a contender?:D

Honestly, I don't believe you are an "agent", I was just playing devil's advocate. Forgive me.

[Psycho4Bud]

I like Jack or Crown Royal with some ice, please.:thumbsup: Oh, and I haven't posted anything in the grow section either. Does that make me a contender?:D

You aren't the major accuser in this so no probs with you dude! I don't have any Crown Royal but there's always a bottle of Jack in the house....makes a great mix with scotch....gotta try it sometime! Here's a good mix drink for ya...Jim Beam, Jack Daniels, Yukon Jack, and some Drewers Scotch.........SMOOOOOOTH!!!:thumbsup:

Honestly, I don't believe you are an "agent", I was just playing devil's advocate. Forgive me.

It's cool, like I said....you ever make it to Packerland give a yell before the trip! Always got a hot "j" and a cool drink always ready for a bro! :thumbsup:

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

[Great Spirit]

PSYCHO4BUD....answer me.....do you believe the official government story about 9/11 with terrorists hijacking real commercial airlines?

I'm sorry but I am still not convinced thats terrorists with boxcutters hijacked planes. There is more evidence supporting my "theory" than does the government's story.

Oh wait....look here! You know where I am at NSA people! I am ready for you....

Besides NO ONE can fly a plane that low at that speed!! Just thought you would want to know. :dance:

[andruejaysin]

Actually, I've though that for a long time, 5 pilots for 4 planes didn't make much sense. For the record, I'm a former KGB agent, fired for cooking meth using gulag labor.

[Psycho4Bud]

PSYCHO4BUD....answer me.....do you believe the official government story about 9/11 with terrorists hijacking real commercial airlines?

Why yes I do!:thumbsup:

I'm sorry but I am still not convinced thats terrorists with boxcutters hijacked planes. There is more evidence supporting my "theory" than does the government's story.

LOL.....I've read it all and don't buy it...sorry to disappoint ya!

Oh wait....look here! You know where I am at NSA people! I am ready for you....

Sitting at the right side of MABUS I presume.

Besides NO ONE can fly a plane that low at that speed!! Just thought you would want to know. :dance:

Lucky hit? Whatever it was it REALLY did happen! OOOPS forgot, the C.I.A. cut checks to all witnesses, relatives, and friends of the people listed in the flight and to all the witnesses that saw a plane on that day. :rolleyes:

[Psycho4Bud]

Our government is tooo funny, wonder what kind of torture they used on moussaoui(maybe they used chinese water torture)

This U.S. citizen with his lawyer would have a MAJOR ass lawsuit if that were the truth.

Should have said he had a V-chip implanted to make him say such things.....:thumbsup:

[Great Spirit]

perhaps they did torture him and make him say false things. who knows man, but i still stand convinced that 9/11 was used for a dictatorship in amerika. lol shit iran and north korea are on the US's shitlist and war with reign happily. one nation in the axis of evil has already been conquered which is iraq. you can see how the insurgency is winning against the sole superpower. iran will happen this summer i believe and north korea will happen a year or 2 away probably. china will be involved in this conflict

i imagine bush as a powerful agent of the Dark with a higher than normal vibration. in the Game...we chose him for his mission. we should actually be kissing bush's ass right now (sad but true. sorry) because he will help us evolve. but i am speaking universally. have love for the guy for christs sake! i can see love in bush honestly.

yet i hate this man for his crimes against humanity. for he is from the quatrain of 3 water signs that was said to appear and ravage the world. he shall be the last of the major antichrists in our time. the last 2 "antichrists" predicted were only a century apart remember. bush and hitler are the same soul i speculate. bush was born very soon after hitler died so it would make perfect sense in a way. his family had nazi ties and so as a rule...kind of has to follow this way. the bush family are war profiters. i guess keeping it in the family is good.

bush will use fundemental christianity as his means of fascism. the Dark isn't stupid by a long shot and they know religion is the greatest weapon of deception. they have the longest most in depth mathematical skills..as math is an expression of god remember! sacred geometry. physics they have mastered too. they know all knowledge. knowledge is essentially "dark"...while wisdom is the "light". Knowledge speaks but wisdom listens as Jimi Hendrix said.

i never knew that what I feared the most would save me...that is my mind!

i go to my father who is in heaven. :rasta:

[mfactor420]

Well said Great Spirit!:thumbsup: What's that Biblical verse about those of the devil using Bible verse against Christians? Yes, the devil is very slick and a wolf in sheep's clothing.

Maybe others don't understand what you are trying to say, but most times I do.:thumbsup:

[Great Spirit]

Well said Great Spirit!:thumbsup: What's that Biblical verse about those of the devil using Bible verse against Christians? Yes, the devil is very slick and a wolf in sheep's clothing.

Maybe others don't understand what you are trying to say, but most times I do.:thumbsup:Thanks. The Christian devil does not exist. It was made up and exaggerated by the Catholic Church to scare pagans into converting. We all know what "good" the Catholic Church did.

The Devil is the self or ego that we all must conquer. The concept of the "devil" originated when the Jews became associated with another montheistic religion....Zoroastrianism. Later on...the Devil became personified as an actual entity.

Orthodox Christians fail to realize that their New Testament Bible was not even officially canonized until the 6th century AD! The Gospel of Thomas is said to have predated all the other gospels and is said to be the actual "Q" source which was the lost sayings gospel that the 3 synoptic gospels were sourced from, although I could be wrong about that.

The Gospel of Mark was the first canonical gospel written. Actually in Mark, there is no record of a devil talking to Jesus in the wilderness and in the original manuscript there is no mention of Jesus actually rising from the dead. It just says a man was by the tomb...however in Luke I think it mentions 2 ANGELS at the tomb instead of a man. Well..which was it? A man or 2 angels? Fundementalists say the Bible has no contradictions, yet there is a pure contradiction there.

Mark chap 16 verse 9-20 were added later to it and so many fundementalists base their ideology on that added verse. See what happens if you don't pay attention and find the truth!!!???

[Psycho4Bud]

Thanks. The Christian devil does not exist. It was made up and exaggerated by the Catholic Church to scare pagans into converting. We all know what "good" the Catholic Church did.

The Devil is the self or ego that we all must conquer. The concept of the "devil" originated when the Jews became associated with another montheistic religion....Zoroastrianism. Later on...the Devil became personified as an actual entity.

Orthodox Christians fail to realize that their New Testament Bible was not even officially canonized until the 6th century AD! The Gospel of Thomas is said to have predated all the other gospels and is said to be the actual "Q" source which was the lost sayings gospel that the 3 synoptic gospels were sourced from, although I could be wrong about that.

The Gospel of Mark was the first canonical gospel written. Actually in Mark, there is no record of a devil talking to Jesus in the wilderness and in the original manuscript there is no mention of Jesus actually rising from the dead. It just says a man was by the tomb...however in Luke I think it mentions 2 ANGELS at the tomb instead of a man. Well..which was it? A man or 2 angels? Fundementalists say the Bible has no contradictions, yet there is a pure contradiction there.

Mark chap 16 verse 9-20 were added later to it and so many fundementalists base their ideology on that added verse. See what happens if you don't pay attention and find the truth!!!???

Spirituality
Spirituality, practices, rituals, etc. Please respect others when discussing religion - thank you.

Guess you didn't realize this was the politics area.

[eg420ne]

Was moussaoui wearing a stunbelt? Watch the whole video
http://www.total411.info/

I believe it, this criminal government will do anything to make its shit smell like cherries...

[Psycho4Bud]

Was moussaoui wearing a stunbelt? Watch the whole video
http://www.total411.info/

I believe it, this criminal government will do anything to make its shit smell like cherries...
The announcer did say that this was his first day without outbursts!:thumbsup:

http://www.motherjones.com/news/outfront/2000/03/outfrontma00.html
The belts are used to control defendants in courtrooms and inmate crews working beyond the prison walls. But they're also used out of public view, where abuses can go unchecked. Deputies strap the belts on inmates being driven to hospitals or courthouses, and prison guards use them instead of shackles. At Red Onion State Prison in Virginia, 10 inmates were required to wear the belts while meeting with an attorney investigating charges of human rights violations; one prisoner who refused to wear the device was barred from speaking to the lawyer. Some officials even use the belt to control people with mental illness: The shock device was activated twice against Barrington Wilson, a Miami defendant whose behavior included eating his own feces and talking to an imaginary friend named Frank.

[eg420ne]

Well I guess we can welcome in the 21st-century Amerika!

[Psycho4Bud]

Well I guess we can welcome in the 21st-century Amerika!

Wouldn't want to wear it but wouldn't mind being behind the button. SHOCKING huh? LOL:dance:

[Great Spirit]

LOL....now that's a good one. Explain how a cruise missle produced the damage that it did with a progressive narrowing of the damaged area? A cruise missle would have exploded upon first contact...unless you meant bunker buster which would have penetrated the initial walls and detonated inside the Pentagon? Maybe it was a "divine force"? LOLHere ya go! Enjoy.

[Psycho4Bud]

Like I stated........enjoy!:thumbsup:

[Psycho4Bud]

Little education on cruise missiles.....they don't penetrate the way the damage was done!

Cruise Missiles have three basic attack modes*'


Coordinate Airburst: The missile goes off in mid air when it reaches its target coordinates. In other words, the target isn't a thing, it's a place * a point in space over a certain spot on the ground. This mode is ideal for deploying submunitions, gasses and large*area airburst nukes.


Coordinate Ground Impact: This is similar to coordinate airburst, except that the missile dives to hit the ground when it reaches its target coordinates. This is good for ground*impact nukes and area coverage for napalm, as well as hitting completely immobile targets at precisely*known coordinates.


Target Attack: In this mode the missile is assigned a specific target object, as well as target coordinates. When the missile arrives at the vicinity of the coordinates, it uses its sensors (imaging and radar, usually) to locate an object which matches its target profile, and then flies into the target object and sets off its warhead. If it fails to find the object within about a quarter*mile radius of the target coordinates, the missile reverts to coordinate ground impact mode.

[Psycho4Bud]

Nope, wasn't a bunker buster either!

An extremely strong tube that is:
very narrow for its weight
extremely heavy

The bomb is dropped from an airplane so that this tube develops a great deal of speed, and therefore kinetic energy, as it falls.

When the bomb hits the earth, it is like a massive nail shot from a nail gun. In tests, the GBU-28 has penetrated 100 feet (30.5 meters) of earth or 20 feet (6 meters) of concrete.

In a typical mission, intelligence sources or aerial/satellite images reveal the location of the bunker. A GBU-28 is loaded into a B2 Stealth bomber, an F-111 or similar aircraft.

The bomber flies near the target, the target is illuminated and the bomb is dropped.

The GBU-28 has in the past been fitted with a delay fuze (FMU-143) so that it explodes after penetration rather than on impact:thumbsup:

[eg420ne]

So what did hit the pentagon a "hot dog"--

[mont974x4]

that must have been massive chili dog. A regular hotdog wouldn't have made such damage lmao

[Psycho4Bud]

So what did hit the pentagon a "hot dog"--

I've heard rumors that it was an airplane!:thumbsup:


Mike Walter

USA Today's Mike Walter was driving near the Pentagon when he saw an American Airlines jet fly directly into the country's military nerve center. [544kB WAV download]


Steve Anderson, Director of Communications, USA TODAY

A few moments later, as I was looking down at my desk, the plane caught my eye.

It didn't register at first. I thought to myself that I couldn't believe the pilot was flying so low. Then it dawned on me what was about to happen. I watched in horror as the plane flew at treetop level, banked slightly to the left, drug it's wing along the ground and slammed into the west wall of the Pentagon exploding into a giant orange fireball. Then black smoke. Then white smoke.

Deb Anlauf

Anlauf was watching TV coverage of the Trade Center burning shortly before 9:30 a.m. when she decided to return to her 14th-floor room from another part of the hotel. Once in her room, she heard a "loud roar" and looked out the window to see what was going on.
"Suddenly I saw this plane right outside my window," Anlauf said during a telephone interview from her hotel room this morning. "You felt like you could touch it; it was that close. It was just incredible. "Then it shot straight across from where we are and flew right into the Pentagon. It was just this huge fireball that crashed into the wall (of the Pentagon). When it hit, the whole hotel shook."


David Battle

Battle, an office worker at the Pentagon, was standing outside the building and just about to enter when the aircraft struck. "It was coming down head first," he said. "And when the impact hit, the cars and everything were just shaking."

Omar Campo

Omar Campo, a Salvadorean, was cutting the grass on the other side of the road when the plane flew over his head.

"It was a passenger plane. I think an American Airways plane," Mr Campo said. "I was cutting the grass and it came in screaming over my head. I felt the impact. The whole ground shook and the whole area was full of fire. I could never imagine I would see anything like that here."

Gary Bauer, former Presidential candidate

â??I was going past the Pentagon, really inching a yard or so every couple of minutes. I had just passed the closest place the Pentagon is to the exit on 395 . . . when all of a sudden I heard the roar of a jet engine.
â??I looked at the woman sitting in the car next to me. She had this startled look on her face. We were all thinking the same thing. We looked out the front of our windows to try to see the plane, and it wasnâ??t until a few seconds later that we realized the jet was coming up behind us on that major highway. And it veered to the right into the Pentagon. The blast literally rocked all of our cars. It was an incredible moment.


Mickey Bell

Bell, who had been less than 100 feet from the initial impact of the plane, was nearly struck by one of the plane´s wings as it sped by him. In shock, he got into his truck, which had been parked in the trailer compound, and sped away. He wandered around Arlington in his truck and tried to make wireless phone calls. He ended up back at Singleton´s headquarters in Gaithersburg two hours later, according to President Singleton, not remembering much.

The full impact of the closeness of the crash wasn´t realized until coworkers noticed damage to Bell´s work vehicle. He had plastic and rivets from an airplane imbedded in its sheet metal, but Bell had no idea what had happened.

Mark Bright, Defense Protective Service officer

Mark Bright, actually saw the plane hit the building. He had been manning the guard booth at the Mall Entrance to the building.

"I saw the plane at the Navy Annex area," he said. "I knew it was going to strike the building because it was very, very low -- at the height of the street lights. It knocked a couple down." The plane would have been seconds from impact -- the annex is only a few hundred yards from the Pentagon.

He said he heard the plane "power-up" just before it struck the Pentagon. "As soon as it struck the building I just called in an attack, because I knew it couldn't be accidental," Bright said. He jumped into his police cruiser and headed to the area.

James R. Cissell

''Out of my peripheral vision,'' Cissell said, ''I saw this plane coming in and it was low - and getting lower.

''If you couldn't touch it from standing on the highway, you could by standing on your car.''

In the next seconds dozens of things flashed through his mind.

''I thought, 'This isn't really happening. That is a big plane.' Then I saw the faces of some of the passengers on board,'' Cissell said.

He remembers the helipad the plane flew over before smacking into the Pentagon was close enough to him that ''I could have thrown a baseball at it and hit it.''

Dan Creed

He and two colleagues from Oracle software were stopped in a car near the Naval Annex, next to the Pentagon, when they saw the plane dive down and level off.

"It was no more than 30 feet off the ground, and it was screaming. It was just screaming. It was nothing more than a guided missile at that point," Creed said.

"I can still see the plane. I can still see it right now. It's just the most frightening thing in the world, going full speed, going full throttle, its wheels up," Creed recalls.

Don Fortunato

â??Traffic was at a standstill, so I parked on the shoulder, not far from the scene and ran to the site. Next to me was a cab from D.C., its windshield smashed out by pieces of lampposts. There were pieces of the plane all over the highway, pieces of wing, I think.â?�

Afework Hagos

Afework Hagos, a computer programmer, was on his way to work but stuck in a traffic jam near the Pentagon when the plane flew over. "There was a huge screaming noise and I got out of the car as the plane came over. Everybody was running away in different directions. It was tilting its wings up and down like it was trying to balance. It hit some lampposts on the way in."

Tom Hovis

Being a former transport type (60's era) I cannot understand how that plane hit where it did giving the direction the aircraft was taking at the time.

As most know, the Pentagon lies at the bottom of two hills from the west with the east side being next to the river at 14th street bridge. One hill is at the Navy Annex and the other is Arlington Cemetery. The plane came up I-395 also known as Shirley Hwy. (most likely used as a reference point.) The plane had been seen making a lazy pattern in the no fly zone over the White House and US Cap. Why the plane did not hit incoming traffic coming down the river from the north to Reagan Nat'l. is beyond me. Strangely, no one at the Reagan Tower noticed the aircraft. Andrews AFB radar should have also picked up the aircraft I would think. Nevertheless, the aircarft went southwest near Springfield and then veered left over Arlington and then put the nose down coming over Ft Myer picking off trees and light poles near the helicopter pad next to building. It was as if he leveled out at the last minute and put it square into the building. The wings came off as if it went through an arch way leaving a hole in the side of the building it seems a little larger than the wide body of the aircraft. The entry point was so clean that the roof (shown in news photo) fell in on the wreckage.

Terrance Kean

Terrance Kean, 35, who lives in a 14-story building nearby, heard the loud jet engines and glanced out his window.

"I saw this very, very large passenger jet," said the architect, who had been packing for a move. "It just plowed right into the side of the Pentagon. The nose penetrated into the portico. And then it sort of disappeared, and there was fire and smoke everywhere. . . . It was very sort of surreal."

Charles H. Krohn

One of the aircraft's engines somehow ricocheted out of the building and arched into the Pentagon's mall parking area between the main building and the new loading dock facility, said Charles H. Krohn, the Army's deputy chief of public affairs. Those fleeing the building heard a loud secondary explosion about 10 min. after the initial impact.

Maj. Lincoln Leibner

Maj. Leibner drove in and made it as far as the south parking lot, where he got out on foot. "I heard the plane first," he said. "I thought it was a flyover Arlington cemetery."

From his vantage point, Maj. Leibner looked up and saw the plane come in. "I was about 100 yards away," he said. "You could see through the windows of the aircraft. I saw it hit."

The plane came in hard and level and was flown full throttle into the building, dead center mass, Maj. Leibner said. "The plane completely entered the building," he said. "I got a little repercussion, from the sound, the blast. I've heard artillery, and that was louder than the loudest has to offer.

Elaine McCusker

Traffic is normally slow right around the Pentagon as the road winds and we line up to cross the 14th Street bridge heading into the District of Columbia. I donâ??t know what made me look up, but I did and I saw a very low-flying American Airlines plane that seemed to be accelerating. My first thought was just â??No, no, no, no,â?? because it was obvious the plane was not heading to nearby Reagan National Airport. It was going to crash.

William Middleton Sr.

William Middleton Sr., was running his street sweeper through the cemetery when he heard a harsh whistling sound overhead. Middleton looked up and spotted a commercial jet whose pilot seemed to be fighting with his own craft.
Middleton said the plane was no higher than the tops of telephone poles as it lurched toward the Pentagon. The jet accelerated in the final few hundred yards before it tore into the building.


Mare Ann Owens

Looking up didn't tell me what type of plane it was because it was so close I could only see the bottom. Realising the Pentagon was its target, I didn't think the careering, full-throttled craft would get that far. Its downward angle was too sharp, its elevation of maybe 50 feet, too low. Street lights toppled as the plane barely cleared the Interstate 395 overpass.

The thought that I was about to die was immediate and certain. This plane was going to hit me along with all the other commuters trapped on Washington Boulevard.

Gripping the steering wheel of my vibrating car, I involuntarily ducked as the wobbling plane thundered over my head. Once it passed, I raised slightly and grimaced as the left wing dipped and scraped the helicopter area just before the nose crashed into the southwest wall of the Pentagon.

Christine Peterson

I was at a complete stop on the road in front of the helipad at the Pentagon; what I had thought would be a shortcut was as slow as the other routes I had taken that morning. I looked idly out my window to the left -- and saw a plane flying so low I said, â??holy cow, that plane is going to hit my carâ?� (not my actual words). The car shook as the plane flew over. It was so close that I could read the numbers under the wing.

And then the plane crashed. My mind could not comprehend what had happened. Where did the plane go? For some reason I expected it to bounce off the Pentagon wall in pieces. But there was no plane visible, only huge billows of smoke and torrents of fire.

Frank Probst

American Airlines Flight 77 approached from the west, coming in low over the nearby five-story Navy Annex on a hill overlooking the Pentagon.

"He has lights off, wheels up, nose down," Probst recalled. The plane seemed to be accelerating directly toward him. He froze.

"I knew I was dead," he said later. "The only thing I thought was, 'Damn, my wife has to go to another funeral, and I'm not going to see my two boys again.'."

He dove to his right. He recalls the engine passing on one side of him, about six feet away.

The plane's right wing went through a generator trailer "like butter," Probst said. The starboard engine hit a low cement wall and blew apart.

Clyde Ragland

Ragland described billowing black smoke and "what looked like white confetti raining down everywhere." He said it soon became apparent "that the 'confetti' was little bits of airplane, falling down after being flung high into the bright, blue sky."

Tim Timmerman

A pilot who saw the impact, Tim Timmerman, said it had been an American Airways 757. "It added power on its way in," he said. "The nose hit, and the wings came forward and it went up in a fireball."

Thomas D. Trapasso

Thomas D. Trapasso, a political appointee in the Clinton Administration who is now looking for work, was making telephone calls from his deck in Arlington Village, about 1 mi. south of the Pentagon and just west of the Interstate 395 (I-395) highway. He was startled by the large American Airlines aircraft flying about 300 ft. overhead. "The engines were just screaming, and the wheels were up," Trapasso said. "It disappeared over the trees, and I heard a boom. I knew something awful had happened--that an airplane had crashed somewhere in Washington, D.C.

Alan Wallace

About 9:40, Alan Wallace had finished fixing the foam metering valve on the back of his fire truck parked in the Pentagon fire station and walked to the front of the station. He looked up and saw a jetliner coming straight at him. It was about 25 feet off the ground, no landing wheels visible, a few hundred yards away and closing fast.

"Runnnnn!" he yelled to a pal. There was no time to look back, barely time to scramble. He made it about 30 feet, heard a terrible roar, felt the heat, and dove underneath a van, skinning his stomach as he slid along the blacktop, sailing under it as though he were riding a luge. The van protected him against burning metal that was flying around. A few seconds later he was sliding back out to check on his friend and then race back to the firetruck. He jumped in, threw it into gear, but the accelerator was dead. The entire back of the truck was destroyed, the cab on fire. He grabbed the radio headset and called the main station at Fort Myer to report the unimaginable.

The sun was still low in the sky, obscured by the Pentagon and the enormous billowing clouds of acrid smoke, making it hauntingly dark. The ground was on fire. Trees were on fire. Hot slices of aluminum were everywhere.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/911_pentagon_eyewitnesses.html

[Psycho4Bud]

On a Metro train to National Airport, Allen Cleveland looked out the window to see a jet heading down toward the Pentagon. 'I thought, "There's no landing strip on that side of the subway tracks,"' he said. Before he could process that thought, he saw 'a huge mushroom cloud. The lady next to me was in absolute hysterics.'"
- "Our Plane Is Being Hijacked." Washington Post, 12 Sep 2001


"I was supposed to have been going to the Pentagon Tuesday morning at about 11:00am (EDT) and was getting ready, and thank goodness I wasn't going to be going until later. It was so shocking, I was listening to the news on what had happened in New York, and just happened to look out the window because I heard a low flying plane and then I saw it hit the Pentagon. It happened so fast... it was in the air one moment and in the building the next..."
- "U.S. Under Attack: Your Eyewitness Accounts." BBC News, 14 Sep 2001


"As I approached the Pentagon, which was still not quite in view, listening on the radio to the first reports about the World Trade Center disaster in New York, a jetliner, apparently at full throttle and not more than a couple of hundred yards above the ground, screamed overhead. ... Seconds before the Pentagon came into view a huge black cloud of smoke rose above the road ahead. I came around the bend and there was the Pentagon billowing smoke, flames and debris, blackened on one side and with a gaping hole where the airplane had hit it."
- "Eyewitness at the Pentagon." Human Events, 17 Sep 2001


"Frank Probst, an information management specialist for the Pentagon Renovation Program, left his office trailer near the Pentagon's south parking lot at 9:36 a.m. Sept. 11. Walking north beside Route 27, he suddenly saw a commercial airliner crest the hilltop Navy Annex. American Airlines Flight 77 reached him so fast and flew so low that Probst dropped to the ground, fearing he'd lose his head to its right engine."
- "A Defiant Recovery." The Retired Officer Magazine, January 2002


"USAToday.com Editor Joel Sucherman saw it all: an American Airlines jetliner fly left to right across his field of vision as he commuted to work Tuesday morning. It was highly unusual. The large plane was 20 feet off the ground and a mere 50 to 75 yards from his windshield. Two seconds later and before he could see if the landing gear was down or any of the horror-struck faces inside, the plane slammed into the west wall of the Pentagon 100 yards away. 'My first thought was he's not going to make it across the river to [Reagan] National Airport. But whoever was flying the plane made no attempt to change direction,' Sucherman said. 'It was coming in at a high rate of speed, but not at a steep angleâ??almost like a heat-seeking missile was locked onto its target and staying dead on course.'"
- "Journalist Witnesses Pentagon Crash." eWeek.com, 13 Sep 2001


"'I mean it was like a cruise missile with wings, went right there and slammed into the Pentagon,' eyewitness Mike Walter said of the plane that hit the military complex. 'Huge explosion, great ball of fire, smoke started billowing out, and then it was just chaos on the highway as people either tried to move around the traffic and go down either forward or backwards,' he said."
- "Witnesses and Leaders on Terrorist Attacks." CNN, 11 Sep 2001


"'(The plane) was flying fast and low and the Pentagon was the obvious target,' said Fred Gaskins, who was driving to his job as a national editor at USA Today near the Pentagon when the plane passed about 150 feet overhead. 'It was flying very smoothly and calmly, without any hint that anything was wrong.'"
- "Bush Vows Retaliation for 'Evil Acts'." USA Today, 11 Sep 2001


"Aydan Kizildrgli, an English language student who is a native of Turkey, saw the jetliner bank slightly then strike a western wall of the huge five-sided building that is the headquarters of the nation's military. 'There was a big boom,' he said. 'Everybody was in shock. I turned around to the car behind me and yelled "Did you see that?" Nobody could believe it.'"
- "Bush Vows Retaliation for 'Evil Acts'." USA Today, 11 Sep 2001


"'I saw the tail of a large airliner. ... It plowed right into the Pentagon," said an Associated Press Radio reporter who witnessed the crash. 'There is billowing black smoke.'"
- "America's Morning of Terror." ChannelOne.com, 2001


"Omar Campo, a Salvadorean, was cutting the grass on the other side of the road when the plane flew over his head. 'It was a passenger plane. I think an American Airways plane,' Mr Campo said. 'I was cutting the grass and it came in screaming over my head. I felt the impact. The whole ground shook and the whole area was full of fire. I could never imagine I would see anything like that here.'"
- "Pentagon Eyewitness Accounts." The Guardian, 12 Sep 2001


"Afework Hagos, a computer programmer, was on his way to work but stuck in a traffic jam near the Pentagon when the plane flew over. 'There was a huge screaming noise and I got out of the car as the plane came over. Everybody was running away in different directions. It was tilting its wings up and down like it was trying to balance. It hit some lampposts on the way in.'"
- "Pentagon Eyewitness Accounts." The Guardian, 12 Sep 2001


"A pilot who saw the impact, Tim Timmerman, said it had been an American Airways 757. "'It added power on its way in,' he said. 'The nose hit, and the wings came forward and it went up in a fireball.'"
- "Pentagon Eyewitness Accounts." The Guardian, 12 Sep 2001


"Steve Eiden, a truck driver, had picked up his cargo that Tuesday morning in Williamsburg, Va., and was en route to New York City and witnessed the aftermath. ... He took the Highway 95 loop in the area of the Pentagon and thought it odd to see a plane in restricted airspace, thinking to himself it was odd that it was flying so low. 'You could almost see the people in the windows,' he said as he watched the plane disappear behind a line of trees, followed by a tall plume of black smoke. Then he saw the Pentagon on fire, and an announcement came over the radio that the Pentagon had been hit."
- "Sept. 11, the Day America Changed." The Baxter Bulletin, 2001


"Traffic is normally slow right around the Pentagon as the road winds and we line up to cross the 14th Street bridge heading into the District of Columbia. I donâ??t know what made me look up, but I did and I saw a very low-flying American Airlines plane that seemed to be accelerating. My first thought was just 'No, no, no, no,' because it was obvious the plane was not heading to nearby Reagan National Airport. It was going to crash."
- "September 11 Remembered." University Week, 4 Oct 2001


"Father Stephen McGraw was driving to a graveside service at Arlington National Cemetery the morning of Sept. 11, when he mistakenly took the Pentagon exit onto Washington Boulevard, putting him in a position to witness American Airlines Flight 77 crash into the Pentagon. 'I was in the left hand lane with my windows closed. I did not hear anything at all until the plane was just right above our cars.' McGraw estimates that the plane passed about 20 feet over his car, as he waited in the left hand lane of the road, on the side closest to the Pentagon. 'The plane clipped the top of a light pole just before it got to us, injuring a taxi driver, whose taxi was just a few feet away from my car. I saw it crash into the building,' he said. 'My only memories really were that it looked like a plane coming in for a landing. I mean in the sense that it was controlled and sort of straight. That was my impression,' he said. 'There was an explosion and a loud noise and I felt the impact. I remember seeing a fireball come out of two windows (of the Pentagon). I saw an explosion of fire billowing through those two windows.'"
- "Pentagon Crash Eyewitness Comforted Victims." MDW News Service, 28 Sep 2001


"'I glanced up just at the point where the plane was going into the building,' said Carla Thompson, who works in an Arlington, Va., office building about 1,000 yards from the crash. 'I saw an indentation in the building and then it was just blown-up upâ??red, everything red,' she said. 'Everybody was just starting to go crazy. I was petrified.'"
- "Terrorists Attack New York, Pentagon." Los Angeles Times, 12 Sep 2001


"I witnessed the jet hit the Pentagon on September 11. From my office on the 19th floor of the USA TODAY building in Arlington, Va., I have a view of Arlington Cemetery, Crystal City, the Pentagon, National Airport and the Potomac River. ... Shortly after watching the second tragedy, I heard jet engines pass our building, which, being so close to the airport is very common. But I thought the airport was closed. I figured it was a plane coming in for landing. A few moments later, as I was looking down at my desk, the plane caught my eye. It didn't register at first. I thought to myself that I couldn't believe the pilot was flying so low. Then it dawned on me what was about to happen. I watched in horror as the plane flew at treetop level, banked slightly to the left, drug it's wing along the ground and slammed into the west wall of the Pentagon exploding into a giant orange fireball. Then black smoke. Then white smoke."
- Steve Anderson, Director of Communications, USA Today


"Henry Ticknor, intern minister at the Unitarian Universalist Church of Arlington, Virginia, was driving to church that Tuesday morning when American Airlines Flight 77 came in fast and low over his car and struck the Pentagon. 'There was a puff of white smoke and then a huge billowing black cloud,' he said."
- "Hell on Earth." UU World, Jan/Feb 2002


"Northern Virginia resident John O'Keefe was one of the commuters who witnessed the attack on the Pentagon. 'I was going up 395, up Washington Blvd., listening to the the news, to WTOP, and from my left side-I don't know whether I saw or heard it first- I saw a silver plane I immediately recognized it as an American Airlines jet,' said the 25-year-old O'Keefe, managing editor of Influence, an American Lawyer Media publication about lobbying. 'It came swooping in over the highway, over my left shoulder, straight across where my car was heading. I'd just heard them saying on the radio that National Airport was closing, and I thought, "That's not going to make it to National Airport." And then I realized where I was, and that it was going to hit the Pentagon. There was a burst of orange flame that shot out that I could see through the highway overpass. Then it was just black. Just black, thick smoke.'"
- "Terrorist 'Situation'." American Lawyer Media, 11 Sep 2001
http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/blflight77w.htm

[eg420ne]

I've heard rumors that it was an airplane!:thumbsup:


Mike Walter

USA Today's Mike Walter was driving near the Pentagon when he saw an American Airlines jet fly directly into the country's military nerve center. [544kB WAV download]How convenient that mike walter be driving by the pentagon at the same time an American Airline was crashing the pentagons party, sounds to me he was taking talking points from Mr Rove


Steve Anderson, Director of Communications, USA TODAY

A few moments later, as I was looking down at my desk, the plane caught my eye.

It didn't register at first. I thought to myself that I couldn't believe the pilot was flying so low. Then it dawned on me what was about to happen. I watched in horror as the plane flew at treetop level, banked slightly to the left, drug it's wing along the ground and slammed into the west wall of the Pentagon exploding into a giant orange fireball. Then black smoke. Then white smoke. I wonder who was really druged-he said the wing drug along the ground, WHERE is the drug mark?.thats fukin funny

Deb Anlauf

Anlauf was watching TV coverage of the Trade Center burning shortly before 9:30 a.m. when she decided to return to her 14th-floor room from another part of the hotel. Once in her room, she heard a "loud roar" and looked out the window to see what was going on.
"Suddenly I saw this plane right outside my window," Anlauf said during a telephone interview from her hotel room this morning. "You felt like you could touch it; it was that close. It was just incredible. "Then it shot straight across from where we are and flew right into the Pentagon. It was just this huge fireball that crashed into the wall (of the Pentagon). When it hit, the whole hotel shook." she got brainwahed from watching all the news of planes hitting buildings, so she automaticlly thought plane, the plane


David Battle

Battle, an office worker at the Pentagon, was standing outside the building and just about to enter when the aircraft struck. "It was coming down head first," he said. "And when the impact hit, the cars and everything were just shaking." Battle, an office worker at the Pentagon.need not say more LoL

Omar Campo

Omar Campo, a Salvadorean, was cutting the grass on the other side of the road when the plane flew over his head.

"It was a passenger plane. I think an American Airways plane," Mr Campo said. "I was cutting the grass and it came in screaming over my head. I felt the impact. The whole ground shook and the whole area was full of fire. I could never imagine I would see anything like that here." Getting his 15 mins

Gary Bauer, former Presidential candidate

â??I was going past the Pentagon, really inching a yard or so every couple of minutes. I had just passed the closest place the Pentagon is to the exit on 395 . . . when all of a sudden I heard the roar of a jet engine.
â??I looked at the woman sitting in the car next to me. She had this startled look on her face. We were all thinking the same thing. We looked out the front of our windows to try to see the plane, and it wasnâ??t until a few seconds later that we realized the jet was coming up behind us on that major highway. And it veered to the right into the Pentagon. The blast literally rocked all of our cars. It was an incredible moment. Gary Bauer, former Presidential candidate, looking for a better name for himself


Mickey Bell

Bell, who had been less than 100 feet from the initial impact of the plane, was nearly struck by one of the plane´s wings as it sped by him. In shock, he got into his truck, which had been parked in the trailer compound, and sped away. He wandered around Arlington in his truck and tried to make wireless phone calls. He ended up back at Singleton´s headquarters in Gaithersburg two hours later, according to President Singleton, not remembering much. Bell, who had been less than 100 feet from the initial impact of the plane, was nearly struck by one of the plane´s wings as it sped by him. OMFG if he was almost hit by the plane wing that shit wouldve blown his shit to the ground

The full impact of the closeness of the crash wasn´t realized until coworkers noticed damage to Bell´s work vehicle. He had plastic and rivets from an airplane imbedded in its sheet metal, but Bell had no idea what had happened. He had plastic and rivets from an airplane imbedded in its sheet metal..I say it again his shit would be gone

Mark Bright, Defense Protective Service officer

Mark Bright, actually saw the plane hit the building. He had been manning the guard booth at the Mall Entrance to the building.

"I saw the plane at the Navy Annex area," he said. "I knew it was going to strike the building because it was very, very low -- at the height of the street lights. It knocked a couple down." The plane would have been seconds from impact -- the annex is only a few hundred yards from the Pentagon.

He said he heard the plane "power-up" just before it struck the Pentagon. "As soon as it struck the building I just called in an attack, because I knew it couldn't be accidental," Bright said. He jumped into his police cruiser and headed to the area. Mark Bright, Defense Protective Service officer, no more to add ...

James R. Cissell

''Out of my peripheral vision,'' Cissell said, ''I saw this plane coming in and it was low - and getting lower.

''If you couldn't touch it from standing on the highway, you could by standing on your car.''

In the next seconds dozens of things flashed through his mind.

''I thought, 'This isn't really happening. That is a big plane.' Then I saw the faces of some of the passengers on board,'' Cissell said.

He remembers the helipad the plane flew over before smacking into the Pentagon was close enough to him that ''I could have thrown a baseball at it and hit it.'' OMG i cant beLIEve people buy this shit

Dan Creed

He and two colleagues from Oracle software were stopped in a car near the Naval Annex, next to the Pentagon, when they saw the plane dive down and level off.

"It was no more than 30 feet off the ground, and it was screaming. It was just screaming. It was nothing more than a guided missile at that point," Creed said.

"I can still see the plane. I can still see it right now. It's just the most frightening thing in the world, going full speed, going full throttle, its wheels up," Creed recalls. Oracle a sercurity software company, wonder what kind of cut the gave him

Don Fortunato

â??Traffic was at a standstill, so I parked on the shoulder, not far from the scene and ran to the site. Next to me was a cab from D.C., its windshield smashed out by pieces of lampposts. There were pieces of the plane all over the highway, pieces of wing, I think.â?� Ya right

Afework Hagos

Afework Hagos, a computer programmer, was on his way to work but stuck in a traffic jam near the Pentagon when the plane flew over. "There was a huge screaming noise and I got out of the car as the plane came over. Everybody was running away in different directions. It was tilting its wings up and down like it was trying to balance. It hit some lampposts on the way in." Ok look if this dude was saying the plane was tilting back and forth, the wings should of hit ground
Tom Hovis

Being a former transport type (60's era) I cannot understand how that plane hit where it did giving the direction the aircraft was taking at the time.

As most know, the Pentagon lies at the bottom of two hills from the west with the east side being next to the river at 14th street bridge. One hill is at the Navy Annex and the other is Arlington Cemetery. The plane came up I-395 also known as Shirley Hwy. (most likely used as a reference point.) The plane had been seen making a lazy pattern in the no fly zone over the White House and US Cap. Why the plane did not hit incoming traffic coming down the river from the north to Reagan Nat'l. is beyond me. Strangely, no one at the Reagan Tower noticed the aircraft. Andrews AFB radar should have also picked up the aircraft I would think. Nevertheless, the aircarft went southwest near Springfield and then veered left over Arlington and then put the nose down coming over Ft Myer picking off trees and light poles near the helicopter pad next to building. It was as if he leveled out at the last minute and put it square into the building. The wings came off as if it went through an arch way leaving a hole in the side of the building it seems a little larger than the wide body of the aircraft. The entry point was so clean that the roof (shown in news photo) fell in on the wreckage. I like what he was saying, he said the wings broke off where the hell are they and the massive titanuim engines



http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/911_pentagon_eyewitnesses.htmlIm bored with it so im not going on with reply because i can debunked it by saying, they were either paid off or repeated what someone else had said and wanted there 15 mins...No plane hit the pentagon if a plane did hit it, it wasnt a 757....

[Psycho4Bud]

Im bored with it so im not going on with reply because i can debunked it by saying, they were either paid off .

HMMMM, the force strong it is!:thumbsup:

[eg420ne]

Force be with you......check out this lil video it be good for the eyes, it will http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6545313046180631815

[Psycho4Bud]

Force be with you......check out this lil video it be good for the eyes, it will http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6545313046180631815

Checkin' it out now but so far it's proved what I've been saying. Compare the towers collapsing compared to the controlled demo buildings coming down from top to bottom at the same time. The towers squished down like crushing a pop can while the demo buildings dropped like the bottom was blasted out.

Good for eyes it was but dark force still not convincing!:thumbsup: