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karmaxul
03-27-2006, 07:12 PM
CALCIUM

Calcium is used extensively in the plant as a component of mature cell walls. As long as the plant is growing, it needs a steady supply of calcium for proper growth and development.

The only soluble calcium compounds are lime and calcium chloride. The amount of lime that can be used as a fertilizer is limited because it drives the pH up and interferes with the operation of the microbial population in the media. Calcium chloride almost must be used in small quantities, since the accumulation of the chloride ion interferes with the uptake of other negatively charged fertilizer ions and is toxic to the microbial population.
Calcium sulfate is used in organic plant production systems as a calcium source. Calcium sulfate is essentially insoluble in water and is not available to the plants in its basic form. It can be finely ground and suspended in water for distribution within the production system, where it is processed by the microbial population in the media before the calcium is released into the media in a plant-available form. The processing takes time and the microbial system must remain in balance with its other needs for a maximum amount of calcium to be made available to the plants.

Calcium sulfate also provide sulfur to the plants, which need some sulfur for adequate growth. Far more sulfate will be provided to the organic plant production system than will be needed by the plants. The plants and the microbial system in an organic production system are fairly tolerant to the presence of high levels of sulfate. There is a limit, however, on how much sulfate the system can tolerate before it starts interfering with the operation of the system. In the field and in growing systems where soil is used, the per-plant ratio of media to plant is much higher than it is in the greenhouse and in containerized organic production systems. Increasing the volume of media in the system increases the systemâ??s holding capacity for cumulative substances like sulfate.

James Brown

Calcium should be maintained in a 1.5 : 1 ratio with phosphorous.
Calcium should be maintained at 3:1 levels to magnesium.

karmaxul
03-27-2006, 07:50 PM
From my site....

Calcium

Calcium is a fundamental building block in cell formation and particularly in cell physiology. It is the fifth most abundant element in the Earth's crust. Vitamin D in need for absorbtion.

Lime: Calcium oxide is a white crystalline solid with a melting point of 2572°C. It is manufactured by heating limestone, coral, sea shells, or chalk, which are mainly CaCO3, to drive off carbon dioxide. Lime raises pH and limits the microbial populations within a medium.

Calcium chloride: is a chemical compound of calcium and chlorine. It is highly soluble in water and it is deliquescent. It is a salt that is solid at room temperature, and it behaves as a typical ionic halide. It can be produced directly from limestone, but large amounts are also produced as a by-product of the Solvay process. Because of its hygroscopic nature, it must be kept in tightly-sealed containers. Chloride ions interfere with uptake of other negatively charged fertilizer ions and also limits the microbial population within a medium..

Calcium sulfate: is used in Gorilla Grow Complete as calcium source and for sulfur nutrition. Sulfate is the form that most microorganisms and plants use as source of sulfur for nutrition. Sulfate and sulfite is present in only a few unusual constituents of cells. Microbes and plants obtain their sulfur by reducing sulfate to sulfide which is used to synthesize almost all their sulfur containing components. Calcium sulfate is finely ground and suspended in water for distribution within the production system, where it is processed by the microbial population in the media before the calcium is released into the media in a plant-available form.

Bluefunk
03-29-2006, 10:57 PM
For christ sake... Plant cell walls are made up of the insoluble sugar CELLULOSE - FACT.

Cellulose does NOT CONTAIN CALCIUM. This is basic school biochemistry.

You said only forms of soluble forms of calcium are CaCl2 and Ca2Co3.. (which is wrong eg CaI2? Calcium iodide is soluble in water, i could mention many more) why does your fertilise have calcium sulphate in - contradiction.

STOP TRYING TO EXPLAIN THINGS YOU DONT UNDERSTAND!

Chris Seekins
03-30-2006, 03:34 AM
Sorry master Bluefunk, I beg your graces pardon.

Please your highness your humble servent only meant to say that calcium is a fundamental building block in cell formation and particularly in cell physiology and do not think I mentioned in my post that it makes up cell walls.

Read this while I sacrifice a goat in your name........

Calcium Iodine may be light, air or moisture sensitive. Keep dry. Incompatible with strong acids, strong oxidizing agents.
MSDS http://www.physchem.ox.ac.uk/MSDS/CA/calcium_iodide.html

Their is also calcium citrate, calcium hydroxide, calcium phosphates, calcium nitrate, calcium fluoride and suck a dick calcium but like calcium iodine they are no good for use with fertilizers

We were not all born geniuses as you so I hope a god such as yourself can show patients with the subhuman species of the earth such as myself.

karmaxul
03-30-2006, 03:36 AM
O shit meant to say that with this name.

acrca
03-30-2006, 04:03 AM
my friend taught me that you grind up the shell of the eggs and spread it in the soil for calcium.

Chris Seekins
03-30-2006, 04:06 AM
Ya it is good for the plants as is the sulfer biproducts gotton from them. I heard that same thing a few years ago.

turtle420
03-30-2006, 04:12 AM
Ya it is good for the plants as is the sulfer biproducts gotton from them. I heard that same thing a few years ago.
Really?

Hey ASSHOLE!

We're waiting for you over here:
http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=57311&page=16

You're hours away from getting your accounts, and your IPs banned...

Chris Seekins
03-30-2006, 05:58 AM
Dont mind Turtle, he was drinking heavily when he wrote that. (Impotentcy problem, shhhh)

Bluefunk
03-30-2006, 07:21 AM
Karmaxul, rather than throwing sarcasm at me, why don't you admit what you say is wrong? I'm gonna carry on correcting you on everything you say which I can disprove as long as you are on this board.

So.. stop spreading WRONG INFORMATION or fuck off.

So Karmaxul, you never answer me. How is calcium in plant cell walls?

Chris Seekins
03-30-2006, 02:08 PM
Bluefunk when did I say calcium was in cell walls?

Please note benefits of calcium iodine in terms of agriculture

I teach people to the best of my knowledge and always welcome other knowledge.

Bluefunk
03-30-2006, 05:09 PM
CALCIUM

Calcium is used extensively in the plant as a component of mature cell walls.

Do you not even know what you said? Your knowledge is obviously incorrect judging by this thread and many others so stop spreading it?

Why note the agricultural benefits of calcium iodiDE? That was just the first soluble calcium salt i could think of after you said the ONLY soluble types were lime/ calcium sulphate.

Chris Seekins
03-30-2006, 06:02 PM
The only calcium ions with agricultural applications are the ones I mentioned.
If you have other info feel free to share, knowledge is always appreciated.

Notice the word "used" not "made up of".

Take care. I think you would sound more intelligent sharing info that you look up instead of insulting others hoping they will do research for you.

Bluefunk
03-30-2006, 07:27 PM
CALCIUM

Calcium is used extensively in the plant as a component of mature cell walls.


If something is a componant of something, it is made up of it by definition.

Chris Seekins
03-30-2006, 08:48 PM
Once again I appoligize for not being clear, I thought the word used would make clear that it is used as in broken down and used, not collected by cell walls. Thanks for clearing it up for everyone.

cactusman23
03-31-2006, 12:51 AM
Calcium is good for bones.

Sparrow
04-03-2006, 08:12 PM
Yes cactusman23 calcium is good for the bones. Did you know that if you drink soda with a 2.5 ph such as coke and pepsi do to the phosuric acid the calcium is drawn from the bones as the bodies natural way of adjusting ph and is a major cause of ostioperousis. This is mostly in women who have breast milk also rich in calcium. I wonder what builds the calcium?

Jdog7000
04-04-2006, 01:43 PM
wow good info. I think I'll cut down on my soda intake!

MaryJaneScott
04-05-2006, 01:37 AM
JDog... stop drinking pop NOW!! Hopefully your breastmilk is still o.k. lol :thumbsup: ;)

Garden Knowm
04-06-2006, 01:10 AM
MARY....what are you doing in here..


















naked?

Sparrow
04-06-2006, 01:21 AM
dude are you ok?

Garden Knowm
04-06-2006, 05:25 AM
dude...

MaryJaneScott
04-06-2006, 09:35 PM
Well... I was worried about JDog's breastmilk... and I worry more efficiently when naked... :p

Garden Knowm
04-07-2006, 06:17 AM
i think I will name my computer after you...


you know why?

MaryJaneScott
04-07-2006, 11:26 AM
Please do not tarnish my good name by associating it with a mac. LOVE!
And some more love...
:)

Garden Knowm
04-11-2006, 08:12 PM
OUCH...
and I coulda been a contender!!

buzzedagain
05-07-2006, 03:42 PM
Did some one say naked? Garden naked,be one with natrue

MaryJaneScott
05-07-2006, 03:57 PM
Did some one say naked? Garden naked,be one with natrue

yes GK... be naked... NOW
Please notify me prior to your nakedness so that I may arrange my transport to YOU.

buzzedagain
05-07-2006, 09:04 PM
Im stoned, naked , and unfortunully alone, but Im feeling really organic. Its anice day , I think Ill go for a walk in the woods out back. Will I still be considered naked if i where shoes and a camo hat?

Garden Knowm
05-08-2006, 04:01 AM
ok
i will be naked in about 13 minutes
and................

buthead
05-19-2006, 11:43 PM
got milk?it has calcium,thats good for boners....lol...