Help me choose my righteous path

[robert42]

Ive become pretty religious latly i had a life changing experience recently and now i stronhly believe in a god.

Im also big into meditation so if anyone could tell me some tips for meditation or life changing experiences, ways to relax, books, websites...etc

i would appreciate it.

:)

[harmonicminor]

A good visit to the other dimensions through the use of Salvia or DMT or Amanita should set ya straight.
Its how it was done a few thousand years ago but that method has mostly been suppressed by money hungry people that say "come to my church every sunday and give me a tenth of your money because god wants it and you will be saved".

[mrdevious]

Well, I could offer some advice from a buddhist perspective....

1. practice conscious awareness (as I described in another thread). Whenever you're out, walking about, maintain your focus on the world around you. Keep yourself totally focused on your surroundings and sensory perceptions, seeing the world around you in total clarity. as you do this, withdraw your focus from your self, eventaully until you can forget the self, but only maintain your awareness. your clarity in perception, concentration, and stress reduction will all greatly increase. also this is a fundamental buddhist method in clearing that which clouds your mind: uncontrolled emotions, instinctive drives, patterns of thought that trap you in a narrow mindset - these are all things that trap your mind in a system of pre-set though which prevent you from seeing the true self.

2. I hear a disturbing amount of people here who only meditate while stoned. I'm not saying that doens't have it's benefits, but if you cannot teach your mind to be in a meditative state on it's own power, you won't develope it much.

3. When meditating, a good method is the concentrate on the breath. Also, don't worry about what type of mindset you're gaining, if you're failing or succeeding. make your meditation goaless, and simply do that which you need to do, the results can come as they are meant to.

4. One of the hardest things to do for everybody (me included) is let go of hatred, grudges, the wrongs which people have inflicted upon you. just try to recognize that people's negative actions are the result of an undeveloped mind, one which is still controlled by internal drives. it is when you remove the ability of drives, emotions, and conditioning (including habbits) to control you, that you can truely attain total control and understanding over your own mind.

5. Craving and aversion are said to be the 2 main causes of suffering. one who is trapped in suffering (mentally) is inhibited, as the suffering controls your mind, rather than controlling it yourself. The idea is to eliminate the need to indulge craving, and eliminate the fear of that which you find unpleasant (pain and loss particularily). Simply view the world in as much clarity as you can, do what you must to make your existence a good one, and the rest is just karma (karma is the innevitable, the course of events outside your control. it should not be clung to to avoided, but accepted as the innetitable and disregarded from yourself).

[robert42]

Thanks guys

Hey MrDevious u seem so wise :) thanks for taking the time to post that for me i know its easy to simply give a one line answer i appreciate it, im becoming very interested in Buddhism its highly interesting. And for the meditation ive really enjoyed learning more its amazing.
i agree with what u say about meditating stoned (i recently quit pot and found meditating is much easier and my mind is clearer when medidating when sober)

Again thanks all input welcome :)

Peace to all

[PureEvil760]

alright i will..not u fucking egotistical humans pissed me off today so just fuck off..thats it nothing else..fuck off u see how false this is yet? no probably not cause u still think u are right about everything u think everything u know when in reality we are just animals and know nothing shut the fuck up

[robert42]

alright i will..not u fucking egotistical humans pissed me off today so just fuck off..thats it nothing else..fuck off u see how false this is yet? no probably not cause u still think u are right about everything u think everything u know when in reality we are just animals and know nothing shut the fuck up

yea man deep :confused: :rasta:

[graph]

Well, I could offer some advice from a buddhist perspective....

1. practice conscious awareness (as I described in another thread). Whenever you're out, walking about, maintain your focus on the world around you. Keep yourself totally focused on your surroundings and sensory perceptions, seeing the world around you in total clarity. as you do this, withdraw your focus from your self, eventaully until you can forget the self, but only maintain your awareness. your clarity in perception, concentration, and stress reduction will all greatly increase. also this is a fundamental buddhist method in clearing that which clouds your mind: uncontrolled emotions, instinctive drives, patterns of thought that trap you in a narrow mindset - these are all things that trap your mind in a system of pre-set though which prevent you from seeing the true self.

2. I hear a disturbing amount of people here who only meditate while stoned. I'm not saying that doens't have it's benefits, but if you cannot teach your mind to be in a meditative state on it's own power, you won't develope it much.

3. When meditating, a good method is the concentrate on the breath. Also, don't worry about what type of mindset you're gaining, if you're failing or succeeding. make your meditation goaless, and simply do that which you need to do, the results can come as they are meant to.

4. One of the hardest things to do for everybody (me included) is let go of hatred, grudges, the wrongs which people have inflicted upon you. just try to recognize that people's negative actions are the result of an undeveloped mind, one which is still controlled by internal drives. it is when you remove the ability of drives, emotions, and conditioning (including habbits) to control you, that you can truely attain total control and understanding over your own mind.

5. Craving and aversion are said to be the 2 main causes of suffering. one who is trapped in suffering (mentally) is inhibited, as the suffering controls your mind, rather than controlling it yourself. The idea is to eliminate the need to indulge craving, and eliminate the fear of that which you find unpleasant (pain and loss particularily). Simply view the world in as much clarity as you can, do what you must to make your existence a good one, and the rest is just karma (karma is the innevitable, the course of events outside your control. it should not be clung to to avoided, but accepted as the innetitable and disregarded from yourself).

Being a buddhist myself, I don't believe one should meditate while high. I think this bastardizes the experience. I mean, I do love smoking weed, but meditating is its own euphoria that I believe should be seperate. One method I always take to meditation is trying to answer questions that have no answer. Like the old "if a tree falls in the woods, will anyone hear it?" There are so many questions that will begin popping into your head. Find clarity in it all.

Also, (and I think mrdevious hinted at this but I just wanted to clarify) you can't use karma as a crutch. When someone does wrong to you, you can't say "they'll get what's commin to em", you must learn to constantly forgive. Sometimes, the hardest is forgiving yourself"

[mrdevious]

Being a buddhist myself, I don't believe one should meditate while high. I think this bastardizes the experience. I mean, I do love smoking weed, but meditating is its own euphoria that I believe should be seperate. One method I always take to meditation is trying to answer questions that have no answer. Like the old "if a tree falls in the woods, will anyone hear it?" There are so many questions that will begin popping into your head. Find clarity in it all.

Also, (and I think mrdevious hinted at this but I just wanted to clarify) you can't use karma as a crutch. When someone does wrong to you, you can't say "they'll get what's commin to em", you must learn to constantly forgive. Sometimes, the hardest is forgiving yourself"

I agree with your view on meditation as well, taking drugs during meditation forces your mind into a state which is inflexible and limiting. while the stoned experience itself may be very spiritually rewarding, using it in meditation only prevents you from seeking a higher state of mind within your own power. if you can't attain this state without drugs, then there will be no real mental developement, only the indulgence of the temporary high.

Personally, on the karma issue, I've never believed karma is a system of univeral retribution. karma is the path set by you which influences your own mind and the world around you. I think a lot of people make the mistake that it's some kind of court-system from the universe.

[beachguy in thongs]

When meditating, try to squeeze your whole face into the tip of your nose. :)