Does GOD love America more?

[sbskico1]

I mean, come on, we're just under 300 years old.....and look what we have accomplished....give us another hundred years and the American flag will be on Mars......it makes my smile to think the U.S. will have its own planet someday!!!!:dance:



What would Martian weed be like?

Have a nice weekend.......:rasta:

[Kryzco]

lol martian weed

or what if we are the ones to introduce weed to the martians

poppin a bunch of alien stoner cherries!

[benagain]

If bush has his way, we'd have the rest of this planet. what's another one.

[Fabolous]

i am sure martians got there own drugs , humm maybe a swap? are weed for there less dangerous but nice high drug.

[drinksmokesleep]

i wonder wot Martian LSD would be like lol

[Fabolous]

if you watch the moives, LSD is probably just there Vitamin's for the day

[Oneironaut]

There is no God. Even if there was one, he would love everybody equally and not favor one country over another. He wouldn't be up there saying "I know I love humanity and all, but I really love those people who live in the large swath of land between the 49th parallel, the Rio Grande River, the Atlantic Ocean and the Pacific Ocean. Oh, and the guys in Alaska and Hawaii".

If our accomplishments mean God likes us more, then the starvation in poverty and Ethiopia means God hates Ethiopia more. And God must love the Germans more than the Jews, because Germany is a strong economic power and has been a major player in world affairs for a long time, while Jews were almost wiped out in Europe during the Holocaust and Israel hasn't caught up to Germany in industrial and technological development.

[beachguy in thongs]

Martian weed is legal in the U.S.

[UnViaje]

^^hes right
i capped the puto in his sleep, owed me 5o bones

[Fengzi]

Of course God loves us more. He gave us GW Bush didn't he?? :(

[benagain]

Of course God loves us more. He gave us GW Bush didn't he?? :(

LMAO. Well said.

[Oneironaut]

Yeah. If there's a God who loves any one country over the rest, it's Holland. :rasta:

[geonagual]

I dont think God would want borders up between any countries. He would want you to roam freely about the world.

[Reefer Rogue]

Or Jamaica :rasta:

[UnViaje]

Hawaii, if you dont give a fukk about weed laws and hold your own, only revelling in the foliage and tropical atmosphere
fukk yeah, or Cancun

[Jimmicrackedcorn]

Americans are mutated brits, we shoved you on a boat cuz of ure utter ineptitude at spelling the word colour, ure persistance of calling a pavement a sidewalk, ure incapability of pronouncing the 'h' sound in herb and driving on the wrong side of the road like those god forsaken french ppl!

Plus you talk to fucking much!

In retrospect, I wish we had left on a boat and left you here. You got the MUCH better half of the deal.
Thanks for Blues music, Jimi Hendrix and Richard Feynman.

Remember God loves your nation, but when the shit hits the fan, he's saving the Queen :thumbsup:

[slipknotpsycho]

we shoved you on a boat cuz of ure utter ineptitude at spelling the word colour
how ironic, and you think you have room to talk about our spelling?

[Jimmicrackedcorn]

u understood didn't ya?

[UnViaje]

GOD RAPE THE QUEEN
eh?

now bytch about that one for a while

[Jimmicrackedcorn]

Thats just strange man

[UnViaje]

its a strange world

[Jimmicrackedcorn]

Touché

[Kryzco]

lol it is it is

man now I want some martian lsd

oh think of the shrooms they would have

but in my opinion, mars shouldn't be the US's planet, that wouldn't be good seeing as the us govt can't handle a country, much less an entire planet

[Oneironaut]

Yeah. I mean, it's red anyways. We should let the Chinese have it. You know they could use the room.

[benagain]

Yeah. I mean, it's red anyways. We should let the Chinese have it. You know they could use the room.

LMAO Too true

[del...]

nah, you got it backwards. america loves god more than the rest of the world loves him...think about it.

[Jimmicrackedcorn]

Yeah. I mean, it's red anyways. We should let the Chinese have it. You know they could use the room.

You racist bastard...........you can't talk about rink-a-dinks like that man!

Honestly, you americans, you don't kno the meaning of the word respect.:dance:

[beachguy in thongs]

Honestly, you americans, you don't kno the meaning of the word respect.:dance:
You don't know the meaning of culture.

[Jimmicrackedcorn]

Tis true, elaborate and educate.............

[orangeman]

Thats crazy to think, why would God love America more than other coutries when America is the most corrupt...well probably not the most but it's pretty close to it :p. I think God loves the world equally.

[beachguy in thongs]

People become part of you, if you get to know them enough. And try to. The more you try to get to know people you don't like, the more cultured you'll become. People come into the U.S. from different ways, it was so easy to get here, before all these immigration laws. The only problem was crossing the Mississippi. The waters are warm on the east coast, so it was easy for the Puerto Ricans to swim to Amsterdam, NY.

[Jimmicrackedcorn]

Hmmmmmm......so an attempt to further understanding of an alien concept which, at first glance, is repugnant/illogical to you.......so could you be cultured, by understanding foreign concepts, and the logic behind them....yet still be a racist? as you fundamentally disagree?

[beachguy in thongs]

I am not a racist. I've been harbored by all nationalities. Except a Brit.

And, no, there's nothing that even comes close to being evidence as our genes being altered by aliens. Except, maybe, a voice box. There are foreign materials and uncomprehendable happenings, things carried by meteors, things we find in space (on our own), and lots of things to make me believe in aliens, including the fact that I saw a UFO.

[Fengzi]

Americans are mutated brits, we shoved you on a boat cuz of ure utter ineptitude at spelling the word colour, ure persistance of calling a pavement a sidewalk, ure incapability of pronouncing the 'h' sound in herb and driving on the wrong side of the road like those god forsaken french ppl!

Plus you talk to fucking much!

In retrospect, I wish we had left on a boat and left you here. You got the MUCH better half of the deal.
Thanks for Blues music, Jimi Hendrix and Richard Feynman.

Remember God loves your nation, but when the shit hits the fan, he's saving the Queen :thumbsup:

Yeah, we're fucked up. But at least we know the value of a good orthodontist :D

[420kidder]

Well actually GOD doesn't exist and was something that was made up many years ago to make people feel more secure and not so afraid to die. Do you think anyone wants to hear that they will no longer exist when they die? Of course not you have to tell them that they will magicly go to this wonderful place. Ever wonder why religious people say god created this and that and that there's no such thing as the bing bang theory or evolution? Religious people are good at following others and the worst part about it is they try to convince you when you're a child.

I think it is complete garbage to tell an impressionable child that they can or can't do certain things because of god. It's been proven that humans generally want to believe in god because it makes them feel better. Obviously if you're too naive to realize you're living in a fictional world you won't let the world's problems affect you so much.

So to answer your question, maybe people that exist or are alive like us better or worse than other countries, but this has nothing to do with your conception of god. We are better than some countries generally speaking, and we are a lot worse than some too.

[Jimmicrackedcorn]

Genes and aliens? eh?
Buuuuut......if some snicks are wicks, and all wicks are zonkers, then some zonkers are defineatly snicks. This statement is:
True
False
I don't know:confused:
Where and when did you see a UFO?

And a tooth joke, oh hardy har fuckin' har, coooooooooooooooome ooooooooohoooooohooooon man, haven't heard that like a billion times. Teeth Jokes are to brits, as fat jokes am to yanks, there are plenty more things this green and pleasant land is infamous for than bad teeth, dig deeper.............

[beachguy in thongs]

In March of 1991. From Amsterdam, NY, but, I swear, it circled half the globe.

[Jimmicrackedcorn]

Shit, was it just a light in the sky, or a structure you could make out?

[geonagual]

Yeah, we're fucked up. But at least we know the value of a good orthodontist :D

Now. That is funny.:D

[beachguy in thongs]

It was a very clear night. I was watching the NCAA Basketball tournament, when I saw a bright star out his living room window, that looked like it was falling, but really unusually. Then as I'm watching this "star" traverse the sky, in a downward motion, it took a direct turn at about 120 degrees. Then I caught my friend's attention and we went out side to look. We watched it continue to travel in that direction and had almost completely turned around. My friend told me to run and get binoculars that were in his kitchen. I ran quick and came back out, my friend was still looking up, but over the house (when we first came out it was up to the Northwest, but when I ran in, it was over the house, to the Southeast).

It was very high in the sky, and there was no doubt it should've been there, but I came back out, it was gone. My friend said that there was, like, an explosion then it took off. It was very high, and traveled very far. And I saw it take a direct turn, on a button.

The government has restricted me from releasing any more information.

[slipknotpsycho]

The government has restricted me from releasing any more information.
i almost (key word: almost) believed your story.. up to this point...

[sbskico1]

Thats crazy to think, why would God love America more than other coutries when America is the most corrupt...well probably not the most but it's pretty close to it :p. I think God loves the world equally.


Because the USA respects the people's rights more than any other place.
In the news the other day-Europe- I think, a Middle East man asks a Middle East woman out for a date. She said "no", so he set her on fire!!!!!

Last week a Muslim man converts to Christianity and is sentence to death.......I know its not P.C. , but their f$cking animals...



Interesting that those who complain about America never leave.... what's that saying "actions speak louder than words" OR
those who complain are not the same people who make America great

[sbskico1]

nah, you got it backwards. america loves god more than the rest of the world loves him...think about it.

Wow...that just rocked my mind............

[da haze meister]

There is no God. Even if there was one, he would love everybody equally and not favor one country over another. He wouldn't be up there saying "I know I love humanity and all, but I really love those people who live in the large swath of land between the 49th parallel, the Rio Grande River, the Atlantic Ocean and the Pacific Ocean. Oh, and the guys in Alaska and Hawaii".

If our accomplishments mean God likes us more, then the starvation in poverty and Ethiopia means God hates Ethiopia more. And God must love the Germans more than the Jews, because Germany is a strong economic power and has been a major player in world affairs for a long time, while Jews were almost wiped out in Europe during the Holocaust and Israel hasn't caught up to Germany in industrial and technological development.
israel makes almost every computer processor ever made.

[sbskico1]

Germany won't last a week against Israel in a war. Because Europe has been invaded by the THIRD WORLD.

[sbskico1]

There is no God. Even if there was one, he would love everybody equally and not favor one country over another. He wouldn't be up there saying "I know I love humanity and all, but I really love those people who live in the large swath of land between the 49th parallel, the Rio Grande River, the Atlantic Ocean and the Pacific Ocean. Oh, and the guys in Alaska and Hawaii".

If our accomplishments mean God likes us more, then the starvation in poverty and Ethiopia means God hates Ethiopia more. And God must love the Germans more than the Jews, because Germany is a strong economic power and has been a major player in world affairs for a long time, while Jews were almost wiped out in Europe during the Holocaust and Israel hasn't caught up to Germany in industrial and technological development.


Simple...God helps those who help themselves and Ethiopia is the way it is because the people will not say "ENOUGH!!!!" a warlord with no solders is no warlord

[pogmoasal1]

man why is this named dose god love america more? its about aliens
and no country is alowed to own any planets.
and man jimmicrackedcorn is a stupid british fuck. its people like you who give other brits a bad name.
and whats wrong with the "its red we should give it to china" comment?
its not racist. there communists and that means there "red" cause thats the color (not colour color we won the war we can spell it how we see fit) that communists use. yo.

[beachguy in thongs]

i almost (key word: almost) believed your story.. up to this point...
Um, the story is true. That last line isn't.

[Jimmicrackedcorn]

man why is this named dose god love america more? its about aliens
and no country is alowed to own any planets.
and man jimmicrackedcorn is a stupid british fuck. its people like you who give other brits a bad name.
and whats wrong with the "its red we should give it to china" comment?
its not racist. there communists and that means there "red" cause thats the color (not colour color we won the war we can spell it how we see fit) that communists use. yo.

Teeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaat :thumbsup:
Have a nice day :D

[sbskico1]

man why is this named dose god love america more? its about aliens
and no country is alowed to own any planets.
and man jimmicrackedcorn is a stupid british fuck. its people like you who give other brits a bad name.
and whats wrong with the "its red we should give it to china" comment?
its not racist. there communists and that means there "red" cause thats the color (not colour color we won the war we can spell it how we see fit) that communists use. yo.

Because most of us write when we're stoned..........and most of the time I don't take any of this seriously.....EXCEPT when I'am looking for a new connection

[Oneironaut]

Because the USA respects the people's rights more than any other place.
How do you know the USA respects people's rights more than Sweden or Belgium or Japan or Canada? If you're comparing the US to some place like Saudi Arabia or North Korea, I'd have to agree with you, but you haven't convinced me that every other place on the globe respects people's rights less than we do. I haven't seen one international study of human rights or political freedom that places the US at the top of the list internationally. And I've actually bothered to look at this stuff.

[GHoSToKeR]

I mean, come on, we're just under 300 years old.....and look what we have accomplished....give us another hundred years and the American flag will be on Mars......it makes my smile to think the U.S. will have its own planet someday!!!!:dance:

Are you fuckin kidding me? This is a joke, right?

Anyway, if God was real no doubt he'd love America more than anywhere else; if he was real he'd be a fucking asshole.

[BlazedMonk3y]

i dont think God loves this country...

[Oneironaut]

I think we can all agree that if there was a God who loved America, there would be no laws against marijuana.

[sbskico1]

How do you know the USA respects people's rights more than Sweden or Belgium or Japan or Canada? If you're comparing the US to some place like Saudi Arabia or North Korea, I'd have to agree with you, but you haven't convinced me that every other place on the globe respects people's rights less than we do. I haven't seen one international study of human rights or political freedom that places the US at the top of the list internationally. And I've actually bothered to look at this stuff.

Only liberty can make the social revolution effective and wholesome. It alone can pave the way to greater heights and prepare a society where well-being and joy shall be the heritage of all. The day will dawn when man shall for the first time have full opportunity to grow and expand in the free and generous sunshine of Anarchy. â??Alexander Berkman


The fact that Berkman came to the U.S.(not Belguim, Japan...) should answer your question.:D

[Oneironaut]

Err...you do realize that in Berkman's time, Belgium was being invaded by Germany and Japan was still under the iron fist of the emperor, don't you? Things are kind of different now.

[sbskico1]

Err...you do realize that in Berkman's time, Belgium was being invaded by Germany and Japan was still under the iron fist of the emperor, don't you? Things are kind of different now.


Err..how about Brazil,or Chile the countries do not matter...THE POINT IS HE CHOSE AMERICA................!

oh, and by the way Berkman came to America in 1889


I hope you don't take any of this personally.......I just relish mental jousting........

Peace:smokin:

[Oneironaut]

Err..how about Brazil,or Chile the countries do not matter...THE POINT IS HE CHOSE AMERICA................!

oh, and by the way Berkman came to America in 1889
You're trying to make the point that he came here because it was "freer" here. While that may have been the initial reason he came here, he quickly learned otherwise. If you actually read anything he wrote you'd know what he thought of the American government and "freedom".

In fact, he was so free that he was imprisoned when he started protesting the draft, and then the wonderful freedom-loving American government deported him back to Russia because of his political beliefs (remember that whole Red Scare thing?).

[sbskico1]

Very few educated people take anarchism seriously. Many could not even define the word. Berkman got want he deserved. My grant grandfather arrived at about the same time and started working(he was 14) in the coal mines of Penn. to help support his family. Berkman wanted to start trouble.
Many Americans expect a free ride. America is the greatest country in the history of man, because of the opportunities for advancements.

[BlazedMonk3y]

I think we can all agree that if there was a God who loved America, there would be no laws against marijuana.

i think ur confusing two diff things...

[Oneironaut]

What? I think if God was all-powerful and all-loving and really really loved America, he'd change things so that American pot smokers wouldn't have to be subject to idiotic laws that don't do anyone any good. Makes sense to me.

[GHoSToKeR]

Very few educated people take anarchism seriously.
And you know this how? From personal experience? I doubt it. I imagine the only time you ever discuss anything like it is here at Cannabis.com. The majority of "educated" people I speak to are like-minded; they agree that democracy is a bunch of crap. Maybe you're only talking to fellow conservatives, and we all know their opinions don't count for much... :rasta:


Many Americans expect a free ride. America is the greatest country in the history of man, because of the opportunities for advancements.
You're confused. You've got it all wrong, and the part of me that doesn't want to rid the planet of you and everyone like you feels for you, seriously it does. If we're gonna rate one country against another based on military industrialiasm, consumerism or capatilism, then sure, America comes out on top. But it's not the kind of poll you wanna be at the top of, you know what I mean?

Don't try and debate these things with OneIronaut and expect to 'win', it won't happen. You'll just end up looking like you don't know a fucking thing about what you're saying, which is the truth, but it's the kind of thing you wanna keep quiet.

[geonagual]

GOD HATES ALL COUNTRIES but loves all the people

Satan loves the lines that divide the earth and all the conflict it creates

[GHoSToKeR]

GOD HATES ALL COUNTRIES but loves all the people

Satan loves the lines that divide the earth and all the conflict it creates

I don't believe in Satan or God, but I totally agree with the sentiment, lol.. :)

[Oneironaut]

Very few educated people take anarchism seriously.
Even if that were the case, so what? In 1700 very few educated people took representative democracy seriously. In 1850 very few educated people took the theory of evolution seriously. An idea's merit is not based on how many people take it seriously. It is based on how true the idea is.

Many could not even define the word.
The word is quite easy to define: anarchy is simply the absence of rulers (rulers being people who enforce their wills upon others by means of threats or violence) and power hierarchies. Anarchism is the promotion of such a state of affairs, and opposition to hierarchical/authoritarian ideologies as capitalism, state, theism, sexism, racism, homophobia, etc. I am certain that the vast majority of anarchists would agree with that definition.

Berkman got want he deserved. My grant grandfather arrived at about the same time and started working(he was 14) in the coal mines of Penn. to help support his family. Berkman wanted to start trouble.
Berkman didn't want to "start trouble" just for the sake of starting trouble. He wanted to change social affairs because he perceived them as incredibly unjust.

Many Americans expect a free ride. America is the greatest country in the history of man, because of the opportunities for advancements.
Oh, I guess I was just mistaken when I thought there was a growing gap between the rich and the poor. Man, and to think all those economic statistics I studied showed that social mobility is an extreme rarity. I guess they were just evil terrorist lies. I'm sorry. I love America. *vomits*

[GHoSToKeR]

I think dude just got owned. :)

[sbskico1]

And you know this how? From personal experience? I doubt it. I imagine the only time you ever discuss anything like it is here at Cannabis.com. The majority of "educated" people I speak to are like-minded; they agree that democracy is a bunch of crap. Maybe you're only talking to fellow conservatives, and we all know their opinions don't count for much... :rasta:


You're confused. You've got it all wrong, and the part of me that doesn't want to rid the planet of you and everyone like you feels for you, seriously it does. If we're gonna rate one country against another based on military industrialiasm, consumerism or capatilism, then sure, America comes out on top. But it's not the kind of poll you wanna be at the top of, you know what I mean?

Don't try and debate these things with OneIronaut and expect to 'win', it won't happen. You'll just end up looking like you don't know a fucking thing about what you're saying, which is the truth, but it's the kind of thing you wanna keep quiet.

First of all, I already won, even before I started writing about this post.

Oh, by the way I taught Political Science at the college level. So I have the credentials. I retired to run a non-profit org.

You don't see me conducting personal attacks, do you? It's because I'm not an angry 20 something who is mad at how things are going in their life, and used boards to "flex" their muscles.


Ask 20 people(on the street) what anarchism is, I bet maybe 5, if that will know what it is.

So why are countries that are so much older than the U.S. so behind?

Think of the world as a large company.......some have worked there for thousands of years and STILL work in the mailroom....while others have worked there for only a couple of hundred years and are the CEO.

What other country gives more aid to others?

What's the difference between a liberal and a conservative?
A liberal makes excuses for lazy people! (to make himself feel better)

For the record I am a moderate....I support GreenPeace, soup kitchens,RIF, etc. but I also would like to deport all the illegals who cost the U.S. BILLIONS

Either way I respect your opinion..................................
Although some of you guys are getting WAY to worked up about this...

PEACE

[graph]

I think the best way anarchism was ever described to me was one word:

Eutopia.

No businesses, no corporations, no organizations. Everybody working together for the soul benefit of mankind. To me, that is what true anarchism means. It's not some kid up in his room listening to Dark Side of the Moon over and over again while saying that he wishes there was anarchy because then he would rule the streets, namely because if there was anarchy in that sense I would probably be the first to beat his ass down. To me, it is a makeshift nirvana, when everyone truly lets go and finds their own inner peace.

Then again, I'm also buddhist.

[TonyD]

America allows its citizens a lot less rights than countries in Europe.
America gives it's police officers a lot more power than many other western nations.
Using a timescale for how a country does is Void.

Those are facts, anything else is purely speculation.

[Oneironaut]

Ask 20 people(on the street) what anarchism is, I bet maybe 5, if that will know what it is.
What does that have to do with anything? So people are ignorant about politics. Let's educate them.

So why are countries that are so much older than the U.S. so behind?
What do you mean by "behind"?

And the question should be, if there are countries that are "behind" the U.S., why aren't we using our immense wealth and industry to help them? There is enough food in the world to feed everybody, but due to the unequal distribution of wealth on this planet millions die of starvation every year.

Think of the world as a large company.......some have worked there for thousands of years and STILL work in the mailroom....while others have worked there for only a couple of hundred years and are the CEO.
What?! You're comparing countries to people in a corporate hierarchy?! You're saying the US is the CEO of the world and gets to boss everybody else around just because it's more "advanced"? You're saying the rich white countries can boss around the brown people in the rest of the world just because they're richer and have more technology? Wake up and smell the racism buddy!

What other country gives more aid to others?
What other country wastes more money on its military? What other country initiates more coups d'état? What other country spends more money fighting the useless war on drugs? What other country imprisons more of its population? Just because we give some of our money away to make ourselves feel a little better doesn't balance out the huge inequalities that capitalism creates.

What's the difference between a liberal and a conservative?
A liberal makes excuses for lazy people! (to make himself feel better)
Er, okay...I'm neither liberal nor conservative, so I'm not sure what you mean by that.

Either way I respect your opinion..................................
Although some of you guys are getting WAY to worked up about this...
Sorry, it's just that global injustices like capitalism which are causing millions of people to starve needlessly FUCKING PISS ME OFF. :mad:

We have a right to get worked up about these kinds of things. Dare I say an obligation. If we don't get worked up about them, nothing will ever change. And if we don't change anything, we are subjecting our children to the same injustices we have to put up with. Inaction = surrender.

[GHoSToKeR]

What do you mean by "behind"?


This dude's whole idealogy is based on this concept of American behind 'ahead', and everyone else being 'behind', but I would bet my last stack of lesbian porn that he can't explain what he means by 'behind'. Dude's priorities are all fucked up anyway.

[knave666]

Remember God loves your nation, but when the shit hits the fan, he's saving the Queen :thumbsup:


Too damn right! thats some funny shit right there

[Jimmicrackedcorn]

Anarchy= Tyler Durden for president, the alter-ego of a consumer!!

"In the world I see - you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty car pool lane of some abandoned superhighway."

Anarchy would be to let go of an ideology, to fuck perfection or a right way, and accept that the way it goes is the only way, let the chips fall where they may. But yeh right man, thats why we started civilization in the first place, so we can all have a mommy to tell on our brothers, and they'll get punished duelly. To accept anarchy truly, you must accept you are going to die and could die at any minute, and that the point of life isn't to find inner peace so you and your brothers walk hand in hand in understanding, or that there is a particular "point" to it, but that conflict, destruction, and probably the most ironic part of it, killing other shit to live, is what is needed for life to even begin to flourish, accepting that you could draw the short end of the straw, and we are to mothered to accept this. We have become whiney bitches, with the belief that some ''thing'' or some ''force'', is forever looking out for our (our individual as in some1's up there lookin out for good ole Jimmi's) best interest, accept that its not about a set of models to live to, without remorse, and you have let go completely. But do not expect the makeshift nirvana, that place doesn't exist, has never existed and will never exist, you'll always have dickheads, murderers, rapists etc etc.... becuz for sum odd reason 'God' has bestowed us with the gift of pleasure, but there is a double edge to the sword, in that, the pleasure I feel from helping some1 in the street, I would also get in driving a spear through the body of a chicken so I could eat, or some1 else could attain equal pleasure from kicking sum1 for no reason in the streets, and the only rules to stop them is, to literally stop them, either by changing there viewpoint or physical force. Which was basically what it was like before we introduced the concepts of a higher power, law and order.
But the most ironic thing of it all, and the thing that makes me laugh my balls off, is that the law and order would still be here, even if we failed to write it down, to be honest, we would have ended up with this structure anyway, becuz we are a vengeful monkey (you do something I don't like, nothing is stopping me from either killing, or forcefully pushing you away from that way of living), and the fact that all 6.5 billion of us, have a slightly differing opinion, which constantly changes, shows that this (what we live in) is anarchy to the letter of the law, and the fact that we all cling to an ideology, is testament that anarchy, or any other way of living, wouldn't 'work' either, becuz we ultimately ALWAYS expect something, which is usually happiness (not always but cut me some slack), and how can you expect anything, if you don't know what it is in the first place.

In short: Shit happens! Accept it, be enlightened.............still deal with the shit! There's an old Buddhist saying (or maybe its Taoist(maybe its neither) it doesn't matter) 'The unenlightened gathers water from the well to attain enlightenment, once attained, he gathers water from the well'

[CrAzYpOtHeAd]

I mean, come on, we're just under 300 years old.....and look what we have accomplished....give us another hundred years and the American flag will be on Mars......it makes my smile to think the U.S. will have its own planet someday!!!!:dance:



What would Martian weed be like?

Have a nice weekend.......:rasta:

No, thank god i don't live in america.... lol, i prefer where i am to be honest... because i think america look's like its going to have a bad fututure. I mean it IS the americains who are polluting the world and the atmosphere the most.

[CrAzYpOtHeAd]

I think its pretty fucked up that so many yankies are posting on this thread like they are the best. Because every american iv talked to are like that. You are proud of your country, but so proud that you act the bee's knee's, and you rub it in other peoples faces altho its very clear your not the greatist humans alive. Yet you people think you are, like your a new species, but your not. Your all the same as every other person here.

and teeth jokes, thats weak man. I don't even get why thats suppose to be offensive. Because i'v never seen a brit my whole life (and iv been living in england my whole life) with bad fucking teeth. Such BS. Altho most americans are fat due to Mcdonalds.... haha.

[CrAzYpOtHeAd]

Also. You keep saying how good america is. So how come your always complainin about it? Bush this and bush that, and all these stupid laws and crime. Yet you still say your the best people alive? Also, if your all so powerfull, then what abotu the twin towers? A few terroist from a POOR country can hyjack a plane and kill THOUSANDS of americans. Thats dos'nt seem like a powerfull country to me...

[Jimmicrackedcorn]

The very title of the thread makes it a joke man, first you have to believe in God, then you gotta believe in Love, then you gotta believe in this place called 'America'. He's clearly lost the plot.

Oh and you're gonna get slammed for that WTC comment, silly man :thumbsup:

One day... one day some of the kids in the neighborhood
Carried my mother's groceries all the way home.
You know why?
It was out of respect

Now (?hear ya?) man
The orginal nuttah
Take heed and take check
UK Apache along de Shy FX
A where we come is more duration
All original gangsta man
Hear what me tell them now
Ya hear me come here now
(?imitate?)
Originate we (?keep?) originate
Alright mate
Know what yer doing mate
And what me tell them
(???)
(?get outta here and i'm gonna?) stop talk
Watch me tell dem a rude bwoy
Watch this!!!

Nay-nee-nee-woh-oh, dig-ee-nay-nay-no-no-no
Nay-nee-nee-woh-oh, zig-ee-nay-nay-no-no-no
Nay-nee-nee-woh-oh, zig-ee-nay-nay-no-no-no
Ooh-yeah-eh, ooh-yeah-eh, ooh-noo-no-no-no-no-no

Bad boys inna london
Rude boys inna england
Bad boys inna jericho
Rude boys inna kingston

Watch-ah

You never know de gangsta, me say, dem inna jungle
You never know de ya tical, me say, dem inna jungle
You never know shy fx, man, bigin (?up?) jungle
You never know uk apache bigin (?up?) jungle

Wha me tell 'em man rude bwoy
Watch it now man

Me a denote ah original madmah madmah mad nuttah
Original madamadamadamadamadamadamadamadah nuttah
Original madmah madmah mad nuttah
Original madamadamadamadamadamah

Me a denote ah
Me badder dan the bad bwoy (?played-ah?)
Lock up the ghetto
Where you a sky walker
Inna one score dem got me jump (?america?)

Badder than the (?brigitta?)
And the (?jumbo money?)
Badder then the (???)
And (?the gun data?)

(???)
You inquire bout-ah
I tell you Shy FX man
(?i cut short dem outtah?)
(???)

Wha me tell them rude bwoy
(???)

Nay-nee-nee-woh-oh, zig-ee-nay-nay-no-no-no
Nay-nee-nee-woh-oh, zig-ee-nay-nay-no-no-no
Nay-nee-nee-woh-oh, zig-ee-nay-nay-no-no-no
Ooh-yeah-eh, ooh-yeah-eh, ooh-noo-no-no-no-no-no

Bad boys inna london
Rude boys inna england
Bad boys inna jericho
Rude boys inna kingston

Watch-ah

You never know de gangsta, me say, dem inna jungle,ooh-wheh-eh-eh-yeah
You never know de ya tical, me say, dem inna jungle,ooh-wheh-eh-eh-yeah
You never know shy fx, man, bigin (?up?) jungle,ooh-wheh-eh-eh-yeah
You never know uk apache ruin the jungle, ooh-wheh-eh-eh-well

Me a denote ah original madmah madmah mad nuttah
Original madamadamadamadamadamadamadamadah nuttah
Original madmah madmah mad nuttah
Original madamadamadamadamadamah

Me a denote ah
Me badder dan the bad bwoy (?played-ah?)
Lock up the ghetto
Where you a sky walker
Inna one score dem got me jump (?america?)

Badder than the (?brigitta?)
And the (?jumbo money?)
Badder then the (???)
And (?the gun data?)

I tell you uk apache man
(?i cut short dem outta?)
Yes shy fx man
Pull up on your lighter

Whah me tell dem people
Hear me now rude bwoy man

I am a murderer
Kill up any deejay but the gunner

Yo hear me

Shy FX him is a murderer
A kill up any deejay but the gunner

Whah me tell dem
Hear me now rude bwoy man

Nay-nee-nee-woh-oh, dig-ee-nay-nay-no-no-no
Nay-nee-nee-woh-oh, zig-ee-nay-nay-no-no-no
Nay-nee-nee-woh-oh, zig-ee-nay-nay-no-no-no
Ooh-yeah-eh, ooh-yeah-eh, ooh-noo-no-no-no-no-no

Nay-nee-nee-woh-oh, zig-ee-nay-nay-no-no-no
Nay-nee-nee-woh-oh, zig-ee-nay-nay-no-no-no
Nay-nee-nee-woh-oh, zig-ee-nay-nay-no-no-no
Ooh-yeah-eh, ooh-yeah-eh, ooh-noo-no-no-no-no-no

[Reefer Rogue]

Woot.

[hash in hand]

i cant be arsed reading all the over-patriotic bullshit that gone on here so ill jus say what i think:
im not american, i dont believe in god either....but every1 thinking american is so great is bull......i meen sure its a relatively 'new' country so u may think look how good they are....think about the industrial age in britian....the british empire.....the romans ruling most of the globe......that all happened in the past sure...and they may not be as great now but the same WILL happen to the U.S. they will get to a point where they decline how it will happen no one knows but there will be a point when it isnt as great.....then think about it...does god love america then?? is there a god?? every one has their turn it jus happens that america is having theirs now.............and i think if anything god is pissed off with america......its only great due to masacars and black slavery and stepping on EVRYones toes on their way.....a war on 'terror' cant happen you cant fight an emotion/idea.....its just america getting greedy....

ahhh i feel better now.......

[TonyD]

Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.

[benagain]

blah blah blah blah blah. I'm american. I'm glad to be. blah blah blah blah blah. 'nuff said

[clock]

If there was a "god" this land would have long since shared the fate of "sodom and gomorrah" and the many others "god" has destroyed

[sbskico1]

This dude's whole idealogy is based on this concept of American behind 'ahead', and everyone else being 'behind', but I would bet my last stack of lesbian porn that he can't explain what he means by 'behind'. Dude's priorities are all fucked up anyway.


Behind=standard of living and to a lessor extent the ability to help others, space program, reseach and development and any other area where America exceeds (one example- China is 5000 years old, there's

"two China's" the modern coast with cities etc. and the other is the interior where tens, if not, hundreds of millions currently live w/o running water and flashing toilets!!! what's taking them so long?)

Giving money to protect the environment and buying books for poor kids are low priorities in your opinion?

Are Ghostoker and Oneironaut the same person?

WHY are so many people trying to come to the U.S.A?

When England(and every other country) ruled the world they thought the same as Americans do today.


SO what do you guys think of India where there's hungry people and all those cows? Do you think their belief that cows are more important the feeding childern are "behind" modern thinking? their standard of living suffers because cows come first.

While its true the world produces enough food to feed the world the real problem is transportion, and in some cases warlords who steal food to pay their solders.

I never said America is perfect we have our faults, but if people where given a chance to live in any country, many would choose the USA.

Didn't we save Europe(and the world) twice in the last 100 years? WWI and WWII...........

Time to pack a bowl.......

[sbskico1]

One thing we all have in common is the freedom to express our opinions...if we were in China or Cuba(and others) there would be a knock on the door.........

[graph]

China's almost the next superpower. Give it a century. Don't you read Time? Or do you just not believe it because it does not conform to your theories?

Being "behind" is a relative term. To the people living in the Middle East, the people in America could be behind, and that can be considered both true or not true. I mean, here in America, we value freedom, whereas they value a much more religious life.

They see us as Pagans, and are they wrong? Look at how much smut is online. We have so much porn spewing out of America, and you know where it comes from? The San Fernando Valley, where I live. Is porn wrong? I don't think it is, but they sure do. Does that mean they're wrong? Who's to say?

What's wierd is how you can trace an arc from every superpower that has existed, technically starting with Ur, to the United States, and guess what? China's next. That last paragraph really had nothing to do with this thread, but it's an interesting thing to think about, isn't it?

[sbskico1]

Are not most terms "relative"? I think when most of us write the terms we apply has a reference to "Western Civilization". Surly I would agree that many in the middlel east(and others) believe they have it better than everyone else, but I am not from the middle east. Which is good as my grandmother was half Jewish.


Never knew about the porn thing, do you know why most of it comes from San Fernando Valley? It is a sad fact that porn is the internets biggest money making venture.

What to you mean by "arc"

and Yes I read Time, its a great mag. and if you read what I have written many are questions and NOT statements. I never said "GOD loves America more" I ASKED if "GOD loves America more?" there's a difference. If there's is a GOD I don't think St. Michael checks passports at the "Pearly Gates" because if he does would all the illegal Mexcans get into Heaven?

[TonyD]

Your are wrong about their being enough food the average westerner would have to eat less than 1/4 of what they currently do if world food was shared equally and since the worlds population grows larger and space grows smaller it will become worse.

Also claiming you "Saved the world" is arrogance in the extreme if either Britain or Russia had not entered the war the world would have been conquered. Certainly America greatly contributed to the war a great portion of their economy and military might but the Russians paid the highest price in men.

You don't see Russians claiming "We saved Europe and the world aren't we the shit doesn't god love us?"

[TonyD]

Soviet Union Military dead: 10,600,000 Civilian Dead: 11,500,000
United Kingdom Military dead: 307,700 Civilian Dead: 61,700
United States Military dead: 407,300 Civilian Dead: 11,200

They took the hardest hits yet most of the credit still goes to the good ol' USA. If you take a look at those figures you'll see who really won WW2.

[sbskico1]

You answered your own question, The U.S. had the lowest number of dead I would say thats "winning"

FYI- we suppied Russia with lots of material, the U.S enabled the Russians to continue the war, so I guess we saved Russia too.

Plus I love Scotland, because its my land!

[Oneironaut]

Like it or not, the USSR saved our asses in World War II, just like we saved theirs. If Hitler hadn't been all tied up with that eastern front, I don't see any reason why he couldn't have successfully invaded the British Isles and had complete control of Europe, pretty much blocking any attempt at a non-nuclear solution to the war against Germany. And who knows, maybe without the huge waste of money, men and resources spent fighting Russia they could have gotten the bomb first.

[JunkYard]

China's almost the next superpower. Give it a century. Don't you read Time? Or do you just not believe it because it does not conform to your theories?

Being "behind" is a relative term. To the people living in the Middle East, the people in America could be behind, and that can be considered both true or not true. I mean, here in America, we value freedom, whereas they value a much more religious life.

They see us as Pagans, and are they wrong? Look at how much smut is online. We have so much porn spewing out of America, and you know where it comes from? The San Fernando Valley, where I live. Is porn wrong? I don't think it is, but they sure do. Does that mean they're wrong? Who's to say?

What's wierd is how you can trace an arc from every superpower that has existed, technically starting with Ur, to the United States, and guess what? China's next. That last paragraph really had nothing to do with this thread, but it's an interesting thing to think about, isn't it?

"China"

We'll bang heads with them boys someday, and guess what? We'll probably lose. I hate to even think about it....

Lucy...you got some splainin to do!

[sbskico1]

"China"

We'll bang heads with them boys someday, and guess what? We'll probably lose. I hate to even think about it....

Lucy...you got some splainin to do!


China only has two aircraft carriers...they should focus more on the poor people of the interior......... U.S. has 14

[oph616e]

sbskico1's attitude sums up just about everything anyone outside the bubble hates about America.

You know the god's honest truth is, if there was a war tomorrow, there is only one country I'd gladly pickup a gun to fight against...

I have travelled 3 years of my life in over 40countries and only 1 fills me with anger to the point of violence.

[Ripper]

Like it or not, the USSR saved our asses in World War II, just like we saved theirs. If Hitler hadn't been all tied up with that eastern front, I don't see any reason why he couldn't have successfully invaded the British Isles and had complete control of Europe, pretty much blocking any attempt at a non-nuclear solution to the war against Germany. And who knows, maybe without the huge waste of money, men and resources spent fighting Russia they could have gotten the bomb first.

To be truthfull we could have stopped the second war in its tracks had we been as intelligent as the socialist International Brigade who took on Franco in the Spanish civil war(in which the Fokker pilots got there traing helping Franco out) but Europe Britain especially turned a major blind eye to Fascism.

It could have been stopped if genusies like Orwell had been listened to....before it even started

DSS is under new management he is now Ripper

[Oneironaut]

To be truthfull we could have stopped the second war in its tracks had we been as intelligent as the socialist International Brigade who took on Franco in the Spanish civil war(in which the Fokker pilots got there traing helping Franco out) but Europe Britain especially turned a major blind eye to Fascism.

It could have been stopped if genusies like Orwell had been listened to....before it even started

DSS is under new management he is now Ripper
Indeed. Have you read "Homage to Catalonia"?

[Ripper]

Yeh and the Whole of Shoooting an Elephant.

He writes in length in Shooting an Elephant about trying to turn the troops from a disorganised rabel into a good fighting force after his training in Idia

it was a while back and some fucker stole my copy of Homage Id love ot read it again Is understanding of the political procesess off the time where way ahead of his time......

[Ripper]

Oh By Oneinaruat the links.....I'd been looking for something like that

[Swizzy89304]

Yes, God loves Amerika.

Youre delusional.

[Swizzy89304]

Didn't we save Europe(and the world) twice in the last 100 years? WWI and WWII.........

Erm, in WW2 Hitler came VERY, VERY close to dropping a nuke on San Fran and Washington. There was a program about it on the History or Discovery channel.
The Amerikans just got there a few days quicker with Nagasaki and Hiroshima.
So in reality, Hitler nearly dominated the world. Dropping the nuke on Japan more or less ended the war... If Hitler dropped a nuke on Amerika, that would more or less end the war aswell - and he would have complete world dominance.

[Swizzy89304]

According to media reports, Hitler in second world war was too confident of Nazi Germanyâ??s victory even in 1944-45 time frame when allies were closing in on him from all sides.

Nazi Germany was inches away from delivering intercontinental ballistic missiles with nuke warheads. Hitlerâ??s confidence (fortunately for the world) never materialized because though the prototypes were tested, they could not be deliverd in the battlefield on time due to lack of resources and time constraints.

According to an 88-year-old former Italian war correspondent, Hitler was preparing to unleash a nuclear bomb on the Allies in the last days of the Second World War. In his book ''Hitler's Secret Weapon'', Luigi Romersa claims to be the last living witness to an experimental detonation of a Nazi weapon he says was the world's first atom bomb.

Recently, historian Rainer Karlsch published a study suggesting that the Nazis conducted three nuclear weapons tests in 1944 and 1945, killing 700 people.

According to think tanks, what really happened is that the Nazi Germany had definitely invented the nukes and missiles but the technology could not be delivered in the battlefield on time. The efforts failed due to lack of time and resources.

Romersa claims that in September 1944, Benito Mussolini entrusted him with a secret mission. Italy's wartime leader wanted to know more after Hitler boasted to him of weapons capable of reversing the course of the war. Romersa, then a 27-year-old war correspondent for Corriere della Sera, was sent to Germany and he met Hitler in a bunker in Rastenburg, northern Poland. He was also given a tour around the Nazis'' secret weapons plant at Peenemunde, on the Baltic coast.

Romersa said from his home in Rome how he saw weapons "streets ahead of any conventional weapons the allies had at the time". He said: "They were developing a missile which they said they intended to launch from Europe across the Atlantic to bomb America."

Recent evidence from Russian archives has, however, shown one of the German scientists lodged a patent claim for a plutonium bomb as early as 1941. Romersa said: "Hitler and Nazi Germany had a very, very developed weapons programme and were certainly capable of creating an atomic bomb."