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sean140
03-21-2006, 09:28 PM
does marijuana give u cancer?????
DazedNblazed
03-21-2006, 09:30 PM
No.
Hollandica
03-21-2006, 09:30 PM
Its used as a medicine for some cancer treatments.
God v2.0
03-21-2006, 09:51 PM
yes it gives u brain cancer
TheAtomicPunk
03-21-2006, 10:00 PM
What? Marijuana deffinetley does not give you cancer.
God v2.0
03-21-2006, 10:14 PM
Yes hauh!!!!! YES IT DOES! Oh wait no it doesn't........thats right..........stupid people give you brain cancer........
pixel
03-21-2006, 10:16 PM
actually they have done many many tests and experiments on marijuana, and they have never found a correlation between marijuana and any type of cancer
just be careful with the lungs... go easy on em and your body will thank you
Frivolous248
03-21-2006, 10:37 PM
Yeah, I've always wondered if you can actually get lung cancer from smoking, cause I mean inhaling any type of smoke enough should give you lung cancer, shouldn't it? But then again weed is supposed to prevent the growth of cancer cells and stuff, so should that cancel it out or what?
NO cannabis can not give you cancer. Infact it can control cell division, so that means can untimatly stop you developing cancer, and for someone who already has cancer it can stop it spreading to other parts of the body.
Delta-9-Tetrahydrocannabinol only kills the "Glioma Cell" which is the only cell in the brain to cause brain tumours. The brain doesnt even use this cell, so if you smoke cannabis you are stopping yourself from getting a brain tumour.
Cannabis is 100% harmless, and you shouldnt belive anything you hear on TV on in the media in any way, because most of it is lies. Cannabis is the safest theraputic drug known to man. Smoke cannabis and you will not die.
Now i NEVER want to hear you ask that question again. Cannabis is good. Legalise it.
Jesse DeForest
03-21-2006, 11:40 PM
Say what you want to justify your habit, but I have a friend whose brother has cancer. Doctors say, all signs point to cannabis.
MullManiac
03-22-2006, 01:11 PM
Ok everyone listen!
The combustion of organic matter (burning plants) produces carsonagenics.
Carsonagenics cause cancer.
Therefor smoking weed gives will eventualy give you cancer.
But the chance of getting cancer increase with the amount you smoke, the action of other chemicals in the weed (there have been sugestions that THC counters cancer).
In my oppinion if you smoke a joint a day for 50 years the chance of getting cancer is low enough to justify you doing it. But do your research as new developments happen every day.
graph
03-22-2006, 01:17 PM
It's not just a suggestion that THC fights cancer. Actually, it's quite the opposite from your post, mullmaniac. Scientists say there's no evidence smoking weed will give you lung cancer. This doesn't mean that smoking has no side-effects. You can develop bronchitis and your chances of a heart attack increase five-fold, but you most likely will not get cancer. If you wanna be extra careful, use a bong, as this filters out more than 99% of tar.
http://www.webmd.com/content/article/23/1728_57309
I felt the need to edit and say that I didn't mean that in any negative way, mullmaniac.
MullManiac
03-22-2006, 01:33 PM
Well i like to think of myself as a scientist :p.
Your right that there is no evedance that smoking weed will give you cancer as there hasnt been any tests carried out as it is illigal! Trust me it will give you cancer if you smoke enough of it.
And bongs filter out about 30% of tars and carsonagenics (yes theres a big differance) but they filter out about 40% of the THC so over all there worse for you but not but much.
And yes it is just a suggestion that THC fights cancer, there is no real credible evidance for it so what else can it be but a suggestion?
I have no proof of it but i think that as far as cancer, cigs are just as dangerous as weed, but cigs are physicly addictive which makes them (in my oppinion) a lot worse.
As for that bronchitis thing, that is true as when you smoke the mucus lineing of you lungs surrounds and expels the tars leaveing the lungs open for attack thus resulting in bronchitis and other such infections.
graph
03-22-2006, 01:41 PM
it's not illegal to high grade scientists. Go to the url I posted. You may think of yourself as a scientist but "no offense" real scientists, the one with degrees, have actually studied these things. There IS credible evidence. You simply have to research.
By the way, THC isn't water soluble. However, this subject is an example of why no good evidence can be found. The FDA says water pipes filter 99% of tar out of niccotine, but we can't test it for marijuana, now can we?
graph
03-22-2006, 01:45 PM
CORRECTION. I guess even I make mistakes! Just kidding.
You're right about the filtering thing. I'm still not jumping on board and saying it filters 40% of THC, but it doesn't work very well at filtering out tar and carcinogens.
Theduderino
03-22-2006, 01:52 PM
does marijuana give u cancer?????
No question is stupid. From study in Psychology, there is no evidence that cannabis is the cause of cancer. Also keep this in mind, if the cause of cancer is related to smoke itself, one does not smoke cannabis as much as one smokes cigs. What I mean is, you would have to smoke about two packs worth of cannabis a day in order to be worried and that is basically impossible since that would be smoking almost a quarter of an ounce a day. Not many can afford that and you would fall asleep before you could even smoke about half that much. But if you look in the textbooks - the ones that show the truth of things - they actually still say under investigation, lol. They just don't want to admit the truth of it since it's illegal.
The Duderino
Kryzco
03-22-2006, 01:59 PM
Well I'm not gonna say yes or no on this one, but I've been reading around and theres been a lot more research and more and more scientists are saying it doesn't
I personally believe smoking anything has a chance of you getting cancer, especially if you do it all the time, but I agree that cigs are worse (even though I smoke) because they are physically addictive and ultimately caused a lot of health problems
ethsfreshman
03-22-2006, 02:04 PM
Bongs filter between 50 and 90 percent of tar, 70 and 90 percent of carcinogens.
Cancer is caused by abnormal cell division, and that can be caused by 2 things
1: constant irritation
2: high presense of carcingoneic material
Now, smokers (cigarettes) are constantly smoking (irritation) and taking in lotsa carcinogenic material
Weed smokers tak in less smoke, less often, and there is less carcinogenic material.
tobacco companies add chemicals into their product.
weed is all natural. no additives
thus
weed=safer than tobacco
Ergo (X equals set amount)
tobacco = more smoke taken in, more carcinogenic material per X amount taken in.
Weed=Less smoke taken in, less carcinogenic material per X taken
X Weed = less harmful than X tobacco
Normally, X Tobacco is taken 12+ times daily
Normally, X Weed is taken 1-3 per day, depending on frequency of use .
Tobacco is used daily, and is also used very frequently per day.
Weed is used very infrequently per day, and usually not every day.
Tobacco = more frequent, more damage.
Weed is therefore better for you than tobacco
Tobacco takes years of smoking to get cancer (ten +)
you smoke about 1/5th of the amount of weed than most do tobacco
tobacco = 5x weed = X
so, 50 years of weed smoking will get you cancer. maybe.
So, In conclusion, no, weed will prbably not give your cancer :)
alchemiser
03-22-2006, 02:15 PM
Most things in life will give you cancer, weed is wonderful in that it cures cancer :thumbsup:
Seeing some of the lies about cannabis being posted as fact on here leaves me very :confused:
graph
03-22-2006, 02:21 PM
you probably know more than I do. I just got my answers from webmd.com. Anyways, if whatever I said is wrong please post the correct info. I don't wanna spread bad information.
Theduderino
03-22-2006, 02:26 PM
Well, to justify that cannabis isn't bad for you let me tell you this:
A friend of mine had asthma, probably the worst case of it. After he started smoking cannabis he hasn't had any asthma attack since. Now, after about 7 years, he went to the doctor for the usual checkup and they found that he had no case of asthma, as if it never existed in the firstplace. Oh btw, he also hasn't had the asthma medicine for 7 years and before that it was almost a daily thing.
The Duderino
ethsfreshman
03-22-2006, 02:35 PM
Right...
my moms a doctor, so i know a little about these things ;)
yeah, uh, pot is not bad for you at all. if you smoked it every day, for 50 years, you might get cancer, but thats if you smoke joints. if you use a bong, it would mean you would only get 5 percentof the damaging stuff, so you would have to smoke for 1000 years daily with a bong :)
Kryzco
03-22-2006, 04:00 PM
sweet!
I only use bongs anyways
but I smoke cigs so I'm still gonna die
DAMMIT!
Theduderino
03-22-2006, 04:19 PM
sweet!
I only use bongs anyways
but I smoke cigs so I'm still gonna die
DAMMIT!
Better stop the cigs while you're ahead. Then you won't die :thumbsup: .
graph
03-22-2006, 04:22 PM
who buys these things for you?
Theduderino
03-22-2006, 04:28 PM
who buys these things for you?
Buys what things?
graph
03-22-2006, 04:38 PM
Sorry, I have absolutely no idea why I posted that.
Theduderino
03-22-2006, 04:40 PM
lol
orangeman
03-22-2006, 04:42 PM
If marijuana can be used to help glaucoma and used for medical purposes I dont really think marijuana causing cancer is reasonable.
show7stopper
03-22-2006, 05:05 PM
everything has the potential to give you cancer i just learned in my chem class that living in a wooden cabin will put radiation in your body just an insignificant amount but when adding things like smoking it increases your chance
MullManiac
03-23-2006, 08:19 AM
it's not illegal to high grade scientists. Go to the url I posted. You may think of yourself as a scientist but "no offense" real scientists, the one with degrees, have actually studied these things. There IS credible evidence. You simply have to research.
By the way, THC isn't water soluble. However, this subject is an example of why no good evidence can be found. The FDA says water pipes filter 99% of tar out of niccotine, but we can't test it for marijuana, now can we?
Give me one more year and i'll have my degree.
And yes sadly it is still illegal for scientists to conduct these type of tests with weed, they can access it but they cant actualy test it for anything with out govenment approvel, also no other country has the funds to conduct proper tests apart from the US and sadly there one of the only countries with this policy.
By the way the title of that page u gave me is 'Marijuana Unlikely to Cause Head, Neck, or Lung Cancer' Which in the scientific world means nothing, yes it is unlikely, i've already said this.
Dont you think if it was proved that THC could cure cancer that it would be used in the treatment of cancer?
i'm not sure about this at all and have no proof but i cant help but think that all this stuff about weed being harmless and even benifitial for you was just made up by a group of stoners and the theory has got way out of hand.
and to most of you out there it's very hipocritical of you to not believe the hundreds of people that say smoking weed is bad for you but as soon as one person says it's good for you it has to be true.
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