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Ziggy Stardust
03-21-2006, 03:05 PM
HELP ME GK PLEASEEEE!!!
my grow has been execellent but now i got these spots please help! the dark single leaf seem to be jumping from leaf to leaf (non contact)

im in my last week of veg and am using Dutch Masters Advance along with their foliar program. some of the older fan leaves appear to be drooping but my lateral stems are very stout and able to support their new growth easily. the plants are growing like no tomrrow lush and very thick im using 10 gallon resev. (40 lts - constant drip) and just got my PH meter - befor tho my water PH was at 7.5 (thats the norm in LA) but i changed it at least every 5-6 days now that i have my meter ive got my PH down to like 5.9 all my parameters are per DM specs but that spotting is flippin me out

im trying s 1/3 dose of their potash product now thinking thats the problem. my co op is depending on me

Jdog7000
03-21-2006, 03:15 PM
Did you flush your soil?Thats the first thing you shoud have done.
Thats a big ph flux....maybe that did it.
My question for you is...you are growing that for medicine and you just got a ph meter? Can you tell me what co-op ,so I don't go there?
I'm not trying to dog you...just the co-op.If they are hiring newbie's to grow there med's,I'd like to not waist my money. Sorry if I sound like a dick,I just don't like ppl taking advantage of sick ppl.(the co-op)

Garden Knowm
03-21-2006, 05:19 PM
Hey Ziggy...
can I see the entire plant....

How is your NEW growth... at the top of the plant?

Dogg has a great point... PH fluxuation can make plants act a bit funny...

Are any of your stems red?

You are growing Hydro...? You should consider a one day flush.. but I would reallylike to see the entire plant..

my gut says it is nothing to worry about..

: )

Ziggy Stardust
03-22-2006, 12:55 AM
thank you kind knowm your quick response is appreciated.

growth at the top is as excellent im tying down and my big female is showing lotsa new sprouts but the color is kinda off as its lighter green then the rest of the plant as is the texture of the leaves - more jagged and feel like thier actually drying out BUT its only inna few spots and the shape is changing also instead of standing stright out they are now appearing more spiderlike and not as thick as befor. LOL please dont ask about the seed as far as i know its all mexican. not special but saved for the size of the spears and almost seedless.

when i spotted the problem i did as was suggesteed and started flushing (3 days just topping off with H2O and adj PH to 6.2) thing was i was convinced it was a P problem and after flushing i did start preflower routine per DM specs their "Advanced" food with the root additives (Zone) and their "Potash" additive nutri boost was also added (1.25 ml per 4 ltrs) PPM=1000 (the water is at 250 alone) total = 1250 and within DM specs)

DM also has a new foliar program used in conjunction with thier feeding program even that was cut back 25%

and yes i do have some red stems but not as a rule and not on all plants the redness appears on the stems tto the leaves and not the main stalk

LOL and yes this is my 1st Hydro grow but ive done like 10 outdoor grows (lol out there all ya do is water a few times a week and camp out sos no one steals em)

and sos ya know no one "hires me" i DONATE a part of everything i grow to others who cant afford to spend big $$. the CO OP i use also DONATES to those who show they has a legitimate need

ill try to get a better pic

again many thanks

Garden Knowm
03-22-2006, 01:09 AM
Ziggy.. it sounds like you are handlig your business.. everything sounds great...

the picture is hard to see.. looks like you shot it through some window blinds.. ahhaahha

are the leaves curling up on the sides....


more pics..

: )

Ziggy Stardust
03-22-2006, 03:17 AM
The leaves are curling up on the sides a bit. For some reason, I can't seem to get a clear picture with my lights turned on. After lights out tonight I'll post more pics.

They seem to be a _little_ dry, and are curling upwards.

Garden Knowm
03-22-2006, 03:22 AM
http://www.marijuana-seeds.net/Thanks-ThankYou.htm

ziggy have you looked here?

Something is wrong with your leaves... definitley... i dont like it..
needs to be addressed... more pictures...


I would drain the reservoir completely... and just use water ph 6.0-6.8
I would also check the PPM of your tap water...

don't worry this case will be solved and there will be a happy ending..

you are a good PARENT!!

i look forward to the pictures

: )

Jdog7000
03-22-2006, 01:01 PM
I was clearly wrong...and I'm sorry.I get moody...I got the wrong Idea...truse?
I actually really admire what your doing.I totally got the wrong idea bro.I guess I'm so used to ppl being selfish and dishonest.It's kinda sad really.
I apologize...I don't know what got into me.(xanax hadn't kicked in yet?)

Ziggy Stardust
03-22-2006, 03:35 PM
Knowm

heres the new pic ive reviewed the site you suggested and its great BUT the prob i have aint there as you can see . im thinking its the folair prog but not too sure will start flushing again maybe i can start over . present my PH is at 6.0 ill up it to 6.8 per your suggestion will update you this PM 100 ZULU (GMT) LOL

Garden Knowm
03-23-2006, 05:20 AM
I was clearly wrong...and I'm sorry.I get moody...I got the wrong Idea...truse?
I actually really admire what your doing.I totally got the wrong idea bro.I guess I'm so used to ppl being selfish and dishonest.It's kinda sad really.
I apologize...I don't know what got into me.(xanax hadn't kicked in yet?)


NICE!!!!!!!!!!

See you Friday!!!!!
I will call you Thursday!!!!

Ziggy Stardust
03-23-2006, 03:56 PM
PS

can u please show me what heat stress looks like??

Ziggy Stardust
03-24-2006, 03:14 AM
yeahhhh no more spotsand after installing my exhaust fan the leaves are smoothing out and supplel again and after upping the PH to 6.8 and LOWERING the PPM to 1000 from 1250 my hunies perked right up. but what i think is strange is that DM says that the Ph should be even LOWER than what i had it at. they suggest 5.2 to 5.8 maybe its because the seed i used was mex (that shit can grow in a rock crag ya know)?
either way im all better now thank you so much for the help GK i am in your debt

Ziggy

and for all those who are intrested Dutch Masters program is excellent they have 3 seperate Nuets and the tank additives are well constructed the foliar prog is outstanding (just be careful and start at 1/2 stregnth until you see whats up) you can see results after the very 1st application. its a bit $$ the entire program ran about 4 bills but its enough tp get thru several crops

Garden Knowm
03-26-2006, 07:40 AM
ziggy...
your leaves will point up... and look very very healthy and firm if the temperature gets HOT!!!!!!!!

: )

What does ziggy look like when he is stressed?

LOL

Ziggy Stardust
03-26-2006, 03:06 PM
wheeee..... when Zigman is heat stressed he usually looks lika wino tourist floating down the Colorado river inna innertube for both him and his sixer!!

LOL all kidding aside did u give some thought to how DM can get the PH that low w/o lighting up thier plants and what about the PPM issue?

see i live in LA and the H2O is very hard here the PPM is at like 210-250.

now DM suggests their solution be mixed to 1000-1250 PPM sooo just where does that figure fit in? i mean should i mix to 1250 inclusive if the water factor or subtract the H2O count? i.e. mix entire soulution to 1250 or ADD the 210-250 H2O factor and bring it up to the 1250 # adding the 210-250 THEN bringing it up to 1400-1450?

turtle420
03-26-2006, 03:32 PM
If I'm not mistaken,

adding the 210-250 THEN bringing it up to 1400-1450?
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Or, when possible, buy a filter... preferrably, a Reverse Osmosis (RO) filter. At the very least, a Brita filter of those... :)

Ziggy Stardust
03-27-2006, 02:59 AM
ok!..... i get that now add total...nowwwwww....if you would please take a look at this top i plucked and tell me if you can is it male or female?

this plants is really starting to concern me ....its growing like X2 times faster and getting taller by the day its actually encroaching on my fat round female and im wondering .....now (at least in my eye) i see with i think is male flowers. if someone can confirm i can whip out my reverse and knock this down right now...

Garden Knowm
03-28-2006, 10:22 PM
Ziggy,
If you are growing in soil, you PPM from the tap is fine..
If you are growing Hydro or Aero... then you definitley need a water purifier.. plant wont last more than a month...

: )