Survival

[psychocat]

I am very confident that with the knowledge I have that if the world fell into total chaos tomorow I would survive and thrive, how do you think you would fare?

[C4nn4Bliss]

did you not read my reply to the fuck the police one? you sound way over confident and your plan has holes in it

say it happened right now, what would you do?????

[C4nn4Bliss]

im movin my posts over here, that police one might get deleted.....



your forgetting that in this scenario of total chaos it would most likely come unexpected and those who it blindsided would be stunned, the perfect time for someone like me to rape and pillage what goods they have, first would be to hit gun stores, id hit a big five first to get strapped and then use those weapons to knock off another gun store. Next would be pharamices, next to weapons antibiotics would be the most valueable thing you could have in your possession. After that you would want to knock off a gas station and load a truck full of containers of gas, if this wasnt possible youd want to syphon gas outta cars, after that id rob the best cars for the situation and head off to an pre-determined outpost to get settled and plan out what happens next. I dont see how you would want to do this on your own at all, if you didnt do things like this you would be one of the ones that wouldnt survive long so have fun dying by yourself

[C4nn4Bliss]

you sound like you have over confidence in yourself, you think you would stand up against a militia or any formed group if you ran into one? You dont think it would be give us your shit or get your head blown off??? haha i think youd be killed before you knew it. During a time like that you want to be in numbers,why?, because everyone else will be and those who arent will be the first to get killed because if you arent with us you are against us. It would all depend on where you are when it happens and what exactly happens to kick start it. If they dropped an A-bomb youd be saying is that all you fuckin got while the radiation sterilzes you and gives you radiation posioning instead of being smart and runnin to a safe area, real badass. Food wouldnt be a problem for awhile because of all the fuckin food we got here, before it ran out i would have started growing my own food. I would start a group and i guarentee you the group would sound a SHITLOAD better at the time then being by yourself especially when the group has their own weapons for everyone right off the bat, im prepared for this shit so i dunno who you think your talkin to man. You go rely on yourself and you can go die by yoursel...

[psychocat]

I already answered this before posting the link to here.

What do you think everyone else would be doing while you're raiding the stores? How in a city gone wild do you expect to be able to transport anything without it being attacked? If it's a free for all theres only one you can rely on that's yourself.I have no problem in the wild as I can forrage and hunt and will survive happily away from the carnage of the populated areas.
How many "friends" do you have who would survive long enough to form a group? How many of them could you trust if it came down to the raw edge?
Only someone not confident in themselves would require the "safety" (?????) of a group .

[C4nn4Bliss]

i live in a rich area, you know it would blindside those people, people would be rushing to their familes and trying to find out news about whats happening. First day/weeks it would panic, terror, confusion. Yes their would be people just like me but not too many in my area. My area is perfect for this situation, the majority of people would be scared shitless and stunned like someone threw a flashbang at them, in which that time is when the level headed people like myself and the people who i have planned this with will begin our looting/preperation phase. You sound like your just gonna run into the woods and become a mountain man, thats cool man you do that shit but i dont know if you would last any longer than i would. You have to be confident in yourself yes but you also have to have a handful of people that you trust your life with and have confidence in them too, which i have. Its all circumstantial and depends on where you live and how it happens, like i said before. In my area i would be able to get the edge on everyone and something like that would be priceless in those times. This is all just something that people like me and you have simulated in our heads and nobody can be 100% that things would go the way they planned cause its chaos of course but to have a solid plan and backups is as prepared as you can be. I dont live in a big city i live in the suburbs, and i have to say with the people here, my plan would be as perfect as you could get planning wise. I could talk for hours on the details but i dont want to type all that out or give away secrets

[C4nn4Bliss]

The only problem would be the police around here, they are the ones with the armories to begin with, it would be the biggest obstacle for awhile, they would be trying to stop people like me

[psychocat]

Each to their own but like I said it's when it comes down to the wire that you have to be 100% certain of the man at your back.The man who saves your life when theres plenty, may well be the one putting a bullet in your back if times get a little too rough.
The problem for inner cities is that the gangs would probably be in the strongest position at first but as things got tougher then they would turn on each other.Suburbs would face a different set of problems and I believe the only way is to head away from the main centres of population.

[C4nn4Bliss]

I wouldnt want to be the one that runs into the woods, what happens if you get ill? you gonna run back out to the city by yourself and try to jack the antibiotics from me??? You gotta realize the value of possesions would change drastically. Weapons would hold the most value as they would be the law and your best friend. Antibiotics would be second being that nobody would be seeing doctors anymore and anyone killed would be left to rot where they died, animals would feed on these rotted infected bodies spreading infections everywhere eventually to the animals in your wooden haven.

[Kid Dynamite]

surely it would be better if there werent any weapons at all? Cos the no-one would be able to kill each other over who got the worlds last twinkie or whatever.

[JunkYard]

I'll head for the hills, and live off the land. Build a little hut, and grow corn, and shit!

I have a few weapons, but I'd have to knock off a gun shop for additional ammo. The bears can be a problem in the wild, so...

Not so worried about people, as I won't be around them.

Remember: "A country boy CAN survive!" ;)

[mike001]

ok c4 let's see your plan. step by step..

1. turn off tv.

2. put out joint.

3. put on pants.

4. and so on if you get my drift.

[C4nn4Bliss]

lol yeah thats my plan.... because you know me so well and i always have a joint in my mouth and am laying around doing jackshit all the time with my pants off watching tv, shut the fuck up if you dont have anything more intelligent than that to say....

why dont you go back and read slowly whatd i do ya jackass

sounds like youd be the one caught with your pants down

[C4nn4Bliss]

hmm live and let live...yeah those are some wise words right there since that works so well these days.... i like kill and let god sort them out better

[higher4hockey]

i would befriend the amish

[del...]

for real-life scenario's and hands-on survival schooling, check out the annual rainbow gatherings. this year's gather will be in southwestern colorado area (site has not been announced yet but telluride area is more than likely) and there 100's people who live in the woods year-round on hand to show others how to build everything from shelters to sanitary shitters...along with ovens made from the earth dug at the campsite and water from our hand-dug springs/water system! details for this years gather (june 15th +/- to july 7th +/-) will be announced here as they pop up...

it's a good way to hook up with what's happening with the off-the-grid people and new & old-time hippies...

[C4nn4Bliss]

thanks for the info, gave me something to respect the hippies for!!

[del...]

there are anywhere between 10-25,000 people at the gatherings and with this year's gather being held in such a central location, i would expect 25,000+ over the 3-4 weeks plus a few thousand always stay late (well into august) for clean-up...

[HiddenBeauty]

I'll head for the hills, and live off the land. Build a little hut, and grow corn, and shit!

I have a few weapons, but I'd have to knock off a gun shop for additional ammo. The bears can be a problem in the wild, so...

Not so worried about people, as I won't be around them.

Remember: "A country boy CAN survive!" ;)


That sounds like a damn good plan to me and I would be there if I could have a gentle Ben as a pet :D

[imagoober]

ill be just fine thank you!:D

[SmokeyPotter]

I wouldn't be worried as much about guns as I would be procurring knives and other blades... you see, the thing about these hypothetical apocalyptic situations is that sooner or later you're going to run out of ammunition.

[JunkYard]

That sounds like a damn good plan to me and I would be there if I could have a gentle Ben as a pet :D

Hey, I wouldn't mind a little company, lol!

[psychocat]

I wouldn't be worried as much about guns as I would be procurring knives and other blades... you see, the thing about these hypothetical apocalyptic situations is that sooner or later you're going to run out of ammunition.

I agree

I believe that the secret to staying alive is being as mobile as possible and that doesn't work with half a ton of ammo to cart everywhere you go.The problem with the log cabin and crops scenario is simple ,sooner or later you would have to defend it against marauders and what happens if all your hard work growing the stuff comes to nothing because of some blight on your crops? I know the value of a good blade and just like you that would be high on my list of must haves, a gun is only any use if you have the ammo and like you say sooner or later it's going to run out.

[Az.]

I don't think I would deal with it very well to be perfectly honest.....however if I had time to prepare...lol...nah I really have no idea what I would do....I would probably try and find my family.....i would prefere to die with them than alone...even though I guess we all die alone anyway....but yeah....

I really have no idea what I would do....under pressure I can normally think wuite quickly...so I don't think I would be tooo bad....but I would deffonatly want my mate with me....and my g/f.....lol

[del...]

and don't forget...you'll need at least 6 months worth of food as it takes time to bring in a crop and we won't be able to rely on game alone as their populations too will be severely depleted, if not cut down by whatever catastrophe that befalls the world, then by being over-hunted. it all depends on what the gods have in mind for this little rock we live on...

[king kong bong]

im countin the days.......

[da haze meister]

I agree

I believe that the secret to staying alive is being as mobile as possible and that doesn't work with half a ton of ammo to cart everywhere you go.The problem with the log cabin and crops scenario is simple ,sooner or later you would have to defend it against marauders and what happens if all your hard work growing the stuff comes to nothing because of some blight on your crops? I know the value of a good blade and just like you that would be high on my list of must haves, a gun is only any use if you have the ammo and like you say sooner or later it's going to run out.
you could easily fit over 3000 rounds for a pistol in a bookbag.

[C4nn4Bliss]

you could easily fit over 3000 rounds for a pistol in a bookbag.


haha a 15 year old talkin bout carryin 3000 pistol rounds in a bookbag, go figure out how much thatd weigh dude

[C4nn4Bliss]

for whoever thinks blades are gonna save you youll be dead sooner than you think,thats totally unrealistic because someone will always have a gun and youll be the jackass with a blade haha, id think you wouldnt live long enough to see ammuntion supplies run out, i can name 10 gun stores just in a 10-20 mile radius of where i live. Thats just gun stores, there are manufacturing plants and police armorys and numerous other places for acquiring ammo. America is the place to be if you want guns/ammunition my good friend. IF only they were on every corner like starbucks

Carrying around ammo isnt practical, which is why youd need an outpost/safehouse/cache or what have you to restock resupply. I still havent seen a plan better than mine yet.

Del, you dont think you could acquire a 6 month food supply when you are admist chaos and are fending for your life??? I can say it would interesting!


Not to mention bush would probably try and put a curfew out and police/national guard/army would be patrolling stopping people like me

Closest thing you could compare what i would be doing to is the insurgents in iraq, sorry but yeah, id be an insurgent not nessicarily with the same agenda

Overall id have to say the average person couldnt comment accurately on this topic because your mentality right now is so far off from the mentality you would need to survive in a chaotic situation that you couldnt even comprehend it even though you say you could. I for one have had this play out in my head and in my dreams so many times that if it happen i would take it with stride and be calm about it, also helps not really giving a rats ass about your life and if you die for i am a strong believer in Fate. I hear people sayin theyd be ok but i dont hear why theyd be ok, i guarentee you if you go running in to the woods or hills or whatever the majority of you will die miserabely

[God v2.0]

Dude i posted the EXACT same thing a while back.

Anyways my plan would be to FIRST steal a bunch of trucks w/ flatbeds, then get weapons then just fill up the trucks at a local walmart, walgreens warehouse etc. With a few chainsaws u can head to a forest area and build an encampment within a few days then you start growing your own food. Basically regress into a survival mode which would suck entertainment wise...but i have to say there would be one last stop on my way outta town and that would be: My dealers house hahahah!!!

[C4nn4Bliss]

yea no shit man i would hit any dealer i ever went to, smoke him and take his shit, plus the pharmacies would have useful items like painkillers and benzos because you know you aint gonna sleep without some help in a time like that and being sleep deprived is gonna get you killed as easily as taking a drug

[God v2.0]

Ok and just to let you know, antibiotics are killing you. Seriously, im not joking, you are only weakening yourself by taking them because its doing the job of your immune system, so far i havent died and ive only taken Amoxicillin once to kill some strep throat that i had, but if your body can fight off a bacteria or a virus then it becomes stronger, and much more resistant to that type of sickness. My ideal life is as close to natural as possible (which isnt even near 100%).

[C4nn4Bliss]

i havent taken an antibiotic for 5 years, i agree with you but they arent killing you its more just like taking the easy way out in a sense, my friends around me wonder why i never catch what they have when they are always goin to the doctor at the first sign of being sick, go figure

in the chaos situation youd need them in some cases, plus theyd have alot of value to barter with

[C4nn4Bliss]

you really think you wanna let your fucked up gun wound heal without taking some antibiotics? your fuckin nuts! youll lose your arm!

[del...]

all i'm saying is it's far easier to gather up neccessities before they become needed...not to mention safer! a few boxes of canned and dry food would cover one for many months. and you'll also have to save room for the books that'll be needed to restart civilization...yup, food to get me by, seeds for the future and books to put things back together again...that's my list!

well, and my firearms of course for any real-life moderating that may need to be done...

[da haze meister]

haha a 15 year old talkin bout carryin 3000 pistol rounds in a bookbag, go figure out how much thatd weigh dude
about 10 kilograms.

[graph]

10 kilograms would break your back if you carried it around for too long. There was a study about that some time ago.

As for me, I'd try to round up a small group of people, perhaps like 5 or 6, with at least one woman that is able to give birth, to continue life. I'd blow up gas stations, destroy buildings, clog irrigation systems, just go crazy. After about a month of this, if I'm still alive, I'd make my way out to bumblescum nebraska or somewhere without many people, make a farm, and kill whoever tried to oppose me. Actually, I'd probably kill whoever stepped foot on my land. I'd erect giant crosses and crucify people on them, as a warning to others. I agree, firearms are incredibly necessary, but it would be so satisfying to disembowel someone who opposed you. Plus, there's something so impersonal about killing a man with a gun.

I'm serious, too. This is my plan.

[da haze meister]

10 kilograms would break your back if you carried it around for too long. There was a study about that some time ago.

As for me, I'd try to round up a small group of people, perhaps like 5 or 6, with at least one woman that is able to give birth, to continue life. I'd blow up gas stations, destroy buildings, clog irrigation systems, just go crazy. After about a month of this, if I'm still alive, I'd make my way out to bumblescum nebraska or somewhere without many people, make a farm, and kill whoever tried to oppose me. Actually, I'd probably kill whoever stepped foot on my land. I'd erect giant crosses and crucify people on them, as a warning to others. I agree, firearms are incredibly necessary, but it would be so satisfying to disembowel someone who opposed you. Plus, there's something so impersonal about killing a man with a gun.

I'm serious, too. This is my plan.
even 1000 rounds could hold someone out for a good long time. also, there are cars and bikes. i carry a ten kilo bag all the time to and from school. but i do lift weights. my bag weighed in on the wrestling school at about 36 lbs. that is like 16 kilos.

[C4nn4Bliss]

and the glorious thing about it graph is you could do exactly that!!!!!! not that i would go that far but still the beauty of it is that it wouldnt take much to throw out civilization back into the middle ages!! hahaha fuckin tickles me in the right spot!

man this thread is just making me think about it more and drool at the mouth even more, goddamnit!!!

I got a feeling a terrorist attack might knock american society off its shitty little peg stilts that it stands upon.

[C4nn4Bliss]

even 1000 rounds could hold someone out for a good long time. also, there are cars and bikes. i carry a ten kilo bag all the time to and from school. but i do lift weights. my bag weighed in on the wrestling school at about 36 lbs. that is like 16 kilos.

you may be right but the point is kid that its not convienent in the situation we are talking about, plus you wouldnt just be carrying around ammunition

[C4nn4Bliss]

i just did a little math and 3000 rounds of 5.56 would weigh roughly 90 lbs and thats not including the clips

howd you get 10 kilos for pistol rounds???????????

[Das Boot]

10 kilograms would break your back if you carried it around for too long. There was a study about that some time ago.

As for me, I'd try to round up a small group of people, perhaps like 5 or 6, with at least one woman that is able to give birth, to continue life. I'd blow up gas stations, destroy buildings, clog irrigation systems, just go crazy. After about a month of this, if I'm still alive, I'd make my way out to bumblescum nebraska or somewhere without many people, make a farm,

Who is going to put out the fires you start? The Firemen? The farm land you are hoping to retreat to would burn.

[Das Boot]

surely it would be better if there werent any weapons at all? Cos the no-one would be able to kill each other over who got the worlds last twinkie or whatever.

It would suck ass if there were no guns. The only people who would survive would be giant men who could swing giant sticks. Not unlike myself. I would be a GOD!

Anyone notice that not one person has voted for the "help mummy" choice. We all think were such badasses it's kind of sad.

[da haze meister]

i just did a little math and 3000 rounds of 5.56 would weigh roughly 90 lbs and thats not including the clips

howd you get 10 kilos for pistol rounds???????????
'twas a rough estimate. i was high. even 1000 rounds is managable. 30 pounds. 33 clips.

[C4nn4Bliss]

pretty sure he wasnt talking about demolishing the area he planned to settle in he was talking about cities where he raped and pilaged most likely.

[Das Boot]

The wind catches the fire and takes it wherever it wants to. Besides he's not the only idiot whos going to start a fire.

Best to head to the high seas and become a super tough Harley Davidson Biker Pirate.

[C4nn4Bliss]

'twas a rough estimate. i was high. even 1000 rounds is managable. 30 pounds. 33 clips.


you know a 5.56 nato round clip weighs about a lb, so your talkin 63 lbs there that you wanna take on a bike?? thats unrealistic under these circumstances

posting stuff like that and blaming it on being high is just ludacris, dont do that shit, your ruining your credibility here

[C4nn4Bliss]

i can be high and still manage to think straight, type straight, and act straight and not talk outta my ass

tis a good skill to have, learn it

[GluteusMaximus]

It would appear you look forward to killing innocent people in the name of survival. Steal and destroy those things that can't help or hurt you. Defend property that you claim as your own from those who are just like you. Grow food and pretend you can protect that crop somehow with guns. Stockpile gasoline which goes bad with time. Live in fear of those you teamed up with knowing they are just like you, able to pop a cap in your ass while you sleep.

If you had an army tank loaded to the gills with fuel and ammo. A whole division of armed green berets. Enough canned goods to stay alive for years and a place capable of housing you and your soldiers. You still wouldn't survive a year. That scenario of total chaos is flawed from the start. You make too many assumptions that these things which you depend on to survive is something accessable after/during this period of "total chaos". You also assume you're the only few left capable of massing a formal attack. If you had all I described above, you still couldn't ward off an army of civilians armed with shovels. Granted you will be able to kill many, but just as castles were seized over time, it's just a matter of time till you get starved out, bombed from above (just as cars still operate, so do military planes), or simply overrun by overwhelming odds.

Is this somehow better than dying? Life ain't worth shit if you've got to live like that.

just my opinion.

GM

[Das Boot]

You have an odd signature for a gun crazy maniac. Dammit someone made a post. I'm speaking to the gentlemen who would prefer to be carried by six rather than judged by twelve.

[SmokeyPotter]

Don't blame the kid, blame the society which fosters unrealistic capabilties in him! hehe....

but yeah... if I came down to it, I'd wager that close to, if not everybody in this thread would be completely fucked.

[C4nn4Bliss]

It would appear you look forward to killing innocent people in the name of survival. Steal and destroy those things that can't help or hurt you. Defend property that you claim as your own from those who are just like you. Grow food and pretend you can protect that crop somehow with guns. Stockpile gasoline which goes bad with time. Live in fear of those you teamed up with knowing they are just like you, able to pop a cap in your ass while you sleep.

If you had an army tank loaded to the gills with fuel and ammo. A whole division of armed green berets. Enough canned goods to stay alive for years and a place capable of housing you and your soldiers. You still wouldn't survive a year. That scenario of total chaos is flawed from the start. You make too many assumptions that these things which you depend on to survive is something accessable after/during this period of "total chaos". You also assume you're the only few left capable of massing a formal attack. If you had all I described above, you still couldn't ward off an army of civilians armed with shovels. Granted you will be able to kill many, but just as castles were seized over time, it's just a matter of time till you get starved out, bombed from above (just as cars still operate, so do military planes), or simply overrun by overwhelming odds.

Is this somehow better than dying? Life ain't worth shit if you've got to live like that.

just my opinion.

GM

Nobody can back up what they say about this with any proof and neither can you bud so please dont barge in talkin like you know anything either, we all dont know exactly, this is all hypothetical. Im curious as to why you dont think someone could survive with less than your armored tank and platoons of soldiers that sounds just ridiculous to me. If this widespread chaos broke out for whatever reason you think the government could control it all??especially with their dicks in the middle east when it happens?? THEY CANT EVEN HANDLE SOME FUCKIN TOWELHEAD INSURGENTS IN IRAQ! Give me a break, youd rather put a round in your head than live this scenario out???? I call bullshit! You can only speak for yourself you cannot speak for me or others on here so shut it about that one. I for one live day by day hating what america has become and how everyone likes to pretend we arent getting fucked by our oh so wonderful government, ya you probably will come back at me wiht they do this they do that, thats what they want you to focus on. The american people are just as bad (including me) for letting this happen and go on for so long.

[C4nn4Bliss]

Don't blame the kid, blame the society which fosters unrealistic capabilties in him! hehe....

but yeah... if I came down to it, I'd wager that close to, if not everybody in this thread would be completely fucked.


haha tell me how my society fostered these unrealistic capabilties???? hehe
:rolleyes:

[C4nn4Bliss]

You have an odd signature for a gun crazy maniac. Dammit someone made a post. I'm speaking to the gentlemen who would prefer to be carried by six rather than judged by twelve.

It actually fits the profile, why is it so odd

[del...]

haha tell me how my society fostered these unrealistic capabilties???? hehe
:rolleyes:

one word...television

[Das Boot]

Isn't the traditional quote : I'd rather be judged by twelve(# of people in a jury) Then carried by six(# of paul bearers.)

Perhaps you fucked up. Oh well you are on Cannabis.com Ill cut you some slack.:stoned:

[Das Boot]

Oh shit. Either you just changed the numbers around and corrected your sig or I am the high bastard.

[C4nn4Bliss]

I dont watch TV, rots your fuckin brain inside out

I got rid of cable along time ago

[SmokeyPotter]

one word...television

My thoughts exactly Del. People who are consumed with our modern Television culture might not be able to imagine the reality of society as we know it totally collapsing. What I think a lot of you people fail to realize is that you would certainly not be the only one with the bright idea to pillage every gun store in town under the chaos driven mentality that you are invincible...

[C4nn4Bliss]

Its from a song man, some jerkoff commented on it earlier, think it was tadaa

The song goes "Id rather be carried by 6 then judged by 12 so let the streets be the prosecuter judge and jury, let me have a trial by fury. Ive had it up to here with these man made laws, America never gave a fuck about yall, so let the streets be the prosecuter judge and jury, let me have a trial by fury"

X-raided----Trial by Fury

and no i didnt change it,oh well you are on cannabis.com maybe thell cut you some slack

[C4nn4Bliss]

My thoughts exactly Del. People who are consumed with our modern Television culture might not be able to imagine the reality of society as we know it totally collapsing. What I think a lot of you people fail to realize is that you would certainly not be the only one with the bright idea to pillage every gun store in town under the chaos driven mentality that you are invincible...

i dunno bout the rest but im not fucking stupid, i dont think im invincible, its all about how you react to the situation and how quick that reaction is, any edge you can get will let you survive that much longer. Dont EVER underestimate the other guys abilities and balls

[C4nn4Bliss]

To all you who think im not being realistic, i really am, and i mean what i say, dying in this manner is more appealing to me then dying with old age in a shitty soceity that fucks you till the day you die. People suck ass, no offense to any of you

[del...]

you call running around looting and ripping off your dealers "an edge"? lol, i too say, "dream on".

[Das Boot]

and no i didnt change it,oh well you are on cannabis.com maybe thell cut you some slack

Do I detect a hint of sarcasm?

[C4nn4Bliss]

Honestly its all just a dream/thought/idea/scenario that came to me and my imagination took over. I am dying for a change of pace in my daily life, im fucking tired of the same ol shit but a different day mentality,i know you know it all fucks will tell me either change my life,find something new, get help, move somewhere new, blah blah,been there done all that. I know you people who think you know it all will also tell me that this scenario will be worse but you dont REALLY know me. Life bores me to death and i cannot find anything to occupy this boredom so this is what i have come to. Wanting america to crumble under herself and for chaos to sweep over the nation. I know that this scenario would turn into the same ol shi thing and maybe worse depending on what happened but i welcome it with open arms. I dont expect any of you to understand and i have trouble completely explaining it but nonetheless i pray for it and continue my life as normal just hoping for it to happen. Flame away fuckheads

I HATE the american lifestyle
I HATE the american dream
I HATE the american government
I HATE life as it stands

So basically my hatred for america and its ways have spawned this and this is what is has come to. Dont hate me for it

I will dream on because i am comfortable with it!

[C4nn4Bliss]

Basically i have so much hate in me thats its just begging for a reason to come out.

Atleast im honest with myself

[Das Boot]

Honestly its all just a dream/thought/idea/scenario that came to me and my imagination took over. I am dying for a change of pace in my daily life, im fucking tired of the same ol shit but a different day mentality,i know you know it all fucks will tell me either change my life,find something new, get help, move somewhere new, blah blah,been there done all that. I know you people who think you know it all will also tell me that this scenario will be worse but you dont REALLY know me. Life bores me to death and i cannot find anything to occupy this boredom so this is what i have come to. Wanting america to crumble under herself and for chaos to sweep over the nation. I know that this scenario would turn into the same ol shi thing and maybe worse depending on what happened but i welcome it with open arms. I dont expect any of you to understand and i have trouble completely explaining it but nonetheless i pray for it and continue my life as normal just hoping for it to happen. Flame away fuckheads

I HATE the american lifestyle
I HATE the american dream
I HATE the american government
I HATE life as it stands

So basically my hatred for america and its ways have spawned this and this is what is has come to. Dont hate me for it

I will dream on because i am comfortable with it!

Your not that original my friend. Plenty of antisocial people feel the same way. Of course all the people I have met who have said these things were fat nerds who are waiting for the day that the zombies come.

Hell I'm one of them.

[SmokeyPotter]

Wow man. Why so hateful? Do you have people in your life that you can trust, that love you? I think you probably do! Life may seem like a bore to you right now but trust me, it's NOT life that's boring you, it's your routine. Life is a gift to be treasured, you only have one chance at this thing(depending on spiritual beliefs) , so break out of your routine, find something that you love and makes life worthwhile for you, Seize the fucking day man!!!

[GluteusMaximus]

Nobody can back up what they say about this with any proof and neither can you bud so please dont barge in talkin like you know anything either, we all dont know exactly, this is all hypothetical. Im curious as to why you dont think someone could survive with less than your armored tank and platoons of soldiers that sounds just ridiculous to me. If this widespread chaos broke out for whatever reason you think the government could control it all??especially with their dicks in the middle east when it happens?? THEY CANT EVEN HANDLE SOME FUCKIN TOWELHEAD INSURGENTS IN IRAQ! Give me a break, youd rather put a round in your head than live this scenario out???? I call bullshit! You can only speak for yourself you cannot speak for me or others on here so shut it about that one. I for one live day by day hating what america has become and how everyone likes to pretend we arent getting fucked by our oh so wonderful government, ya you probably will come back at me wiht they do this they do that, thats what they want you to focus on. The american people are just as bad (including me) for letting this happen and go on for so long.

Dude, you remind me of some punk who came back from Vietnam who wanted to live in the bush forever. His name was Mike Bishop and he put a gun to his head one year after his return because he couldn't deal with non-chaotic reality. He also made up these same fantasy scenarios and dreamed of himself holding back the army single handed. Again, I say you're making this scenario fit your little fantasy. You make assumptions that you are the only one left with the means to survive. I say you'll be dead before you ever reach your hideout. Anyone with you will soon learn that you're self centered, ignorant, narrow minded and unable to adjust to your surroundings like you've already admited and soon they will put you out of their misery. You're a poor military leader and an even worse sole survivor. You've thought this through but only in the scenario you created. Chaos is about unpredictable changes outside your control and you are suggesting you're ready to deal with it competantly. I can only laugh at your stupidity and ignorance, not to mention your narrow minded vision of the others who will survive. You lack the ability to adjust and follow scenarios that skew from your already predetermined outcome. You also focus on the government's flaws linking them to your own discontent with the world. You also mentioned that the government can't control it all...well you're right, the government can't control everything. But nowhere did I mention the government doing squat so I don't know where or why you grasped for that one. When you can deal with the here and now then maybe I'll believe you have a chance in some other situation, but until then, you're just playing out your little fantasy shooting missiles at guys throwing rocks.

GM

[likemclever]

I am very confident that with the knowledge I have that if the world fell into total chaos tomorow I would survive and thrive, how do you think you would fare?


I would survive

I know that seems like a strange answer for a single mother to have. If fact caring for my daughter would undoubtedly be my biggest challengeâ?¦.after all itâ??s my biggest challenge now.

I guess it depends how you define your chaos. Iâ??m not so much worried about food as I am water. I live in the country thank God and there is a water source near by but itâ??s not fresh water. Good thing Iâ??m a stoner and I have plenty of BIC lighters : )

And yes you might eventually run out of bulletâ??s but how many mother fuckers would you have to shoot in the head and leave on your door step before the others got the message. My guess is about 4; maybe it could go high as a dozen if things got really hairy.

Fact is that there are two kinds of people in this world. The kind that wish to be saved and the kind that save themselves.

I wonâ??t be waiting outside for the government to drop dinner off thatâ??s for sure.

[graph]

Oh man, you know how quickly I'd die? I think the only way you can really live is by having followers or isolating yourself. I mean, in all reality, life would go back to the way it was in medieval times. Gangs would form and would become their own nations. Eventually, one person would conquer these nations and create a bigger nation, just like what always happens in history.

[tootsie roll]

It would suck ass if there were no guns. The only people who would survive would be giant men who could swing giant sticks. Not unlike myself. I would be a GOD!

Anyone notice that not one person has voted for the "help mummy" choice. We all think were such badasses it's kind of sad.


I wasn't here yet to do that. lol. I'd be crying for my mommy.

Seriously, I was brought up sheltered in a burb. Luckily I married a guy who can do anything and was brought up on a farm. I would be terrified but we'd survive.

[C4nn4Bliss]

Your not that original my friend. Plenty of antisocial people feel the same way. Of course all the people I have met who have said these things were fat nerds who are waiting for the day that the zombies come.

Hell I'm one of them.

I am not anti-social, i live a fairly normal life but this is how i feel inside, am i wrong for it? maybe...


Here is Mr. Been Here Done That I Know You Like A Fucking Book From A Few Rants On A Forum On The Internet AKA The know it all.....You are as sad as i am pal


Dude, you remind me of some punk who came back from Vietnam who wanted to live in the bush forever. His name was Mike Bishop and he put a gun to his head one year after his return because he couldn't deal with non-chaotic reality. He also made up these same fantasy scenarios and dreamed of himself holding back the army single handed. Again, I say you're making this scenario fit your little fantasy. You make assumptions that you are the only one left with the means to survive. I say you'll be dead before you ever reach your hideout. Anyone with you will soon learn that you're self centered, ignorant, narrow minded and unable to adjust to your surroundings like you've already admited and soon they will put you out of their misery. You're a poor military leader and an even worse sole survivor. You've thought this through but only in the scenario you created. Chaos is about unpredictable changes outside your control and you are suggesting you're ready to deal with it competantly. I can only laugh at your stupidity and ignorance, not to mention your narrow minded vision of the others who will survive. You lack the ability to adjust and follow scenarios that skew from your already predetermined outcome. You also focus on the government's flaws linking them to your own discontent with the world. You also mentioned that the government can't control it all...well you're right, the government can't control everything. But nowhere did I mention the government doing squat so I don't know where or why you grasped for that one. When you can deal with the here and now then maybe I'll believe you have a chance in some other situation, but until then, you're just playing out your little fantasy shooting missiles at guys throwing rocks.

GM

First off a punk from vietnam??? Are you kidding me???? Thats pretty insulting considering how fucked things were over there, you didnt need to say that at all. Cant blame the guy for taking his life, im sure it fucked with him and you make it sound like its his fault. Im glad you said that right off the bat cause IMO that labels you as a fat mouthed punk bitch who thinks he knows everything and talks like it.......

boy you are a little detective arent you! I love it! The fact is i AM living with life the way it is, just because i hate it doesnt mean i cant deal with it because thats what im doing right now ya fucktard. I really enjoy how you try to finger out who i am and how i am from my little rant. You blow it way out of context pal!! Me saying i drool or get a hard-on over the thought is just me poking fun at myself. Never said i would do anything single handedly so i dont know how you pulled that out of your ass. Its not nessecarily a fantasy but i do like the idea alot.

"Anyone with you will soon learn that you're self centered, ignorant, narrow minded and unable to adjust to your surroundings like you've already admited and soon they will put you out of their misery."

wow man i cant believe you pulled that out of a few paragraphs, you are fucking amazing!! You amaze me as much as the guy that talks to the dead. Talk about assumptions here bud, the thing is everything you say about me is an assumption and it cracks me up that you actually took the time to write it all out when in the end its just an assumption mixed with your opinion but of course you are entitled to it in the end. When you go out on a limb like you did you break the limb and fall on your stupid ass. You seriously think you can figure me out that easy?? Because i say i have alot of hate towards life and america??? That has ignorance and stupidity written all over it. If you were to meet me on the street you wouldnt even know all this or even have the slightest clue!!! Did you not read the multiple times i said that it all depended on the circumstances and nobody can know how it would unfold and that it was just a fucking plan in the end?? Or maybe you just skipped that part and responded anyway. I know your gonna respond to this with more i know you better than you know yourself bullshit and thats cool, thats just who you are but i probably wont respond back to it because it wil just end up going in circles.

If you were to examine my life you would see that it isnt that bad of a life and i have been blessed to be able to be raised in a middle class family in a safe neighboorhood and have more opportunities than most people and have parents that worked hard for me. You act like im totally obilvious to what i have in life(when you have no clue about it) or that i dont appreciate it when i do but i am just not satisfied with what most people are satisfied with. What is dubbed a normal life i could never be satisfied with. The hate part that isnt normal for my circumstances and i dont know why i hate life so much but people like you sure as fuck dont make it better. I am curious as to what you have to say next, whatever it is it wont suprise me. The government thing well i mean how could you like politics and governments?? Its a shady business and were there is that much power it can be manipulated. You writing that rant is just as stupid as my scenario plans.


Go back and read what i said because most of what you say doesnt even apply to what you said, its all hypothetical, its just a plan, an idea whatever you wanna call it. You need me to go look up what a fantasy is for you bro?? You enter a fantasy world everytime you go to sleep or daydream. Your imagination is based upon fantasy, so get the fuck off my back for some stupid shit like this, my god man. What the fuck is your problem??

[king kong bong]

i feel the same about the american life. people are so brainwashed by the entertainment industry it's sickening. people are afraid to be themselves cuz they are afraid of what society might say.

[C4nn4Bliss]

Wow man. Why so hateful? Do you have people in your life that you can trust, that love you? I think you probably do! Life may seem like a bore to you right now but trust me, it's NOT life that's boring you, it's your routine. Life is a gift to be treasured, you only have one chance at this thing(depending on spiritual beliefs) , so break out of your routine, find something that you love and makes life worthwhile for you, Seize the fucking day man!!!


I dunno, its beyond me, ive been trying to figure that out for since i was oh about 15 so thats like comin up on 6 years now. When you say something like this you are preaching to the choir buddy. Believe me i understand and appreciate that you are trying to give words of hope and what not but why do you think that everyone has the same views on life. Why do you think your view on life is right?? You know all this from YOUR life, please dont speak for others like myself. My routine is normal in societies eyes, i have a good job, i have my own place, i have a newly started relationship, i have a loving family, i have good friends. Technically people would kill to have a life like mine but its beyond me why i am not satisfied with it. It might be that i see the human race as something so much more than it is right now, i look around and i see what we as a race have accomplished and i see so much more potential in you me and everyone but there is just something blocking us from achieving that next step. Our technology advances by the day but we as a people cant seem to figure out how to live with each other normally. To me it seems the government plays a role in this. This is what i get stuck on when i break it down, If i think about it, it blows up out of proportion and i cant look past it. This is what thrives my anger, this is what makes me want chaos to break out. It may not make sense or be a rational thought but it is what it is. I guess i myself kinda blew the chaos scenario out of proportion but like i said its all an idea and it was a plan

[beachguy in thongs]

I got a feeling a terrorist attack might knock american society off its shitty little peg stilts that it stands upon.

Oh my. A direct attack on a society in which I live.

Well, we all know who's on their own side.

edit: I kept reading, and this is pretty pathetic. I'm glad none of you have to encounter me, ever, you're probably the most unappealing group of people to exist.

[Torog]

I am very confident that with the knowledge I have that if the world fell into total chaos tomorow I would survive and thrive, how do you think you would fare?

Howdy psychocat,

I voted for "I'd struggle but ultimately survive" option,because us country boys will survive ! :thumbsup:

The tv show "Survivor",gives us a hint of how ill-prepared most Americans are when providing the the 3 basic tenets of any survival situaton,that being water,food and shelter.

I moved away from the city to avoid the desperate folks that would be there if the food supply broke down,most grocery stores only have 2-4 days worth of groceries on hand and they'd quickly run out of food and water in such a situation. Most of my neighbors are country folks that are pretty well prepared and we'd look out for each other,rather than raiding each other's supplies,most are skilled hunters and there's plenty of wildlife out here,that probably wouldn't be affected that much-unless there was radioactive fall-out coming down. There's plenty of water and firewood,out here in the boonies and most of us know how to start a fire and maintain it. I'm also pretty certain,that there are some out here who have ammo reloaders and a supply of bullets,powder,casings and primers. I do wish that I had a bigger supply of ammo and shame on me-I ain't got any water stockpiled.

Survival..can be as simple as ya can make it-or complicated..I suggest the simple route..lol. The K.I.S.S. principal,goes a long ways in a survival situation. We should all have at least 3 different ways of starting a fire,and practice using them all. We should learn how to build an effective shelter as well,if needed and certainly hunting and fishing skills are a plus,as well as snare and trap-making.

Chances are though,we ain't looking at an apocalyptic situation..we'd have to git nuked by russia or china,for that to happen and public order would most likely be restored pretty soon..one way or another.

Have a good one ! :stoned:

[beachguy in thongs]

You too, Torog!

I looked down quick and thought you were gonna say "naked", but it was "nuked". I think we should all get naked by Russia or China.

[Torog]

You too, Torog!

I looked down quick and thought you were gonna say "naked", but it was "nuked". I think we should all get naked by Russia or China.

Howdy beachguy,

Lol..:D

Say..I like yer signature area..and I was wondering if you have a link for that marijuana is God's child too foundation,it don't seem to be an active link.

Have a good one ! :stoned:

[MullManiac]

i think i would fair pretty well, in the back of my mind i wish it would happen.

[Euphoric]

At the first sign of danger i will begin to devour nearby humans much like a frightened mother rodent with young

[Oneironaut]

Even if the government did totally collapse, the vast majority of Americans are currently in favor of having a centralized government, and there are lots of groups which would immediately start building armies and governments (lots of people have political agendas, remember). And what with all the crisis it is entirely possible a lot of people might be receptive to a very strong totalitarian-like government. In any case, it's hard to imagine a scenario in which the government suddenly collapses due to some crisis and the people are just okay with that.

And contrary to what you might think, the chaotic state of affairs caused by a government collapse is not "anarchy". The word anarchy comes from the Greek for "without rulers". Anarchy describes a society where nobody can force their will upon other people by means of threats or violence. But of course, in such a of social chaos caused by sudden collapse of the government, there would be lots of groups trying to enforce their wills on others. It would not be anarchistic at all. Real anarchy could only come about by a conscious revolution of the masses to reject all coercive powers, be they presidents, legislators, policemen, bosses, landlords, gods, priests, murderers, rapists or thieves. Anarchy is not the lack of large scale social organization. Quite the opposite—such organization is absolutely necessary for anarchy, but it has to be strictly democratic, egalitarian, bottom-up organization, without any power hierarchies or central authorities.

[Torog]

Howdy Oneironaut,

Say..have ya eve heard of the Tri-States scenario ? I could imagine such a 'goverment',popping up in the South..what say you ?

Have a good one ...

[Oneironaut]

No, I haven't.

[Torog]

No, I haven't.

Howdy Oneironaut,

If ya do a google search for "Tri-States philosophy",you'll see what I mean.

Have a good one ...

[beachguy in thongs]

Howdy beachguy,

Lol..:D

Say..I like yer signature area..and I was wondering if you have a link for that marijuana is God's child too foundation,it don't seem to be an active link.

Have a good one ! :stoned:
Lol, no I haven't set up the foundation, yet.

[Torog]

Lol, no I haven't set up the foundation, yet.

Howdy beachguy,

Oh...lol. Well it sounds like a good idea to me ! :thumbsup:

I believe with all of my heart and soul,that God created cannabis,along with every other seed-bearing herb and plant,for our own use-as we see fit. And for some folks to say that some of God's creations are bad and some are good,is like spitting in God's face.

It makes me wnat to stomp into the court-room next month,and ask the judge-just who in the heck do you think that you are-to decide which of God's creations are good and which are bad ?!

Have a good one ! :stoned:

[Oneironaut]

Howdy Oneironaut,

If ya do a google search for "Tri-States philosophy",you'll see what I mean.

Have a good one ...
From what I can find about the idea, it seems to be that if we just return to the original constitutional principles everybody will be happy and corruption will never creep into politics again. All we have to do is keep the government from interfering too much in our lives and everything will be okay.

The problem, of course, is that power corrupts. In all of history there has never been an authoritarian social structure (a hierarchy in which some people have the power to force their wills upon others) that has resisted this maxim. When you give people power, a lot of them will abuse it. Reforming the power structures will not bring us freedom, nor will replacing the existing power structures with new ones. Only abolishing them can do that. The only way to get rid of people abusing power and money is to get rid of power and money.

From the Stone Age to the Spanish Revolution (http://flag.blackened.net/revolt/spaindx.html), history shows again and again that societies can run according to egalitarian principles, and that all authorities are unnecessary as well as harmful to liberty. We have been able to live without state and economic authorities before, and there is nothing preventing us from doing it again. I can only conclude that we would be much better without legislators and bosses, if we had instead a libertarian communist system in which everybody was on equal footing and had no authority to dictate to others what they must and must not do. Anything short of that is not "freedom and justice for all".

[GluteusMaximus]

First off a punk from vietnam??? Are you kidding me???? Thats pretty insulting considering how fucked things were over there, you didnt need to say that at all. Cant blame the guy for taking his life, im sure it fucked with him and you make it sound like its his fault. Im glad you said that right off the bat cause IMO that labels you as a fat mouthed punk bitch who thinks he knows everything and talks like it.......

boy you are a little detective arent you! I love it! The fact is i AM living with life the way it is, just because i hate it doesnt mean i cant deal with it because thats what im doing right now ya fucktard. I really enjoy how you try to finger out who i am and how i am from my little rant. You blow it way out of context pal!! Me saying i drool or get a hard-on over the thought is just me poking fun at myself. Never said i would do anything single handedly so i dont know how you pulled that out of your ass. Its not nessecarily a fantasy but i do like the idea alot.

"Anyone with you will soon learn that you're self centered, ignorant, narrow minded and unable to adjust to your surroundings like you've already admited and soon they will put you out of their misery."

wow man i cant believe you pulled that out of a few paragraphs, you are fucking amazing!! You amaze me as much as the guy that talks to the dead. Talk about assumptions here bud, the thing is everything you say about me is an assumption and it cracks me up that you actually took the time to write it all out when in the end its just an assumption mixed with your opinion but of course you are entitled to it in the end. When you go out on a limb like you did you break the limb and fall on your stupid ass. You seriously think you can figure me out that easy?? Because i say i have alot of hate towards life and america??? That has ignorance and stupidity written all over it. If you were to meet me on the street you wouldnt even know all this or even have the slightest clue!!! Did you not read the multiple times i said that it all depended on the circumstances and nobody can know how it would unfold and that it was just a fucking plan in the end?? Or maybe you just skipped that part and responded anyway. I know your gonna respond to this with more i know you better than you know yourself bullshit and thats cool, thats just who you are but i probably wont respond back to it because it wil just end up going in circles.

If you were to examine my life you would see that it isnt that bad of a life and i have been blessed to be able to be raised in a middle class family in a safe neighboorhood and have more opportunities than most people and have parents that worked hard for me. You act like im totally obilvious to what i have in life(when you have no clue about it) or that i dont appreciate it when i do but i am just not satisfied with what most people are satisfied with. What is dubbed a normal life i could never be satisfied with. The hate part that isnt normal for my circumstances and i dont know why i hate life so much but people like you sure as fuck dont make it better. I am curious as to what you have to say next, whatever it is it wont suprise me. The government thing well i mean how could you like politics and governments?? Its a shady business and were there is that much power it can be manipulated. You writing that rant is just as stupid as my scenario plans.


Go back and read what i said because most of what you say doesnt even apply to what you said, its all hypothetical, its just a plan, an idea whatever you wanna call it. You need me to go look up what a fantasy is for you bro?? You enter a fantasy world everytime you go to sleep or daydream. Your imagination is based upon fantasy, so get the fuck off my back for some stupid shit like this, my god man. What the fuck is your problem??

"First off a punk from vietnam??? Are you kidding me???? Thats pretty insulting considering how fucked things were over there, you didnt need to say that at all. Cant blame the guy for taking his life, im sure it fucked with him and you make it sound like its his fault. Im glad you said that right off the bat cause IMO that labels you as a fat mouthed punk bitch who thinks he knows everything and talks like it......."

Lets start with that^^^^

You can't blame the guy because you're sure it fucked with his life? That just goes to show you prefer to assume the world is one thing when indeed it is another. That punk from Vietnam was a punk long before he joined. He went over there thinking he was going to become some type of war hero and never saw one bit of action. He returned with stories about his "combat action" and we later discovered from others stationed with him that he never saw action and made up his "hero of the army" fantasy. I suggest you quit jumping to conclusions as it makes you look like a fool.

God, it's hard to find a place to begin so here goes. I find it very easy to analyze you. You are as shallow as a comic book. There are many just like you and it's clear that you have a desire to live out a fantasy that you yourself construct as you go along. I simply pointed out that you lack the ability and sense to be able to survive in a "real" chaotic situation. How do I know this?....simple, you mentioned hitting gun stores, pharmacies, killing the guy who sells you dope for his stash, defending a farm, surviving bullet wounds which only hit your arm....on and on...obviously showing you only desire to see yourself challenged with the survival in a dream where you can't possibly die.

This discussion only demonstrates that you are only venting your frustrations on anyone who exposes you for what you are. It's real easy to determine when a child is immature, it doesn't take more than a few sentences out of his mouth to show he's got a lot of growing up to do. So yes, I can easily analyze you from the few contradicting paragraphs you posted. They are simple constructs of rather shallow thoughts which show your total lack of intelligence.

I compare you to a child who spends more time in fantasyland than in realityworld. I know, I know, this is all just a "what if" scenario, but your solutions to each scenario only shows that you prefer to be in a world that you can control with a trigger instead of a complex world requiring much more to make it better.

Finally.....I DID re-read your posts and have seen so many contradictions in the very same paragraphs! Dude, you are seriously unfocused, incapable of discussing a subject intelligently, running off in every direction until you find one that works, you personally attack readers who challenge you, only showing that you use re-direction as a means to avoid exposure as the incompetent you are. Yes I am a "fat mouthed punk bitch" who can debate intelligently on subjects of fact or in your case fantasy. I took great pleasure in exposing you to the other readers because I can't stand to see someone bullshitting others even if it is in a "fantasy".

I'm certain you'd wet yourself at the first sign of trouble and be dead from friendly fire before you ever reach your hideout.

GM

[da haze meister]

you know a 5.56 nato round clip weighs about a lb, so your talkin 63 lbs there that you wanna take on a bike?? thats unrealistic under these circumstances

posting stuff like that and blaming it on being high is just ludacris, dont do that shit, your ruining your credibility here
i have been here like 90 times as long as you. i definitely have more credibility. please do not disrespect me, i dont want a flame war. i made a rough estimate asshole, i didnt go weigh out a .223 clip, as i dont have one. i was talking about .45 anyway, and i wasnt implying all of the ammo in clips.

[JunkYard]

i have been here like 90 times as long as you. i definitely have more credibility. please do not disrespect me, i dont want a flame war. i made a rough estimate asshole, i didnt go weigh out a .223 clip, as i dont have one. i was talking about .45 anyway, and i wasnt implying all of the ammo in clips.

No disrespect, but what does length of time being here have to do with credibility?

[king kong bong]

there is a flaw in the crops plan. if several nuclear weapons were used. the result would be a nuclear winter. good luck tryin to grow crops in that mess.

[JunkYard]

If it's a nucular thing, then I'd say we're all screwed. Seriousy, extreme radiation, and canned goods would last for only so long. Tainted water supplies, and so on...

If we get nuked, put me in the garden with a killer joint, and let the fucker fall right on top me!

Great frakin view. ;)

[clear the way mugs]

triabl warriors will climb up

[king kong bong]

T-star all the way...

end of times gear: rvd singlet

[C4nn4Bliss]

"First off a punk from vietnam??? Are you kidding me???? Thats pretty insulting considering how fucked things were over there, you didnt need to say that at all. Cant blame the guy for taking his life, im sure it fucked with him and you make it sound like its his fault. Im glad you said that right off the bat cause IMO that labels you as a fat mouthed punk bitch who thinks he knows everything and talks like it......."

Lets start with that^^^^

You can't blame the guy because you're sure it fucked with his life? That just goes to show you prefer to assume the world is one thing when indeed it is another. That punk from Vietnam was a punk long before he joined. He went over there thinking he was going to become some type of war hero and never saw one bit of action. He returned with stories about his "combat action" and we later discovered from others stationed with him that he never saw action and made up his "hero of the army" fantasy. I suggest you quit jumping to conclusions as it makes you look like a fool.

God, it's hard to find a place to begin so here goes. I find it very easy to analyze you. You are as shallow as a comic book. There are many just like you and it's clear that you have a desire to live out a fantasy that you yourself construct as you go along. I simply pointed out that you lack the ability and sense to be able to survive in a "real" chaotic situation. How do I know this?....simple, you mentioned hitting gun stores, pharmacies, killing the guy who sells you dope for his stash, defending a farm, surviving bullet wounds which only hit your arm....on and on...obviously showing you only desire to see yourself challenged with the survival in a dream where you can't possibly die.

This discussion only demonstrates that you are only venting your frustrations on anyone who exposes you for what you are. It's real easy to determine when a child is immature, it doesn't take more than a few sentences out of his mouth to show he's got a lot of growing up to do. So yes, I can easily analyze you from the few contradicting paragraphs you posted. They are simple constructs of rather shallow thoughts which show your total lack of intelligence.

I compare you to a child who spends more time in fantasyland than in realityworld. I know, I know, this is all just a "what if" scenario, but your solutions to each scenario only shows that you prefer to be in a world that you can control with a trigger instead of a complex world requiring much more to make it better.

Finally.....I DID re-read your posts and have seen so many contradictions in the very same paragraphs! Dude, you are seriously unfocused, incapable of discussing a subject intelligently, running off in every direction until you find one that works, you personally attack readers who challenge you, only showing that you use re-direction as a means to avoid exposure as the incompetent you are. Yes I am a "fat mouthed punk bitch" who can debate intelligently on subjects of fact or in your case fantasy. I took great pleasure in exposing you to the other readers because I can't stand to see someone bullshitting others even if it is in a "fantasy".

I'm certain you'd wet yourself at the first sign of trouble and be dead from friendly fire before you ever reach your hideout.

GM


Im gonna keep this short and sweet as possible cause we could go back and forth like i said, going in circles. Im sorry but you blow it so muchout of proportion(especially this fantasy deal) it makes me laugh. You come to illegitimate conclusions based on what? what was that??? oh yeah, a few paragraphs which you are so confident in making assumptions with. Give me a fucking break man, you are smarter than that. Im gonna take a guess and say you are between late 20's mid 30's, with that said you should know better!!! I guess i dont take the internet as serious as you because i dont see how you could ever attack someone with some text over the internet period. I wonder what you do when someone attacks you in real life.....You can believe what you want all day but at the end of that day you are wrong, mainly because you cant really prove anything here. You can accuse on the internet all day but where is that going to get you? Nowhere.....

You sound like a damn psychologist trying to crack someones brain open like a nut, but whats worse is you try and do it over the internet. Whats worse than that you ask??? You try and do it over a stoner forum over the internet and act like im supposed to take you serious. Wow....

Good day sir...

[GluteusMaximus]

Im gonna keep this short and sweet as possible cause we could go back and forth like i said, going in circles. Im sorry but you blow it so muchout of proportion(especially this fantasy deal) it makes me laugh. You come to illegitimate conclusions based on what? what was that??? oh yeah, a few paragraphs which you are so confident in making assumptions with. Give me a fucking break man, you are smarter than that. Im gonna take a guess and say you are between late 20's mid 30's, with that said you should know better!!! I guess i dont take the internet as serious as you because i dont see how you could ever attack someone with some text over the internet period. I wonder what you do when someone attacks you in real life.....You can believe what you want all day but at the end of that day you are wrong, mainly because you cant really prove anything here. You can accuse on the internet all day but where is that going to get you? Nowhere.....

You sound like a damn psychologist trying to crack someones brain open like a nut, but whats worse is you try and do it over the internet. Whats worse than that you ask??? You try and do it over a stoner forum over the internet and act like im supposed to take you serious. Wow....

Good day sir...

Again, you've proven my point with the response you constantly give. If you're exposed, you run for re-direction. Try to stay focused on the subject. Instead of debating/discussing the issues posted, you instead begin to target the writer personally. I could care less about your personal problems, I just thought that you should receive what you've been dishing out. I'd be happy to sit here all day and expose your ignorance to the other readers but only because you've taken the position of telling others they're either right or wrong. There is no "right or wrong" pal....Using your own words....


You can believe what you want all day but at the end of that day you are wrong, mainly because you cant really prove anything here.

Does that even make sense? I must be wrong because I can't prove anything here? Using that logic, every word you type must be "wrong". Do you even have the capability to stay focused in your own sentences? One thing I CAN prove here is your complete lack of intelligence by means of posting your own responses. You are constantly contradicting yourself and with each example, you expose yourself as the ignoramus you are.

It's obvious that you're suffering from delusions of grandeur and can't seem to debate/discuss a subject without skewing off in some direction to avoid the scenario follow through. You constantly keep referring to YOUR desire to live in this fantasy of yours. Who gives a shit about what your personal issues are, discuss the damn subject at hand and quit targeting other readers for posting their opinions.

GM

[Torog]

Howdy psychocat,

I voted for "I'd struggle but ultimately survive" option,because us country boys will survive ! :thumbsup:

The tv show "Survivor",gives us a hint of how ill-prepared most Americans are when providing the the 3 basic tenets of any survival situaton,that being water,food and shelter.

I moved away from the city to avoid the desperate folks that would be there if the food supply broke down,most grocery stores only have 2-4 days worth of groceries on hand and they'd quickly run out of food and water in such a situation. Most of my neighbors are country folks that are pretty well prepared and we'd look out for each other,rather than raiding each other's supplies,most are skilled hunters and there's plenty of wildlife out here,that probably wouldn't be affected that much-unless there was radioactive fall-out coming down. There's plenty of water and firewood,out here in the boonies and most of us know how to start a fire and maintain it. I'm also pretty certain,that there are some out here who have ammo reloaders and a supply of bullets,powder,casings and primers. I do wish that I had a bigger supply of ammo and shame on me-I ain't got any water stockpiled.

Survival..can be as simple as ya can make it-or complicated..I suggest the simple route..lol. The K.I.S.S. principal,goes a long ways in a survival situation. We should all have at least 3 different ways of starting a fire,and practice using them all. We should learn how to build an effective shelter as well,if needed and certainly hunting and fishing skills are a plus,as well as snare and trap-making.

Chances are though,we ain't looking at an apocalyptic situation..we'd have to git nuked by russia or china,for that to happen and public order would most likely be restored pretty soon..one way or another.

Have a good one ! :stoned:

(BUMP) I'm gonna round up this here little doggie..and steer em back into the herd-before he git's too far from his mama...Hya ! Gitti'up !

[tadaa]

i have been here like 90 times as long as you. i definitely have more credibility. please do not disrespect me, i dont want a flame war. i made a rough estimate asshole, i didnt go weigh out a .223 clip, as i dont have one. i was talking about .45 anyway, and i wasnt implying all of the ammo in clips.

Actually it's called a magazine, not a clip. And yes, there is a difference.

[C4nn4Bliss]

i thought that we dont use clips anymore, thats like world war 2 talk
my pap's only used the word clip when he was talking about revolvers

a clip is more like a bandalier(SP)???

[C4nn4Bliss]

tadaa you know whats the max grain bullet you can use in a 1911, i know a guy with some illegal grain 45 hollows that i want to buy but im not sure if using the grain he has is safe. I dont want the gun to explode in my hand....

[da haze meister]

Actually it's called a magazine, not a clip. And yes, there is a difference.
clip is easier to say than magazine.

[C4nn4Bliss]

that was a stupid answer da haze

[tadaa]

clip is easier to say than magazine.

I know I was just teasing, and Bliss I don't know the max grain, does he load his own or something? I would just look for the max grain sold commercially and not go any higher than that.

[Das Boot]

Here is Mr. Been Here Done That I Know You Like A Fucking Book From A Few Rants On A Forum On The Internet AKA The know it all.....You are as sad as i am pal


How did you figure out that I was a Mr. Been Here Done That I Know You Like A Fucking Book From A Few Rants On A Forum On The Internet AKA The know it all? Was It from a few random posts I made on the internet?

It can't be that you yourself have made it abundantley clear that you cant judge people by a few posts on the internet.

[God v2.0]

Now, what if there were radioactive super-zombies attacking the USA and every person they kill just turns into another Super-zombie....also they have superhuman strength and speed and the only way to kill them is blow their heads off or burn them to death.....how would you survive that smart ass?

And they aren't stupid zombies either they are just possesed, so they can still use guns and drive (badly) and think on a basic level.

[Das Boot]

The Fonze would protect me.

[king kong bong]

hey, sit on it.