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Clever Swine
03-20-2006, 03:04 AM
i reckon most drugs should be legal. Except heroin. I think policing in our country is so bogged down with gun related drug offences. I think that legalising drugs would save a lot of gun crime.
cheers

higher4hockey
03-20-2006, 03:17 AM
it would cut down on gun crimes. but rehab costs would shoot through the roof. think about it.

hey guys what do you want to do tonight....well lets go down to 7/11 get some blow, weed, acid, and e. and see what happens.

Euphoric
03-20-2006, 03:22 AM
Yes all drugs should be legalized!!!!!!!!

Harder drugs should require some education or liscense to operate, tho, i believe.

SyR1S
03-20-2006, 03:26 AM
Weed and E i think should be legalized not so sure bout cocaine and the addictive shit though, but whatever gets legalized just make sure it isnt meth, which would never happen. Meths dumb and is really bad for you.

RevDutch
03-20-2006, 03:26 AM
technically speaking I think that all substances should be legal. there should not be any laws that restrict the actions of anyone. the problem with this is that for the most part people are stupid. the global society that we live in is not mature enough to lift all restrictions on it's people. can drugs cause serious harm? yes. should anything that can cause harm be illegal? F*ck no.

drugs should be legal, but people should also be responsible when using them. so until people can be responsible, there need to be certain restrictions.

Kryzco
03-20-2006, 03:35 AM
Yes all drugs should be legalized!!!!!!!!

Harder drugs should require some education or liscense to operate, tho, i believe.

I think cid weed shrooms and stuff like that, but herion and coke and stuff shouldn't although it could relieve a lot of gun crimes

mrdevious
03-20-2006, 03:40 AM
I think drugs need to stop being treated with a stupid blanket approach. Personally, I would have drugs controlled as such:

Class 1: Weed and the such 100% legal and contolled like alchohol

class 2: Mushrooms, Acid, Peyote, that sort of stuff. Make it so you register with a federal account, then you can legally buy any of these. however, there will be a limit per week/month of how much you can buy and your account will set the limit. so when you reach the maximum amount you can purchase, you can buy no more until the week/month is up. Then, increase penalties for illegal production and sale. Quantities allowed should be determined by 3rd party scientists experienced in the field, with the scientist's identities kept anomynous so as to avoid political pressure.

Class 3: seriously, undoubtedly damaging drugs like heroin, meth, and crack should remain illegal. Production and sale will have you face jailtime, simple posession will have absolutely no jailtime, but 2-3 months of forced rehab in a secure facility. Posession of extremely large quantities for sale, insanely large amounts like 20 pounds of meth which is obviously for sale on a large-scale, will mean life-imprisonment. I figure ruining hundreds or even thousands of lives deserves such.

WakingDream
03-20-2006, 05:30 AM
Your system is flawed.

I love mushrooms, I ran out my account. My friend loves Acid and he ran out his account. I buy him acid and he gives me mushrooms. Simple as that.

litespeed
03-20-2006, 05:43 AM
mrdevious::
u foregot one PCP, we had a person putting it into jonts and given it to 12/13 year olds here,, some one took one of his LEGS at the knee with a 357...
he is not a bad ass any more.

d00d989
03-20-2006, 05:57 AM
Yes all drugs should be legalized!!!!!!!!

Harder drugs should require some education or liscense to operate, tho, i believe.

dude you're a genius!
i always thought drugs like shrooms, weed, acid, should be legalized, but i wasnt sure about meth, heroin, all that stuff because people can abuse it easily.

but if they had to take some special classes to get a liscense for it, then they would use it responsibly

FindingTim
03-20-2006, 06:29 AM
MrDevious, I completely agree with your entire system. Marijuana should be legal, but meth and heroin and such should most definitely remain illegal. They are awful for you and almost guarantee a negative shift in ones life. People who try drugs beyond hallucinagins need to have more respect for their bodies.

Kryzco
03-20-2006, 06:32 AM
MrDevious, I completely agree with your entire system. Marijuana should be legal, but meth and heroin and such should most definitely remain illegal. They are awful for you and almost guarantee a negative shift in ones life. People who try drugs beyond hallucinagins need to have more respect for their bodies.

i agree with that

but then again, some can handle it, some can't

I think weed and hallucinogens should be legal,and the heavier stuff illegal

I heard in canada that they administer herion to addicts because they prefer that they get the drug from a safe place instead of on the street

i always thought thats actually a good idea

some people just won't change but I think that something like that is a lot better than them going out and risking an accidental overdose

Jimmicrackedcorn
03-20-2006, 09:21 AM
All legal
The licenses would be a good idea, but won't always ensure 'responsible' ppl, there are plenty of shit drivers out there with licenses, and its not exactly hard to drive a car without a license, albeit illegaly, can still be done as long as you don't get caught. With drugs all you will have to do is use the substance and thats it, you won't get prosecuted at all, so,if anything all the illegal users will have more substances if they were legalized but only to licensed users. People will do what they want anyway, some people just won't take heroin, and will prefer the effects of certain drugs, there are plenty of ppl who have used an entire catelogue of drugs, but ended up being an alcoholic. Some people will naturally inhibit there use to stay away from the long term negative effects, others like we see in modern day society, won't. Like the alcoholics we see on the streets, but many hold down business jobs, same with other drug addictions, had a few teachers who were alcoholics. Everyone expects it to turn in to armageddon, smackheads roaming the streets, stealing for there next fix, needles everywhere, but why would they be stealing? and why would they shoot in the street? if the stuff was legal, and didn't interfere with gettin a job, then the smackhead roaming the streets would be of the same mind as the average mugger, stealin cuz he's a prick, not cuz he has no other means of gettin money, and he'd shoot at home mostly, as what I've heard from heroin it just makes you completely content with everything, most choosing to lie down and let it ride over them. There's crime now, there's drugs now, and its illegal, if there was no law this shit would still be happening, but the need for crime would decrease because it wouldn't be as beneficial, because it would be available everywhere, and there's ALWAYS going to be drugs, every civilization in the world has a drug, and we seek recreation, people know heroin is out there, and pills and the like are easy as shit to get, and people do tek em, but most, use it on weekends, or monthly, occasionally more, I don't think it would particularly change very much.

somebody someone
03-20-2006, 02:23 PM
i believe all natural substances should be legal, man made drugs should remain illegal. Simple as.

LIP
03-20-2006, 02:25 PM
Soft drugs should be legal. These include, weed, coke, E, shrooms, acid, speed, Valium and any other perscription ones. They should also make a DXM pill. Then people would buy these easily, and not have to go to a dealer and have the option to buy harder drugs. Because Hollland did it the number of hard drug Addicts fell dramaticly.

psychocat
03-20-2006, 03:58 PM
i believe all natural substances should be legal, man made drugs should remain illegal. Simple as.

Opiates are natural and we all know how many problems are caused in society because of heroin abuse.Just because something is natural doesn't make it harmless and allowing everyone free access to all drugs is really asking for trouble.
The relatively safe drugs are in my opinion Grass,E and shrooms but I don't think we should take anything for granted.

http://www.sayno.com/opiates.html

daima
03-20-2006, 04:02 PM
it would cut down on gun crimes. but rehab costs would shoot through the roof. think about it.

hey guys what do you want to do tonight....well lets go down to 7/11 get some blow, weed, acid, and e. and see what happens.

The only people who use drugs are those who do drugs. Legal drugs would cripple the world economy and wall street. Illegal drugs keeps wall street afloat. I believe that only oil surpasses the money gained from illegal drugs.
It is a huge muti billion $$ per year industry and it is now used to enslave those in the justice system. Prsion labor is on the rise, and what a better inmate than those on pot, heroin, coke, etc etc>? a few months clean and they make great corporate slaves. Privatized prisons baby. Bye Bye miss american pie

dai*ma Outlaw greed, the lust for power, and the need to control others. Those are the dangerous folks:thumbsup:

mont974x4
03-20-2006, 04:07 PM
If it's natural, legalize it and handle it like alcohol. If it's manmade, like meth, then decrimalize it and leave it alone. Then enforce DUI laws. I don't have an issue with people using these substances but do it responsibly and in private. If you use and drive you put others at risk...just like with alcohol.

It is not the governments responsibility to educate us. If we want to do stupid things then so be it...so long as we don't endanger anyone else or infringe on their rights.

dirty raider
03-20-2006, 08:59 PM
I've got mixed feeling about this.

Firstly obviously some things like cannabis should be legalised however things like crack, meth etc. I'd have to have a good think about and even then I don't think I'd know the answer.

One the hand I feel that people should have the right to put any substance they want into their own bodies good or bad, and legalisation would bring about alot more revenue for the government to spend money on things like policeing and better education especially on things like drugs.

However legalisation would probably bring about a massive increase in the usage of hard drugs which may lead to crime and almost certainly health issue and/or personal problems especially involving family.

The question is should someone be allowed to make thier own mistakes or should they be prevented from having the choice.

netdog69
03-20-2006, 09:13 PM
This is why you vote Libertarian.... Take the test
http://www.self-gov.org/quiz.html

higher4hockey
03-20-2006, 10:35 PM
daima~ this is true that it would change the economy. but you can't tell me that legalizing all drugs wouldn't create problems! Think about it , a lot of people don't do drugs just because they are illegal. If they suddenly became legal, what do they have to lose.

daima
03-20-2006, 11:32 PM
daima~ this is true that it would change the economy. but you can't tell me that legalizing all drugs wouldn't create problems! Think about it , a lot of people don't do drugs just because they are illegal. If they suddenly became legal, what do they have to lose.
alot of people dont do drugs because they are illegal?yeah, And?
It's addiction, not availablity, that leads one to drug abuse.
I say that we allow people to choose their own destiny. When those who get high decide to stop? Let's help them.
If they dont decide to stop? Let us as a civilized society make sure that they have safe, clean access to drugs that are made/prepared as safely as possible. This is about safety, isnt it? Let us make sure that the Heroin that Heroin Addicts use is safe as possible. Or that crack, meth, etc etc. Let us build clinics instead of prisons.
Thats my opinion and i honestly believe that everybody is entitled to it.
Here in America cant have it both ways.
We are either free, or we are drug free.:D

dai*ma:stoned:

daima
03-20-2006, 11:35 PM
daima~ this is true that it would change the economy. but you can't tell me that legalizing all drugs wouldn't create problems! Think about it , a lot of people don't do drugs just because they are illegal. If they suddenly became legal, what do they have to lose.
I apologise for forgetting to answer your last question> :confused:
What does one have to lose if drugs were legal? The same things they have to lose with them being illegal, except we wouldnt treat them as criminals and cage them.. We would treat them with love and respect and make sure that we are there to help them when they are ready to change. We dont have to criminalize them because they are sick..., do we?

dai*ma:stoned:

Jeff Spicoli
03-21-2006, 02:06 AM
lol drug users

daima
03-21-2006, 02:12 AM
Rape for everyone!! :thumbsup:
Rape isnt a substance. Rape is about control and power and sex.
dai*ma:confused:

Fabolous
03-21-2006, 04:52 AM
i reckon most drugs should be legal. Except heroin. I think policing in our country is so bogged down with gun related drug offences. I think that legalising drugs would save a lot of gun crime.
cheers

Why not Crack, Coke and any other harder druge? lol what makes heroin so speical to be the only one to be "Except"?

halo
03-21-2006, 05:42 AM
I think if you legalize cannabis other drugs must be legal as well. For '"addictive drugs" Like coke, meth, and heroin. Those should simply be decriminalized IMO. Also i believe whatever punishment for coke should be equal to the punishment for crack. Crack is so easy to make from coke that there is virtually no way to enforce laws harder for crack than coke. If someone wants to smoke crack than they would simply make it from the coke. And meth IMO should be completely illegal because unlike the other drugs where they pretty much only affect the user (physically), they say that in meth labs the fumes from the batch of meth could easily kill or harm someone if accidentally inhaled.

eddievanzant
03-21-2006, 06:22 AM
Drugs are just one of many things keeping the poor poor. I'm not going to refuse a drug because it's illegal, but legalization is just blatant oppression.

netdog69
03-21-2006, 12:29 PM
What is fucked up is when you can walk down the street in and get caught with and ounce of coke and get 30 years but you can kill your own 5 month old baby and only get probation. This happen in atlanta. When you can go to jail longer for none violent than you can for a violent crime that is Fucked up. But we also keep sending the same S.O.B's back into office...

MullManiac
03-21-2006, 12:36 PM
technically speaking I think that all substances should be legal. there should not be any laws that restrict the actions of anyone. the problem with this is that for the most part people are stupid. the global society that we live in is not mature enough to lift all restrictions on it's people. can drugs cause serious harm? yes. should anything that can cause harm be illegal? F*ck no.

drugs should be legal, but people should also be responsible when using them. so until people can be responsible, there need to be certain restrictions.

You took the words right out of my mouth!

daima
03-21-2006, 02:25 PM
Drugs are just one of many things keeping the poor poor. I'm not going to refuse a drug because it's illegal, but legalization is just blatant oppression.
Nobody suffers like the poor people suffer:D

dai*ma:stoned:

Oneironaut
03-21-2006, 02:49 PM
As an anarchist, my position on this should be obvious. I think all drugs should be completely legal, including heroin and crystal meth. Quite frankly, I'm surprised at how many pot users actually support prohibition.

First of all, we have to realize that tons of people really love to get high. There is no way around that. As long as people enjoy experimenting with states of consciousness, there will be people making these drugs and consuming them, regardless of what the law says. Drug laws are useless, since non-users don't need to be coerced into not doing what they're not going to do anyways, and drug users just don't care what the law says.

To think that you can actually rid the world of these substances (for example by making the coca plant extinct) is extremely naïve. Even if it were a desirable goal to render a species extinct, it could never be done. The government has been trying hard for decades but there are too many millions of users who are very interested in keeping these plants alive.

Thus there are two options for society. Either we keep these substances circulating in a black market (where the only means of resolving conflicts is violence), or we open them up to markets under the scrutiny of the public. We can either let drug addicts rot their lives away in shadowy alleys, or we can arrange it so that they can freely admit to everybody that they have a problem without being kidnapped and kept in a cage. We can either educate them on the safest ways to take their drugs and dispense heroin in sanitary needles, or we can banish them from mainstream society and let them get AIDS. At the same time, we can educate the public on the relative dangers of the drugs instead of just branding all illegal drugs as just evil, wicked products of Satan, and anybody who wants to avoid those dangers will freely choose to do that. What option do you think is going to cause the most harm?

Oneironaut
03-21-2006, 04:32 PM
http://www.pot-tv.net/archive/shows/pottvshowse-2705.html

Every victim of the War on Drugs should watch that video. In it, Penn and Teller entertainingly show how all drug prohibition is bullshit.

Lily420
03-21-2006, 04:57 PM
:smokin: LEGALIZATION! OF WEED! Why the fuck do you need anything else? I am all for it and any other drug doesent compair. Not to this lady. Nope.

Theduderino
03-21-2006, 05:23 PM
Should drugs be legalized?

In a way, yes and no. Depends on the substance. But I do believe in the true American way of life and that is simply freedom - wish Bush understood that too :P. There are many substances that I don't like, and I'll never try them. But it's because I've done my research and found out what they are and what they contain. Unfortunately, during school, all one hears is drugs are bad and they kill you. If they were to actually teach what each drug is, what they do, how it affects ya, and keep a neutral view on it, I believe less people would be doing the nasty stuff.

Should cannabis be legal? Hell yea it should be! This world has no right to say that cannabis is illegal while smoking cigs. which is, by far, more dangerous, since they contain only a small amount of tobacco and a ton of crap. Some know the only reason cannabis is illegal because it can be an expensive investment for the government. Imagine, cannabis is legal - no more $60 an 1/8 crap, since everyone can grow it at home, like any other plant. Also there would be less of a chance for someone to accidently get some other substance that could kill them, or injure them.

Should other drugs be legal? Well imagine this: if all drugs were legal, the chances of getting an unknown substance is less since it'll probably be available like any other drug in the pharmacy (which by FDA standards has to be pure). It's funny how individuals tell us that the over-the-counter drugs are different. They're not! I've seen so many people taking Xanax, which is some scary stuff, or individuals living off Advil everyday. If advil or xanax was illegal, these people would be looked upon as drug addicts, lol.

As I mentioned before, we're in a free country, although it isn't really practiced as much anymore with the stupid pointless war going on, so if someone chooses to take drugs, it's their life, their choice. At least if it was legal, they'll be getting a pure version and not some poison on the street. Also by drugs being legal, it'll destroy the black-market since it'll be available to all - therefore cheaper. Teach your children what they are and what they do and they'll say no not because they were taught to say no, but because they know why to say no. So, yes drugs should be all be legal, I'll bet that many will quit because some do like to get drugs for the thrill of getting something that's not allowed.

Alcohol is a drug. Doesn't mean everyone is an alcoholic, just those idiots who over do it all the time. It's the same for drugs. Now certain drugs that form addiction right away, I'm sure you all can guess which ones - including many prescriptions and over-the-counters, they should be banned or at least regulated to prevent addictions. But if they were legal, it'll be the pharmact to regulate them and not some black market jerk who regulates by cutting your (imagine) off. At least that is my two cents.

The Duderino

Oneironaut
03-21-2006, 06:01 PM
:smokin: LEGALIZATION! OF WEED! Why the fuck do you need anything else? I am all for it and any other drug doesent compair. Not to this lady. Nope.
It's not about what I need. I'm all about the weed, nothing else for me. I just have a big problem with the government spending my money to lock people up for victimless crimes like drug use and prostitution. Why should a drug be illegal? Drug addicts don't get cured in prisons. They get violent and angry and then they're released on the streets again. These people are sick, not criminals. Hospitals, not prisons.

orangeman
03-21-2006, 06:27 PM
I think drugs that are well known to lead to addiction and overdose should not be legal such as cocaine and heroin and all that other shit. Shrooms, weed and acid just to name a few on the other hand should be legalized. The only way I think cocaine and stuff like that should be legalized is if it's proven to act faster (as a number) as a anesthetic when your in the E.R. faster than some of the legal anesthetics will.

ShWeave
03-21-2006, 09:03 PM
First of all...All drugs can't be legal. Marijuana is the only other drug that isn't legal that should be legal. Everything else is to easy to abuse, people would be tripping balls and try to drive to McDonalds. Dont try to tell me that they wont because people are retarded and someone will.

Its just dumb to even say that drugs that can make you flip out and think everyone is agaisnt you and you end up killing someone.......it would defiantly happen. I agree that people should be able to take whatever they want, whenever they want but some people wouldnt be able to handle it, and then when someone dies for the reason i said earlier people would realize and be like "fuck, we made a mistake" and then they would make everything illegal and then crime would rocket.......etc it would just keep happenig like that

drinksmokesleep
03-21-2006, 09:07 PM
all drugs no exceptions shoulde be legal
Heavy regulations for what we call class a's now eg heroin coke wot not
but nothing is made safer including heroin
by keeping it illegal
just my opinion

EbelEyes
03-21-2006, 10:42 PM
As an anarchist, my position on this should be obvious. I think all drugs should be completely legal, including heroin and crystal meth. Quite frankly, I'm surprised at how many pot users actually support prohibition.

First of all, we have to realize that tons of people really love to get high. There is no way around that. As long as people enjoy experimenting with states of consciousness, there will be people making these drugs and consuming them, regardless of what the law says. Drug laws are useless, since non-users don't need to be coerced into not doing what they're not going to do anyways, and drug users just don't care what the law says.

To think that you can actually rid the world of these substances (for example by making the coca plant extinct) is extremely naïve. Even if it were a desirable goal to render a species extinct, it could never be done. The government has been trying hard for decades but there are too many millions of users who are very interested in keeping these plants alive.

Thus there are two options for society. Either we keep these substances circulating in a black market (where the only means of resolving conflicts is violence), or we open them up to markets under the scrutiny of the public. We can either let drug addicts rot their lives away in shadowy alleys, or we can arrange it so that they can freely admit to everybody that they have a problem without being kidnapped and kept in a cage. We can either educate them on the safest ways to take their drugs and dispense heroin in sanitary needles, or we can banish them from mainstream society and let them get AIDS. At the same time, we can educate the public on the relative dangers of the drugs instead of just branding all illegal drugs as just evil, wicked products of Satan, and anybody who wants to avoid those dangers will freely choose to do that. What option do you think is going to cause the most harm?

:thumbsup: I agree. :thumbsup:

I read a quote somewhere, don't remember who it was, but it said "If drug addiction is a disease, then the Drug War is a crime." I agree with that statement.

If we think that people who are addicted to drugs have a disease, then how the fuck is putting them into prisons going to solve anything?

I think that everything should be legal, from good old Mary Jane all the way up to Heroin. Its your body, it should be your choice. If you want to take Heroin, then thats your choice (there should be some educating about hard drugs, and not bullshit Freevibe, above the influence, and dare).

Oneironaut
03-21-2006, 11:18 PM
First of all...All drugs can't be legal. Marijuana is the only other drug that isn't legal that should be legal. Everything else is to easy to abuse, people would be tripping balls and try to drive to McDonalds. Dont try to tell me that they wont because people are retarded and someone will.
You think drug users don't drive under the influence anyways? They do it now, and they'd do it even if the drugs were legal but driving while tripping was still not tolerated. Criminals don't care about the law. That's why they're criminals.

Personally, I think we need to abandon the automobile system of transportation and focus on making high-tech public transportation systems that are less deadly and more efficient. But as long as we still rely on cars, no amount of legislation is going to stop idiots from doing stupid things. Just look at how many people drink and drive. Are you really suggesting that alcohol should be made illegal, and that alcohol prohibition would decrease the number of drunk drivers? You did say that marijuana is the only drug that should be legal. So that means making illegal things like alcohol, tobacco, caffeine, cough syrup, opium-derived painkillers, and other mind-altering drugs.

eGGNoG
03-21-2006, 11:54 PM
Mary jane and shrooms, legalize.

eGGNoG
03-22-2006, 12:00 AM
America the "Free" Country? Last time i checked i think we have more fuckin laws then any one else.. and theres 11 people runnign this country, not us.

suhl
03-22-2006, 01:03 AM
if they were all legalized, why would you exclude heroine it is less addictive than nicotine, and far less addictive than coke. in fact alcohol is more addictive than heroine. dont believe me look it up. if i ever get the opportunity to do heroine im jumping on it. i used to say no, but now i say make them all legal to 18 year olds, by then you should be smart enough to be able to know how to recreationally use a drug, and if youre not, good riddance. and if was found giving hard shit to kids, severe punishment must be inflicted.

suhl
03-22-2006, 01:12 AM
actually i just looked it up again, it is considered as addictive as nicotine. nonetheless i will blame the person not the drug in 90% of cases. unless someone physically restrains you and forces you to do a drug, it is your choice. i dont believe in peer pressure, but i do believe in weak willed pussies trying to fit in

Oneironaut
03-22-2006, 01:19 AM
Why only 90%? I doubt 10% are cases where somebody was forced to take the drug against their will. If you consciously do a drug, you are responsible for all your behavior while on the drug. End of story.

eddievanzant
03-22-2006, 01:30 AM
I hear about people getting ten plus years for what seems to be no crime at all, but I'm just having a hard time believing it.

daima
03-22-2006, 06:59 PM
First of all...All drugs can't be legal. Marijuana is the only other drug that isn't legal that should be legal. Everything else is to easy to abuse, people would be tripping balls and try to drive to McDonalds. Dont try to tell me that they wont because people are retarded and someone will.

Its just dumb to even say that drugs that can make you flip out and think everyone is agaisnt you and you end up killing someone.......it would defiantly happen. I agree that people should be able to take whatever they want, whenever they want but some people wouldnt be able to handle it, and then when someone dies for the reason i said earlier people would realize and be like "fuck, we made a mistake" and then they would make everything illegal and then crime would rocket.......etc it would just keep happenig like that
Caffeine kills more americans every year that illegal drugs do. We feed it to our kids(not me), its in soda pop, etc etc. Illegal drugs wouldnt kill the number of people they do kill(about 3400 per year), if they were legal, and the supply to our addicted brothers and sisters were made safely.
Education is the answer. And the freedom to have open discussions without those who are against the phoney war on drugs be targeted as"druggie defenders", and have that spill over into our childrens lives/edication.
An example of that would be.."did you hear about dai*ma? he is for legalizing drugs, we better go save his family from him and his liberal drug friends" and th cops show up, the DARE program is interviewing my kids, etc etc. It's a witch hunt. Dont buy into it.:thumbsup:

dai*ma

Lily420
03-22-2006, 07:11 PM
Legalize it, don't criticize it.
Legalize it, and I will advertize it.

:D -SUBLIME

kbrbudhead
03-22-2006, 07:37 PM
Frank Zappa, someone who didnt use drugs but supported legalization tells it like this;

"Tax the churches; make them pay their way; Legalize all drugs and tax them, legalize prostitution and tax that, legalize gambling and tax that. Now if that isnt an answer to the national debt i dont know what is"
Heres my take on it.

Legalize all drugs, since marijuana is the least harmful and most helpful make it available like alcohol and tobacco are today. Sell it in gas stations, conveinence stores, walmart etc. Of course, the age restrictions and limitations would be imposed because this is america and even though you can be 17 and join the army you cant be 18 to get a drink. So the age limit should be 19 IMO.
As for other drugs I would legalize crack/cocaine and heroin and meth only for doctor perscription in controlled amounts. Reducing the doses would most likely be effective in weening addicts from these drugs. Psychoactives like acid shrooms and mescaline should be legalized but sold strictly in designated shops. Sell it in head shops but instead of having the "waterpipe" section off limits put that out front since grass would be legal and make the limited section for the psychoactives.

Also i beleive that if marjuana is legalized that the number of alcoholics and tobacco users will drop considerably because something far better will be available. I only drink beer when im out of weed. I hate drinking. I did it alot when i was in high school but when i hit 20-21 i had maybe a beer or two a month.

PLUS, we all know how well the new taxing will take care of the current deficit. If we legalize marijuana completely, in every state by 2009, the deficit will be almost eliminated by the following year. The reason I say the following year is because there are a LOT of potheads in america. Pot is great!

Having said that, damn i wish i had some! anyone close to florence alabama got anything good? lemme know! lol
peace

daima
03-22-2006, 10:02 PM
Frank Zappa, someone who didnt use drugs but supported legalization tells it like this;

"Tax the churches; make them pay their way; Legalize all drugs and tax them, legalize prostitution and tax that, legalize gambling and tax that. Now if that isnt an answer to the national debt i dont know what is"
Heres my take on it.

Legalize all drugs, since marijuana is the least harmful and most helpful make it available like alcohol and tobacco are today. Sell it in gas stations, conveinence stores, walmart etc. Of course, the age restrictions and limitations would be imposed because this is america and even though you can be 17 and join the army you cant be 18 to get a drink. So the age limit should be 19 IMO.
As for other drugs I would legalize crack/cocaine and heroin and meth only for doctor perscription in controlled amounts. Reducing the doses would most likely be effective in weening addicts from these drugs. Psychoactives like acid shrooms and mescaline should be legalized but sold strictly in designated shops. Sell it in head shops but instead of having the "waterpipe" section off limits put that out front since grass would be legal and make the limited section for the psychoactives.

Also i beleive that if marjuana is legalized that the number of alcoholics and tobacco users will drop considerably because something far better will be available. I only drink beer when im out of weed. I hate drinking. I did it alot when i was in high school but when i hit 20-21 i had maybe a beer or two a month.

PLUS, we all know how well the new taxing will take care of the current deficit. If we legalize marijuana completely, in every state by 2009, the deficit will be almost eliminated by the following year. The reason I say the following year is because there are a LOT of potheads in america. Pot is great!

Having said that, damn i wish i had some! anyone close to florence alabama got anything good? lemme know! lol
peace

R.I.P. Frank, and thanks for years of great music.

dai*ma :stoned:

Smokey McPot
03-23-2006, 03:59 AM
Hell no!!!!!!! that would be the worst idea ever. Only weed should be legal. If they were legalized you would prob have like a 1-10 chance of getting killed by some crack head behind the wheel or somthin. Everybody would be doing drugs like it was goin out of style.

Oneironaut
03-23-2006, 04:10 AM
Umm, how does making the fruit forbidden make drug addictions go away? You assume that making drugs legal would be associated with a statistical increase in the number of drug addicts. However, if you actually got off your ass and did your homework, you'd find that drug use goes up when drugs are outlawed! Making the fruit forbidden makes it more tempting.

Throwing drug users in prisons is not as effective as actually treating them like human beings and helping them with their problem. In fact, throwing drug users in prison with a bunch of violent criminals just makes them really violent and angry, which means they're more likely to shoot you when they get back on the streets!

When you make drugs illegal, you don't get rid of them. You just confine them to a black market, where the only way to resolve conflicts is violence. That's why drug users are so often violent criminals. Because they're involved with a black market out of necessity.

Naamah
03-23-2006, 05:48 AM
I think all drugs should be made legal but to be able to partake in some of the harder ones you should have to do it in a controlled enviorment. The best thing this country could do is end the joke that is the war on drugs, make em legal and tax them to fucking death.

Naamah
03-23-2006, 05:50 AM
MrDevious, I completely agree with your entire system. Marijuana should be legal, but meth and heroin and such should most definitely remain illegal. They are awful for you and almost guarantee a negative shift in ones life. People who try drugs beyond hallucinagins need to have more respect for their bodies.


Is it not a tad hypocritical for someone who smokes weed to judge others based on their drug of choice? :(

kbrbudhead
03-23-2006, 06:08 AM
Hell no!!!!!!! that would be the worst idea ever. Only weed should be legal. If they were legalized you would prob have like a 1-10 chance of getting killed by some crack head behind the wheel or somthin. Everybody would be doing drugs like it was goin out of style.
Smokey, theyre already doing similar things in europe with heroin addicts i believe. instead of pumping them full of another addictive substance, methadone, they give them controlled amounts which eventually weens them off of it. but in order for them to be in the program they have to meet certain requirements- i.e. having a job, paying your bills on time. basically a stable recovering junky. The ones who still use illegally outside of the controlled program would obviously be treated as an offender but hit with something other than jail time- a chance to get into the program to become less and less dependant. But only a three strikes and youre out kinda thing. Then if you still use illegally then its time to break out the paddywagon. I beleive it would work, but for obvious reasons it probably wouldnt get off the ground here in the states. Its a damn shame. Ive got friends who were and still are addicted to oxycontins and shit like that and they say the methadone is harder to come off of than the pills.

But for the most part i still stand by complete legalization of ganjia. Mark my word; Make it readily available in different kickass varieties, tax it and the deficit would be history in one year- at the most a year and a half. It's logical. First nevada then the rest of the country. I still think alabama would be dead last in completely legalizing the herb. Too many conservative christians think theyre right. Dont get me started on them. I know too many of them. Ive had to interact waaaaaaaaaaayyyy too much with those types. Makes me uneasy about being an alabamian to tell you the honest truth.

Peacelovehappinessandallthatotherbullshit

kbrbudhead
03-23-2006, 06:14 AM
R.I.P. Frank, and thanks for years of great music.

dai*ma :stoned:
Yessir frank is the man. One of my biggest influences as far as playing goes. Right up there with hendrix. Gosh if only FRANK was around to set this whole big bunch of shit straight. I think he would be our president! Then we really wouldnt have shit to worry about.

Just a little tid bit, i have to tell everyone- i just got an awesome compilation dvd that has a clip from an american talkshow from 1967 where frank was a musical guest. The first song "performed" was "suzy creamcheese". They had to panomime the instruments and vocals so instead of singing the actual lyrics you can clearly see frank mouthing "motherfucker" OVER AND OVER AND OVER again. its damn priceless. Never again will the genius be matched.:rasta:

daima
03-23-2006, 08:55 PM
Umm, how does making the fruit forbidden make drug addictions go away? You assume that making drugs legal would be associated with a statistical increase in the number of drug addicts. However, if you actually got off your ass and did your homework, you'd find that drug use goes up when drugs are outlawed! Making the fruit forbidden makes it more tempting.

Throwing drug users in prisons is not as effective as actually treating them like human beings and helping them with their problem. In fact, throwing drug users in prison with a bunch of violent criminals just makes them really violent and angry, which means they're more likely to shoot you when they get back on the streets!

When you make drugs illegal, you don't get rid of them. You just confine them to a black market, where the only way to resolve conflicts is violence. That's why drug users are so often violent criminals. Because they're involved with a black market out of necessity.

Spoken like an intelligent human being :thumbsup:

dai*ma:stoned:

daima
03-23-2006, 09:01 PM
Yessir frank is the man. One of my biggest influences as far as playing goes. Right up there with hendrix. Gosh if only FRANK was around to set this whole big bunch of shit straight. I think he would be our president! Then we really wouldnt have shit to worry about.

Just a little tid bit, i have to tell everyone- i just got an awesome compilation dvd that has a clip from an american talkshow from 1967 where frank was a musical guest. The first song "performed" was "suzy creamcheese". They had to panomime the instruments and vocals so instead of singing the actual lyrics you can clearly see frank mouthing "motherfucker" OVER AND OVER AND OVER again. its damn priceless. Never again will the genius be matched.:rasta:

Your feelings towrds Frank are the same feelings i Have towards Jerry Garcia
Great musicans stir emotions, and they were both great musicians:thumbsup:

dai*ma
Sugar Magnolias
Blossoms blooming
Heads all empty and i dont care
I saw my baby down by the river
I knew she'd have to come up soon for air
Fucking sweet lyrics:dance:

She come screaming through rays of violet
She can wade in a drop of dew
She dont come and i dont follow
She waits back stage while i sing for you...sweet:thumbsup:

She's got everything delightful
She's got everything i need
She takes the wheel when i'm see'in double
She pays my ticket when i speed:D