Real Shotguns

[DirkZooDiggler]

I was watching something on tv about Vietnam and in one of the scenes it showed the soldiers taking a hit of green from a shotgun. Now I knew that this was where the term "shotgunning" came from...but I had no idea how cool it looked. I'm just curious...is this something that people still do? Because I wanna get a shotgun just to do this. :thumbsup:

[orangeman]

Probably warheads and old veterans still do this xD.

[Nochowderforyou]

Like, from a real shotgun?

EDIT: Nevermind, the title answered my question. Duh! Sounds interesting though.

[fkd1]

video of shotgunning in vietnam http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3297175098751129422&q=marijuana+vietnam

[Nochowderforyou]

video of shotgunning in vietnam http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3297175098751129422&q=marijuana+vietnam

Thanks for that video. :thumbsup:

That was amazing looking! I want to try that now for some reason. Having a gun barrel in your mouth that gets you stoned is a creepy way of smoking. I like it!

[tadaa]

And you wonder why there are so many accidental gun deaths. Those idiots shouldnt' even be called soldiers. It's poor handling and improper use of a firearm for no reason at all.

I mean honestly, how many idiots do you need in 1 room to come up with an idea that stupid. It's so stupid that 1 or 2 idiots couldn't even be that dumb. I guess that's why there's a group of them. I mean how does that even come about? "hey guys, I have a GREAT idea, lets put a shotgun in our mouths so we can smoke out of it".

[tadaa]

Thanks for that video. :thumbsup:

That was amazing looking! I want to try that now for some reason.


I HIGHLY recommend you try it. See there was this guy named Darwin who had a little thing called natural selection. If you try it and something goes wrong, you will be doing the gene pool in this country a great favor.

[Nochowderforyou]

Man, they discharge all of the ammo from the shotgun before they use it. They don't put a loaded shotgun in there mouths with a shell in there. Maybe watch the video first, then comment.

[tadaa]

Man, they discharge all of the ammo from the shotgun before they use it. They don't put a loaded shotgun in there mouths with a shell in there. Maybe watch the video first, then comment.

No shit you fucking dumb ass. Do you think people shoot someone accidentally with a gun they KNEW was loaded? All accidental gun deaths are caused by people who THINK the gun wasn't loaded.

You do realize that guns do jam, right? And it's very possible for a shell to be stuck inside the chamber.

If you had any common sense, which you clearly don't, you would have realized that I obviously watched the video based on my comments.

[rhino44]

Well regardless the gun cant fire with the breech open like that. With that said, I dont agree with sticking gun barrels in your mouth for any reason. Especially while everybody is all stoned and laughing. It is dumb but fuckit I guess they felt comfortable enough with each other. They had probly saved each others lives and totally trusted one another. I guess thats how some of them coped with the stress but I think id rather be completely sober. I know I would feel more comfortable in a combat situation if I was.

[tadaa]

Well regardless the gun cant fire with the breech open like that.

It sure can during a malfunction. I use to have a old winchester 1200 that my grandpa gave me that had been broke and it fired in this manner.

I mean this is fucking common sense people. There are thousands of accidental gun deaths in this country, so obviously shit goes wrong.

[Zentetsuken]

No shit you fucking dumb ass. Do you think people shoot someone accidentally with a gun they KNEW was loaded? All accidental gun deaths are caused by people who THINK the gun wasn't loaded.

You do realize that guns do jam, right? And it's very possible for a shell to be stuck inside the chamber.

If you had any common sense, which you clearly don't, you would have realized that I obviously watched the video based on my comments.



I love the hostility from people in these forums. It's awesome. Awesome.

I personally have my PAL (firearms possesion and acquisition licence) and I own a shotgun as well. In order to go to war you need to endure military training where you properly learn how to check for jammed cartriges and loaded barrels. To get a PAL you also have to go through a testing and education process.

While sticking a gun in your mouth is a bad idea, the fact that you're getting so insulted and worked up about this is kind of pointless, don't you think? I mean, they're just having fun, it's a gimmick, I'm sure they've done it a million times. It's not the safest idea, but if you make sure the gun is empty beforehand you have the same amount of danger smoking out of a regular pipe. It's very possible that you could get so high that you completely miss your lips with the pipe and stick it right in your eye.

[tadaa]

I love the hostility from people in these forums. It's awesome. Awesome.

I personally have my PAL (firearms possesion and acquisition licence) and I own a shotgun as well. In order to go to war you need to endure military training where you properly learn how to check for jammed cartriges and loaded barrels. To get a PAL you also have to go through a testing and education process.

While sticking a gun in your mouth is a bad idea, the fact that you're getting so insulted and worked up about this is kind of pointless, don't you think? I mean, they're just having fun, it's a gimmick, I'm sure they've done it a million times. It's not the safest idea, but if you make sure the gun is empty beforehand you have the same amount of danger smoking out of a regular pipe. It's very possible that you could get so high that you completely miss your lips with the pipe and stick it right in your eye.

The point is that there's no reason to take the risk. Sticking a gun in your mouth is idiotic no matter how you slice it. If you don't agree with that then there's something wrong with you.

[enthused]

You're just afraid to die.

Edit: And another thing, who decided whats normal and whats not? Why should anyone deny themselves something they enjoy. There is nothing wrong with us

[tadaa]

You're just afraid to die.

Edit: And another thing, who decided whats normal and whats not? Why should anyone deny themselves something they enjoy. There is nothing wrong with us

I would certainly hope I'm afraid to die. Are you fucking suicidal or something? If man wasn't afraid to die we would have died off thousands of years ago.

I don't know about you, but I'm actually happy with my life. If you dont' care if you live or die I suggest you go see a shrink and get on some anti depressants.

[enthused]

Just because I am not afraid to die does not mean I WANT to die. I am very pleased and happy with my life, but why fear something that leads me into infinite beauty. My time will come when it comes, not worried at all about it. Going to enjoy my stay on earth, not be afraid of it. If what I believe happens after death comes true, gravy. If not, so be it. No worries :thumbsup:

Open minds are way cool!

[tadaa]

Just because I am not afraid to die does not mean I WANT to die. I am very pleased and happy with my life, but why fear something that leads me into infinite beauty. My time will come when it comes, not worried at all about it. Going to enjoy my stay on earth, not be afraid of it. If what I believe happens after death comes true, gravy. If not, so be it. No worries :thumbsup:

Open minds are way cool!

What you believe really has no relevance to what the truth is. You can believe all you want, that doesn't make it true. Nobody knows what happens after death, there's a very good possibility that nothing at all will happen, and there's a boat load of scientific evidence to support evolution, in which case we would simply just die. So if that's the truth, I would suggest you should think twice before saying that you're not afraid to die.

[hellomandude]

tadaa is bein real the rest of u....

i dont even have anything to say

[eddievanzant]

Dude what the hell tadaa don't be an asshole for no reason. You may have your views but insulting someone is just mean. They're taught how to make sure a gun isn't loaded and if they accidently blow their heads off (which would happen. There's no bullets in and they don't even have their hands on the trigger), at least they were high!

[hellomandude]

And you wonder why there are so many accidental gun deaths. Those idiots shouldnt' even be called soldiers. It's poor handling and improper use of a firearm for no reason at all.

I mean honestly, how many idiots do you need in 1 room to come up with an idea that stupid. It's so stupid that 1 or 2 idiots couldn't even be that dumb. I guess that's why there's a group of them. I mean how does that even come about? "hey guys, I have a GREAT idea, lets put a shotgun in our mouths so we can smoke out of it".

eddie, cmon man

tell me his original post wasnt feasable

[eddievanzant]

I understand his view but he uses words like idiot, idiotic, no shit, and dumbass too much. He can get his point across a better way. It's a terrible idea to put a gun in your mouth if you're not properly trained to use one. These people are soldiers and I trust their judgement. Tadaa doesn't trust them.


(which would happen. There's no bullets in and they don't even have their hands on the trigger), at least they were high!
I meant to say "wouldn't happen."

[enthused]

Tadaa - You are simply brilliant! You are absolutely correct! Hence why I said, "If what I believe happens after death comes true, gravy. If not, so be it. No worries"

If nothing happens after death, I still have no worries. It's whatever.

This doesn't mean I am depressed or suicidal, I am very happy to be on earth with the incredible sensations that we have. But its not like im going to be "well shit..guess I died..." once I bite the dust. Guess that could possibly happen though. Anythings possible with death right ;) Thats the truth right there.

Not afraid, never will be.

[JunkYard]

I understand his view but he uses words like idiot, idiotic, no shit, and dumbass too much. He can get his point across a better way. It's a terrible idea to put a gun in your mouth if you're not properly trained to use one. These people are soldiers and I trust their judgement. Tadaa doesn't trust them.


I meant to say "wouldn't happen."

First, if they claim to be 'properly' trained, then they would already 'know' it was a dumb idea. These people simply aren't using good judgement when they stick a barrell of a gun between their lips.

Tadaa doesn't trust the 'gun'. It has nothing to do with trusting the soldier.

Correct me if I'm wrong, tadaa!

[king kong bong]

watch the movie "NARC" with ray liotta and jason patric...

[hellomandude]

i only have one more thing to say regarding this matter

getting loaded + putting gun barrels in your mouth = not a good idea overall

[Boner4Buds]

well if they were in vietnam i dont think they really gave a flyin fack, i know i wouldnt

if you dont know how to clear a chamber then you shouldnt have the gun in your hands in the first place, plain and simple

if i had a shotgun like that lying around i sure would do it, if i blew my head off well it would be my own fault and fate took its course on another dumbfuck. Atleast the death wouldnt be painful

[dopesmoker]

tadaa- you make me laugh my ass off whenver i read your posts. (laughing at you not with you)

rest of the posts- looks amazing and i'd wanna try it but i dont really trust having a weapon in my mouth, even if its unloaded

[Boner4Buds]

gun accidents dont happen, people happen

[Nikita123]

well if they were in vietnam i dont think they really gave a flyin fack, i know i wouldnt

if you dont know how to clear a chamber then you shouldnt have the gun in your hands in the first place, plain and simple

if i had a shotgun like that lying around i sure would do it, if i blew my head off well it would be my own fault and fate took its course on another dumbfuck. Atleast the death wouldnt be painful

Let me tell you something guys........Those guys were in Vietnam.......It was fucking hell! They were in war! Things were so fucked up. they couldn't tell the enemy from those that they were protecting. Marijuana should be standard government issue. At least the soldiers would be able to find peace for a short period of time.......and P.S. gentlemen, soldiers know how to correctly clear their weapons. :rasta:

[Jeff Spicoli]

ok you fuckin ass, where is the risk when there is no bullets in the god damn gun?

[Boner4Buds]

hey you dont gotta get hostile over some stupid shit just cause you think someone might take you more seriously. You could have left out fuckin ass and you probably would get a more respectable answer. Chill out

there is no risk but most of the people here either A.) Dont know how to properly handle a firearm OR B.) are a bunch of pussies

I actually find this shotgun thing neat and would do it myself if i had a shotgun that i could do it out of. Dont know how to handle a gun? no problem, then dont touch one....

[Boner4Buds]

No shit you fucking dumb ass. Do you think people shoot someone accidentally with a gun they KNEW was loaded? All accidental gun deaths are caused by people who THINK the gun wasn't loaded.

You do realize that guns do jam, right? And it's very possible for a shell to be stuck inside the chamber.

If you had any common sense, which you clearly don't, you would have realized that I obviously watched the video based on my comments.

do us all a favor and shut your trap

If you had any common sense, which you clearly dont, you would have realized that clearing a jammed round is simple and easy to spot, unlike you i have done this many times and id have to say these soldiers know what the fuck they are doing and you my good sir are just spewing shit outta your mouth at random, shut the fuck up ok?

You are fucking clown shoes

[Adam01]

Yeah, it's Vietnam. Hello people. The soldiers were driven to do way more fucked up things than smoke pot out of a shotgun. Not only that, but did anyone stop to consider that it's just as dangerous going to war while stoned? When you know that you will be handling a loaded firearm and there will be people shooting at you and trying to kill you? When you are in such a fucked up situation, you try to find ways to forget and entertain yourself. I personally wouldn't do this, but the fact that these guys did it doesn't bother me a bit.

[tadaa]

ok you fuckin ass, where is the risk when there is no bullets in the god damn gun?

There's about 900 accidental gun deaths each year in the U.S

Every single one of them thought the gun wasn't loaded.

[geonagual]

I am sure those guys knew how to clear that shotgun. That thing has been attached to his body for about a year. So he knows it inside and out. You can also see him clearing it and everyone is watching him do it in the video.

What a cool way to give multiple hits?
I wonder what kind of weed they were smoking?

There would be no better way to go into battle than to be stoned.:smokin:
OOOooooooooRaaaahhhhhhhh!!!!!

[briman]

i agree with many people here they knew how to clear gun barrels they were just trying to get rid of the crap thatw as going through there heads about the war i PERSONALY wouldnt like to do it 1:cus i do not have any knowledge of guns and 2:cus i would have no chance of being able to clear a gun because i have never once handeled one but for the people on here who want to try it if you ever have the chance report to us about it i would like to know how it went but i do not recomend anyone doing this if they have no knowledge of guns

[DirkZooDiggler]

I made up my mind....I'm getting a shotgun

[DirkZooDiggler]

By the way fkd...that was the video I was talking about. Good Job.

[hellomandude]

lol

like i said

getting loaded+gun barrels in your mouth== RETARDED!!!:D :rasta: ;)

[eddievanzant]

I'm not going to argue anymore because this is just a matter of how cautious people are. You can call someone a pussy and they can call you a dumbass. Whatever; but tadaa you made this hostile. I know you aren't the only one throwing insults now but it's just not cool.
Anyways, I have a completely irrellevent and stupid air gun story (it's irrellevent because I'm untrained and this was an air gun): I brought an air gun to a birthday party and we shot each other for a while. It ran out so I reloaded the clip with around fifteen BB's and reloaded it, but it jammed. Because I'm untrained, I cocked it again and again trying to shoot it out. It was completely jammed so I just took the clip out, but there were no BB's in the clip!, and gave it to my friend. I said watch out because when it does shoot it'll shoot all of them out. About five hours later and after shooting it maybe 300 times my friend had it to a kids head and it shot all of them out and made the kid totally freak out. I couldn't stop laughing for like 5 minutes.

[DirkZooDiggler]

lol

like i said

getting loaded+gun barrels in your mouth== RETARDED!!!:D :rasta: ;)


But it is even more RETARDED!!! if you can't tell the difference between a loaded and unloaded gun.

[da haze meister]

No shit you fucking dumb ass. Do you think people shoot someone accidentally with a gun they KNEW was loaded? All accidental gun deaths are caused by people who THINK the gun wasn't loaded.

You do realize that guns do jam, right? And it's very possible for a shell to be stuck inside the chamber.

If you had any common sense, which you clearly don't, you would have realized that I obviously watched the video based on my comments.
as someone else said, the gun cant fire with the breech open
also...
THE SMOKE WOULDNT FUCKING GO THROUGH IF THERE WAS A SHELL IN THE CHAMBER.
there... glad i got that out.

[stangle12]

tadaa why are you so vehemently against this...are you some sort of anti-2nd ammendmant guy? wahts the deal huh? HUH??? HUUUHHH????

[VoidLivesOn]

You guys are just trippin' over some dumb shit.Like if they accidently blew there heads off it would affect you anyway besides being another statistic in your arguments.

[tadaa]

tadaa why are you so vehemently against this...are you some sort of anti-2nd ammendmant guy? wahts the deal huh? HUH??? HUUUHHH????

Apparently you haven't read any of my other posts concerning guns. I'm a conservative mostly, I'm all for guns. However, putting one in your mouth is fucking stupid.

[Kid Dynamite]

I love the hostility from people in these forums. It's awesome. Awesome.

I personally have my PAL (firearms possesion and acquisition licence) and I own a shotgun as well. In order to go to war you need to endure military training where you properly learn how to check for jammed cartriges and loaded barrels. To get a PAL you also have to go through a testing and education process.

While sticking a gun in your mouth is a bad idea, the fact that you're getting so insulted and worked up about this is kind of pointless, don't you think? I mean, they're just having fun, it's a gimmick, I'm sure they've done it a million times. It's not the safest idea, but if you make sure the gun is empty beforehand you have the same amount of danger smoking out of a regular pipe. It's very possible that you could get so high that you completely miss your lips with the pipe and stick it right in your eye.

that must be the quote of the thread.

[Skink]

That vid was cool!!!

[C4nn4Bliss]

that video was badass, you dont like it dont do it then for christ sake, but tell me why you feel the need to bitch about it?

[C4nn4Bliss]

Apparently you haven't read any of my other posts concerning guns. I'm a conservative mostly, I'm all for guns. However, putting one in your mouth is fucking stupid.

NAM was fucking stupid so they go hand in hand pal

[m4ster chef]

Ok, here's the thing about those guys.

1. They ALL know how to handle their weapons. They did it every day and their lives depended on it.

2. When you pump a shotgun till no more shells eject, you can see light coming through the barrell, and you can stick the pipe into the barrell, and when you blow smoke out the end, NOTHING can be in the barrell.

3. Those guys deserved to do what they wanted to. They had to kill or be killed. They went through more hell than most could dream of.

I have had my Hunter Safety Course that my state requires to buy a hunting license and I have handled guns since I was about 8... I think I shot my first .20 ga at that age. God it kicked. It was a single shot break action.

I have shot many different things, animals and inanimate objects and i have probably used guns in an improper way before but I DO KNOW WHAT I AM DOING. Now for the average person to stick a shot gun barrell into their mouth without having checked it first themselves is stupid. I would however trust my father to unload a gun FOR me.

Now i hate to say it but that whole shotgun trick can be accomplished with a simple piece of 1 in PVC pipe purchased from Lowe's or Home Depot. If you really wanna feel like you're taking a hit out of a real shotgun barrell right Remington on it and go smoke another bowl. LOL...

Also many of the "accidental" shooting deaths that take place are in improper and totally WRONG hunting situations. Such as running deer and shooting TOWARDS another person. You might be surprised how many people do stupid shit like that.

[slipknotpsycho]

And you wonder why there are so many accidental gun deaths. Those idiots shouldnt' even be called soldiers. It's poor handling and improper use of a firearm for no reason at all.

I mean honestly, how many idiots do you need in 1 room to come up with an idea that stupid. It's so stupid that 1 or 2 idiots couldn't even be that dumb. I guess that's why there's a group of them. I mean how does that even come about? "hey guys, I have a GREAT idea, lets put a shotgun in our mouths so we can smoke out of it".
hmm, ok some guy is taking weed smoke from a device used to kill people and you say they shouldn't even be soldiers because of this? this is the point of soldiers, to point guns at people, the shells were gone, and even more importantly, even if there was a shell in it, the fashion in which this is done (even tho i've never seen it done with this type of shotgun, always just a break-away double barrell) it would make it literally 100% impossible to shoot yourself, since the stem of the pipe couldn't even fit in the barrell if the shell was loaded and cocked, all ready to fire.

[graph]

There's about 900 accidental gun deaths each year in the U.S

Every single one of them thought the gun wasn't loaded.

Thank you for taking the time out of your day to question every single of the 900 accidental gun deaths and, through your immense research, surmise that these were all due to people believing the gun wasn't loaded. Actually, the correct mean of deaths every year in the United States is 762 (taken from a 2002 estimate). See, when you don't research things, and throw out a ballpark number that isn't true, no one has a reason to believe anything else you say. Haven't you ever heard of an accidental discharge? There are times when the person knows the gun is loaded, and doesn't intend on shooting it, but accidents happen. I believe that people in war have more of a chance of dying from the enemy than from smoking marijuana through a shotgun.

Personally, I think it would be very hard to mess this up. Really, truly improbably. Not saying it hasn't happened, but I truly believe that if someone died of accidental discharge from taking a shotgun hit in war, chances are they would have died, IN WAR, anyways. Anyone ever see the movie platoon? The way it was done in that movie looks like a very simple process.

What I used here in this argument is called tact. People are more willing to believe you when you use it. When you are condescending and constantly use expletives, people will only see you as a jackass, which I believe you have made yourself out to be. Express your opinions as best as you can so that others may see how you feel, but don't be a jackass about it. That doesn't help anybody.

http://www.nsc.org/lrs/statinfo/odds.htm
http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/tact

[tadaa]

Thank you for taking the time out of your day to question every single of the 900 accidental gun deaths and, through your immense research, surmise that these were all due to people believing the gun wasn't loaded. Actually, the correct mean of deaths every year in the United States is 762 (taken from a 2002 estimate). See, when you don't research things, and throw out a ballpark number that isn't true, no one has a reason to believe anything else you say. Haven't you ever heard of an accidental discharge? There are times when the person knows the gun is loaded, and doesn't intend on shooting it, but accidents happen. I believe that people in war have more of a chance of dying from the enemy than from smoking marijuana through a shotgun.

Personally, I think it would be very hard to mess this up. Really, truly improbably. Not saying it hasn't happened, but I truly believe that if someone died of accidental discharge from taking a shotgun hit in war, chances are they would have died, IN WAR, anyways. Anyone ever see the movie platoon? The way it was done in that movie looks like a very simple process.

What I used here in this argument is called tact. People are more willing to believe you when you use it. When you are condescending and constantly use expletives, people will only see you as a jackass, which I believe you have made yourself out to be. Express your opinions as best as you can so that others may see how you feel, but don't be a jackass about it. That doesn't help anybody.

http://www.nsc.org/lrs/statinfo/odds.htm
http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/tact

You're a moron. There's more than one source as to how many accidental gun deaths there are each year, and exactly how that particular source classifies a "accidental" gun death.

I mean come on, look how stupid I'm making 90% of the people in this thread look. I'm the ONLY one arguing that putting a gun in your mouth is stupid, everyone else is all for it. It's not hard to figure out who's the idiot(s).

[graph]

You think you're right. I think you're a jackass. How many people agree?

Oh, and as for my information, there are more than one sites. Had you taken the time to look you would have seen that. Smart people research, stupid people put down others' research without researching themselves.

http://www.econ.umd.edu/~duggan/gunshows3.pdf
http://www.politicalgateway.com/main/columns/read.html?col=479
http://armsandthelaw.com/archives/2005/09/usa_today_accid.php
http://college.hmco.com/english/resources/research_guide/2e/resources/case_study.html

I have found no source that gives the number to be 900 that is later than 1998. It wasn't 900 in 1998, though, it was 825, but these sites obviously rounded up. They all classify accidental gun death as a non-intentional death by firearm.

[slipknotpsycho]

actually i hate to burst both of your bubbles but there is no way that all the accidental gun deaths could be tracked to an exact number... any reports you see are just the ones reported, on top of that media (along with all other sources of public information) are subject to getting mis information, think back to the first mine explosion/collapse or w/e the fuck it was just about a month ago, one slight slip of mis-information led most of the men's families to believe they're spouses were still alive, when in fact they weren't. there's absolutely no way you can give an exact number of how many accidental shootings there were, nor can you give an exact number of any circumstances involved (gun loaded but the person didn't think so, gun loaded accidently discharged, and so on) any time you hear "blah blah blah, in such and such state/country, in the past however many days/months/years" that is pure speculation/estimate and so on, becuase there is no way every single gun related injury is reported, and at that reported correctly... yal two can go on arguing about it if you like, but all you're getting down to now is matters of opinion/speculation, because like i said, it'd literally be impossible to give an exact number of anything...

as a matter of pure example, so and so got out on parole has strict orders not to have a gun, he's showing his buddy and his buddy gets shot, there's a chance that story will never come to light and all that will be reported is that the buddy was showing off his new gun when he shot himself with it... of course if all circumstances were like that then the estimates would be accurate, but i think anyone with half a brain cell can get what i'm trying to get at with that point.

[Jennifer K]

Ok, here's the thing about those guys.

1. They ALL know how to handle their weapons. They did it every day and their lives depended on it.

2. When you pump a shotgun till no more shells eject, you can see light coming through the barrell, and you can stick the pipe into the barrell, and when you blow smoke out the end, NOTHING can be in the barrell.

3. Those guys deserved to do what they wanted to. They had to kill or be killed. They went through more hell than most could dream of.

I have had my Hunter Safety Course that my state requires to buy a hunting license and I have handled guns since I was about 8... I think I shot my first .20 ga at that age. God it kicked. It was a single shot break action.

I have shot many different things, animals and inanimate objects and i have probably used guns in an improper way before but I DO KNOW WHAT I AM DOING. Now for the average person to stick a shot gun barrell into their mouth without having checked it first themselves is stupid. I would however trust my father to unload a gun FOR me.

Now i hate to say it but that whole shotgun trick can be accomplished with a simple piece of 1 in PVC pipe purchased from Lowe's or Home Depot. If you really wanna feel like you're taking a hit out of a real shotgun barrell right Remington on it and go smoke another bowl. LOL...

Also many of the "accidental" shooting deaths that take place are in improper and totally WRONG hunting situations. Such as running deer and shooting TOWARDS another person. You might be surprised how many people do stupid shit like that.
Could not have said it better! My lover is a veitnam vet and one did what one had to do to survive at the time. It's not like there was a head shop right around the corner. Their guns were their lovers, best friends and they took care of each other.:) :stoned:

[graph]

Oh yeah, of course I know that. A statistic over a large medium is never entirely accurate. I was trying to disprove the theory that all 900 deaths in the United States due to accidental death by firearm had to do with the thought that the gun wasn't loaded. Tadaa went off on a tangent, and I felt the need to prove my sources.

Oh, and by the way, Tadaa, I spotted the idiot right away. It's always easy to tell who the idiot is, look for the one that has resorted to expletives and condescending statements. Thanks for showing everyone who the real idiot here is.

[Smokey McPot]

And you wonder why there are so many accidental gun deaths. Those idiots shouldnt' even be called soldiers. It's poor handling and improper use of a firearm for no reason at all.

I mean honestly, how many idiots do you need in 1 room to come up with an idea that stupid. It's so stupid that 1 or 2 idiots couldn't even be that dumb. I guess that's why there's a group of them. I mean how does that even come about? "hey guys, I have a GREAT idea, lets put a shotgun in our mouths so we can smoke out of it".


You must not know much about vietnam. Those guys were terrified and they needed to relax. They were constantly scared of viet cong popping out of trees and tunnels and shooting them. Also the fact that marijuana, hash, herion, opium and maybe a few others were VERY easy to get in Nam. I know people who have nightmares from being in that war.

[C4nn4Bliss]

hopefully weve heard the last of tadaa

[Jennifer K]

You must not know much about vietnam. Those guys were terrified and they needed to relax. They were constantly scared of viet cong popping out of trees and tunnels and shooting them. Also the fact that marijuana, hash, herion, opium and maybe a few others were VERY easy to get in Nam. I know people who have nightmares from being in that war.
My honey says right on dude but sorry no hash. He has nightmares too sometimes.:) :stoned:

[slipknotpsycho]

i don't believe in war (not protesting either i know i'm never going to change a basic human instinct) but i do feel really sorry for all of those who've experienced what they have, and for the families who've lost loved ones.... i coudln't imagine what it woudl be like to be just walking around doing your "job" then all of a sudden you've got mortars, tank rounds, massive machine gun fire and god knows what else coming right at you... yea i think even taking a 'shotgun' from a loaded and cocked shotgun would be the last of my worries about right then... to graph yes i know, i was just making my point as well, somtimes you just have to be the better man and step down because some 'idiots' just won't give up til they're proved 100% wrong or they go to their deathbed. by your posts i can tell your mature enough to understand this, just a friendly reminder that it's better to just give up sometimes then keep arguing with idiots who think they know everything.

[Kryzco]

I think the idea of using a gun to smoke is kinda cool, wouldn't do it, but it does make way for a great pic (sorry I'm into photography, so I think of stuff like this)


... the smoking gun

[eddievanzant]

I mean come on, look how stupid I'm making 90% of the people in this thread look.
It seems to me that is your objective. Are you insecure about your own intelligence or what?

[king kong bong]

I believe that people in war have more of a chance of dying from the enemy than from smoking marijuana through a shotgun.

or from friendly fire which seems to be happening a lot these days.

[tadaa]

It seems to me that is your objective. Are you insecure about your own intelligence or what?

Are you fucking stupid? I'm the only one saying that IT IS STUPID TO PUT A GUN IN YOUR MOUTH.

Everyone else says it's a good idea, gee, I wonder who the morons are...

[slipknotpsycho]

Are you fucking stupid? I'm the only one saying that IT IS STUPID TO PUT A GUN IN YOUR MOUTH.

Everyone else says it's a good idea, gee, I wonder who the morons are...
you're still missing the point, the dude took all the shells out of the gun, then ontop of that as i already stated, even if there as a shell in cocked and loaded, it would be impossible to shoot yourself...

i really don't understand how something so simple has turned into all this... these dudes are being shot at day by day... like i said, i'm sure the shotgun going off while doing this is going to be the least of their worries...

oh yes, i watched the video... and it does look pretty sweet.. if i had a shotgun i'd do it that way, that's alot of fucking smoke...

[tadaa]

you're still missing the point, the dude took all the shells out of the gun, then ontop of that as i already stated, even if there as a shell in cocked and loaded, it would be impossible to shoot yourself...

i really don't understand how something so simple has turned into all this... these dudes are being shot at day by day... like i said, i'm sure the shotgun going off while doing this is going to be the least of their worries...

oh yes, i watched the video... and it does look pretty sweet.. if i had a shotgun i'd do it that way, that's alot of fucking smoke...

Jesus Christ, how many firemarms do you own? I already said that my grandpa had a broken shotgun that I got from him that fired in the manner you're claiming is impossible. Guns break, they malfunction, especially guns in vietnam if you know anything about the newly introduced firearms in that war.

Putting a gun, whether loaded or unloaded into your mouth is fucking stupid. Every gun should always be treated as if it's loaded.

This is a fucking pot forum, not a firearm forum. Go to a firearm forum and link to this thread and see what the fuck happens. I'll be the only person that they agree with.

[slipknotpsycho]

ok yea you're right, the firing pin in the gun is going to go through the stem of the pipe and set off the shotgun shell that somehow fit into a tube made just for it's size when something of a considerable size is already in this tube.. so not only does it have to defy physics once, it has to do it twice, first the shell has to find it's way into the barrel which is pretty much the same diameter of the barrell, even tho something is blocking the clear path for it to enter this tube, then, after it defys all logic and physics, the firing pin of the gun has to go through the stem of the pipe to set it off (tho there is a small chance that the firing pin could just hit the stem of the pipe and if the stem happened to have a raised part right at the spot where the firing pin hits the shell,, but that's like so unlikely we'll just exempt it)

yea of course this isn't how guns should be handled and it could be dangerous... but fuck, there are a hell of alot more dangers all around you then an unloaded, uncocked shotgun, you're trying to make this whole thing seem like it's super-ignorant/dangerous.. which it's not.... find me an online report where it says even one person died by getting shot by the gun being used while doing this...

[eddievanzant]

Tadaa, at first you had a point before other people who knew much about guns came on and pwned you. You are wrong and you are needlessly insulting people, and that makes me believe you're insecure about your own intelligence.

[d00d989]

rofl i think someone stuck a shotgun up tadaa's asshole.

bitchy bitchy bitchy

haha

[C4nn4Bliss]

Are you fucking stupid? I'm the only one saying that IT IS STUPID TO PUT A GUN IN YOUR MOUTH.

Everyone else says it's a good idea, gee, I wonder who the morons are...


why you gotta insult someone that is confident in what they are doing, be it stupid or not??? you sound like an immature little bitch IMO why dont you just drop it cause you are getting bent over and fucked in this thread. Youve made your point now shut the fuck up!

[C4nn4Bliss]

rofl i think someone stuck a shotgun up tadaa's asshole.

bitchy bitchy bitchy

haha

funny you bring that up i was about to post maybe hes just gun shy from SOMETHING going off in his face
:thumbsup:

[SmokeyPotter]

You people do realize that you can effectively use the shotgun technique with out a firearm? In fact this weekend my buddies and I used a digeradoo to great effect! There is no reason to use a weapon as it will only leave residue inside the barrel which you'll have to clean out. I'm not saying that if you use this technique with an actual shotgun you're going to get your head blown off, just that there are plenty of other options to reach the desired result! Be creative. Not stupid.

[tadaa]

Tadaa, at first you had a point before other people who knew much about guns came on and pwned you. You are wrong and you are needlessly insulting people, and that makes me believe you're insecure about your own intelligence.

lol@ me being wrong.

So what you're saying is that it's a good idea to put a gun in your mouth?

Actually I'm 100% correct because I'm stating 2 things, please stay with me because it's obvious a lot of you in here don't have much of an education

1. Putting a gun in your mouth is stupid
2. Shotguns can malfunction, and it is possible for a shotgun to fire with the breach open given the right type of malfunction, I have seen it in person.

You know what, hold on a sec, I'm gonna post this on glock talk so I can embarass all of you, I will post the link to the thread.

[C4nn4Bliss]

this guy^^^^^^

putting a unloaded gun inyour mouth isnt stupid, is the gun itself gonna kill you? no its the fucking bullets that do
Shotguns can malfunction but whats your point?? you wouldnt smoke out of it with a shell in there anyways!

you may think we have problems for thinking this is alright but you sir have problems for getting so bitchy and pissy over it. What do you have to prove here??? fuck off already kid

[tadaa]

this guy^^^^^^

putting a unloaded gun inyour mouth isnt stupid, is the gun itself gonna kill you? no its the fucking bullets that do
Shotguns can malfunction but whats your point?? you wouldnt smoke out of it with a shell in there anyways!

you may think we have problems for thinking this is alright but you sir have problems for getting so bitchy and pissy over it. What do you have to prove here??? fuck off already kid

Just wait, we will see what my peers that actually have a clue about firearms have to say. Nice quote in your sig by the way, but you have it backwards.

[C4nn4Bliss]

really and how is it backwards,

id rather be carried by 6(6 people carry your casket) then judged by 12(jury of your peers)

you are one ignorant opinionated fucker arent you?
momma not give you enough attention???

[highjinx]

fuck it! i'd smoke from a shotgun! that be pretty cool!:smokin: :thumbsup:

[tadaa]

http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1919533#post1919533

There it is, now lets see what happens.

[tadaa]

really and how is it backwards,

id rather be carried by 6(6 people carry your casket) then judged by 12(jury of your peers)

you are one ignorant opinionated fucker arent you?
momma not give you enough attention???

Actually no, the saying is I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6, meaning that you would rather defend your life with your gun than be killed by someone trying to harm you.

http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1919533#post1919533

Anyways keep checking out the link I just posted for your embarassments.

[da haze meister]

Actually no, the saying is I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6, meaning that you would rather defend your life with your gun than be killed by someone trying to harm you.

http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1919533#post1919533

Anyways keep checking out the link I just posted for your embarassments.

lemme tell you something. i guarantee you that i have forgotten more about firearms and firearm tactics than you have known in your entire fucking life. i have won competitions in both regular traditional sitting and moving targets as well as practical-tactical and US marine comps. i own a shitload of guns, including a twelve gauge very similar to that one. looks like an Ithica or remington, both of which i have. it is a twelve gauge, of course, so heres a few simple facts.

1.the soldier looked to see light in the chamber/barrel assembly. he was satisfied with what he saw, light, and proceeded to get über stoned. even YOU wouldnt have put a loaded gun in your mouth.

2. with that amount of smoke coming through, no shell could have been jammed. a twelve gauge shell would have completely blocked the chamber and consequently the bowl/marijuana assembly from going in.

3. even if a smaller gauge shell would have jammed (the only one that will is a 16 gauge-not available in 'Nam)(i think i have never deliberately tried to test this) there would have been no way to get the smoke through.

4. the soldier HAD to have cleared the chamber, as on the last pump a shell ejected. the ejector/extractor assembly only works on the chamber, so there would have had to be a bullet chambered to be ejected. not from the magazine. from the chamber. and on top of that, he never closed the breech, so no opportunity for another bullet to have been chambered.

5.he ejected three rounds. that is all the soldiers were permitted to load, due to fear of jams when topped off.

for all you non-gun-techies this translates into two things. 1. tadaa has been pwnt
and 2 im stoned :rasta: :rasta:

[tadaa]

lemme tell you something. i guarantee you that i have forgotten more about firearms and firearm tactics than you have known in your entire fucking life. i have won competitions in both regular traditional sitting and moving targets as well as practical-tactical and US marine comps. i own a shitload of guns, including a twelve gauge very similar to that one. looks like an Ithica or remington, both of which i have. it is a twelve gauge, of course, so heres a few simple facts.

1.the soldier looked to see light in the chamber/barrel assembly. he was satisfied with what he saw, light, and proceeded to get über stoned. even YOU wouldnt have put a loaded gun in your mouth.

2. with that amount of smoke coming through, no shell could have been jammed. a twelve gauge shell would have completely blocked the chamber and consequently the bowl/marijuana assembly from going in.

3. even if a smaller gauge shell would have jammed (the only one that will is a 16 gauge-not available in 'Nam)(i think i have never deliberately tried to test this) there would have been no way to get the smoke through.

4. the soldier HAD to have cleared the chamber, as on the last pump a shell ejected. the ejector/extractor assembly only works on the chamber, so there would have had to be a bullet chambered to be ejected. not from the magazine. from the chamber. and on top of that, he never closed the breech, so no opportunity for another bullet to have been chambered.

5.he ejected three rounds. that is all the soldiers were permitted to load, due to fear of jams when topped off.

for all you non-gun-techies this translates into two things. 1. tadaa has been pwnt
and 2 im stoned :rasta: :rasta:


Everything you just posted was assuming the gun was in perfect working order. Like I fucking said a million times guns jam and malfunction all the time. And I can guarantee you don't have NEARLY as many firearms as myself. I'm a collector, as well as my grandfather, and great grandfather who I now have all of their guns as well as dozens of my fathers.

[da haze meister]

Everything you just posted was assuming the gun was in perfect working order. Like I fucking said a million times guns jam and malfunction all the time. And I can guarantee you don't have NEARLY as many firearms as myself. I'm a collector, as well as my grandfather, and great grandfather who I now have all of their guns as well as dozens of my fathers.
IT DOESNT FUCKING MATTER IF IT WAS IN PERFECT WORKING ORDER>>>> I JUST EXPLAINED IT PHYSICALLY AND RATIONALLY. god dude fucking read it. IT IS PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR THE SMOKE TO COME THROUGH IF IT WAS JAMMED!

[C4nn4Bliss]

Actually no, the saying is I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6, meaning that you would rather defend your life with your gun than be killed by someone trying to harm you.

http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1919533#post1919533

Anyways keep checking out the link I just posted for your embarassments.

i dunno where you got taht but my sig is from a song

"Id rather be carried by 6 than judged by 12 so let the streets be the prosecuter judge and jury, let me have a trial by fury, ive had it up to here with these man made laws, amerika never gave a fuck about yall so let the streets be the prosecuter judge and jury let me have a trial by fury"

Thats just shows that you are ignorant and stubborn by saying it was backwards when it was really from something other than what was in your tiny punk brain, grow the fuck up already, world doesnt revolve around your fucking brain ya douche

[C4nn4Bliss]

Everything you just posted was assuming the gun was in perfect working order. Like I fucking said a million times guns jam and malfunction all the time. And I can guarantee you don't have NEARLY as many firearms as myself. I'm a collector, as well as my grandfather, and great grandfather who I now have all of their guns as well as dozens of my fathers.


Its actually sad you own so many guns but cant comprehend what they are saying. I bet a good ol fashion cock slapping would set you straight

[C4nn4Bliss]

HEY TADAA LISTEN TO THE PERSON ON THE GUN FORUM, YOU ARE WASTING YOUR TIME SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY, EVEN IF YOU WERE RIGHT DO YOU REALLY NEED THE SATISFACTION OF PEOPLE ON THIS FORUM TELLING YOU THAT YOU ARE RIGHT?? MY FUCKING GOD YOU ACT LIKE YOU HAD A HARD ON FOR BEING RIGHT, SHUT-THE-FUCK-UP

[Euphoric]

Guns are for the unstable and paranoid. Lasers are fun

[rhino44]

Guns are for the unstable and paranoid. Lasers are fun

what about bow and arrows:D

[highjinx]

yeah, and rocks!:dance:

[tadaa]

IT DOESNT FUCKING MATTER IF IT WAS IN PERFECT WORKING ORDER>>>> I JUST EXPLAINED IT PHYSICALLY AND RATIONALLY. god dude fucking read it. IT IS PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR THE SMOKE TO COME THROUGH IF IT WAS JAMMED!

Smoke can travel through cracks, so yes smoke could still go through the barrel, I don't know where you got the idea that a gun is air tight inside.

[C4nn4Bliss]

i got an idea why dont we just let tadaa think hes right so he can go wank it to the thought of him being right on a fucking forum, tadaa you are a freak

[C4nn4Bliss]

Smoke can travel through cracks, so yes smoke could still go through the barrel, I don't know where you got the idea that a gun is air tight inside.

im pretty sure theyd know when they slid the bowl in the chamber if the shell was in there buddy, what part of that dont you get, you see to be jumping back and forth to different arguments and its really annoying. No a shotgun like that wont be air tight with a jammed shell but you sure as fuck would know when you slid that bowl piece in thereif it was jammed or not. How bout you try it with a clear chamber and then again with your dick jammed in the chamber and see if you can tell the difference
:thumbsup:

[OzzyOz]

damn...
in that one Oliver Stone Vietnam film they do this. I forgot what it's called... ARGH

[eddievanzant]

HEY TADAA LISTEN TO THE PERSON ON THE GUN FORUM, YOU ARE WASTING YOUR TIME SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY, EVEN IF YOU WERE RIGHT DO YOU REALLY NEED THE SATISFACTION OF PEOPLE ON THIS FORUM TELLING YOU THAT YOU ARE RIGHT?? MY FUCKING GOD YOU ACT LIKE YOU HAD A HARD ON FOR BEING RIGHT, SHUT-THE-FUCK-UP If that were really true he'd change his mind. Obviously one would assume putting a gun in your mouth is dangerous, but when they're definitely unloaded it's fine. Why are you so overly cautious about guns tadaa?

[graph]

You talking about Platoon? I like that movie.

[JunkYard]

After reviewing how a 'shotgun' actually works with a shotgun...there is no way in hell you can shoot yourself if you do it properly!

I wouldn't do it, but thats me! I don't like thinking about putting a barell of a gun to my lips.

Why the argument, anyway? If they want to put a gun to their lips, let them. ;)

[C4nn4Bliss]

If that were really true he'd change his mind. Obviously one would assume putting a gun in your mouth is dangerous, but when they're definitely unloaded it's fine. Why are you so overly cautious about guns tadaa?

i believe its not even about that, its about him being gun shy with a weapon in his face, what happen tadaa?? Someones cock discharge in your when you thought it was unloaded??

haha but seriously, whats it with you and being so touchy on the subject of having a unloaded gun in your face?? You really value your life that much?? pathetic

Gotta remember we amerikans are gun-totin crazy fucks, especially those texans!!!! so what the fuck do you expect man

[slipknotpsycho]

Smoke can travel through cracks, so yes smoke could still go through the barrel, I don't know where you got the idea that a gun is air tight inside.
fine, so smoke can travel through the cracks... but your not looking at something cuz your so cock-bound on proving you are right.. now fuckin listen.

first of all, if the gun is unloaded, uncocked, then it is no more dangerous then a lead pipe of the same size... becasue without that shell all you can do is beat someone with it.
second of all, look at the fucking video, if there was a shell chambered the smoke would not be flowing out that thick and that freely, it would be little to none.
third of all, refer back to my other posts, with the pipe stem in there between where the shell would be if there was one, and the firing pin of the gun, there is like maybe just maybe a 1 in a 1,000,000 chance it'd go off, it doesn't make a fuck if the gun is malfunctioning or not, becasue there is still something solid between the firing pin and the imaginary shell inside the gun.
fourth of all, anyone that does this with a loaded shotgun either has a serious need for adrenaline/thrill, or they just deserve to have their head blown off... but then again, refer back up to the top, there's pretty much no way even with it loaded it would discharge.

you are illogical, and use illogical arguments in your posts, i think you are attention needy and/or a whiney bitch. btw, i don't see how we're supposed to be embarassed over what you posted on another web forum. first of all, of course they're going to say it's not a good idea to stick a gun in your mouth becasue you are on a firearm forum, where most people are all about gun saftey, second of all i'm sure any of them will tell you that if you stick a pipe into a shotgun, even if there is a shell in it, that it's going to be pretty much impossible for it to go off.

[slipknotpsycho]

If that were really true he'd change his mind. Obviously one would assume putting a gun in your mouth is dangerous, but when they're definitely unloaded it's fine. Why are you so overly cautious about guns tadaa?
i don't think he's overly cautious with guns, i think he just wanted to pick an argument...

[C4nn4Bliss]

a cat like tadaa has issues and cant admit hes wrong on any level if you havent noticed already, hes dug himself such a bitch hole that if he were to admit it, it would dent his ego most likely

[eddievanzant]

He didn't dig it by making valid points but eventually being wrong, he dug it by needlessly insulting people. It's never a good idea to insult people if there's a chance you're wrong.

[da haze meister]

Smoke can travel through cracks, so yes smoke could still go through the barrel, I don't know where you got the idea that a gun is air tight inside.
did you see the amount of smoke coming through? i could understand that if it was a rifled barrel, but it isnt, as those werent issued then because the soldiers only used shot not rifled slugs. you fuck.

[benagain]

Wow. this is a really long thread now. I couldn't read pas the first few pages, but here's my 2 cents. The gun wasn't loaded. the pipe was jammed into the chamber = no shell. in a normal situation, this would be dumb, but fuck it. it was vietnam. Chances are those guys are either dead or suffering some horrible shit from agent orange. Looked fun to me. Might be worth trying with a piece of pvc pipe.

[da haze meister]

Wow. this is a really long thread now. I couldn't read pas the first few pages, but here's my 2 cents. The gun wasn't loaded. the pipe was jammed into the chamber = no shell. in a normal situation, this would be dumb, but fuck it. it was vietnam. Chances are those guys are either dead or suffering some horrible shit from agent orange. Looked fun to me. Might be worth trying with a piece of pvc pipe.
smoking through PVC is even more dangerous than from a shotgun.

[C4nn4Bliss]

hes right, use a metal pipe!!

[benagain]

yea, that would be a dumb thing to do. Note to the kids. don't smoke through pvc or any other harmful plastics. :thumbsup:

[C4nn4Bliss]

ya some of us had to learn the hard way of, like makin a lung outta a 2 liter and a garbage bag, fuck that was a bad idea!

[benagain]

ya some of us had to learn the hard way of, like makin a lung outta a 2 liter and a garbage bag, fuck that was a bad idea!

Yea, tell me about it. I can't even count how many coke cans and bottles i've smoked out of when I was young. God, the dumb shit you'll do when you're 15 :p

[STDzRus]

That's a badass video

[C4nn4Bliss]

Yea, tell me about it. I can't even count how many coke cans and bottles i've smoked out of when I was young. God, the dumb shit you'll do when you're 15 :p

same here, got to the point where i would make each coke can piece artistic, haha

[JunkYard]

Coke cans are good in a pinch, but I don't recommend it...