US launches major Iraq air attack

[Great Spirit]

Fucken Nazis....Go after the REAL terrorists in the White House and Congress, not innocent women and children in Iraq! How would Amerikan's like it if bombs were dropped on their cities and killed their women and children????!!!!! It wouldn't be fun now would it and you would condemn the attackers! Wars are meant to be for defensive purposes only...never offensive. When Amerika starts fighting wars offensivly, then you know something is fucked up. Amerika has great power...don't let your country go to shit because of fascist pigs like Bush and co.
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The US military says it has launched its biggest air offensive in Iraq since the 2003 invasion, targeting insurgents near the central city of Samarra.
More than 50 aircraft and 1,500 Iraqi and US troops have been deployed in the operation, a military statement says.

A bomb attack on the al-Askari shrine in Samarra, 100km (60 miles) north of Baghdad, last month sparked widespread sectarian violence.

There are no independent reports of Thursday's offensive so far.

The US military said the assault, dubbed Operation Swarmer, was intended to "clear a suspected insurgent operating area" north-east of Samarra.

Iraqi interim Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari told CNN the attack had been necessary to prevent insurgents forming a new stronghold in the area, such as had been seen in the town of Falluja.

Weapons caches

The offensive is expected to last several days "as a thorough search of the objective area is conducted".

Near the end of the first day, the joint US and Iraqi force said it had captured a number of weapons caches, containing shells, explosives and military uniforms.

US military spokesman Sgt Stan Lavery, in Baghdad, told the BBC the operation was focused on Iraq's Salahuddin province.

"We are trying to achieve denying the insurgency and the terrorists their weapons, and capturing and killing as many of them as we can," he said.

A senior Iraqi army officer told AFP news agency the offensive was "targeting bases of militants loyal to Zarqawi", the leader of the militant group al-Qaeda in Iraq.

There are no reports of casualties or details of any insurgent resistance so far.

Show of force

The BBC's Jim Muir in Baghdad says it is clear the Americans do believe there are pockets of insurgents in the Samarra area.

Samarra has become a byword for sectarian violence following the shrine attack, our correspondent says, and the US is keen to be seen as attacking the roots of the violence.

The BBC's Adam Brookes in Washington says a major show of force is being carried out in the hope of breaking a cycle of escalating violence which it is feared could lead to civil war.

The Pentagon is keen to demonstrate that US and Iraqi forces can operate jointly and effectively in response to sectarian attacks, he says.

The military operation is also backing up the political message from the Bush administration in recent weeks that progress is being made in Iraq, he adds.

Asked whether President George Bush had ordered the offensive to bolster falling US support for the Iraq war, White House spokesman Scott McClellan said the decision to attack had been made solely by commanders on the ground.

The operation coincides with the US announcement of a new national security strategy - in which it restates a policy of pre-emptive strikes first issued in 2002 and criticised since the Iraq war - and the first session of Iraq's new parliament.

It also comes shortly before the third anniversary of the US-led invasion of Iraq.

[Great Spirit]

"We are trying to achieve denying the insurgency and the terrorists their weapons, and capturing and killing as many of them as we can," he said.
Wow...that quote doesn't look good for public relations. He could have said captured and arrested. When you say kill, that means the US is going trigger happy. Just like the Nazis did!!

[mont974x4]

Your misinterpretation and misunderstanding of facts and history and your hate never cease to surprise me.

LOL but that stop mad cowboy disease pic is dang funny lmao

[Psycho4Bud]

Fucken Nazis....Go after the REAL terrorists in the White House and Congress, not innocent women and children in Iraq!
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The US military says it has launched its biggest air offensive in Iraq since the 2003 invasion, targeting insurgents near the central city of Samarra.

I just fuckin' hate it when innocent women and children turn into insurgents! I say give em' back their potato peelers and water pistols and take away their new toy the Ak-47!:thumbsup:

[Zinnia]

They are 'insurgents' because they aren't interested in Bush's agenda and they want our asses out of there, which, IMHO, is something we should consider before more of our people and Iraquis are killed.

[mont974x4]

They are insurgents and terrorists and have been for decades. This is not a new situation. The only thing diference is they are finally being dealt with justly.

[Psycho4Bud]

They are "insurgents" because their going against the will of the 70% of the Iraqi's that turned out to vote. I know, hard concept, but I have confidence that people will eventually catch up!:thumbsup:

[mont974x4]

shhh we don't like real facts around here. LOL

[Zinnia]

They are "insurgents" because their going against the will of the 70% of the Iraqi's that turned out to vote. I know, hard concept, but I have confidence that people will eventually catch up!:thumbsup:

I can agree to that. But I still think the US needs to get the hell out of there.

[mont974x4]

Fair enough. Do you think the Bush policies are really to blame or do you consider the failings of almost every president going back to, say, Carter shares in the blame?

[Zinnia]

Fair enough. Do you think the Bush policies are really to blame

For the actions in Iraq, yes. Iraq had never attacked the US or showed any interest in attacking the US.


or do you consider the failings of almost every president going back to, say, Carter shares in the blame?

I think Clinton helped in the Iraq matter, yes, but I don't think I would go back as far as Carter. Carter did his own dealings, as all presidents do.

[Zinnia]

shhh we don't like real facts around here. LOL

Wow, and I thought that we could agree to disagree without attacking the integrity and beliefs of others.

I respect your opinion and would fight for the right for you to have it.

[mont974x4]

Actually Bush 1 failed in not ousting Saddam when he had the chance. I understand in order to build his coalition he had to agree to stop short of that. That also meant we had to break promises and agreements made with those in Iraq that would have fought to overthrow Saddam after the Gulf War. Clinton failed to act when he was offered Bin Laden (if I recall correctly we were attacked most often on his watch by Bin Laden) and he let Saddam attack us daily. Carter's part was in his dealing with Iran specifically and Muslism extremists in general. I think he meant well but he was misguided. IMO

Of course, I also think of the Iraq issue as just a part of the War on Terror. Saddam was a terrorist, of that, there is no doubt.

We could also look at it as its own issue. I think those of us that see a wrong and have the power to change it also have a responsibility to take action. Such as we did in Bosnia and Kosovo (where I myself served). Taking a cue from the Dem's and thinking of us as a global community and relating it closer to home. If I know my neighbor is molesting his kids the I have a responsibility to help. I start with peaceful ways and try to get other people involved but in the end if no one else is willing to help I still must do whatever I can. We did this in Iraq, Bosnia, Kosovo, and other places. Part of the problem in Iraq is the UN food for oil scandal and our supposed allies unwillingness to back up their own resolutions. Remember it wasn't our job to prove Saddam had WMD but the burden of proof was on him to show that he didn't. The blame is his and his alone. IMO

[mont974x4]

Wow, and I thought that we could agree to disagree without attacking the integrity and beliefs of others.

I respect your opinion and would fight for the right for you to have it.

Sorry, it was a tongue in cheek comment not meant to be a direct personal attack on anyone. I apologize for any misunderstanding.

[Great Spirit]

Your misinterpretation and misunderstanding of facts and history and your hate never cease to surprise me. I only show hatred to the people who make this a shitty world. What I say is true. If you don't like it...too bad. Just wait for that war with Iran soon!! :( I heard on NPR that Bush will use pre-emptive strikes on Iran if they are deemed an official threat. So so sad..........

"Some say it's just a part of it...we've got to fulfill the book"

[Psycho4Bud]

I can agree to that. But I still think the US needs to get the hell out of there.

The more Iraqi troops that are trained the closer we are to that goal! Hopefully soon!:thumbsup:

[TakeFlight]

I only show hatred to the people who make this a shitty world. What I say is true. If you don't like it...too bad. Just wait for that war with Iran soon!! :( I heard on NPR that Bush will use pre-emptive strikes on Iran if they are deemed an official threat. So so sad..........

"Some say it's just a part of it...we've got to fulfill the book"

Yeah you know bush cant keep his dick in his pants with the whole Iran thing for much longer, he needs to rub one out on Iran

[Psycho4Bud]

Let em' get their nukes....why should it bother the U.S.!:thumbsup:

[TakeFlight]

why?? doesnt matter if there range cant hit the US the fallout would effect the world

[sbskico1]

and Isreal would never stand for it....

[sbskico1]

We should just annex the whole damn country...they've had it for the last 5000 years and havent really done much with it..........
on the other hand look what the U.S. have done in the last 200 years!!!!!

[TakeFlight]

yeah thats what they want, another step towards globalism, the US having control over every country, thats Bush's wet dream right there, your a fool sbskico

[mont974x4]

Actually it's the UN that wants control of the world. lol

[Miss Green]

[QUOTE=Great Spirit]Fucken Nazis....Go after the REAL terrorists in the White House and Congress, not innocent women and children in Iraq! How would Amerikan's like it if bombs were dropped on their cities and killed their women and children????!!!!! It wouldn't be fun now would it and you would condemn the attackers! Wars are meant to be for defensive purposes only...never offensive. When Amerika starts fighting wars offensivly, then you know something is fucked up. Amerika has great power...don't let your country go to shit because of fascist pigs like Bush and co.

I know and these nazi,narqs can't get it through there braindead head that they and my country and the british are commiting war crimes and it's an out rage that they are getting away with this.And hopefully next election except for bush thank christ for that won't get in because it's just not on invading another country that has no means of defending themselves except for sticks and stones so who are the real criminals here?:confused: :mad:

[Miss Green]

They are "insurgents" because their going against the will of the 70% of the Iraqi's that turned out to vote. I know, hard concept, but I have confidence that people will eventually catch up!:thumbsup:
No you call them the "insurgents" because they don't obey the almighty america because america is god and you must surrender your soul to the invaders which quite clearly are all of us that are there.;)
Oh what you mean the sham election oh yeah i'm sure your country is use to that :thumbsup:

[Psycho4Bud]

Oh what you mean the sham election oh yeah i'm sure your country is use to that :thumbsup:

And all the peoples said it couldn't be done! Then there was a 70% turnout! Now all the peoples scream it was a sham!
Let's bring back Saddam! He ALWAYS had 100% of the vote!!!:thumbsup:

[mont974x4]

It's a mixed bag, I'm glad to see they had such high turn outs for the elections but sad that most of the countries that are used to voting have no where near that kind of turn out.

[VoidLivesOn]

Great Spirit shouldn't you be marching to New Orleans with the rest?

[Myth1184]

It wasnt a AIR ATTACk, it was a air mission, which involved moving troops in by Air. Get your story straight fucktaard

[geonagual]

Protect our own borders


The world is going to end either way
We're (America) are wasting our time and our money
on foreign policies of other countries

Why do we even care?

[sbskico1]

Protect our own borders


The world is going to end either way
We're (America) are wasting our time and our money
on foreign policies of other countries

Why do we even care?


Because.....those who can "see" should help the blind....
Look at what America has done in the last 200 years, more than other countries who had thousands of years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the melting pot is what makes us great