lets see where this gets me

[DrGonzo]

okay, so I had a thought...keep in mind this is only my opinion, I have no intention to act on any of this.

why is saddam hussein still alive? they caught him, right? why didn't that one guy, that soldier who opened up the hole, just riddle him with bullets for what he'd done to his country? hes pretty much gotten away with it, because everybody has been treating him decently to avoid international human rights issues...even though he may get the death sentence, right now he's reading poetry in his jail cell! I don't think that's really fitting for somebody who has commited the atrocities he's responsible for...what do you all think?

would this world be a better place if world leaders were simply executed on the spot for what they've done? notice I said 'world leaders'...NOT just saddam. because guaranteed, there are people, in any country, who feel this strongly about their 'democratically elected' leaders...should they be held accountable in a swift, violent manner?

Personally, I think the world would be a better place if a few selected individuals weren't in it...I'm not going to name any names, but there are those in power who are there simply FOR the power. they line their pockets with money, and rely on global disasters to keep the populace distracted while they escape...I say if they screw up royally, they die too. or at the very least, deported. to the moon.

[KillaBuzz]

i see wut yer sayin gonz. even if i wuz military an had orderz no keep him alive if possible, id still pop the cunt fulla lead. i hate ta sound like bush when i say that but certain ppl do deserve ta die. im all fer equal rightz n all that but there r sum ppl who have evaded otherz rightz too many timez, an the worst part ov it iz that they dunt even care who they hurt. im the kinda guy who if u cross me once, i dunt quit till i cross u twice az bad, thatz juss the mindset ive grown up wit. like scarface said"i never fuck nobody over who dunt have it commin", an thatz the kinda mindset that me an the ppl i associate wit need 2 keep in order ta keep wut we got goin...an i wish i cood b specific but i dunt like givin info on the net. anywayz, i got a lil off topic there. i kno exactly wut yer sayin tho gonz, i juss dunt rlly wanna say that ppl like him shood die cuz it soundz bad, but o well itz tru.
PeAcE

[hippy lettuce]

lol u grow up in a rough area then killabuzz? how dya mean what u got goin on? neway thats besides the point, i agree with u dr. gonzo saddams a scumbag, the amount of lives hes responsible for takin though. he dunt even deserve a trial does he? shud do the world a favour n kill im lol but then again who am i to say lol

[Ammie]

wow that was a deep thought ill have to get back to you on that :confused: :confused:

[dog420]

just 1 word comes to mind.....OIL

he will be rotting in hell soon enuff.

[KillaBuzz]

i dunno hippy, itz not rlly the area, but the ppl. letz juss say i wuz introduced 2 erythin a lil early on.

[SomeDude]

Why isn't he dead? Politics. If we just executed him right off the bat, all sorts of people would shit a brick. also, it is understood that he's gonna get it, but we want it to look like the Iraqi people get to take care of him.

And think about it, if we just shot him on the spot with no trial, isn't that sinking to his level just a little?

[GHoSToKeR]

hey

I'm probably going to get alot of shit for saying this, but its my opinion, which is just as valid as everyone elses so i'll say it anyway..

Dr Gonzo, i disagree with you... i agree, Saddam Hussein is a scumbag, the lowest of the low.. that kind of person cannot be described with mere words.. BUT, im totally, %100 against the Death Penalty for any reason. I dont believe anyone, and i mean ANYONE, has the right to take another persons life, unless their life is DIRECTLY in danger from that person, say in self defence or if that person is putting you or anyone else in direct mortal danger. I would kill someone if i had to, if it was me or them, but thats it. You'll never hear me say i wish somebody was killed or executed. I mean, who decides who should be executed? If we decide, then we decide based on our own code of ethic, our own morals, but whos to say we're right? Dont get me wrong, im not defending Saddam at all, i just dont think anyone should ever be executed. One of the arguements for the death penalty goes like this: If in America, the death penalty was abolished, then all the people on Death Row would have to spend the rest of their lives in jail.. keeping someone in jail costs money, it costs the government money, which in turn costs the tax payer, me and you, money. i personally dont believe money ios a factor when talking about a persons life, so that arguement isnt valid.. anyway, im getting off the subject... all i wanted to say, was yes i hate saddam hussein as much as the next guy, but i dont think he, or anyone else, should be executed..

peace

[GHoSToKeR]

Edit: I realise, that being from Jersey in the UK, i dont have friends, family, or people near me that have died fighting against Saddam, so my life hasnt been affected by him as it has for alot of people. I apologise ive i offended anyone, and i can see how alot of people wish Saddam to be dead, its perfectly understandable, i just dont wish it myself :)

[SomeDude]

Actually, in the us, it costs us more on average to execute most people than it would to keep them in prison for life, due to appeals. I don't think that someone should be executed unless they are guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt, and while this is usually not the case, even though the standard is beyond reasonable doubt, that is the case with Saddam Hussien.

I think the purpose of the death penalty is not really in the punishment of the gulty, but the appeasement of the victims...so, i dunno...

[DrGonzo]

well, ghosttoker, I see what you mean...I personally can't think of a single person that I know personally, who is off 'fighting the "so-called {good fight}"' (sorry, lots of stuff in quotations there)...but I'm not ragging on Saddam in particular, he was just the first name to come to mind; also, I was sober when I started this thread. this post is pretty damn drunk.


as to SomeDude, I dunno if I believe that a single injection (electric chair, gas chamber, what have you...canada don't have death penalties, so I have to rely on 'movie knowledge' for this) costs more than 25 years (canada life sentence) of appeals? but the shadow of a doubt thing I definately agree with. grade 12 law class taught me well about THAT subject.

and death penalties are really for the victims...by the time the trials and the appeals and all the court BS is over, personally, I would be glad for death.

but then again, I get bored pretty easy, that's why I'm not a lawyer officially.

[GHoSToKeR]

the death penalty, for me, is a tricky subject. I hate it. like i said before, i dont want anyone dead. but then after saying that i see the news or read a newspaper, and see people getting murdered, kids getting kidnapped, tortured, raped, killed.. i see the sickest people on this earth getting protected and defended because of their "human rights" when they violate their victims rights in the most disgusting and inhumane ways possible.. i dunno what i think... i hate the death penalty, but sometimes, i guess, death is the only punishment worthy of some of these people... and i suppose, if some sick fuck had just killed someone in my family, i want the motherfucker dead too, it is mainly for the victim, like you said.. but ive been told by a close friend of mine living in california, that when someones done somethin to someone close to you so bad that they get the death penalty, all you want is closure... but closure never comes, even after that persons dead..

[YES]

So many conflicting emotions when i think on this.

In one opinion, if you were wanting Saddam dead, killing him the moment he was caught would be too good a way for him to die. He deserves to be tortured as he tortured his people and so many others. Pumping bullets in him is almost and instant death and not at all what he deserves.

But on the other hand, i agree with Ghostoker. Who are we to take a human life. Being a bit of a philosopher and theologion, this would be playing God. You dont want to play God.

And I would completely understand when Saddam is sentenced to death. As he most likely will be. I just wouldnt want the decision to be up to me.

He is an animal no doubt about it.

And where is Osam? I havent really been following that story lately.