Drippers added, can I run them all the time?

[jaxtokin]

Take alook and let me know. I am worried there is too much water running and I am over watering.


Also, my girls are 15 days into 12 on 12 off how do they look? Not sure what strain.

[karmaxul]

I dont see any drippers. Is this before you added them. Drippers go in the end of the tubes and drip very slowly. Those plants look like they are getting a high tds (to many ferts) but most likely do to the fact that they are over watered as apposed to your mix is to high in the NPK department. You may want to put them in soil or put your watering system on a timer untill you get drippers for your lines. 15 min every 4 hours may work with your setup but it is a new method to me in terms of how much water is pouring out of the tubing. Do you adjust your ph? I ask because that is why your leaves are dieing. It may be do to your medium such as the rock wool collecting to many fertilizer ions. The roots need air. Your rockwool also needs to be flushed with water and a bit of H2O2 hydrogen peroxide. I would use one tsp or 5ml per liter of 2 % pure but get a second opinion. Do you have an algae problem in your res.?

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[jaxtokin]

You do not see the black hoses with the water "dripping out" from the drip ends? The box clearly stated "drippers"; based on your diagnosis the manufacture could have been mistaken.

The drippers were added only minutes prior to the pictures being taken and at the end of the weekly maintenance cycle which explains the dried leaves, so that would be yes the ph is controlled weekly by water changes. As for
H2O2, never read anything about that, would you happen to have any pics of your set up I am curious to see what these techniques look like in action so to speak.


So 15 minutes on every 4 hours for drippers?

[latewood]

It looks to me that perhaps you don't have enough light!

they are stretched and spindly...get your light as close as possible without burning them...put fan blowing between them and canopy...goodluck

I tried to buy your unit off ebay a while back...It is an ebb and flow system...although drippers are great,imho
ebb and flow is ...SSOOO, simple...and easy to dial in.

I run my drippers full-on during thr light photoperiod and 15 min. on 1 hour off during lights-out...hope this helps

drippers come in many shapes and sizes...I just use simple 1/4" 90's instead of designed drippers.

[Zandor]

It looks to me that perhaps you don't have enough light!

they are stretched and spindly...get your light as close as possible without burning them...put fan blowing between them and canopy...goodluck

I tried to buy your unit off ebay a while back...It is an ebb and flow system...although drippers are great,imho
ebb and flow is ...SSOOO, simple...and easy to dial in.

I run my drippers full-on during thr light photoperiod and 15 min. on 1 hour off during lights-out...hope this helps

drippers come in many shapes and sizes...I just use simple 1/4" 90's instead of designed drippers.

What he said....mostly I still prefer drip systems. :smokin:

[karmaxul]

I have never seen dripper pushing water at that speed right at the stem, do you two experts have any educational insight for me. Thanks in advance

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[jaxtokin]

Emily's Garden Hydroponic System http://www.hydroponics.net/i/290053
$79.95 had it up and running in hours, not a plug it's a decent starter and has given me many ideas for a bigger set up.

Thanks for the dripper schedule, that is close to what I went with. I figure while the lights are on more water flow would really give the girls some cooling down.


Any links or photos of set ups?

[jaxtokin]

Flows 2 1/2 gallons every 35 - 37 minutes. Had it running for 17 hours they look greener more perky, can't wait to start the next one.

[latewood]

I have never seen dripper pushing water at that speed right at the stem, do you two experts have any educational insight for me. Thanks in advance

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c1st off...In hydro the more nutrient solution and oxygen you can supply to the roots the better. In both DWC and NFT or Drip you have mature root system in water all the time...

Now another important thing to realize is that neither of us grow in Rockwool. Using hydroton or perlite or inert rocks
allows such great drainage that you are constantly flushing fresh-oxygenated nutrient solution over/thru/,etc. the root system.

Only in units, usually ebb and flow, using rockwool slabs, would you run into a over-wet problem, because as we all know rockwool retains moisture over long periods of time.

I hope I explained my take on this clearly enough for you...
Keep in mind, I am just passing on "my" beliefs through trial and error. Not gospel, just my opinion. OH yeah, and it's 5 am...lw

[karmaxul]

thanks much appreciated.

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[Zandor]

latewood ?..so u if im using hydroton rocks i can leave the drippers on 24/7???? with no worries? NOTING that i keep up on ph/nutes,ect? jc?

You can yes....and if you need to cut back when they are young you can feed them 15 on every hour in the dark and run it back to full on when the lights are on. :thumbsup:

[plastik]

I noticed that if you don't feed 24/7, you get problems. (that is if you dont have a 15-30 min on/off cycle)

one example: plant 1 in a drip system with a 1 1/2 hour on/off (on a 24hour timer) with 2-6'' airstones, I noticed leafs looking like they have nute lock out or deficiency, or even look burnt. The roots began to brown and root rot eventually took over.

example 2: plant 2 in a drip system with 24/7 drip schedule, WITHOUT any air stones, I noticed the roots were really healthy, and grow very nicely, with no problems what so ever.

I do believe that a max 30min on/off schedule or 24/7 cycle causes roots to penetrate to the res. alot easier. With a longer cycle, roots often don't make it too far out of the container, and to the water, and barely hang. I noticed they have also gotten root bound in the bottom of the netcups, just around the rim. making them interweave and tangle, causing them to become in an 'O' shape, about an inch thick all around. Just from what I've seen. Could be other factors.

[u.g.u]

just lower your ppms is all you need to do plants that size on a continues drip under a 1000 watt light should only be at about 400 ppm give or take 200 depending on the strain.