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britewire
03-08-2006, 07:15 PM
I just set something up I'm going to try out this time. The extreme EC values is because I want to get the most out of the plant possible.I'm gonna build the EC too 2.6 untill the point of overfeeding, when I see the first signs of Nitroger burn I'm gonna drop the EC 20% and try too keep it on there.

As we say in the Netherlands, let's see where this ship strands.

karmaxul
03-08-2006, 10:00 PM
I hope your not going to smoke that if you are using chemicals or you just doing it to see how a plant dies do to lock up? Usually 1 mS/cm EC=700 PPM at 68°F so your saying you are going to use 1820ppm. For hydro I would not go over 400ppm and for soil watering every two days I dont go over 100ppm. That is what some companies recommend yet the foliage always burns. Keep in mind that the plant uses the most nitrogen then K then P. P can be stored in the plant more then the other nutrients.
What numbers are you going to use?
Organic?
Chemie?
Medium?
Frequency of watering?
Plant size and medium volume?
CO2 level?
Lumen intensity?

All of this will be factors in the experiment that are important.

Keep us informed.

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britewire
03-09-2006, 10:38 AM
I´m using organic grow and bloom nutrients with the numbers for: grow 2-1-6, Bloom 0-5-4. At the first visual signs of blooming I´ll start with a bloom enhancer with the numbers PK-13-14, and after that I change the numbers to PK9-18.

Frequentie of watering is when I decide they need water, normally that´s about every other day. CO2 level is not important... Lumen intencity is 2x 600 watt that´s with my bulbs about 180.000 lumen on 1.5 square meters.

O yeah.. I grow on a low nutrient soil with about 10 percent perlite.

karmaxul
03-09-2006, 05:36 PM
How high are the lights as lumens are cut in half each foot they travel.
Sounds like good experiment.

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britewire
03-09-2006, 07:15 PM
How high are the lights as lumens are cut in half each foot they travel.
c


I've got cooltube armatures so I can hang the light on a minimum distance of 1 foot from the plants. So that's about 90.000 Lumen If I'm correct

britewire
03-09-2006, 07:26 PM
This is the product of balancing on the extremes of plant nutricion and perfect conditions.

karmaxul
03-09-2006, 07:42 PM
Well I must say them are some giant colas. Got any closeups?
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Thats a 1000watt HPS bulb kicking out 180,000 lumens? That is more effecient then any bulb I have ever heard of. The most effecient is the low pressure sodium at 200 lumens per watt. Flouros are around 180 lumens per watt but high watt flouro such as the 600 watt bulbs produce RF waves. ( I used them when I made fiber optic cable). You using three 600 watters? A 430 son agro I thought was the most effiecent at 53,000 lumens which is 123 lumens per watt.

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britewire
03-09-2006, 07:46 PM
Those are 2 600W Philips son te+ bulbs... Those are 90.000 (see reason for editing) lumen each.. I didn't calculate the amount of light the lightspreaders absord though..

britewire
03-10-2006, 09:09 PM
Well I must say them are some giant colas. Got any closeups?



They arn't mine I'm sad to say. These plants are grown with about the same nutrients and pushed too the extremes aswell. I'm sorry to say I'm at work so I'm limited to the pictures I've got online, and it ain't a lot.

Anybody have any tips for me regarding this subject?

Tomorrow I'm starting with my 12/12 cycle.