Trimming Fan Leaves

[sheist]

I kno that when u harvest, u gotta trim the fan leaves n all that..

what if you were to trim the fan leaves during flower?? wouldnt the stran focus the energy into the shoots??

[karmaxul]

The fan leaves make the food for the shoots.

one love
c

[sheist]

lol case closed.. NO trimming the fan leaves.. thanks "c" for the tip

[karmaxul]

You can stop the hieght growth of a cola by triming the fan leaves that are coming out of the top of the plant when the leaves are very very small making the cola thicker. Try it in veg aswell to closen the nodes before flowering youll enjoy it.

One love
c

[sheist]

yeah i kno that, thats topping.. i plan to do that too...

[karmaxul]

O I thought topping was cutting the top of the plant stem not just the fan leaf on the top allowing others to grow afterward but making the nodes closer.

One love
c

[Earthy Dank]

During vegetative you can pull shoots off as soon as you see them and this will make it put more energy into the main stems/buds. Resulting in taller plants and bigger buds. Don't do it too much though. If you pull too many the it will decrease your yeild. But if you do it mildly it can actually increase your yeild.

[karmaxul]

When I grow single cola short plants and say I get one or two branches. I let the leaves stay but pull off the shoots that produce the buds to concentrate the energy on the single cola.

One love
c

[oldsanclem]

fan leaves
do not move air
do take photons and make food to grow and produce buds.
Removing fan leaves is like putting bricks in you gas tank, to save, money,, to fill up the tank.

[Garden Knowm]

fan leaves
do not move air
do take photons and make food to grow and produce buds.
Removing fan leaves is like putting bricks in you gas tank, to save, money,, to fill up the tank.

WOW

NICE OLD

FUCK...

I LOVE THAT PICTURE...

you are COOL!!!!!!!!!

LOVE

I nominate this as the best post for the month of MARCH!!!!!!!!!


I agree
dont cut fan leaves...

although i would bet that DANK knows how to grow like a champ...

[sheist]

so pulling off shoots = sacrifice a few buds to get better buds..?:confused:

[Sinsemilla Jones]

But I do have to do it twice as often.
:p

I think it's more like removing the engine to get gas straight to the wheels....
:rasta:

Or having your intestines removed to shit faster.....
:dance:

Or cutting off your balls to fuck better.
:eek:

Cutting fan leaves that is.
:pimp:

[captaincannabis]

Hey Sheist whats up?I strip my plants completely and often.Once they get established ,about 8" 2 a foot I top the main node,and pinch the leaves at the same level.Once the two new branches appear and have three new nodes each I top them also and any other branches coming up also.And a few leaves ,the upper ones ,so light can get to the lower growth and cause it to grow up with the rest of the plant.Once this grows back in,I top every thing in sight and strip all leaves except for a few,very few.and bend the upper branches out and down ,so to let more light into the lower branches,the plant begins to have a nice big round look to it.The reason for stripping the leaves is simple BUDS COME FROM BRANCHES NOT LEAVES.The plant will grow without tons of water drinking,sun blocking leaves.This works best if you feed them really good with Elanors VF11 lawn food 35-85-55 and superthrive and miracle grow azaela food 30-10-10.the branch growth will surge without leaves
trust 35 years of experience.The idea is to devolop a cycle let them bush ,strip promote branch growth,let them bush,strip promote branch growth.
this is an advanced technique like the forum says.so practice on 1 or 2 plants until you see the method of the madness.Dont let anyone tell you this wont work.Once you understand it and get it down your yields will trip you out.And this much time working on each plant provides alot of closeup time where you are emitting co2 all over them just by being there and giving them the love
Gotta'Grow

[Earthy Dank]

"The reason for stripping the leaves is simple BUDS COME FROM BRANCHES NOT LEAVES.The plant will grow without tons of water drinking,sun blocking leaves.This works best if you feed them really good with Elanors VF11 lawn food 35-85-55 and superthrive and miracle grow azaela food 30-10-10.the branch growth will surge without leaves
trust 35 years of experience.The idea is to devolop a cycle let them bush ,strip promote branch growth,let them bush,strip promote branch growth."


Theres 35 years of experience I don't trust...
"BUDS COME FROM BRANCHES NOT LEAVES."
That was my favorite part.:)
YOur buds must be the size of raisens

[Moose101]

I'm just learning right now so what I say might seem real dumb. But seeing how fan leafs are used in the food production wouldn't it make sense to make more of them thru pruning? Maybe only take 1 or 2 stems off untill they grow back.

[Earthy Dank]

Your big fan leaves are your biggest solar panels that power the plant. Sure new ones form but why take them off in the first place? Prunning slows growth and is used to make plants small and bushy.If the fan leaves do not get good light then it would be good to remove them but don't try to fix something that isn't broken. Just let it grow...

[rodekyll]

I've been under the impression that a slightly elevated ph is favored by cannabis. I use miracid to up the acid, maybe twice a month, in place of my regular fert. I've spaced out and used it for entire crop cycles without ill effects. If anything, it makes for deeper green leaves. Does someone want to correct me here?

[Earthy Dank]

Cannabis likes a slightly lower pH (acid loving).

"When growing marijuana, I like keeping the pH between 6.0 to 7.0. This seems to be the best pH range to ensure there is no nutrient lock-up occurring, 6.4 to 6.6 is ideal."

Most fertilizers cause a pH change in the soil. Adding fertilizer to the soil almost always results in a more acidic pH.

As time goes on, the amount of salts produced by the breakdown of fertilizers in the soil causes the soil to become increasingly acidic and eventually the concentration of these salts in the soil will stunt the plant and cause browning out of the foliage.

Also, as the plant gets older its roots become less effective in bringing food to the leaves. To avoid the accumulation of these salts in your soil and to ensure that your plant is getting all of the food it needs you can begin leaf feeding your plant at the age of about 1.5 months.

Dissolve the fertilizer in worm water and spray the mixture directly onto the foliage. The leaves absorb the fertilizer into their veins. If you want to continue to put fertilizer into the soil as well as leaf feeding, be sure not to overdose your plants.

[Sparrow]

Dissolve the fertilizer in worm water and spray the mixture directly onto the foliage. The leaves absorb the fertilizer into their veins. If you want to continue to put fertilizer into the soil as well as leaf feeding, be sure not to overdose your plants.[/B][/U]

I thought the only place plants could absorb anything was through the stoma which intakes co2.

Alot of ferts have to be transformed by the microbes in the soil to even be useful to the plant.

I do not mean to play devil advocate yet I do not see how folair is benefical.

[Earthy Dank]

Plants can take in water and nutes through its stomatas which are on the underside of leaves. And alot of fertilizers are broken down into plant ready solutions so wouldn't the microbes just use it themselves instead of decomposing the complex nutrients? In my early years I did alot of folair feed and had great results. But now I stick to organics.

[FERMENTATION]

Dissolve the fertilizer in worm water and spray the mixture directly onto the foliage. The leaves absorb the fertilizer into their veins. If you want to continue to put fertilizer into the soil as well as leaf feeding, be sure not to overdose your plants.[/B][/U]



Are you saying "worm water" like worm casting tea? Or was that a typo ment to say "warm water"?

Not meaning to nit pick, just want to be clear as to what exactly you had good results with when foliar feeding.

Peace

[Sparrow]

I found many good sites on google regarding them both and I was going to post them for you but my pc crashed.

[rodekyll]

yeah -- what is worm water? It doesn't sound like anything I want to eventually smoke . . .

. . .and sorry about the brain fart in my previous post. I had meant to say "elevated acid" not "elevated ph".
I keep the ph between 6.5 and 7.0. My emperical studies tell me that within reason, higher ph levels make for a more vital plant -- right up to where you plug up burn the roots out from under them. I've gone on about salts in other posts, I won't here.

But I digress . . . Fan leaves are placed by design where they are for reasons. They store water and food in caches along the length of the plant. Just like it's easier for fish to climb a fish ladder than jump a waterfall, or a worker to move a ton one pound at a time, it's easier for the plant to "hand" what it needs from one leaf level to the next than it is to pump it straight from the roots to the growing tip. That's what you're causing to happen if you get too crazy cutting off sun leaves. Makes for an unhappy camper.

If you look at a plant closely, you'll notice that the nodes aren't really set opposite each other. They generally have a right-handed -- though sometimes left-handed -- upward spiral. Being left-handed myself, I notice these things. (factor handedness into your genetic theories, guys!) Messing with the progression of leaves ultimately messes with the orderly uptake of nutes, especially during "shock" events such as drought, forgetting to fertilize, salting up, heatstroke, etc.

Having said that, I advocate bending and kinking plants in small space to grow them horizontal. It's the length of the plant, not the height that makes the difference, and you can literally wind up a pot plant like you wind the base of an antenna, getting many feet of stem more than you have ceiling space. This and a lot of other growing methods have the unintentional side effect of benefiting from trimming the leaves I just told you why you shouldn't trim. Since you're growing horizontal, there are no big steps from one node to the next, and the plant isn't working as hard to suck up food. Also, roughly a third of the leaves and branches along the main stem won't get a chance to grow upward and will suffer for lack of light. They'll also get balled up together, hold moisture, and breed disease and flies. So I cut them off and toss them in a bag to extract essential oils out of later in the year.

Bottom line is it depends on how you grow and why you might be wanting to cut leaves. The plants speak. They will tell you they're done with the leaf when they suck all the goodness out of it and let it go necrotic. But if you think it's gonna have a net positive effect on the plant due to environment or technique, go ahead and cut them. But during "dry" times, NEVER CUT LEAVES FROM GROWING PLANT FOR SMOKING!!! It's not fair to the plants, your yield, or your lungs.

[rodekyll]

crap -- that should have read "higher acid levels" way up there where I didn't proofread . . . :error:

stupid typonese keyboards :stoned:

or maybe it's the puppy chow :rolleyes:

(takes another hit):rasta:

[Earthy Dank]

Forget about the worm water... Just use regular pH nuetral water.

[Dutch Pimp]

Since we'll on the subject, all my fan leaves dried up and fell off just before harvest. Bud was great. I kept the plants VERY dry, two weeks before harvest. Is this normal? Flowered 60 days - some fan leaves- 75 days-very few fan leaves- 90 days- no fan leaves left! I like the couchlock weed!

[stinkyattic]

Since we'll on the subject, all my fan leaves dried up and fell off just before harvest. Bud was great. I kept the plants VERY dry, two weeks before harvest. Is this normal? Flowered 60 days - some fan leaves- 75 days-very few fan leaves- 90 days- no fan leaves left! I like the couchlock weed!

I believe that is in fact perfecly normal. That has been my experience anyway. Think about it; you've been withholding nitrogen for 90 days, it's a mobile nutrient, it's getting sucked out of the old leaves and into the buds.

The dryness too- When I've let crops get really dry at the end I've really liked the result.

[latewood]

Wow, I cannot believe all the mis-information in this thread! some of you have good ideas, but some of you are full of crap...Sorry!

the fan leaves are necessary to uptake oxygen.

Fan leaves are responsible for drawing nutrients...to the top of the plant. If you cut all your fan leaves off. It is like cutting your drip lines short of your netpots and letting the nute solution bleed out all over the floor.

Fan leaves are also built-in temp monitor/stablizers...

If we both veg a plant, and I just grow mine without topping it or hacking off (butchering) the Fan leaves and you decide to top and trim, then top new growth and trim, and again top all the new growth and trim, etc. etc...
You're plant is not going to be growing, because it will be transferring all it's energy to repair the damage; And, then to grow new shoots....All the while My healthy will be flowering beautiful Buds.

Growing is all about creating optimum photosynthesis...
Once you hack a plant all up...Optimum photosynthesis is hard to achieve...peace

lw

[m.g.]

L-dub, this comes up like every other month and i have no idea how it ever got started. no book i know of mentions anything about trimming fan (some call em sugar or sun leaves too) leaves off yet some know-it-all comes along every time it comes up talking about the light needs to be right there! it especially amazes me hearing outdoor growers doing this insane act! this method of drying them out during the last couple weeks before harvest is something i do however and i encourage others to at least try it on a partial crop and see for themselves after the cure is finished. i think it makes for a better end-product, in my experiences. but never take off healthy leaves, especially if removing shade is the only reason...

[YaddaYaddaYadda247]

I dont trim mine. Some of the bottom ones are yellowing 3 weeks into the flowering process, oh well!

[Brother Schenker]

Every successful crop I've ever had was the result of removing the fan/shade leaves.
I began doing so based on an article by "R" in High Times around 1980.
It was titled Pruning for Production.
Has always worked for me. Longer buds and more of them compared to plants whose shade leaves are not removed.

Didn't "R" turn out to be Ed Rosenthal?

Grow 'em however you please. Grow more than you need and give away the surplus for free.:thumbsup:

[oldsanclem]

Latewood:D " Wow, I cannot believe all the mis-information in this thread! some of you have good ideas, but some of you are full of crap...Sorry!"
The ONE fact that most grower (?) leave out is WHAT a crop produces.:stoned: Grams/watts/months (just the FACTS Please)
Oxygen and co2, are produced by the plant, and if nature , grows some damn nice grows with the fan leaves. You would think after a few few million years, there would be POT sticks with just bud. You know I have NOT, seen a large cashcropper taking off the Fan Leaves.
I'll put it out there,,, Growers with a atleast 50 pounds a year Please reply.
Note thats 50 #, cleaned, destemed,dry, cured,:thumbsup: :dance:

[Brother Schenker]

You know I have NOT, seen a large cashcropper taking off the Fan Leaves.
I'll put it out there,,, Growers with a atleast 50 pounds a year Please reply.
Note thats 50 #, cleaned, destemed,dry, cured,:thumbsup: :dance:
cashcropper being the operative word---heartless, greedy pimps who overcharge instead of overgrowing. you'll be old some day and feel ashamed.

[m.g.]

even the lowly 1-2 pound growers i know do not pull fan leaves...only ones i read about doing it are found here and other basic grow rooms. oughtta tell ya something right there!

[Brother Schenker]

I don't understand the fighting attitude about this. I've grown both ways and found by my experience that taking the mutherfucken fan leaves off gives me longer and fatter buds. If it doesn't work for you then so be it. No need to act smug and condescending about your preferred way of doing things. We're here to help each other---that is help each other, not hurt each other.

[m.g.]

lol bro, you're the only one here trying to sound tough with all the cussing and name calling...lol

[oldsanclem]

Given away alot to medical, even a judge, an cops, and some very sick. You know something funny, I never had heard of a cashcropper forcing, people to buy pot.
I must admit pot is so easy to grow, birds even grow it. They even leave the fan leafs on till the seeds come out.
Say do cookies count as payment or thank you's.
Most/all cash croppers do because it simple, easy, Jail time does cost, no mater how you look at it.
"nothing is life is free"
I almost forced a guy to sweep the buds off the floor, with lots of fan leaves. :dance:
It was a hot day and the fan leafs moved to keep him cool.

[Brother Schenker]

"nothing in life is free" is down to human beings. the heartless & greedy charge for everything and charge as much as they can get away with. the kind hearted and truly stoner-spirited seek to help people for as little as possible.

you're either a greedhead or a kind-hearted stoner; you're actions and comments prove which one you are.

everything begins in the Now.
if you fuck up, begin again. start over---in the Now.

[oldsanclem]

I have only got one free bud in a few decades of growing, it was from a cop. :stoned:
Charging med patients is downer if you could be that low. Now showing them how to grow is better. :cool:
Now if your over 30 and do not want to stick your ass out to dry , you buy it.
You know a funny thing chuck a 1/8 a key on the bbq and see how fast they want to buy the rest. You need to add 25% extra for the lost pot on the bbq , but they happly pay extra.:dance: :dance: :dance:
Puff the magic BBQ:thumbsup:
Be Cool keep the fan leafs pointing in the same direction.

[elcheapo]

Sorry Brother Schenker but I agree with the others. And my opinion only comes from my experience. I guess certain strains would behave differently but removing fan leaves usually makes the buds much more leafy and less resinous. From my experience if you maintain correct plant health and node spacing then removal of fan leaves is detrimental. Lower bud sites especially are more likely to suffer if they aren't getting energy from the leaves.
What I'm trying to say is stick with what works for you. I'm leaving them on because it works for me.
When are you clipping the leaves?
Do you have some comparitive pictures?

[Bachelorpads]

I am a die hard SCROG grower and I also believe in the removal of large fan leaves. The most efficient growth on a plant comes from the smaller, new leaves. I consistently remove all large fan leaves that shade any actual buds. And when i say I remove them, I cut them off with abandon. I am always after 10+ ounces per plant and have found that the only way to do this every time is to remove the Larger fan leaves and allow light penetration directly to the buds. I am solely after efficency and understand why one would leave the large fan leaves otherwise. I have found them to be more of a problem then a solution in scrogging. I know this is in direct contrast to the standard rules of growing outside but, inside, in a SCROG, it works, and it works much better then leaving them on the plant. Just speaking from what i have seen and experienced though. It is possible that i am doing something wrong elsewhere that causes this phenomenon.

[latewood]

I was under the impression that scrog (I know you tie a screen to the top of your bucket, right?)B'pads...my impression was that you had plant under screen, then placed buds up through screen, to get light, thus allowing you to leave fans leaves under the screen to perform their function.

and, I agree...I am not preaching for anyone to change anything that works for them. I just try to teach solid proven/published grow methods.

P.s. B'pads methods of fan leave removal is similar to the way commercial tomato growers strip the vine of Big Sucker leaves. peace

[m.g.]

yes, i will concede for scrog and sog, removal of some fan leaves is necessary. i was only speaking from a standard grow point of view.

[Bachelorpads]

I should say i also agree with m.g.

Standard growing should not have fan leaves removed.

Latewood: My goal when I SCROG is to have almost no foilage under the screen at all when budding. If done correctly and the canopy is tall enough, almost no light will penetrate through the screen and all of those fan leaves will die anyway. That is a perfect world and a lb per plant, i usually did not attain this lofty goal and only averaged about 3/4lbs per plant this way.

[Dutch Pimp]

I should say i also agree with m.g.

Standard growing should not have fan leaves removed.

Latewood: My goal when I SCROG is to have almost no foilage under the screen at all when budding. If done correctly and the canopy is tall enough, almost no light will penetrate through the screen and all of those fan leaves will die anyway. That is a perfect world and a lb per plant, i usually did not attain this lofty goal and only averaged about 3/4lbs per plant this way.
A standard is born. ....This may be a first!

[stinkyattic]

Standard growing should not have fan leaves removed. .
I absolutely agree.



Latewood: My goal when I SCROG is to have almost no foilage under the screen at all when budding. If done correctly and the canopy is tall enough, almost no light will penetrate through the screen and all of those fan leaves will die anyway. .

So the prupose of removing fan leaves in SOG/SCROG is simply to have better air circulation and fewer places for pests to hid beneath the canopy.
Now THAT makes sense.
It has nothing to do with "removing leaves so more light hits the bud sites", or whatever .

[seattle420]

the whole idea of FAN LEAVES IS JUST A MYTH!

they are just leaves.

there is no biological or botanical reason to even call them fan leaves!

leave the leaves! let them be.

[tekneeqs]

So when (growing stage) should one trim and where to trim (bottom or top)? Just any big ol' leaf?

[windex]

So when (growing stage) should one trim and where to trim (bottom or top)? Just any big ol' leaf?

I'm wondering the same thing, too. I read the rest of the thread (2nd page) hoping to find more information but it's people arguing :wtf: haha

I want to try both ways (leaving the leaves, trimming the leaves) but what is the proper way going about doing this? I just want to see what kind of results I will get and compare the two.

[stinkyattic]

There's a reason that people are arguing. Some of them were posting absolute bull-caca. Don't trim fan leaves!!!!!There is no 'correct' way to trim fan leaves. It's not a correct technique.
The ONLY time you want to remove fan leaves is in a hydro system where you need access to the drip apparatus and/or air flow around the low stem. In that case, you remove anything up the first 3-4 inches of the stalk, that isn't getting light anyway, to prevent fungus.

[windex]

Discrediting someone's information doesn't have to be arguing.

I guess I'll keep all my leaves intact! Thjanks

[deaner]

I'm goin with stinky and not trimming anymore leaves. I was ?misinformed? maybe? and was trimming some, but some little voice said stop, so I did, but this topic has helped confirm my thinking not to touch them.

[jackdory]

I have to say if you don't try and experiment nothing will ever change. For all the people who can't change and won't well don't tell other people not to. There are many people out there that strip the fan leaves off with great sucess. Go and have a look at International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums - My Perpetual SOG Cabinets are Finally Finished! (http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=95049&page=1&pp=15&highlight=soil)
It might change some of your minds out there. Lets all be honest we all want the same thing from our plants.

[lvburnout]

Well this is my first post and I want to tell you all thank you for the info im working on getting my medical card ive been told I will qualifi no problem but cash is an issue and ive been trying to get my own ladies going so thank you for all your info and Please keep it coming.

[huffypuffy]

I kno that when u harvest, u gotta trim the fan leaves n all that..

what if you were to trim the fan leaves during flower?? wouldnt the stran focus the energy into the shoots??

What takes energy from the top bud is side branches. I trimmed all fan leaves from every side branch. Although it did not kill it, it is like a dwarf compared to her twin sister. The only bad thing about fan leaves is they block light to your side branch buds. constantly arrange fan leaves to keep light on the side branch intersections.

[Michael420]

Psssst...

This thread is from 2006.

[Lowrider999]

Psssst...

This thread is from 2006.

What are you saying? Its Outdated or Just making a point?

[rudy2010]

I agree with Low. This is an old thread but the issue is not resolved. You have some folks saying they trim successfully while there are others who are saying don't trim ever. I trim the leaves on most of my plants. I trim lots of leaves on the Purple Kush and don't trim any leaves from the Pineapple while I trim just some from the Sour Diesel. The PK is thick and bushy and tends to mold even in dry conditions whereas the Pineapple has very thin leaves that let in all the light necessary. It depends on more than your feeling on the subject. It depends on the thickness of the particular strain and how much moisture in room humidity, dew, rain or whatever will be in the environment. Extra bushy plants like Gods Gift, PK, White Kush and such usually benefit from thinning the leaves. I will try to document some trimming this year.

[sunbiz1]

I agree with Low. This is an old thread but the issue is not resolved. You have some folks saying they trim successfully while there are others who are saying don't trim ever. I trim the leaves on most of my plants. I trim lots of leaves on the Purple Kush and don't trim any leaves from the Pineapple while I trim just some from the Sour Diesel. The PK is thick and bushy and tends to mold even in dry conditions whereas the Pineapple has very thin leaves that let in all the light necessary. It depends on more than your feeling on the subject. It depends on the thickness of the particular strain and how much moisture in room humidity, dew, rain or whatever will be in the environment. Extra bushy plants like Gods Gift, PK, White Kush and such usually benefit from thinning the leaves. I will try to document some trimming this year.

Funny this thread came back up, just got done trimming fan leaves here...actually I'm harvesting a plant from the top on down in phases 4/a re-veg project. Hopefully this site stays around long enough to finish the discussion, as it appears the server was down for many days.

[rudy2010]

Glad you mentioned the server. I have been getting tons of server busy try again messages lately too.

I usually trim the fan, sun, sugar leaves too especially when they completely block the light from getting to the lower part of the plant. I trim lots of the popcorn buds off as well. I do outdoor so no harvest til fall but hope to post pics along the way.

[sunbiz1]

Sounds good Rudy, look forward to the pics as summer progresses. I tend to trim fan leaves as well, particularly as they begin to age and lose their ability to produce. And I always seem to get at least one dwarf-like plant no matter what the strain when I grow 6 or more. Those have to get trimmed or the bottom half of the plant produces no bud.

:thumbsup:

[bluntar]

sometimes i like to cut my plants in half and run iver them with a train :wtf:


CHOO CHOO!!!

[rudy2010]

LOL. Must be big plants if you need a train to trim them. Whatever works for you.

[sunbiz1]

LOL. Must be big plants if you need a train to trim them. Whatever works for you.

I'll assume this your attempt at humor...lol.

Hope all is well R,

Biz

[rudy2010]

I was making an attempt at humor. It is not always that easy. I definitely try to difuse any anger I see.

It seems like there is a wide range of opinions on this subject. I do what I feel I have to do for my plants. Anything that molds is a total loss for me. I only need to trim the thickest plants. That still seems to be a no no for some but it is a requirement for me.

Each grower needs to handle the situation as it pertains to their particular plants.

[sunbiz1]

I was making an attempt at humor. It is not always that easy. I definitely try to difuse any anger I see.

It seems like there is a wide range of opinions on this subject. I do what I feel I have to do for my plants. Anything that molds is a total loss for me. I only need to trim the thickest plants. That still seems to be a no no for some but it is a requirement for me.

Each grower needs to handle the situation as it pertains to their particular plants.

As well as the environmental conditions surrounding them(finishing above sentence). We don't have mold problems here(unless you're allergic to air born spores, lol). I know it can be a huge problem for outdoor growers in western Canada south into California during the Fall. I've seen the usual emergency mold postings here in late Summer etc. Some even construct temporary shelters, I know I would if it meant saving a harvest.

[rudy2010]

True. Each situation differs greatly. Especially outdoors. You can't control nature but you can mostly keep it and yourself from ruining your plants.

[seldomBLUE]

is it OK to cut the fan leaves in the last two weeks of flowering?

[sunbiz1]

True. Each situation differs greatly. Especially outdoors. You can't control nature but you can mostly keep it and yourself from ruining your plants.

The more I grow, the more I realize we only need good soil, lots of sun, and a bit of common sense.

Have a great weekend!

[rcpilot04401]

what happens when you have to trim the fan leaves? this is only my second grow, and of course I'm making mistakes...I over fed them and it browned the hell out of the leaves and I had to cut or trim them...will they grow more leaves???

[rudy2010]

seldomBlue - it is OK to trim the leaves at any point that they need to be trimmed. I trim more near the end when it is more obvious which leaves need trimming. I trim mainly to let sunlight and air get to the lower parts of the plants. Any dead or dying leaves as well.

rcpilot - You have to trim any dead or dying leaves or they will help attract spider mites. The plant should generate plenty of healthy leaves when the nutrients are back in balance.

[LuLzBoaT]

I trim all the fan leaves in half almost when I clone to create more room.......however I am having some trouble (trial and error) in exactly where to take my clipping off my mama.......just below a node....or just after. Ive killed like a dozen trying to learn this.....but am getting better I think. Experts, just before or after the node?

Sorry this is old....