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grasshopper420
03-08-2006, 06:01 AM
well ppl i was just browsing the boards and i couldnt help but notice how much 90% of the stoners here hate goths well i am goth and i quite frankly cant see why ........... have we done anything to YOU personally? have i? i see no reason to hate an entire sub-culture for the frivilous and spontaneous acts of a few un named ppl why must the general populataion hate us so? dont get me wrong im not trying the old stereotypical "whoa is me" goth attitude im just asking constructive questions and seeking constructive answers
for instance ppl say the hate us for the clothes and makeup we wear but not all of us wear it i admit i wear eyeliner but this doesnt make me evil or satanic so what buisness is it of John Q. Publics if i should so choose to wear such materials? cmon ppllets spark a healthy debate or something:confused:
PS if you came here for the sole purpose of bashing goths please leave i started this thread for a reason bashing goths isnt it pleasejust ask and answer questions (not insulting questions either if you please)
-Grass:thumbsup:
Its a Plant
03-08-2006, 06:07 AM
Okay, generally I do think of gothic people as either weird or just nuts. That is completely due to my lack of knowledge on the subject. For the most part, the goths I have encountered seem to dress that way simply to go against any sort of conformity or any popular clothing item society deems "hip" or "in". Instead, they are just part of an underground road of conformity, and it really doesn't make any sense to me why someone would claim to be a faithful anti-conformist. Yet you still conform with other goths.
I am just really confused on the whole matter. Just answer me this: what's your own personal reason for dressing like a goth? Is it more than just wanting to express yourself? Really, I want to know.
CocaCola
03-08-2006, 06:08 AM
Someone else her said that "Goth" is just another subculture and I think that's true. It's just group that Goths feel comfortable with... it doesn't matter what you wear or how you wear your "Goth" materials, cause that doesn't mean squat. I hate it when people truly try to be Goth and they become so saturated by their little group that they cease to be indivduals... but a eye make-up and black clothes doesn't make you Goth, so I don't know what to think anymore... do you think you're a Goth? Are you sure?
Goth is the ability to find the art where art seems to be lacking; to find the light in the darkness and embrace it for all its worth...
If this is what being a Goth is about then I'm all for it. Keep up the good work, but lose the clothes.
Its a Plant
03-08-2006, 06:12 AM
Yeah, honestly, why do you consider yourself, or anyone for that matter, to be gothic?
CYRAX
03-08-2006, 06:14 AM
the only reason i dont like 'goth' is cuz they are too sensitive and they gotta live life like every one else, and them talking shit about 'ghetto' people is really what gets me pissed....
i mean the people i chill with would be considered 'ghetto' people and 90 percent of the goths in my school are getting fucked up on a daily basis for talking shit, so is it me, or are some goths not bitches?
CYRAX
03-08-2006, 06:16 AM
oh yeah, they way they look/dress makes me sick as well, doesnt help me to wake up to see some fat guy with black makeup on outside my window in fishnets..... rofl...
CocaCola
03-08-2006, 06:21 AM
How about when you see them... wave or something... they'll probably wave back.
higher4hockey
03-08-2006, 06:29 AM
that is a really good question....i don't like them, yet i don't know why.
you got me thinking.
Garden Knowm
03-08-2006, 06:58 AM
love
notrightquite
03-08-2006, 08:12 AM
The goth look can be awesome on certain girls ... that's all I have to say on it.
StOneD.aS.FuK
03-08-2006, 09:30 AM
im not against goths. theres a goth chick at my college, theres quite a few actually, she is really nice, and the way she dresses suits her. people dont bag her out, but if they do its only because she is different but thats not a bad thing. they socalize with people who arent goths and they arent outcasts. it must be different here. but people seem to accept them. which is great.
get to know them before you judge them.
although i know some goths are total losers, and they are the people that make cool goths look bad.
and i think goth chicks are HOT. :)
Zentetsuken
03-08-2006, 11:35 AM
I have a group of like 20 goths at my highschool. It's sort of silly, as there is clearly not a sense of anti-conformity between so many people. They don't make any trouble necessarilly, but they seem to be tied to the whole anime-loving scene, or online strategy games ... very anti-social. I just think that the girl who shaves her head in to a big ugly mohawk and has 20 face peircings is going to look back at her life in 30 years and probably cry at how ridiculously stupid she was.
chisme
03-08-2006, 01:13 PM
ok this is why i dont like goths:
1. dont matter how dumb they clearly are they have a tendancy to try and talk down to you.
2.they say they dont dress to impress....yet they spend all their pocket money on make-up and then spend hours in the morning fixing their fake coloured hair.
3.allways having the need to put accross to everyone that they are the so called ''evil one'' the one thats ''diffrent'' i said i was playing ffa once and mentioned ogin sum character int he game and a goth nearby run over and started asking me what i know about the borther of thor and shit. when i said no he seemed pleased he knew aboutt his wierd shit and i didnt.
4.im sorry but there is nuthign worse then a fat gothic chick.
5.they take the piss outta my kinda people for wearing the stuff we wear because they say were sheep and follow the crowd.........well how come your all wearing black? your all wearing eyeliner? your all wearing talcum powder on your faces to make your selves look like sumthing outta dracula?.
Shelbay
03-08-2006, 01:21 PM
I don't HATE as you say goths..maybe some people just don't prefer that lifestyle..but hate?? When I go to the Mall I have seen what I guess would be Goth..and yes I did look..along with everyone else but I wasn't mean or full of hate..but how can you dress and act a certain way that is so different from the majority and not expect some attention? Not saying different is bad at all but yes it draws attention. If you walked down the mall smoking these days you get alot more attention than Goths. What is the thing about all the different colored hair? And the white makeup?
chisme
03-08-2006, 01:26 PM
I don't HATE as you say goths..maybe some people just don't prefer that lifestyle..but hate?? When I go to the Mall I have seen what I guess would be Goth..and yes I did look..along with everyone else but I wasn't mean or full of hate..but how can you dress and act a certain way that is so different from the majority and not expect some attention? Not saying different is bad at all but yes it draws attention. If you walked down the mall smoking these days you get alot more attention than Goths. What is the thing about all the different colored hair? And the white makeup?
they had the great idea of showing their individulism by all being white faced with green-black-orange-green hair........good start
HOW ABOUT YOU ALL GO GET YOUR NAILS PAINTED BLA.....oh wait you all do that allready.
highjinx
03-08-2006, 01:33 PM
The goth look can be awesome on certain girls ... that's all I have to say on it.
yeah man i hear ya!:dance: :thumbsup:
benagain
03-08-2006, 03:23 PM
I don't hate goths. I just think they're a little nuts (not necessarily in a bad way:thumbsup: ). Anyone who can stand to wear neck to ankle in heavy all black in 90 something degree weather has something else going on up there.
Strikerrr
03-08-2006, 03:35 PM
i don't like goths either. fuck them. but my neighbors goth i guess and he's alright.
JustSayNo
03-08-2006, 03:38 PM
it's not just GOTH bashing,
it's also GAY bashing (ever noticed to undermine someone on this forum you call them gay),
really it boils down to: the majority rule and anything outside this realm of popularity is considered fair game to pick upon,
they do say that the bully has insecurities that lead him into this behaviour, but I say it is the one thing that brightens up a school day, it is funny slagging someone even though it is also cruel.
Joy.Discovery
03-08-2006, 03:45 PM
you WANT to be classified as a goth? i thought you were all supposed to be 'individuals'. sounds to me like someone is longing for acceptance. be yourself, you know you will in the end anyway
just my '2 cents' on goths
here is why i dont like them. from what i can see, and please feel free to prove me wrong, yeah a lot of goths are nice if you talk to them but it seems like they are desperately looking for personal identity by dressing a certain way and listening to certain shitty music, and also i think it seems like they want to be a part of a group withoutseeming like they want to fit in
sim667
03-08-2006, 06:09 PM
most of the goths i know are ..... how do i say it..... annoying.....they dont talk bout anything but being gothic, some are all right
drinksmokesleep
03-08-2006, 06:19 PM
I dont hate goths.....
Peace
daima
03-08-2006, 06:21 PM
well ppl i was just browsing the boards and i couldnt help but notice how much 90% of the stoners here hate goths well i am goth and i quite frankly cant see why ........... have we done anything to YOU personally? have i? i see no reason to hate an entire sub-culture for the frivilous and spontaneous acts of a few un named ppl why must the general populataion hate us so? dont get me wrong im not trying the old stereotypical "whoa is me" goth attitude im just asking constructive questions and seeking constructive answers
for instance ppl say the hate us for the clothes and makeup we wear but not all of us wear it i admit i wear eyeliner but this doesnt make me evil or satanic so what buisness is it of John Q. Publics if i should so choose to wear such materials? cmon ppllets spark a healthy debate or something:confused:
PS if you came here for the sole purpose of bashing goths please leave i started this thread for a reason bashing goths isnt it pleasejust ask and answer questions (not insulting questions either if you please)
-Grass:thumbsup:
I am no antigothite. welcome .
dai*ma:stoned:
t3chyo
03-08-2006, 06:29 PM
I hate goths cause they assume 90% of the people on these boards think they HATE them....:thumbsup:
highjinx
03-08-2006, 06:32 PM
this thread is a mess. lol:D :stoned:
higher4hockey
03-08-2006, 06:33 PM
watch salt lake city punk. that flick just about sums it all up.
orangeman
03-08-2006, 06:44 PM
I dont hate goths, I dont hate any group of people for no particular reason, if I hate a person it wouldnt be a certain group of people it'd be an individual who has done something to me causing me to hate him. If I make racial comments it isnt aimed at the whole race, only towards that person to make them feel bad or is said as a joke.
Its a Plant
03-08-2006, 07:01 PM
I've seen SLC punk and liked it a lot, but honestly, I have not seen any goth even close to the characters in that movie. No one is that "dedicated" to being gothic from what I can tell.
That being said, Mattew Lillard is a badass.
i hate them cos thats what they want basically
they really piss me off just today on the train a group of em were making loads of noise and being nobheads then going on about chavs its just like shut up you depressing fuckheads
if theres a group of people i dont feel bad kicking in its them
It seems to me that the conforming people are the people who hate goths....people say they are conforming to non-conformity, but surly by joining the majority (of goth haters) you are conforming?
So really everyone is conforming to somthing....which throws the whole conforming thing out the window.
Also you can't really generalise...if you are generalising goths you need to do some thinking....it's a bit like saying every who wears green t-shirts thinks they are the shit....its just not true....yes all the people you have met in green t-shirts may think they are the shit, but the fact is, there are thousands apon thousands of other green t-shirt wearing people who have a COMPLETLY different mind set.
Just because it's not to your taste doesn't mean it's not good....
sorry if I just had a bit of a pointless rant...but I hate people who generalise and stereotype people....
lol...you can tell this thread is full of kids....lol...myself included....
grasshopper420
03-08-2006, 08:55 PM
full of kids eh? well i would like to say im not a kid i am 19 which makes me a legal adult here in the us of a but thats not my point i think ive seen what i wanted from starting this thread ppl really dont know why they hate goths and therefore dont really hate them ithink ppl hate who they are taught to hate i hate noone i think its time to light up a j with everyone who posted here for speaking there mind and not bashing everyone honestly i thought this thread would be a bombshell but you ppl were actrually very mature about it thank you and baked beans to all
lol thats why I included myself....im only 20...I still consider myself a kid....I agree with what you said
...although you can see that some people are pretty narrowminded....I just get pissed off with the stereotypes that goths (and everything else) get....some people ask for it....some people give other people a bad name......there are some people who think it's cool to look a certain way....but I mean wtf is "cool"...somthing that you like? somthing that is excepted by your peers? "cool" is a load of shit....but yea....I just wish people wouldn't judge people by their image...
as I said in the other thread about goths....
wear whatever the fuck you what whenever the fuck you want....dont let anyone stop you....
but yeah i know what you mean...
:)
dopesmoker
03-08-2006, 09:14 PM
i dont hate goths in general i just dislike the majority of goths where i am. They walk around with big heavy make up and trenchcoats and shaved heads. And walk with no emotion on their face. The ones around here all seem to want "ordinary" people to dislike them and they dont even say hi or try to talk to other non gothic people. but thats just in my area and we dont have many goths
highjinx
03-08-2006, 09:25 PM
beef jerky anyone?:dance:
grasshopper420
03-08-2006, 09:31 PM
*cordially accepts the beef jerky* thank you i like beef jerkey
highjinx
03-08-2006, 09:33 PM
your welcome grasshopper! beef jerky is the shit!:thumbsup:
420purplehaze420
03-08-2006, 09:40 PM
Its ignorance at its finest
Euphoric
03-08-2006, 09:44 PM
Beef jerky is murder wrapped in plastic. Enjoy your salted lack of animal rights!! :cursing:
Anyway hi there grasshopper whats up and such. Whats your favorite bands? Your take on hot topic? Favorite hellraiser movie? :stoned:
AZ :thumbsup: seems to have a fairly evolved take on the conformity issue, while others have very simple opinons, as if they were formed right here on the spot. Oh well, I'm sure there are plenty of topics I dont give much thought to...no, not really. Ahah
Bottom line, for some it is a natural lifestyle (core) for others it is a shallow effort to fit in(poseurs).
The beauty of cannabis is it's ability to easily span every culture and subculture on earth. :thumbsup:
Ablaze.
03-08-2006, 09:44 PM
i dont have a problem with goth people. just dont understand they wear eye liner and shit. just like i dont understand why people still wear cowboy hats...lol
but i dont hate on them, no reason to hate on people because there differnt.
PureEvil760
03-08-2006, 09:46 PM
yo i never seen nobody hatin on goths..wait u know what just wastin my time postin here fuck it
daima
03-08-2006, 09:50 PM
I hate goths cause they assume 90% of the people on these boards think they HATE them....:thumbsup:
90% ?
They say 3 percent of the people use 5 to 6 percent of their brain
97 percent use just 3 percent and the rest goes down the drain
now i dont know which one i am but i'll bet you my last dime
99 percent think we're 3 percent 1oo percent of the time
They say 64 percent of all statistics are made up right there on the spot
84.4 percent of the people believe'em whether they are accurate statistics or not
Now i dont know what you believe but i do know there's no doubt
I need another hit of THC, i got too much to think about
Too much to think about
Too much to figure out
Stuck between hope and doubt
It's too much to think about
97 percent of everything you learn in school is just bullshit you dont need
81 percent of everything you got you bought to satisfy your greed
Because 86 percent of the whole population links possessions to success
Even though 80 percent of the wealthiest 1 percent drinks to an alarming excess
More money more stress
84 percent of all statisticians truely hate their jobs
They say the average bank robber lives within say a mile of the bank he robs
There's this little bank not far from here i've been watching now for a while
Lately all i can think about's how bad i want to go out in style
Too much to think about
Too much to figure out
Stuck between hope and doubt
It's too much to think about :dance: :dance: :dance: :D
dai*ma 33.9 percent not here 66.1 percent of the time:confused:
420purplehaze420
03-08-2006, 09:51 PM
It seems to me that the conforming people are the people who hate goths....people say they are conforming to non-conformity, but surly by joining the majority (of goth haters) you are conforming?
So really everyone is conforming to somthing....which throws the whole conforming thing out the window.
Also you can't really generalise...if you are generalising goths you need to do some thinking....it's a bit like saying every who wears green t-shirts thinks they are the shit....its just not true....yes all the people you have met in green t-shirts may think they are the shit, but the fact is, there are thousands apon thousands of other green t-shirt wearing people who have a COMPLETLY different mind set.
Just because it's not to your taste doesn't mean it's not good....
sorry if I just had a bit of a pointless rant...but I hate people who generalise and stereotype people....
lol...you can tell this thread is full of kids....lol...myself included....
ha ha i hate those green shirt wearing fuckers, they think there sooo cool
slipknotpsycho
03-08-2006, 09:58 PM
goth isn't a clothing label, a color of clothes, a sickness, a 'weirdity' or any other one thing.... it's a lifestyle..
grasshopper420
03-08-2006, 11:29 PM
wellgood sir im neiter depressed nor emotionalin any way right now however i didnt ask for you opinion on this thread only the gothic culture so please next time you feel like being rude go to another thread i reccomend a nice "i get butthurt too easily" thread to all who were keeping the peace sotospeak thank you and sorry for the inconveinience
JuggaloAtTheDoor
03-09-2006, 01:49 AM
juggalos (if u got any idea what they are..) are hated on a ton too, b/cuz Insane Clown Posse's lyrics r too rough for normal people, and what not, then people just followed the haters.. but the people will see sooner or later that whatever someone is claffified it doesn't make them unhuman
AcidFreak
03-09-2006, 01:53 AM
You dress like that knowing full well what some people might say, and that most people might give you funny looks. You just gotta deal with it. I wear tight pants and shit knowing full well I'm gonna get called a fag sometimes, but hey I bet I get more pussy than the guys callin' me fags :D
Jeff Spicoli
03-09-2006, 02:29 AM
juggalos (if u got any idea what they are..) are hated on a ton too, b/cuz Insane Clown Posse's lyrics r too rough for normal people, and what not, then people just followed the haters.. but the people will see sooner or later that whatever someone is claffified it doesn't make them unhuman
no way dude, people hate juggalos because they tend to be retarded fucks
ImStonedNILikeIt
03-09-2006, 02:32 AM
Okay....For one I know lots of people who simply just don't give a fuck what you wear, or what you don't wear. So you wear dark shit, hell I do too, Does that make me a goth?Fuck no. I hate it when people classify me as gothic. I think if you were a true "goth"Like you say you are, you simply wouldn't give 2 fucks if we hate you, or like you.
And two...Don't put yourself n a group. That means your a follower, You wanna be a follower, then take the shit people feeds to you.Fuck off,and cry in your own blood. You know?I'm not trying to be mean, I'm just trying to make the best and most possible understandment for this for you....
Its a Plant
03-09-2006, 02:38 AM
yah ima kinda pissed another goth topic got deleted. Prolly b/c of what I said, but jesus, come on.Ohwell, fuck it. Not worth it.
eddievanzant
03-09-2006, 02:43 AM
Shut the hell up about goths. Are we all so unoriginal we can't do anything but get ideas for new threads from older ones? Sheesh. Goths are losers desperate to be categorized in order to feel more secure.
Baker420
03-09-2006, 02:49 AM
saying your goth is like saying your high when your really not just so people will think your cool....but no one really thinks your cool, just a dumbass for not be true to yourself. :twocents:
Its a Plant
03-09-2006, 02:52 AM
haha, jesus, everyone is so damn uptight. lighten up and let's get high.
NextLineIsMine
03-09-2006, 03:30 AM
Goth is a stupid highschool fad that likes to think it is a unique subculture. Its a little safe haven for kids without a group until they mature enough to realize that the make up looks pretty stupid on their face.
Hippies had a goal, they wanted to spread peace and awareness (even if some were posers) Goths just sit around be depressed, doesn't sound very fun.
Its a Plant
03-09-2006, 03:36 AM
that south park episode they did on goths basically summed it all up : There is no goal other than sit in the cemetary writing poetry while its raining. Plus it was so damn funny.
soxsuk6432
03-09-2006, 03:36 AM
I have alot of friends who happen to be goth I don't understand how you could ahte an entire group of people espeacially since most of them aren't dickheads. And hangout with people because of there personality not how popular they are. But i don't like there music taste.
eddievanzant
03-09-2006, 04:03 AM
that south park episode they did on goths basically summed it all up : There is no goal other than sit in the cemetary writing poetry while its raining. Plus it was so damn funny. Yeah. I loved how Butters totally pwned them near the end:
[Run-down part of town, night. The conditions surrounding Stan's presence there a week ago are present again, and Butters sobs at the same spot Stan did, at the curb under a working street light. Some shadows move in on him and stop when they cover most of his head] Goth Voice:Look at this. Another tortured soul. Another life of pain. [Butters looks up to see the Goths. Stan isn't shown yet.] Hey Raven, check it out. [Stan, now named Raven, enters the picture] Stan:Butters? Butters:Oh [sniff, wipes away his tears] Uh hey, hey Stan. Stan:What's the matter with you? Butters:[sobbing] Well, mu mu mu girlfriend broke up with me. Henrietta:Did she step on your heart with stiletto heels? Butters:Yeah. [sniff] It sure does hurt. Goth 2:That's cool. I guess you can join up with us if you want. Goth 1:Yeah. We're gonna go to the graveyard and write poems about death and how pointless life is. Butters:Uh, uhm no thanks. I I love life. Stan:Huh? But you just got dumped Butters:Wuh-ell yeah, and I'm sad, but at the same time I'm really happy that somethin' could make me feel that sad. It's like, ih ih, ih it makes me feel alive, you know? It makes me feel human. And the only way I could feel this sad now is if I felt somethin' really good before. So I have to take the bad with the good, so I guess what I'm feelin' is like a, beautiful sadness. I guess that sounds stupid... Goth 1:Yeah. Stan:No. No, Butters, that doesn't sound stupid at all. Butters:Well, thanks for offerin' to let me in your clique, guys, uh but, to be honest, I'd rather be a cryin' little pussy than a faggy Goth kid. Well see ya, Stan. [walks off] Stan:He's right. I don't even know who I am anymore. I like liking life a whole lot more than hating it. Screw you guys, I'm goin' home. [walks off] Goth 2:Go ahead and go back to your sunshine fairytale!
To the most recent poster, we don't hate goths because of the way the look, we hate them because they changed their personality to fit into a group.
potsmokingnome
03-09-2006, 04:41 AM
well ppl i was just browsing the boards and i couldnt help but notice how much 90% of the stoners here hate goths well i am goth and i quite frankly cant see why ........... have we done anything to YOU personally? have i? i see no reason to hate an entire sub-culture for the frivilous and spontaneous acts of a few un named ppl why must the general populataion hate us so? dont get me wrong im not trying the old stereotypical "whoa is me" goth attitude im just asking constructive questions and seeking constructive answers
for instance ppl say the hate us for the clothes and makeup we wear but not all of us wear it i admit i wear eyeliner but this doesnt make me evil or satanic so what buisness is it of John Q. Publics if i should so choose to wear such materials? cmon ppllets spark a healthy debate or something:confused:
PS if you came here for the sole purpose of bashing goths please leave i started this thread for a reason bashing goths isnt it pleasejust ask and answer questions (not insulting questions either if you please)
-Grass:thumbsup:
I personally think Goth is pretty fucking neat! I wouldn't personally dress or present myself in such a manner, but thats just me. I think Gothic sub-culture is very interesting, and Goth Chicks lock fucking hot! The only thing I don't like is when some people start saying they are vampires, just a touch delusional there, and dangerous.
StOneD.aS.FuK
03-09-2006, 05:10 AM
jocks are worse, all my freinds, and the big mass of stoners at my school all hate jocks, they all hang out together in the college cafe, while we all mass on the hill outside, and everywhere.
...them with their stripe shirts and socks pulled right up and gay looking dyed blonde hair.
they think they are cool, but dont releise how many people dispise them.
i hate to sterotype but its true.
im not a goth, i dont wear makeup and shit, i wear the odd cradle of filth shirt, and have a wardrobe full of metal shirts, and wear a cuff but only cause im a pure metal head. actually im into deathmetal more, and i love gothic music, but that doesnt mean i have to wear black all day everyday, and cover my face in corpse paint! people stop me in the street and say what a wicked shirt. damn right!
CocaCola
03-09-2006, 06:13 AM
I have alot of friends who happen to be goth I don't understand how you could ahte an entire group of people espeacially since most of them aren't dickheads. And hangout with people because of there personality not how popular they are. But i don't like there music taste.
I'm not sure wether I agree or not... I can't understand wtf you're saying. But I like the bit about hanging out with people because of their personality and not their culture or religion or popularity. Cause doing that other thing is gay...
grasshopper420
03-09-2006, 06:32 AM
ok ppl i think you missed the point 1st i dont give a shit what others say 2nd i am goth i dont care if ppl think im kool because of it 3rd i started this for an answer to my big Q "y must ppl hate each other" yes goths are the target i referred too but it was simply an experement as i stated earlier and i got my answer ppl dislike others because they choose to be different and for some odd reason ppl who are different are looked down upon but im good now thanks all oh and "its a plant" id gladly accept your invite to get high *lights up a j and passes to IAP
Myth1184
03-09-2006, 06:33 AM
Goth isnt a subculture..it a Art Form
Lily420
03-09-2006, 10:08 AM
I love the whole Morbid look. It really grew on me when i was 15, and until recently i've been buying other things i think are cute with more softer colors like baby pinks and white. lol im more down to earth, natural, almost came out of that 70's show if not too emo or whater.
GOTHS FUCKIN ROCK!!! (meet baca-man!)
ghandi
03-09-2006, 10:40 AM
Are goth's the same as emo's?
highjinx
03-09-2006, 01:46 PM
emu's? emu's are cool!:dance:
eddievanzant
03-09-2006, 08:08 PM
ok ppl i think you missed the point 1st i dont give a shit what others say 2nd i am goth i dont care if ppl think im kool because of it 3rd i started this for an answer to my big Q "y must ppl hate each other" yes goths are the target i referred too but it was simply an experement as i stated earlier and i got my answer ppl dislike others because they choose to be different and for some odd reason ppl who are different are looked down upon but im good now thanks all oh and "its a plant" id gladly accept your invite to get high *lights up a j and passes to IAP
No dumbass. I normally don't resort to name calling but you're a dumbass because you're not listening. People don't hate Goths because they're different: People hate Goths because they either dress in all black n' shit but act happier than everyone else (in which they are classified as poseurs) or because they were once normal but decided to dress black and change their own personality (in which they are true Goths, but still retarded).
No dumbass. I normally don't resort to name calling but you're a dumbass because you're not listening. People don't hate Goths because they're different: People hate Goths because they (in which they are true Goths, but still retarded).
lmao...no dude....
you have just put all the people in the world who you would classify as "goth" into one of two categories.....
....i think that makes you the retarded one....
lol i wasnt going to post in this thread again...but...its really quite amusing.
friendowl
03-09-2006, 11:07 PM
whats a goth
whats a goth
LMAO....please do not ask that question!!
they generally wear black....nailvarnish, lipstick.....if you are genuinly openminded you won't care about them or their "lifestyle" or what ever the fuck you want to call it......but loads of people here seem to have it in for them...to be honest I REALLY can't be arsed to go into it...ill just post some pics to show you....
friendowl
03-09-2006, 11:46 PM
oh like the vampire looking people.
alright i see.
i go to clockwork orange at ruby's
in hollywood.cool music
cool heads but i just dont like when
i see a pretty girl and shes dressed
like beetlejuice
ok some pics for you....so you get a better idea....
but to be honest I really don't think you will care....lol
the last pic I posted is more like what goths should look like....instead of just wearing some makeup and shit....if your going to do somthing you might aswell do it properly or not at all.....or somthing like that!
I should have said above that they stereotypicly wear black...
edit: Sound, sorry didnt see your post above....
eddievanzant
03-10-2006, 01:23 AM
lmao...no dude....
you have just put all the people in the world who you would classify as "goth" into one of two categories.....
....i think that makes you the retarded one....
lol i wasnt going to post in this thread again...but...its really quite amusing.
I apoligise for generalising a group of people that all listen to the same music and dress the same. You should be glad I can put them into two categories as that's one more than most people. Goths are no more interesting than anyone else and standout like sore retarded thumbs because they don't wear anything but black even when it's hot out and because they are no different than anyone else, making a thread about them (or two, or three, or four) is stupid.
Aristotle
03-10-2006, 01:48 AM
I saw the goth representatives on Oprah like 5 years ago(when the goth thing was pretty big) and they admitted that most goths become goths for the sole purpose of garnering attention. Why would any of us like someone like that?
If you're going to be an attention whore, atleast be slutty and have a fake tan.
eddievanzant
03-10-2006, 02:17 AM
I saw the goth representatives on Oprah like 5 years ago(when the goth thing was pretty big) and they admitted that most goths become goths for the sole purpose of garnering attention. Why would any of us like someone like that?
If you're going to be an attention whore, atleast be slutty and have a fake tan.
QFT
EbelEyes
03-10-2006, 02:39 AM
I don't hate goths at all. I don't see a point in hating them. They're nice to me, I'm nice to them. And I am friends with a couple of them, and they're cool people to hang out with.
:dance: This guy is dancing to the beat of the Hallucinogen song I'm listening to!
Jennifer K
03-10-2006, 03:11 AM
Goths are ok. As long as I'm respected I don't care what you are. I love black!:) :dance: :stoned:
StOneD.aS.FuK
03-10-2006, 04:58 AM
AZ,
those pics goth people u posted, yeaa when i said i dont mind goths...those goths just went over board, a bit of black eyelyner, with all the black clothing..sure, but when u start looking like that u deserve to be an outcast. and the last pic, those people dont look cool at all. freak show more like it.
im saying that purely on what they look like, they could be very nice people.
spewf
03-10-2006, 08:49 AM
I don't have a problem at all with the goth look.. but its the way some of them act that gets me.. i've known some of them who would smoke crystal meth and kill animals, and dig up bodies at graveyards and put them in peoples yards..
eddievanzant
03-10-2006, 08:38 PM
Hahahahahahahah.....
Draziok
03-10-2006, 08:41 PM
I don't hate goths... infact they can be quite awsome =)
Nochowderforyou
03-10-2006, 08:47 PM
I have never hated anyone just by the way they look. I've hated people based on their actions and such, but never on their looks. Looks the way you want, and who cares what other people think.
king kong bong
03-11-2006, 03:56 AM
i hate conformity...
UnViaje
03-11-2006, 06:02 AM
its "woe is me"
fat goth chix, lmao
heavy metal dudes who dress up with accessories are the funniest
one guy had red/black striped stockings, arm stockings, wtf. n he acted hard too while i was laid back n amiable/deceptive in hs, one day he wants to play 'body punch' [i'm 6'4" 275 then, & hes less than 5'10" a buck 90]n halfway down the hall to the restroom he asks me wearily if I can fight, i just laughed, it clicked in the guy's head that all that 'dark' music wasnt gonna help him any.
Everyone who ever put themselves in a social category was primed for mind control. I'd say the time I actually was at school I'd kick it with the homies n thugs, but circulate to the preps who had money n loved getting fucked up, great clientele since i punked all the jocks n ripped em off, plus the superficial bytches they had were easy, simple too. the alternative fools, not the goths, were alright, nirvana listening potheads n shyt. actually made some bombs with a few. i think i picked more on the emo chumps, their girls were easy too. if anything, i fucked around with the teachers/staff the most, peices of shit.
sim667
03-11-2006, 04:41 PM
there seems to be a much bigger divide in attitude towards different people in america than there is in here in the UK, as far as im concerned a person is a person..... if the feel they need to belong to a certain subculture then fine.....
king kong bong
03-11-2006, 08:08 PM
its "woe is me"
fat goth chix, lmao
heavy metal dudes who dress up with accessories are the funniest
one guy had red/black striped stockings, arm stockings, wtf. n he acted hard too while i was laid back n amiable/deceptive in hs, one day he wants to play 'body punch' [i'm 6'4" 275 then, & hes less than 5'10" a buck 90]n halfway down the hall to the restroom he asks me wearily if I can fight, i just laughed, it clicked in the guy's head that all that 'dark' music wasnt gonna help him any.
Everyone who ever put themselves in a social category was primed for mind control. I'd say the time I actually was at school I'd kick it with the homies n thugs, but circulate to the preps who had money n loved getting fucked up, great clientele since i punked all the jocks n ripped em off, plus the superficial bytches they had were easy, simple too. the alternative fools, not the goths, were alright, nirvana listening potheads n shyt. actually made some bombs with a few. i think i picked more on the emo chumps, their girls were easy too. if anything, i fucked around with the teachers/staff the most, peices of shit.
you sound like me. i would chill with everyone in highschool, i never had a set group. from thugs to grunges to jocks, i went. i agree with you about the people who put themselves in social category. if you like something just like it and dont get into the whole scene just cuz you think thats the way.
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