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Baker420
03-04-2006, 10:17 PM
Ok, so i went to Target today to get some deoderent(i dont kno how to spell it) and body wash...anyways i was browsing when i saw an Xbox 360 just sitting in the display case...i couldnt believe it! and it was the only one left....the person working said they just got it in today. just two months ago i thought it was hopless to find one anytime soon at the retail price (cuz ebay they were goin for like 750!) anyways, i just wanted to share my joy with everyone!

da haze meister
03-04-2006, 10:23 PM
Xbox360 Sucks Balls. wait it out for the PS3.

hellomandude
03-04-2006, 10:28 PM
Xbox360 Sucks Balls. wait it out for the PS3.

lol I wasn't going to say it as harshly but yea man I just have a feeling the ps3 is going to kick xbox 360's ass. does anyone know where to find information on the ps3? I couldn't find anything on sony's site

Nochowderforyou
03-04-2006, 10:39 PM
I bought a new PS2 for a $150 when I got my Ralph Klein oil check in the mail. I'm perfectly happy with it. Spending $400-$600 on a silly game machine is ludacris. Those people need to get-a-life.

Thehulkster321
03-04-2006, 10:40 PM
ps3 aint gunna be out for a loooooooong time, i bought a 360 ... not many games out right now but i like it and when ps3 comes out i'll buy that too lol im not gunna sit and wait for it.

Baker420
03-04-2006, 10:46 PM
I bought a new PS2 for a $150 when I got my Ralph Klein oil check in the mail. I'm perfectly happy with it. Spending $400-$600 on a silly game machine is ludacris. Those people need to get-a-life.

i spent $300...and its not ludacris. whats ludacris is spending $300 on a fucking OZ of some weed that will be gone in a week. At least i spent my money on something that i will use and will last a long time.

hellomandude
03-04-2006, 10:47 PM
i spent $300...and its not ludacris. whats ludacris is spending $300 on a fucking OZ of some weed that will be gone in a week. At least i spent my money on something that i will use and will last a long time.

Hey man, you cant use that...

You're name is Baker420!!! :D:)

lol Just chill, the guy has a right to his opinion :thumbsup:

God v2.0
03-04-2006, 11:01 PM
seriously, i GAVE AWAY my xbox and about $200 worth of games to a less fortunate friend of mine, hes 21 and has to take care of his little sister and usually his 2 brothers.

Nochowderforyou
03-04-2006, 11:04 PM
i spent $300...and its not ludacris. whats ludacris is spending $300 on a fucking OZ of some weed that will be gone in a week. At least i spent my money on something that i will use and will last a long time.

Who says I pay $300 on an ounce that will be gone in a week?

Relax man. Yeesh.

iamenfuego
03-04-2006, 11:11 PM
i have 360 and its amazing. PS3 is gonna cost 700 dollars and 200 dolalrs more for a hardrive and 70-80 a game so suck my balls all u PS2 and 3 pussies. and xbox live is the best online gaming program, PS3 will never beat it.

hellomandude
03-04-2006, 11:14 PM
and xbox live is the best online gaming program, PS3 will never beat it.


How can you compare XBOX 360 to a system that isnt even out yet?? :confused: :p I think you are just feelin' the burn :p Don't worry man, I will let you come over and play mines when I get it :dance:

eddievanzant
03-04-2006, 11:14 PM
To the person who asked about information, person, meet wikipedia. Wikipedia, meet person.
Bookmark it bitch: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PS3

Anyways, I wouldn't buy either one, at least for a while. Xbox is obviously going to be the least able of the three, and with the precedence of the original, it's safe to say the 360 will have no good games. The PS3 will be a good buy 2 years after it comes out: The price will be down, and SONY has said they expect it to be powerful enough to stay in the market for a decade. If I buy any console ever again, it will be the Nintendo Revo. There are so many things it has over the competition. It will have graphics only topped by the PS3, the largest library of games (I know, any system can have emulators to largen the library), and it will live up to its name by being revolutionary. I read a review of a beta edition of the new remote control and it was said to control FPS better than a mouse/keyboard. The two things that will make it a great seller is the games, something that SONY has matched and Microsoft has been thoroughly whipped, and it's price. It will be under 200 at launch.
The reason I said "If I ever buy a console again," is because... in a superior-ish voice, PCs are sooooooo much better! Best games, best graphics (yes best), lowest price (upgrading one or two parts every few years instead of a new console + new controllers + new accessories)= MOST FUN, and that's what it's all about, right? most fun.

da haze meister
03-04-2006, 11:14 PM
not to be a dick or anything. but this is
Ludicrous
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=ludicrous
Ludacris
http://www.misionurbana.com/artistas/Ludacris/wallpapers/ludacris4_1024.jpg
just thought you'd like to know :rasta: :rasta: :rasta:

amsterdam
03-04-2006, 11:16 PM
Playstation 3 is gonna blow the doors off the 360. It is gonna cost between 4 and 5 hundred bucks. My buddy ordered his 360 like 7 months ago and got it two weeks ago for about 800$$$.I played the 360 a shit load and it isn't that impressive. Have you even seen the trailor for Metal Gear 4??WOW!!!

God v2.0
03-04-2006, 11:16 PM
All you people are idiots, you're a slave to a company and you're pathetic. Video games are not real life and they have NO AFFECT on any skills you use in real life. Every second you play a game is a second you will never get back because you wasted it so stupidly.

hellomandude
03-04-2006, 11:16 PM
To the person who asked about information, person, meet wikipedia. Wikipedia, meet person.
Bookmark it bitch: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PS3


Wow, alot of people are hostile here huh??? :confused: ;)

iamenfuego
03-04-2006, 11:17 PM
How can you compare XBOX 360 to a system that isnt even out yet?? :confused: :p I think you are just feelin' the burn :p Don't worry man, I will let you come over and play mines when I get it :dance:

well PS@ online sucked balls and they Sony hasnt planned one thing yet on there online everyone knows in the online console world xbox live is the best.

Nochowderforyou
03-04-2006, 11:17 PM
not to be a dick or anything. but this is
Ludicrous
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=ludicrous
Ludacris
http://www.misionurbana.com/artistas/Ludacris/wallpapers/ludacris4_1024.jpg
just thought you'd like to know :rasta: :rasta: :rasta:

Damn! I got owned by a 15yr old! :p

Nice one man. You got me. :thumbsup:

iamenfuego
03-04-2006, 11:17 PM
How can you compare XBOX 360 to a system that isnt even out yet?? :confused: :p I think you are just feelin' the burn :p Don't worry man, I will let you come over and play mines when I get it :dance:

well PS2 online sucked balls and they Sony hasnt planned one thing yet on there online for PS3. everyone knows in the online console world xbox live is the best.

amsterdam
03-04-2006, 11:18 PM
I got my 360 the day it came out. I sold it on e-bay 4 weeks later cause I was so disappointed and made 3x what I paid for it. Sony all the way, you'll see.

hellomandude
03-04-2006, 11:18 PM
All you people are idiots, you're a slave to a company and you're pathetic. Video games are not real life and they have NO AFFECT on any skills you use in real life. Every second you play a game is a second you will never get back because you wasted it so stupidly.

Ok, so it would be better to waste time smoking and watching T.V.? What kind of logic is that? You're on a website about cannabis man, I don't think you can say much about videogames :)

eddievanzant
03-04-2006, 11:18 PM
Wow, alot of people are hostile here huh??? :confused: ;)
Are you talking to me? Saying "bitch" was not hostile; it was in good nature. I hope you finish reading my post and don't get stopped up on that.

hellomandude
03-04-2006, 11:19 PM
I got my 360 the day it came out. I sold it on e-bay 4 weeks later cause I was so disappointed and made 3x what I paid for it. Sony all the way, you'll see.

Haha, the answer is right here

Head this mans words :D

Nochowderforyou
03-04-2006, 11:19 PM
Wow, alot of people are hostile here huh??? :confused: ;)

No, not all of us are. People are just having a clash of opinions and can't talk about like normal human beings. Not everyone here is like this. Most of them don't know their ass from a hole in the ground, so they don't matter.

amsterdam
03-04-2006, 11:21 PM
Haha, the answer is right here

Head this mans words :D

The 360 was a total waste. I cant wait till PS3 hits.

hellomandude
03-04-2006, 11:22 PM
Are you talking to me? Saying "bitch" was not hostile; it was in good nature. I hope you finish reading my post and don't get stopped up on that.

Oh, I see now. I am not accustomed to the internet lingo :o In real life, I tend to take offence to the word bitch. Ill try to remember that :thumbsup:

As for the rest of your post, of course, all I can say Is bravo :thumbsup: bravo.

eddievanzant
03-04-2006, 11:22 PM
Consoles have such a large market because no matter how easy to use Computers get, people are still intimidated by twisting a thumbscrew and adding a hundred-dollar video card and installing (instead of just playing w/out installing) new software.

God v2.0
03-04-2006, 11:23 PM
Wow, alot of people are hostile here huh??? :confused: ;)

Nope, alot of people are lazy pieces of shit that cant even type in Google.com into their addy bar.......it take alot more time and effort to ask us to find it for you than it would if you looked yourself. Thats why people here are so "hostile".

eddievanzant
03-04-2006, 11:23 PM
Oh, I see now. I am not accustomed to the internet lingo :o In real life, I tend to take offence to the word bitch. Ill try to remember that :thumbsup:

As for the rest of your post, of coutse, all I can say Is bravo :thumbsup: bravo.
Oh why thank you very much.

hellomandude
03-04-2006, 11:23 PM
Consoles have such a large market because no matter how easy to use Computers get, people are still intimidated by twisting a thumbscrew and adding a hundred-dollar video card and installing (instead of just playing w/out installing) new software.

Exactly. I'm running on just 1000mb of ram and an Nvidia GeForce FX 5900 ultra and it kicks XBOX 360's ass any day. Call of Duty is becoming addictive :D

Nochowderforyou
03-04-2006, 11:24 PM
I thought there was a shortage of these machines? Microsoft was using its own loyal customers as test subjects. Like a mouse in a maze.

hellomandude
03-04-2006, 11:25 PM
Nope, alot of people are lazy pieces of shit that cant even type in Google.com into their addy bar.......it take alot more time and effort to ask us to find it for you than it would if you looked yourself. Thats why people here are so "hostile".

lol Well I've got my answer. So God v2.0 may I ask: are you in the same bloodline as christ? Or the second coming? Hah...

eddievanzant
03-04-2006, 11:28 PM
Nope, alot of people are lazy pieces of shit that cant even type in Google.com into their addy bar.......it take alot more time and effort to ask us to find it for you than it would if you looked yourself. Thats why people here are so "hostile".
Jeez man! People in general can be retarded but that's like 5 pissed off posts in a row. Is it that time of the month or what. You can't tell me it doesn't make sense for some people like the x-box (or consoles (or video games alltogether)) it's easier than a PC, it's wellknown due to so much advertisement (propagandacough), and it's faster to turn it on and play THUGPSWLAWor whatever (which, by the way, when viewed in highdefinition looks a lot worse than on the 6th gen consoles) than to get up and go to a park.

acrca
03-04-2006, 11:29 PM
i have 360 and its amazing. PS3 is gonna cost 700 dollars and 200 dolalrs more for a hardrive and 70-80 a game so suck my balls all u PS2 and 3 pussies. and xbox live is the best online gaming program, PS3 will never beat it.
lol, i have xbox live, and i will hafta agree. ps2 and ps3 can suck my ass! the only thing wrong with xbox is that it does freeze, and give bullshit about not bein able to read the disk, but thats also cuz ive had mine for 5 years now. i heard alotta bad things about the xbox 360s not workin, so i will wait for the price to go down, and for them to fix all their fuck ups

BongSmokityDuo
03-04-2006, 11:29 PM
x box 360 kicks ass

eddievanzant
03-04-2006, 11:32 PM
x box 360 kicks ass
So persuasive. You have better rhetoric than MLK!

God v2.0
03-04-2006, 11:33 PM
Ok, so it would be better to waste time smoking and watching T.V.? What kind of logic is that? You're on a website about cannabis man, I don't think you can say much about videogames :)

I hate TV, i smoke pot alot but i always do it with friends we go out to the woods and fuck around with RC cars (the good ones that can actually go like 30MPH) or with my crossbow or we build a fire and get drunk, or go out to different resturants (this one is a damn good thing to do, we have eaten at like 30 diff places, perfect thing for a pothead to do) we also work on our cars and try to fix them up and stuff by ourselves.

And you know you cant defend your video game playing but when you get through puberty you will realize how much of a waste of time it is, i was merely trying to save you the trouble of finding out but i guess you'll have to figure it out for yourselves (it WILL happen, usually by the time you hit 20 if you still do this kinda stuff at 21 then you have a problem, you need to go out to a bar, find a skeezy bar slut and fuck her (remember 2 condoms so that your dick will be protected from the filth and hey it might make your we we look a little bit bigger.)

anyways vid games are a waste of time, go out and socialize, find some friends hey maybe gewt a job and save up or something.

well if you choose to disregard my advice then i have pity on you because you're going to end up unhappy, alone, and a virgin.

Nochowderforyou
03-04-2006, 11:33 PM
Yeah, the new PS3's may cost $700-$900, but weren't there some people paying that much when the Xbox came out?

Of course it will be a high price when it first comes out. PS2's were $500 when they first arrived.

Anyways, I don't even play that much, and I'm not a big enough loser to argue which console has better games.

hellomandude
03-04-2006, 11:36 PM
I hate TV, i smoke pot alot but i always do it with friends we go out to the woods and fuck around with RC cars (the good ones that can actually go like 30MPH) or with my crossbow or we build a fire and get drunk, or go out to different resturants (this one is a damn good thing to do, we have eaten at like 30 diff places, perfect thing for a pothead to do) we also work on our cars and try to fix them up and stuff by ourselves.

And you know you cant defend your video game playing but when you get through puberty you will realize how much of a waste of time it is, i was merely trying to save you the trouble of finding out but i guess you'll have to figure it out for yourselves (it WILL happen, usually by the time you hit 20 if you still do this kinda stuff at 21 then you have a problem, you need to go out to a bar, find a skeezy bar slut and fuck her (remember 2 condoms so that your dick will be protected from the filth and hey it might make your we we look a little bit bigger.)

anyways vid games are a waste of time, go out and socialize, find some friends hey maybe gewt a job and save up or something.

well if you choose to disregard my advice then i have pity on you because you're going to end up unhappy, alone, and a virgin.

Man, what the hell. You realize when someone makes an elaborately offensive post on a website, I don't take offence. I take pity ;) :thumbsup: The words you speak are a product of your envrionment and I just want you to know just because you played nintendo during your entire adolescence and didn't get laid until 21 dosen't mean I wont-- Or havn't ;)

Nochowderforyou
03-04-2006, 11:46 PM
And you know you cant defend your video game playing but when you get through puberty you will realize how much of a waste of time it is, i was merely trying to save you the trouble of finding out but i guess you'll have to figure it out for yourselves (it WILL happen, usually by the time you hit 20 if you still do this kinda stuff at 21 then you have a problem, you need to go out to a bar, find a skeezy bar slut and fuck her (remember 2 condoms so that your dick will be protected from the filth and hey it might make your we we look a little bit bigger.)

anyways vid games are a waste of time, go out and socialize, find some friends hey maybe gewt a job and save up or something.

well if you choose to disregard my advice then i have pity on you because you're going to end up unhappy, alone, and a virgin.

Weren't you the one complaining because you had to stop playing Runescape on the computer to actually do some work, at work?

How old are you anyways man? I bet you're not even 20 or 21, and still a virgin. You're not even old enough to get in a fucking bar, so shut up you fuckin geek.

A lot of pissy kids here today huh? Damn, go back to your bookstore junior.

Marijuanderful
03-04-2006, 11:48 PM
All you people are idiots, you're a slave to a company and you're pathetic. Video games are not real life and they have NO AFFECT on any skills you use in real life. Every second you play a game is a second you will never get back because you wasted it so stupidly.


-True that.

eddievanzant
03-04-2006, 11:50 PM
I hate TV, i smoke pot alot but i always do it with friends we go out to the woods and fuck around with RC cars (the good ones that can actually go like 30MPH) or with my crossbow or we build a fire and get drunk, or go out to different resturants (this one is a damn good thing to do, we have eaten at like 30 diff places, perfect thing for a pothead to do) we also work on our cars and try to fix them up and stuff by ourselves.

And you know you cant defend your video game playing but when you get through puberty you will realize how much of a waste of time it is, i was merely trying to save you the trouble of finding out but i guess you'll have to figure it out for yourselves (it WILL happen, usually by the time you hit 20 if you still do this kinda stuff at 21 then you have a problem, you need to go out to a bar, find a skeezy bar slut and fuck her (remember 2 condoms so that your dick will be protected from the filth and hey it might make your we we look a little bit bigger.)

anyways vid games are a waste of time, go out and socialize, find some friends hey maybe gewt a job and save up or something.

well if you choose to disregard my advice then i have pity on you because you're going to end up unhappy, alone, and a virgin.
I've met people with the same attitude as you. Thre one I see a few times a year is my step-brother: He's such an ass-hole. I know no one cares but I'll tell a short story. Last Christmas, "Santa" got my dad a table tennis table. I ask my brother if he needs help setting it up. He says no. I hear Kenny G. on the radio and my annoying ass sister talking with my retarded stepmom. I hate who I'm surrounded by and I hate Kenny G. so I go to the PC room and browse around on an online music store for a while (there's no tv). I come out to find that the table has been set up and some of my relatives have been playing for a while, so I try to join in, but my step-brother starts to lecture me because I was on the PC instead of socializing. I'm not going to get into it, but I get pissed and go back inside. Half-hour later I go back out and chill on a lawn-chair and converse with my stepmom. I mention someone who was interviewed on the Daily Show and he immediately starts an argument with me about how CC is filth and anyone who has ever been a part of it (even though O'reilly and other people he looks up to has been interviewed) is filth. I get pissed and go back inside. If no one has read my entire post, just read what's in bold.

The moral of this story is that people play with electronics instead of socialize because they hate being lectured by better-than-though assholes, putting up with shitty music and retarded people. You are an intolerant asshole who only sees one side on this issue. Video games may be a waste of time, but talking to people like you is no more worthwhile.

hellomandude
03-04-2006, 11:55 PM
The moral of this story is that people play with electronics instead of socialize because they hate being lectured by better-than-though assholes, putting up with shitty music and retarded people. You are an intolerant asshole who only sees one side on this issue. Video games may be a waste of time, but talking to people like you is no more worthwhile.

Hmmm... I've seen a phrase going around that I think would describe what this paragraph did quite effectively:

PWNED YOUR ASS God v2.0

Did I use it correctly? :)

eddievanzant
03-04-2006, 11:58 PM
Technically, that is perfectly correct; however, I prefer the more insightful...
God v2.0, you have been thoroughly owned (with a p). I feel honored to know that someone considers my statement worthy of pwnage.

higher4hockey
03-04-2006, 11:59 PM
the 360 owns the ps3. look into it, even ps3 developers are saying that sony can't hope to hold there own agaisnt microsoft.

Congrats man, the 360 rocks the casbah, fight night is the shit, call of duty online is amazing, battlefront looks to be the best game ever made. Dead or Alive 4 is the shit. the 360 rocks, enjoy ~!

hellomandude
03-05-2006, 12:01 AM
the 360 owns the ps3. look into it, even ps3 developers are saying that sony can't hope to hold there own agaisnt microsoft.

Really. I'd love if you could list some sources, on that. I cant seem to find anything :rolleyes:

eddievanzant
03-05-2006, 12:02 AM
the 360 owns the ps3. look into it, even ps3 developers are saying that sony can't hope to hold there own agaisnt microsoft.

Congrats man, the 360 rocks the casbah, fight night is the shit, call of duty online is amazing, battlefront looks to be the best game ever made. Dead or Alive 4 is the shit. the 360 rocks, enjoy ~! I request you prove this with linkage to an interview with a developer. Until then, LIAR!


Really. I'd love if you could list some sources, on that. I cant seem to find anything :rolleyes:
Ya beat me to it!

hellomandude
03-05-2006, 12:02 AM
I request you prove this with linkage to an interview with a developer. Until then, LIAR!

Hah, I like you :D

amsterdam
03-05-2006, 12:03 AM
the 360 owns the ps3. look into it, even ps3 developers are saying that sony can't hope to hold there own agaisnt microsoft.

Congrats man, the 360 rocks the casbah, fight night is the shit, call of duty online is amazing, battlefront looks to be the best game ever made. Dead or Alive 4 is the shit. the 360 rocks, enjoy ~!

HAHAHA, The PS3 is gonna have 5x the graphics that the 360 has, that's a fact. I had the 360 and played all those games. Like I said, I sold it on e-bay 4 weeks later and made my money back and then some.. Don't be mad cause you wasted your $$$. I will bet you anything that the PS3 sells 10 times what the 360 has or will.

eddievanzant
03-05-2006, 12:03 AM
Do you mind me adding you to my buddylist? You seem to be a kickass kind of person yourself.

hellomandude
03-05-2006, 12:04 AM
Do you mind me adding you to my buddylist? You seem to be a kickass kind of person yourself.

Not at all :)

Hehe, this is a great thread

eddievanzant
03-05-2006, 12:05 AM
HAHAHA, The PS3 is gonna have 5x the graphics that the 360 has, that's a fact. I had the 360 and played all those games. Like I said, I sold it on e-bay 4 weeks later and made my money back and then some.. Don't be mad cause you wasted your $$$. I will bet you anything that the PS3 sells 10 times what the 360 has or will. Normally the latter is always compared; but seeing that many are being returned, the first quantity might be more, haha.
Threads about easily debatable topics like this are always quite popular. I'm off for now though, gonna go kick some ass on BF1942.

turtle420
03-05-2006, 12:16 AM
360!

ps3 will suck kack

amsterdam
03-05-2006, 12:18 AM
You guys need to research it a bit before you speak. The PS3 is gonna have 5x the graphics. That means it is better. The HD in the PS3 is also much stronger. Sorry you guys wasted your $$. I bet you can still make it back.LOL.

hellomandude
03-05-2006, 12:21 AM
You guys need to research it a bit before you speak. The PS3 is gonna have 5x the graphics. That means it is better. The HD in the PS3 is also much stronger. Sorry you guys wasted your $$. I bet you can still make it back.LOL.

Hehe It's almost sad

I would be pist if I had wasted my $$ on an xbox 360 and actually thought it was going to be the ultimate in gaming. My PC has more defined graphics, lol. That's how I knew from the beginning 360 was a waste of time, when ps3 comes out it's gonna rock your world like u dont know :dance:

higher4hockey
03-05-2006, 12:44 AM
I guess the arguement of microsoft/playstation will probably go on forever. I personally like the xbox. but hey, to each his own!

higher4hockey
03-05-2006, 01:01 AM
by the way: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.games.video.sony-playstation2/browse_thread/thread/5cdb5f2b565582bd/4b7d343512aeb513%234b7d343512aeb513?sa=X&oi=groupsr&start=0&num=3

"It's bad enough the PS3 is utilizing a crippled system architecture and
hardware components that videogame developers world wide both despise and
mock."

anycraic
03-05-2006, 01:14 AM
yeah well its all a matter of taste really.
if u want big name well known crowd pleasers get a ps3
if u want superior online gameplay for ur console, get a 360
and if u want something slightly different to the norm that pushes the boundaries of videogaming, get a revolution.

personally id take the last option.

bear in mind though that microsoft consoles will get better and better, due to the fact that they are so fucking rich they can release 3 consoles for every 1 of sony's, if one or 2 fail theyve still got billions to play with

Pete Rock
03-05-2006, 01:42 AM
Why do people get so excited saying that one is better than the other or one sucks ass? They're both good consoles. Do what u do and get whichever one u want, and don't say shit about the other one cause u prolly never played it, or are too close minded to give both a fair chance. After all, its just a video games, not politics. Holla at cha boy.

eddievanzant
03-05-2006, 01:58 AM
No. It's politics.

I read what the developer said. It doesn't change anything. Even if the PS3 is nothing special, it's still being released much later than the 360 and will be better. It doesn't need to live up to the hype to be the best console. PS2 was the worst console. It sold best. Xbox was the best console. It sold worst. Now, the PS3 not only has the precedence of the PS2 being the best seller, but it will also be the most capable. The 360 is seling worse than the original. Also, the person who said that one should get the 360 for online use, SONY is said to be working on an Xbox live competitor. Pete rock, refusing to debate can show two things about a person: That person is not able to argue because he isn't knowledgeable on the topic, and that that person didn't give a crap. We argue because Video Gaming is a big part of some people's lives and care about the future of it. If for nothing else, I can at least respect anyone who can make a point for the opposing side (not "Xbox kickz ballz") because they are interested in the future of this business.

Pete Rock
03-05-2006, 02:07 AM
No. It's politics.

I read what the developer said. It doesn't change anything. Even if the PS3 is nothing special, it's still being released much later than the 360 and will be better. It doesn't need to live up to the hype to be the best console. PS2 was the worst console. It sold best. Xbox was the best console. It sold worst. Now, the PS3 not only has the precedence of the PS2 being the best seller, but it will also be the most capable. The 360 is seling worse than the original. Also, the person who said that one should get the 360 for online use, SONY is said to be working on an Xbox live competitor. Pete rock, refusing to debate can show two things about a person: That person is not able to argue because he isn't knowledgeable on the topic, and that that person didn't give a crap. We argue because Video Gaming is a big part of some people's lives and care about the future of it. If for nothing else, I can at least respect anyone who can make a point for the opposing side (not "Xbox kickz ballz") because they are interested in the future of this business.

Word.

Two years from now is when we'll honestly be able to say which one is better.

eddievanzant
03-05-2006, 02:09 AM
Right now we're arguing largely because we can say told ya so two years from now, lol.

acrca
03-05-2006, 04:26 AM
i was wondering if anyone plays Burnout Revenge for Xbox? if you havnt played it, and you have an Xbox then GET IT!! this is the best game in my opinion. my online gamertag is Rofer. get it refoR

t3chyo
03-05-2006, 05:07 AM
How can you compare XBOX 360 to a system that isnt even out yet?? :confused: :p I think you are just feelin' the burn :p Don't worry man, I will let you come over and play mines when I get it :dance:

listen to what you just said...and than listen to what you said after that.


edit: I would also like to add that GAMES is what mostly makes the system, "hardcore gamers" should know this...

halo
03-05-2006, 05:09 AM
I was lucky and actually got one for Christmas. And i love it. Ive only had a couple problems. After 4 days the thing broke and i had to send it in to microsoft. They sent me a new one about 6 days later at no charge. The new one kept freezing up and i had to send it in again. They sent me another new one and it has been working fine since. I have gotten great joy out of it and i think its a great system.

eddievanzant
03-05-2006, 05:42 AM
Hahaha. Third time's a charm!

Baker420
03-05-2006, 06:39 AM
for fuck sake, i didnt ask for everyones opinion...i definitly didnt want this to turn into an argument on which is better. I just wanted to share my joy but you assholes had to turn it into a debate. oh, and thanks for saying how shitty a system is that i jsut bought. thats exactly what i wanted to hear, now can we just lock this thread because all its turned into is a flame fest/argument.

da haze meister
03-05-2006, 06:44 AM
I was lucky and actually got one for Christmas. And i love it. Ive only had a couple problems. After 4 days the thing broke and i had to send it in to microsoft. They sent me a new one about 6 days later at no charge. The new one kept freezing up and i had to send it in again. They sent me another new one and it has been working fine since. I have gotten great joy out of it and i think its a great system.
a system that you have to send in twice in 10 days is not a good system. case closed.

Myth1184
03-05-2006, 06:44 AM
Xbox 360 is more powerful than the PS3, and the PS3 is gona have a $900+ pricetag

Jeff Spicoli
03-05-2006, 06:48 AM
baker, ignore them. wherever you may be, africa, school, the bathroom, whenever you bring up xbox/ps2, there will be someone saying that the other console is better. i would rather have a ps2, but if i had the money for a 360, i would get off my ass in a second and go and buy one! have you played c.o.d 2? i played it at my friends house on a huge hdtv, pitch black room, with surround sound and all the works, and I felt like I was in a war, haha. anyways, i bet ya most of the people bad mouthing the 360 are jealous, even if its subconsiously. gogogo good times

stonerneedsrealweed
03-05-2006, 06:52 AM
Ok, so i went to Target today to get some deoderent(i dont kno how to spell it) and body wash...anyways i was browsing when i saw an Xbox 360 just sitting in the display case...i couldnt believe it! and it was the only one left....the person working said they just got it in today. just two months ago i thought it was hopless to find one anytime soon at the retail price (cuz ebay they were goin for like 750!) anyways, i just wanted to share my joy with everyone!


do not get the x box 360........they still have problems with overheating and not performing to what they say.....................in like 2 years they are supposed to re release it since mocrosoft will release something before they get dont making it just to have it out at a certain time.............................................. .www.ps3info.com

iamenfuego
03-05-2006, 03:20 PM
by the way: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.games.video.sony-playstation2/browse_thread/thread/5cdb5f2b565582bd/4b7d343512aeb513%234b7d343512aeb513?sa=X&oi=groupsr&start=0&num=3

"It's bad enough the PS3 is utilizing a crippled system architecture and
hardware components that videogame developers world wide both despise and
mock."

everyone talking shit on 360 jus got raped in the face. and the game developers havent even used 360's full effect yet with games, games will get better and better for the 360 as time comes.

da haze meister
03-05-2006, 03:47 PM
Xbox 360 is more powerful than the PS3, and the PS3 is gona have a $900+ pricetag
it is not more powerful than the PS3. PS3 has 550 mHz, and 1.8 tFlops, and the Xbox360 has 500 mHz and 1.0 tflops, along with no HD

da haze meister
03-05-2006, 03:49 PM
PSP being destroyed by the DS, etc.)
no that is completely wrong, along with everything else on that site. The DS sold around a million copies, almost all of which were sold back for the PSP. It pwns the ds.

iamenfuego
03-05-2006, 03:56 PM
it is not more powerful than the PS3. PS3 has 550 mHz, and 1.8 tFlops, and the Xbox360 has 500 mHz and 1.0 tflops, along with no HD

550mHz to 500mHz is not a big difference at all and there is an article saying 360 is better than the PS3.

and when u say HD do u mean hard drive or high definition. if its hard drive u can buy it seperately for 360 and same with ps3 but the ps3 hard drive is gonna cost 300 dollars or more and with 360 u can get premium for jus a hundred dollars more and it comes wit a hard drive, remote, wireless controller and a headset.

and if ur saying High Def. than all 360 games are in high definition.

t3chyo
03-05-2006, 06:25 PM
I thought this would help the debate out....

"The Xbox 360 CPU architecture has three times the general purpose processing power of the Cell. "

ONE for the PS3..."Cell's claimed advantage is on streaming floating point work which is done on its seven DSP processors. "

"The Xbox 360 GPU design is more flexible and it has more processing power than the PS3 GPU. Additional innovative features contribute to improved rendering performance"

"The memory system bandwidth in Xbox 360 exceeds the PS3's by five times"

"The model number which manufacturers choose to assign to their console serves as an immediate reflection of their confidence regarding the new hardware. Considering the vast amount of resources spent on deciding the XBox successor model number we can only assume that this is the case with 'XBox 360'. Why was 'XBox 2' not enough to describe the new console? Simply because the new XBox is too much hardware for such a meager number. The chart clearly reveals that Microsoft's console is '120' times more powerful in the model number specs."

t3chyo
03-05-2006, 06:26 PM
heres the last pic for the model number...

And heres the link I got all the info from: here (http://www.megagames.com/news/show.cgi?&idtype=console&database=849&page=1&)

iamenfuego
03-05-2006, 06:41 PM
i told u 360 owns ps3

Reefer Rogue
03-05-2006, 06:47 PM
PS3 > 360

highjinx
03-05-2006, 06:50 PM
this argument is never gonna end! oh well lol!:upsidedow

Jeff Spicoli
03-05-2006, 06:52 PM
hahaha at that last graph, haha

eddievanzant
03-05-2006, 06:58 PM
Why would a console cost twice as much as another yet not be better? It doesn't make sense. To the person who said 900 dollars, I saw the same thing you did and it was incorrect: if you look at the numbers, it adds up to 800. http://www.engadget.com/2006/02/18/playstation-3-costs-900-sez-merrill-lynch-mob/
For the person who mentioned COD2, iy looks better on a PC.

eddievanzant
03-05-2006, 07:22 PM
To settle the argument for now, here are the specs from wikipedia showing an advantage for the PS3:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_seventh-generation_game_consoles

hellomandude
03-05-2006, 07:27 PM
To settle the argument for now, here are the specs from wikipedia showing an advantage for the PS3:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_seventh-generation_game_consoles

lol just forget it eddie, they aren't going to stop. And we can't truly disprove them until the PS3 comes out. They'll see. They will see ;) :cool:

t3chyo
03-05-2006, 08:09 PM
Why would a console cost twice as much as another yet not be better? It doesn't make sense. To the person who said 900 dollars, I saw the same thing you did and it was incorrect: if you look at the numbers, it adds up to 800. http://www.engadget.com/2006/02/18/playstation-3-costs-900-sez-merrill-lynch-mob/
For the person who mentioned COD2, iy looks better on a PC.

sorry to say that the actual developers of COD2 said the xbox 360 version itself is superior to the pc, reason why? Well its in the actual coding of each game, the 360 version is the better version. It is locked at 60fps, has better draw distance, and has better smoke effects. If you don't believe than look it up yourself.

God v2.0
03-05-2006, 08:37 PM
Well i guess i was "PWNED" LOL OMG WOWZORZORZZZZZ SOME LITTLE KIDS MADE UP A WORD TO SHAME ME!!!! Try saying pwned out in public or at school and watch how fast people like me fuck you up. I got laid at 17 im 18 now, ive only had sex with one girl, if you know so much about ME then you should know that too because ive posted more about that than my jobs.

Also time will provew me right, i hope you come back to these posts in about 3-4 years and by then u should realize how pathetic you were. The ONLY reason that you even sound good and have any kind of presence is because were on a website with a bunch of prepubescent computer nerds, but thats okay i know i was rude and i dont care if people flame me back. I know im right and so does the other 97% of the population, you idiots are so caught up in your own little world that you've lost the big picture. Think about how many people play vid games compared to how many starving kids there are in asia and africa right now, and you have the audacity to go out and buy a $600 entertainment device that will be obsolete in 2-3 (probably less) years anyways. So ask yourself who is the one who is wasting their life, time, money and basically saying, i choose to ignore other peoples suffering and place myself in complete isolation from the rest of humanity. mmmmm good plan i dont want to see your skinny pale ass outside anyways, i might be tempted to shout derogatory comments at you and make you cry....

God v2.0
03-05-2006, 08:45 PM
AND YOU STUPID NIGGERS!!!!! THE NINTENDO REVOLUTION IS GONNA PWN ALL OTHER SYSTEMS TO DUST! LOLZRORZX!!!!!!!!!! OMG ROTFLMAOWISCUMAFF (stands for rolling on the floor laughing my ass off while i shove cucumbers up my ass for fun)

iamenfuego
03-05-2006, 08:51 PM
AND YOU STUPID NIGGERS!!!!! THE NINTENDO REVOLUTION IS GONNA PWN ALL OTHER SYSTEMS TO DUST! LOLZRORZX!!!!!!!!!! OMG ROTFLMAOWISCUMAFF (stands for rolling on the floor laughing my ass off while i shove cucumbers up my ass for fun)

if u like to play video games where the controller looks exactly like a T.V. remote than good for u.

Jeff Spicoli
03-05-2006, 09:08 PM
Hey god, why don't you complain about your shitty life some more.

acrca
03-05-2006, 10:07 PM
ya fuck off god, if you enjoy video games, you should be able to post all you want about em. if you dont, then fuck off

hellomandude
03-05-2006, 10:08 PM
I know, chill out god. You're making yourself look pathetic. No lie :thumbsup:

eddievanzant
03-05-2006, 11:20 PM
sorry to say that the actual developers of COD2 said the xbox 360 version itself is superior to the pc, reason why? Well its in the actual coding of each game, the 360 version is the better version. It is locked at 60fps, has better draw distance, and has better smoke effects. If you don't believe than look it up yourself.
Regardless of all the specs anyone can throw at me, I hate lcd/plasma tvs. It may just be me, but I've been to best buy and have seen COD running on a kiosk with an lcd hdtv. It looked shitty. Maybe it was artifacts or the LCD inherent 15 ms delay that causes blurriness in fast scenes, but I like how COD looks on PC more than on the 360. Also, 62 players on a server looks better than 8. Oh snap!
God v2.0, once again, you make a good point. If I didn't spend time doing other things like skateboard, play guitar, and make fun of people at school, video gaming would make me pale, and anti-social. Unforunately, video games make me relax after dealing with retarded people who think that going to gay ass dances and wasting their parents money by going to the cinemas and not watching the movie and making a mess that I have to clean up. I'm not able to kill retards in real life, so I will on BF1942 and GTAVC. Eventually I will tire of virtual murder and end up killing some idiot who pisses me off while I'm trying to "socialize" and I'll thank you for pulling me out of the game room. I'm still going to be playing video games when I'm thirty, after I go do all the other shit life has to offer. I may debate about specs for consoles/pcs that may seem irrelevent to you, but I don't spend all my time playing on them.

God v2.0
03-05-2006, 11:32 PM
Hey god, why don't you complain about your shitty life some more.


id be happy to, right now im working at my bookstore and i have to shit REALLY bad, but i cant because im the only one here and someone might come in while im taking a dump, so i have to hold it for another 35 min....man life is a bitch.

and wow i must have said something you all didnt like because im being "pwned" by a bunch of nerds....every time you retort you just make yourselves look stupider! OMG THE PS3 HAS LIKE TWICE AS MANY GIGABITES!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG MICROSOFT OWNS SONY OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG....whats the point, do you have any say in how microsoft or sony builds their products? so you're essentially fighting about something that you and everyone you know has exactly NO effect on. thats whats pathetic in my book, i sit here reading about how one little kid thinks his fake reality is better than another little kid, its just frustrating.


also to everyone who is telling me to shut up, im not and there is nothing you or anyone else can do about it, i know im right and so do you but i guess you'd much rather waste your money on a fake fantasy world rather than anything important, not my problem....

God v2.0
03-05-2006, 11:36 PM
Regardless of all the specs anyone can throw at me, I hate lcd/plasma tvs. It may just be me, but I've been to best buy and have seen COD running on a kiosk with an lcd hdtv. It looked shitty. Maybe it was artifacts or the LCD inherent 15 ms delay that causes blurriness in fast scenes, but I like how COD looks on PC more than on the 360. Also, 62 players on a server looks better than 8. Oh snap!
God v2.0, once again, you make a good point. If I didn't spend time doing other things like skateboard, play guitar, and make fun of people at school, video gaming would make me pale, and anti-social. Unforunately, video games make me relax after dealing with retarded people who think that going to gay ass dances and wasting their parents money by going to the cinemas and not watching the movie and making a mess that I have to clean up. I'm not able to kill retards in real life, so I will on BF1942 and GTAVC. Eventually I will tire of virtual murder and end up killing some idiot who pisses me off while I'm trying to "socialize" and I'll thank you for pulling me out of the game room. I'm still going to be playing video games when I'm thirty, after I go do all the other shit life has to offer. I may debate about specs for consoles/pcs that may seem irrelevent to you, but I don't spend all my time playing on them.

I still play video games every now and then, sometimes with my friends or when im bored, but i had a friend start yelling at another friend and he threatened to hit him because of the xbox/ps 'issue' and at that point in time i realized.........it doesnt matter, its a stupid issue about a stupid activity.

personally id much rather be snowbaording or fighting or blazing with some friends....but whatever im almost off of work so im gonna get on with my real life, im gonna get some butane and make some honey oil and im gonna sell it.

hellomandude
03-05-2006, 11:42 PM
I still play video games every now and then, sometimes with my friends or when im bored, but i had a friend start yelling at another friend and he threatened to hit him because of the xbox/ps 'issue' and at that point in time i realized.........it doesnt matter, its a stupid issue about a stupid activity.

personally id much rather be snowbaording or fighting or blazing with some friends....but whatever im almost off of work so im gonna get on with my real life, im gonna get some butane and make some honey oil and im gonna sell it.

Just keep your mouth shut, hipocrit. You have no room to speak any more ;)

God v2.0
03-05-2006, 11:44 PM
Hey god, why don't you complain about your shitty life some more.


also let me at least say that i have a life outside of butsex and video gmaes unlike you......oh what a burn...............also, you're a nigger :p

bedake
03-05-2006, 11:45 PM
theres alot of fanboys in here that have no idea what they are talking about.... newbs

i cant get into this right now, got a paper

eddievanzant
03-06-2006, 01:31 AM
id be happy to, right now im working at my bookstore and i have to shit REALLY bad, but i cant because im the only one here and someone might come in while im taking a dump, so i have to hold it for another 35 min....man life is a bitch.

and wow i must have said something you all didnt like because im being "pwned" by a bunch of nerds....every time you retort you just make yourselves look stupider! OMG THE PS3 HAS LIKE TWICE AS MANY GIGABITES!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG MICROSOFT OWNS SONY OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG....whats the point, do you have any say in how microsoft or sony builds their products? so you're essentially fighting about something that you and everyone you know has exactly NO effect on. thats whats pathetic in my book, i sit here reading about how one little kid thinks his fake reality is better than another little kid, its just frustrating.


also to everyone who is telling me to shut up, im not and there is nothing you or anyone else can do about it, i know im right and so do you but i guess you'd much rather waste your money on a fake fantasy world rather than anything important, not my problem....
Saying that it's stupid to argue about something I have no effect on is stupid. I may not have any say on what big corporations do, but I also have no say on what the gov't does, or if the retard sitting beside me in class gets to live or not, but I will argue my point regardless. Just so you know, anyone who says something like "PS3 owns > 360" is hated just as much from us as from you.

JBlaze82
03-06-2006, 01:33 AM
I still play video games every now and then, sometimes with my friends or when im bored, but i had a friend start yelling at another friend and he threatened to hit him because of the xbox/ps 'issue' and at that point in time i realized.........it doesnt matter, its a stupid issue about a stupid activity.

personally id much rather be snowbaording or fighting or blazing with some friends....but whatever im almost off of work so im gonna get on with my real life, im gonna get some butane and make some honey oil and im gonna sell it.

alright man did you ever think that maybe some people out there play videogames just to get away from reality or if their bored so they play videogames to make time pass quicker because i know i have. Whats so wrong with playing videogames if you enjoy playing them. Theres nothing wrong with it. Shit man you say about having a real life and shouldnt be wasted playing videogames. I have a life and i still play videogames. So to be honest with you man you dont know what the fuck your talking about. I'm actually going to college to make videogames so to me thats goin to be a sweet ass job that makes big bucks. Playing videogames is just something to do..just like you being on your computer is something to do.

welshkillabee
03-06-2006, 12:52 PM
I love my Xbox 360 got mine on launch awesome machine

briman
03-06-2006, 01:27 PM
this will never end so why dont u all agree to like the consoles tht u liek i personaly like the 360 but tht is me my friends are waiting for ps3 to come out and so on so why dont u all just drop it

anycraic
03-06-2006, 05:20 PM
each to their own as they say

bedake
03-06-2006, 05:39 PM
everyone is a fanboy here haha no real gamers.... if you are smart you admit the strengths of both systems, no single system can best the other, it comes down to third party developer support,

be a smart gamer or dont voice your opinion at all.... untill you own all current and next gen systems and run a beefy gaming PC your opinion doesnt matter... unless you really know what you are talking about sure

to me gaming chit chat is much like drugs, some people know what they are talking about, others dont but pretend like they do...

take some of my advice, subscribe to 3 different gaming magazines, each made for a specific console, then subscribe to 2 different magazines that are independent like me then you will know what you are talking about... it doesnt hurt to be a forum guru on places like http://www.evilavatar.com/ where developers them self frequent

know your info or shut up

eddievanzant
03-06-2006, 09:01 PM
I know my info, and so do other people with different opinions. Anyone who says something ignorant, no matter whose side it is on is told to shut up by everyone. Third-party support obviously isn't the only reason to buy a console otherwise that would be the only thing being mentioned, but it is a big part. I know PS3 won't be out until the holidays so I don't have much to go on (http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/06/the-playstation-3-delay-mem-part-vi-variety-sez-holidays-06/) but seeing as how the original Xbox had only a few titles worth buying, I don't think much will change in the 7th gen.

UMrocksmysocks
03-06-2006, 09:21 PM
Xbox360 Sucks Balls. wait it out for the PS3.

i couldnt disagree more... you coudl talk for days about xbox 360s features. ps3 is just gonna be another piece sent out by sony thatll break in 2 years so you have to buy another,.. money hungry fucks not to mention is looks like a fax machine from 1990........:o

iamenfuego
03-06-2006, 09:47 PM
i couldnt disagree more... you coudl talk for days about xbox 360s features. ps3 is just gonna be another piece sent out by sony thatll break in 2 years so you have to buy another,.. money hungry fucks not to mention is looks like a fax machine from 1990........:o

and the controllers look like boomerangs

JBlaze82
03-06-2006, 10:35 PM
haha yea those controllers are fuckin weird but on ign.com they showed a average sized hand and it looks like the controller somehow fits pretty good in your hands.....but only time will tell once its released whenever that may be:confused:

BongSmokityDuo
03-06-2006, 10:54 PM
I'm sure both systems will be fun, but I can play 360 right now!

eddievanzant
03-07-2006, 02:24 AM
I made a thread on RampRage a while back (I don't go there now (It really sucks)) about the 7th gen: My question was, What does the 360 have over the PS3?
With the exception of a few people saying things about graphics (which I responded with this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_seventh-generation_game_consoles) the only thing anyone has said to me was that it had better online capabilities. Though that's an entirely different debate (It may indeed be better, but it also costs money), let's assume it is better; however, SONY is said to be working on a competitor service, hopefully a free service (who am I kidding? I'm not getting either one so I don't care).
In the case of the controllers, at least they're doing something innovative. SONY says the controllers are only slightly different (albeit slightly uglier) but are more ergonomic and will be more comfortable for playing games for hours. Nintendo is making a controller that will not only be more appealing to normal people who don't play video games, but is also supposed to handle a FPS with accuracy (!) as good as a mouse/keyboard configuration (Finally!! A Console FPS that requires no auto-aim *cough*halo*cough*). If you want to check out a cool video (it requires a good amount of imagination), check this video out: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7503797230984048423&q=nintendo+revolution) (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7503797230984048423&q=nintendo+revolution%29) SONY will be introducing a High-Definition revision to the Eyetoy which is supposed to work better interpreting body movements. By connecting a DS to a Revo, one should be able to use the touchscreen as a new form of input. SONY and Nintendo know that a new console with better graphics alone won't sell very well. Some may just see these things as novelties, the DS (w/ touchscreen) and the PSP are nearly tied in units sold, so I don't think any other innovations will be deemed novel.
What has Microsoft come up with? A camera attachable to the 360. Unless it's somehow better than the Eyetoy, it's no extra incentive to buy the 360. SONY and Nintendo both have handhelds worth connecting to their console counterparts adding incentive, and unless you count the Origami (which might have nothing to do with the 360), Microsoft has nothing like that.

If you're just skipping down the posts, just read this last sentence:
What does the 360 have over (what we already know about) the PS3 and the Revo?

higher4hockey
03-07-2006, 08:13 AM
one word to end the arguement: HALO

anycraic
03-07-2006, 03:37 PM
actually yeah, asthetically speaking the ps3 looks like a giant 80's toaster, but then again playstations have always been sorta ugly.
the xbox looks average, not ugly but not great either
the revolution is the best looking of the lot, in my opinion it looks slick


so if gaming was a fashion statement, the rev would look the nicest beside my imaginary flatscreen tv

JustSayNo
03-07-2006, 03:57 PM
seriously, i GAVE AWAY my xbox and about $200 worth of games to a less fortunate friend of mine, hes 21 and has to take care of his little sister and usually his 2 brothers.

props!!!

eddievanzant
03-07-2006, 08:16 PM
one word to end the arguement: HALO That doesn't end anything. Compare Halo to any real FPS made for PC and it's mediocre. For 6th gen console games, I guess you're right. Though I find the game to be boring stupid and no less difficult to control than any other console shooter, it's a very popular series (maybe because Xbox had no other games that weren't totally sucky). If you think it will still be the best for the 7th gen consoles, you're wrong. The Nintendo Revo will be the first console to have a controller that can handle a FPS without auto-aim. You wanna know who the people leading the scoreboards on xbox live on halo? They're the people who've connected Mice and Keyboards to their Xbox because the controller isn't accurate. So here's three words to end this specific argument:

Halo is mediocre.

anycraic
03-08-2006, 01:12 AM
in terms of fps and also rts pc owns all, thats a fact
but as pc gaming declines i think its good that they are trying to bring 2 of the best gaming genres to the console market
halo was mediocre by pc fps standards but amazing by console standards, i think the revolution will really do the genre justice
rts has never really found a big following, but with the advent of proper online console gaming i see no reason why it wont take off