As I cuddle up to my insomnia...

[Smokey Bear]

I wonder, if you can become dependent on Marijuana to sleep, if you are consistently using it.
I have always had trouble sleeping, but have not smoked today or yesterday, and have found sleeping impossible.
Do you think that you can actually become dependent on it to the point that it is nessecary to smoke in order to sleep (presuming this is not a prexisting problem)?

[BigHomie]

do you usually smoke before you get into bed?

for me I think its all out of habit... you sort of get into a routine ...

when i was a kid i'd smoke kind of light during the day because of school, parents, etc and then real heavy at night... when I'd run out I'd have a hard time getting to sleep.

now i read in bed until i fall asleep at night. if i finish a book and don't have another to read then i have a real hard time falling asleep. it doesn't matter if i'm high or not...

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

i am insomnic. i was before i started toking, and now, i am even more so when i dont ahve any TO toke.


can i get a medical card for this?

[Smokey Bear]

Generally I smoke more during the day, only on weekends do I smoke at night, because I am partying till late.
I read a lot at night, I go through about 5 books a week on average, but generally that is unrelated to sleeping for me.
Hmmm.
Interesting point about routine, but I doubt that is it.
Still, could be I don't feel my day complete until I have gotten stoned, *grin.*

[Smokey Bear]

i am insomnic. i was before i started toking, and now, i am even more so when i dont ahve any TO toke.


can i get a medical card for this?

If you live in California, and go to the right doctor, you can get a club card no problem.
Biggest reason people get them, actually.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

i live in Oregon damnit! i need this... if insomnia can get me in, then i am curing more than sleep disorder, i have depression problems too.

part of the depression stems from the laws against pot, part of it is government corruption and being alive in this piss poor world, and partly my pathetic life in general...

i need help :(

[imagoober]

naw, its just in your head, you think you cant sleep without it, but reality is, that you have a sleeping disorder, witch has nothing to do with marijuana, marijuana is just a way to treat it! i cant fall asleep for shit without it, but i understand that thats a problem in itself, currently across the world sleeping disorder are rising very fast!

[Smokey Bear]

Come join us Californians.
We are lovely and SMOKE THE WEED...legally.
:D

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

naw, its just in your head, you think you cant sleep without it, but reality is, that you have a sleeping disorder, witch has nothing to do with marijuana, marijuana is just a way to treat it! i cant fall asleep for shit without it, but i understand that thats a problem in itself, currently across the world sleeping disorder are rising very fast!


stfu goob, i've had insomnia well before i even STARTED toking it up. i tried sleep pills that barely did the trick, and when i started toking, it seemed clear to me that pot was the cure to my sleep inhibition.

i also felt less depressed while stoned. it seemed as though the problems jsut didnt matter as much.


it's not going to cure the initial depression, no, but just being able to smoke it legally would lift my spirits a HELL of a lot.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

Come join us Californians.
We are lovely and SMOKE THE WEED...legally.
:D

i am dirt poor :( i dont have a job, and i am socially inept. i dont like going outside, it's too crowded out there, i hate people in general. getting a job is like handing an islamic terrorist a bomb.

i'd snap and kill people. lol well unless i were stoned enough not to care about the fact that i have to ask people to repeat things 5 times before i realize i dont give a fuck.

[Smokey Bear]

i am dirt poor :( i dont have a job, and i am socially inept. i dont like going outside, it's too crowded out there, i hate people in general. getting a job is like handing an islamic terrorist a bomb.

i'd snap and kill people. lol well unless i were stoned enough not to care about the fact that i have to ask people to repeat things 5 times before i realize i dont give a fuck.


Well, being dirt poor I can't help you with :( .
We have uninhabited regions.
Humbolt county produces some fiiiiiiiine weed, and no one lives up there. Excepting a bunch of hippies chilling in arcada.
Haha, I am proud to be from california.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

im a proud home grown oregonian :P and californians are CUH RAZY! well at least in southern cali lol stoopid fuchs. highway accidents just waiting to happen those nuts!

anyways... um... i dont know what to do :( im fucked :(

[Smokey Bear]

Aww, I am sorry that you are in a hard place.
Yeah, When I say California, I really mean Bay Area and ^up^ I hate So Cal. It is like a different state. It is so washed out.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

not jsut hard, impossible -_- i seriousely need help, and i cant get it.

[Smokey Bear]

I am really sorry, and lacking in words at the moment.
I hope you find what you need.
I hope you are searching for what you need.
Take care of yourself, I don't want to see anything happen to you.

[acrca]

I wonder, if you can become dependent on Marijuana to sleep, if you are consistently using it.
I have always had trouble sleeping, but have not smoked today or yesterday, and have found sleeping impossible.
Do you think that you can actually become dependent on it to the point that it is nessecary to smoke in order to sleep (presuming this is not a prexisting problem)?
yup same thing happens to me, weed relaxes you, i have been smokin daily for a long time, and recently i had to not burn for a whole day... that night i did not sleep at all

[Smokey Bear]

I have not smoked in two days, and can't sleep, and am hardly hungry.
Doubt the lack of hunger is related as well, but just interesting. I am not really bothered by the lack of sleep, I am a night sort of person, I much prefer to sleep the day away.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

-_- your concern sucks man... i hate it, so many people concerned for me that i couldnt jsut kill myself and be done with it, too many people that would suffer because of me.

maybe i should set up a paypal account for people to make donations and get me off my ass and in a better place..... like australia, with vivien <3 <3

[Smokey Bear]

Yeah, but if you have it in you to feel crappy about the fact that people care about you, there is something there.
What do you want to do with your life(short of spending it stoned, because well...who wouldn't?)?
My personal belief on suicide is you never have a chance of finding something better if you take that route. The suffering may be gone, but it isn't nessesarily better, in fact it is nothing. You don't even get to experience it. Because you aren't there.
I think that if you really decide you care, you can get your ass up, and find something that works better.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

honnestly, i hate civilization and society. i'd dedicate my life to changing it for the better, but i cant communicate with people, and cant amass a revolution online either.


honnestly, all i have left TO DO is blaze the rest of my life away.

but i cant do that, because i would need to grow the pot myself, since i cant get a job and buy it.

my hearing loss really holds me back, and the fact that no hearing aid actually helps just isnt right. i am pathetic, i cant do anything for myself, i am forced to rely on the minimal kindness that others have to offer me and help me out with, and i cant rely on that forever, sooner or later, im going to get kicked out of the house, and starve to death on the streets.


i might AS WELL just kill myself.


my life IS suicide. every day i die a little more, and come closer to being completely SOL and starve to death.

[imagoober]

stfu goob, i've had insomnia well before i even STARTED toking it up. i tried sleep pills that barely did the trick, and when i started toking, it seemed clear to me that pot was the cure to my sleep inhibition.
i also felt less depressed while stoned. it seemed as though the problems jsut didnt matter as much.
it's not going to cure the initial depression, no, but just being able to smoke it legally would lift my spirits a HELL of a lot.

stfu douche bag! if you didnt get my message i was agreeing with you i just mess up a sentence*, but your ass has to get all bent and tear in to me when if you only read the damn post and thought about it you might have understood, fuck i have the same fucking probelm! i happen to have wrote that post at the same time you wrote yours, yours wasnt even there when i had started writing so fuck you i want saying anything about your post i hadnt even read it. all the others posts you made that i just read i happen to had agreed with you, but since i know what an ass you are i dont really care!


you think you cant sleep without it, but reality is, that you have a sleeping disorder
*i meant to write "you think it might be causing your insomnia to get worse because you cant sleep without it but it not. reality is, that you have a sleeping disorder" duh.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

stfu douche bag! if you didnt get my message i was agreeing with you i just mess up a sentence*, but your ass has to get all bent and tear in to me when if you only read the damn post and thought about it you might have understood, fuck i have the same fucking probelm! i happen to have wrote that post at the same time you wrote yours, yours wasnt even there when i had started writing so fuck you i want saying anything about your post i hadnt even read it. all the others posts you made that i just read i happen to had agreed with you, but since i know what an ass you are i dont really care!


*i meant to write "you think it might be causing your insomnia to get worse because you cant sleep without it but it not. reality is, that you have a sleeping disorder" duh.


sorry man, i didnt read that right either. im not in a good place in my life right now :(

[imagoober]

NO PROBLEM! man i started to respond with a few mean remarks but i edited most of them! all is forgotten!


honnestly, i hate civilization and society. i'd dedicate my life to changing it for the better, but i cant communicate with people, and cant amass a revolution online either.

ill join the revolution though i think well need more!:D

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

there are a lot more people who are with me/us than you realize, but the problem is most of them/you are weak minded/willed, or scared of the opposition.

you use that excuse not to stand up and defend your free will. i cant even pity that, it is beyond pitiful. there is no excuse for not standing up and defending your rights to free will. if you die, it is better that way. at least you keep your free will, instead of letting it go to waste.

[imagoober]

i think to start the fight, first you need to try to use the system, it can be fair, its the people at the top that arnt, they abuse there power! then then after you have the following and things arnt working, and it clear that the change isnt happing because of corruption then you take the next step, force!

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

you confused the fuck out of me man...
havent we been trying to use the system for over a decade now?
hasnt it been failing time and time again?

if at first you dont succede, try, try again, right? but if you keep doing it the same way, start trying something different! sheesh!

there are tons of NORML supporters. what's it gonna take to pry their heads out of their asses so they can see that NORML isnt going to change anything without a revolution?

get the norml supporters up in arms, and this thing is ours.

[imagoober]

no im not saying try try try, i just think that what they have done has been in lots of groups of all sizes at differnt places and times, here and there not orginized enought not getting the word out right, etc. everyone has to do it all at the same time for the same group! man im totally for doing whatever it takes but im not going to stand in arms alone thats suicide, but if the time came i would be there! things arnt at that point cause not eveyone is willing to go there, and the cannabis community has gotten large but not dangerous enough yeat so you continue to gain support throught the system or under the table. people are scared of the govenment and law enforcement and with good reason right now they have the power! i hope that made sence im totally agree with you just like most people i want to get shit done i want to do it right and like most people im not totally sure what has to be done. theres no blue print, someone must lead!

disclaimer! im not condoning anything illegal just using the our constitutional rights if the time comes.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

i know you're agreeing, i knowthat's the way things are...

im not disagreeing in any way of the word either, but im deffenitely ranting as much as possible lol.

i know what needs to be done, but i dont have how to get support or get anyone to listen, or more approperiately, brainstorm. i know what needs to be done in general, but i also know that it is too flawed as i see it in my head, i need otehr people to brainstorm additional aspects i am sure i have overlooked.


the fact that the government has all this power is also another reason we should be out there fighting back!


no, i dont want anyone going off shooting people, i dont need small bands of people fighting back, i need all of us uniting, as such america was founded on, and now bears no sembelance of unity.


this is not america anymore.


america is the land of the free and home of the brave. these lands are not free, and bear very few brave souls.