cells and humans

[BlazedMonk3y]

alright maybe this post dont go here but i wanna post here:cool:

alright so i was reading the basics on cells how they work, about the nucleus and all that and found that a human is pretty much the same as a cell.
live, have a nucleus wich is our brain, eat and give off waste, grow, reproduce, and die.
so im thinking are we cells to the earth?
is our body the earth?
wich leads me to my next question
are we like cancer to the earth?
over producing, killing our body our place we live, and out of control

so i wounder if we worked like normal cells united and working together, what would earth our body turn out to do or be?
ash wednesday just passed
wich helps my theory a lil more
"ashes you are and ashes you'll become" (something like that) witch means will die and become dirt again right?
im thinking we belong to earth not earth to us

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

yup, yes, yeah, and so on. you got it.

[Oneironaut]

We are not a cancer to the earth. There is nothing intrinsic in us that drives us to destroy the environment. That much can be seen by the fact that for 99.9% of human history we didn't even have agriculture by which to alter an ecosystem.

The problem with the environment is not so much humans but the way humans are currently interacting with their environment. The reason we are producing and wasting so much is clearly a product of our current economic situation. Under capitalism, it is always beneficial for a corporation to produce more items and try all kinds of psychological tricks (advertising) to try to create a want for those products in the public so they sell as much as possible. With thousands of corporations spending billions and billions of dollars to produce material wants in people, it creates a powerful ideology among the masses that getting more money and more stuff is the be-all and end-all of everything. And this ideology drives capitalism further, encouraging it to produce more for more profit.

As Murray Bookchin put it, "To speak of 'limits to growth' under a capitalistic market economy is as meaningless as to speak of limits of warfare under a warrior society. The moral pieties, that are voiced today by many well-meaning environmentalists, are as naive as the moral pieties of multinationals are manipulative. Capitalism can no more be 'persuaded' to limit growth than a human being can be 'persuaded' to stop breathing. Attempts to 'green' capitalism, to make it 'ecological', are doomed by the very nature of the system as a system of endless growth."

Capitalism is the problem, not humans. We can live in harmony with the planet and can harmonize our needs with those of the environment, but we can't do it until we abolish capitalism, in which there is no incentive not to grow endlessly to reap endless profits. If we are ever successful in attaining true communism, society will have realized that the purpose of industry is to fulfill the needs and desires of man, not to accumulate maximum profits for an elite few. When making decisions about industry we will be able to take into account that one of those needs is a pleasant and beautiful environment to live in.

[BlazedMonk3y]

right that endless growth is how cancer kills like i still believe were doing here but yea is so hard to live that way.

[Oneironaut]

Well, cancer surgery isn't exactly easy either, but we have to try to the best of our abilities.

[sm0k1t]

Well, cancer surgery isn't exactly easy either, but we have to try to the best of our abilities.

I'm glad to see that some of us still thinks that we can still get out of the enormous mess capitalism made

there is always a spark of hope hanging on life somewhere in the world

and we should honestly try to make that hope come true since we have nothing else of that importance to do in our lives.

I'll probably get killed tryin but hey! the way I see it...its a really good death =D
peace
:rasta: