View Full Version : fucking fur trade
MaRiAh
03-01-2006, 09:20 AM
http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/Prefs.asp?video=jcruel_china_dog
look what they do to them!!!! and the animals r so cute too :( thats so sick and wrong :(
Oneironaut
03-01-2006, 01:23 PM
I'm all for treating animals kindly. Heck, I'm even a vegetarian. But I cannot stand PETA and their intolerance to anyone who doesn't believe the same thing they do. They support people who use violence to get their point of view across, and that's called terrorism. It's giving us vegetarians a bad name. If you want to shut down the meat and fur industries, fine, go ahead and try to convince other people of that. I don't think it's a realistic goal, but whatever. Just don't support people who burn down animal research labs simply because they're not falling into line with your beliefs. Try to actually convince people with words that fur and meat is wrong. Go ahead; try to convince the Eskimos that they should all give up seal meat and polar bear hides, and see if they starve or freeze first. But it's not okay to blow up their igloos because they have a different diet than you, is it?
bedake
03-01-2006, 02:19 PM
I support the earth liberation fronts actions http://www.earthliberationfront.com/
w4terb0ng
03-01-2006, 02:22 PM
I'm all for treating animals kindly. Heck, I'm even a vegetarian. But I cannot stand PETA and their intolerance to anyone who doesn't believe the same thing they do. They support people who use violence to get their point of view across, and that's called terrorism. It's giving us vegetarians a bad name. If you want to shut down the meat and fur industries, fine, go ahead and try to convince other people of that. I don't think it's a realistic goal, but whatever. Just don't support people who burn down animal research labs simply because they're not falling into line with your beliefs. Try to actually convince people with words that fur and meat is wrong. Go ahead; try to convince the Eskimos that they should all give up seal meat and polar bear hides, and see if they starve or freeze first. But it's not okay to blow up their igloos because they have a different diet than you, is it?
My thoughts exactly.
except I'm not vegetarian.
bedake
03-01-2006, 02:31 PM
I have often thought, If the world were to become all vegetarians, what would happen to the thousands of cows bread for their dairy products and meat? What would happen to the millions of chickens? They would all be killed most likely, and what would happen to all the grazing cattle land? Most likely sold to be turned into shopping centers, Some would be converted to fields for crops sure, but alot wouldent. Being a dairy farmer is MUCH different than growing crops. Many farmers wouldent be able to afford the switch, farmers have a steady life style but are in debt half the year and rich the other half, its like a cycle.
iliketosmokeweed
03-01-2006, 02:33 PM
Try to actually convince people with words that fur and meat is wrong
I agree with most of what oneironaut said , except for the quote above . Meat is not wrong , it is a food source for humans and has been since the year dot , humans are carnivores . Its not wrong to eat meat , many animals themselves survive on diets of meat , so I have to disagree with you on that one !
bedake
03-01-2006, 02:43 PM
To oniernaught, you think fighting for anarchy is a worthy cause and realistic and trying to convince people eating meat is wrong and futile?
And im pretty sure, inuit tribes dont walk around wearing polar bear hides much anymore
buddymyfriend
03-01-2006, 02:45 PM
I wear fur pants at the weekend and have a pair of loafers made from gophers.
w4terb0ng
03-01-2006, 02:51 PM
When I have sex, I REFUSE to use anything but the freshly harvested stomach of a baby seal as a condom.
Powder Puff
03-01-2006, 03:01 PM
lol
I would love for PETA to come to the faroe islands, and try to stop whaling:)
Fucks sake man... The best you can do is, treat YOUR pets nicely:)
Starchild
03-01-2006, 04:17 PM
Agreed.However as much as Peta does they tend to turn some people off
lemonboy
03-01-2006, 04:23 PM
When I have sex, I REFUSE to use anything but the freshly harvested stomach of a baby seal as a condom.LOL.
Euphoric
03-01-2006, 04:35 PM
..To kill the animals without damaging their fur, trappers usually strangle, beat, or stomp them to death. Animals on fur farms may be gassed, electrocuted, poisoned with strychnine, or have their necks snapped. These methods are not 100 percent effective and some animals "wake up" while being skinned...An undercover investigation into one randomly selected Northeastern fur farm caught one fur farmer illegally killing minks by injecting an insecticide into their hearts. This crude method of killing causes animals to convulse for up to 10 minutes before they die.
You people are cold to support this.
w4terb0ng
03-01-2006, 05:37 PM
i don't support fur. i do, however, support the eating of meat.
bedake
03-01-2006, 05:43 PM
Man i have a few friends that have worked at pheasant farms, they tell me horror stories of em, drop kickin, shovels, strangling, all sorts of crap, sadistic people need to be watched more than drug users
w4terb0ng
03-01-2006, 05:48 PM
Man i have a few friends that have worked at pheasant farms, they tell me horror stories of em, drop kickin, shovels, strangling, all sorts of crap, sadistic people need to be watched more than drug users
you hear that piggies????
K, GO!
MaRiAh
03-01-2006, 07:28 PM
i dont even really know wtf peta is, i found that link in a pet forum called www.paw-talk.net
RastaKaze
03-01-2006, 07:31 PM
alls i know is that is the wrongest shit ever
MaRiAh
03-01-2006, 07:31 PM
the fur trade thingy is very wrong!!! they steal peoples pets and some of them still have their collars on when theyre killed
Joy.Discovery
03-01-2006, 07:39 PM
i cant object to the wearing of fur cause i eat meat.
i eat meat because i like it, when i could be perfectly healthy eating alternatives. people wear fur coz they like it, and they could be perfectly ok wearing other clothes. I fucking hate cruelty to animals nothing makes me more angry actually, but its always going to happen i just try to ignore it. but it really dossnt help when SELFRIGHTOUS FUCKERS PUT UP DISGUSTING PICTURES OF SUFFERING ANIMALS FOR EVERYONE TO SEE, that shit aint right and you're helping no one. want me to find some pics of people being tortured for you? anyway my main point is that people eating meat cant really complain about fur without being a hipocrit.
just my 2 cents and all that shit...
RastaKaze
03-01-2006, 07:41 PM
lol, na i think your wrong mate
we NEED food, we don't need to look nice in our furs
lmao
bedake
03-01-2006, 07:43 PM
I want to put up a picture of my feces, see if i can stop people from eating in general.... those poor poor nutrients
MaRiAh
03-01-2006, 07:44 PM
yah but they skin the fucking animals while theres still a little life left in some of them!!! in other words TORTURE them!!! and some of them used to b household pets.... crammed in cages and thrown around like that!!! poor animals.... i wish i could torture the people doing that to them..... its so fucked
MaRiAh
03-01-2006, 07:46 PM
I want to put up a picture of my feces, see if i can stop people from eating in general.... those poor poor nutrients
lmao:clap: ... hav fun w that one....
benagain
03-01-2006, 08:34 PM
yea that's fucked up. But then again, I don't really give a shit about fur. Now if I'm stranded in the snow somwhere, I'd skin anything I can find to stay warm.
friendowl
03-01-2006, 08:45 PM
eco-terrorist's are cool.
ill back up those guys anyday
nuggetgirl
03-01-2006, 09:10 PM
I don't believe in the science labs stealing family pets and doing weird tests on them. But I do believe in meat and fur. Come on guys, get back to your roots. Do you think that had our ancestors not hunted and trapped for food that the human civilization would still be around? Personally, I live in the country, and around here if we didn't get out the shotgun every now and again to shoot a damn coyote or even them stupid ass squirrels the animals would take over and we'd be outta a place to live. I personally get some kind of a sick satisfaction from blasting the head off of a raccoon while it's got itself stuck down in my damn garbage can. And I'll tell you what, after I blast that racoon if the old boy down the road wants to offer me 5 bucks for it's pelt it can have it.
It's the same way with deer too, if we didn't shoot em it'd be horrible.
So come on people get real...don't eat meat if you don't want to..but there's no need to freak out about stupid animals getting killed....
it's better than them giving you rabies!
bedake
03-01-2006, 09:18 PM
eco-terrorist's are cool.
ill back up those guys anyday
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Stop Wal mart and needless housing developments
activedenial
03-01-2006, 09:37 PM
Bring on the meat.;)
w4terb0ng
03-01-2006, 09:39 PM
you forgot the barbecue sauce dude.
lol, na i think your wrong mate
we NEED food, we don't need to look nice in our furs
lmao
Yeah we need food but we don't need meat to survive....
and there is the world of difference between wearing animal fur to survive and wearing it for pleasure.
I have written my thoughts about cruelt to animals in a big thread a little while ago there another disturbing video of animals beings skinned was posted.
And my thoughts are still the same.....I would prefere to see a worthless human tortured and killed than a worthless animal.
Some humans would deserve it more than animals.....why don't we just kill them and eat them....after all humans are only animals, we need to eat meat.............
Tetrahydrocannabinol
03-01-2006, 10:13 PM
I don't believe in the science labs stealing family pets and doing weird tests on them. But I do believe in meat and fur. Come on guys, get back to your roots. Do you think that had our ancestors not hunted and trapped for food that the human civilization would still be around? Personally, I live in the country, and around here if we didn't get out the shotgun every now and again to shoot a damn coyote or even them stupid ass squirrels the animals would take over and we'd be outta a place to live. I personally get some kind of a sick satisfaction from blasting the head off of a raccoon while it's got itself stuck down in my damn garbage can. And I'll tell you what, after I blast that racoon if the old boy down the road wants to offer me 5 bucks for it's pelt it can have it.
It's the same way with deer too, if we didn't shoot em it'd be horrible.
So come on people get real...don't eat meat if you don't want to..but there's no need to freak out about stupid animals getting killed....
it's better than them giving you rabies!
would you want to live like this? Youre on the internet supporting this. This is anything but natural.
* Factory farm hens have less space than a sheet of notebook paper in which to live.
http://www.factoryfarming.com/gallery/photos_video.htm
w4terb0ng
03-01-2006, 10:18 PM
you're right.
we need bigger warehouses. :)
MaRiAh
03-01-2006, 10:24 PM
its okay to kill animals for food or fur if u really need it but you should at least like kill it humanely and not torture the poor thing.... they do feel pain you know -.- and sadness and fear
would u like to die slowly in extreme pain and scared shitless?
Oneironaut
03-01-2006, 10:38 PM
I agree with most of what oneironaut said , except for the quote above . Meat is not wrong , it is a food source for humans and has been since the year dot , humans are carnivores . Its not wrong to eat meat , many animals themselves survive on diets of meat , so I have to disagree with you on that one !
I'm not saying fur and meat are wrong. I have no problem wearing fur myself,and I support other people's right to eat meat. My vegetarianism is more of an aesthetic thing than a moral one. I just don't like the thought of putting dead animals in my mouth. My point was that if somebody does believe that fur and meat are ethically wrong, they should be trying to convince other people with words and not with violence and threats.
Oneironaut
03-01-2006, 10:44 PM
its okay to kill animals for food or fur if u really need it but you should at least like kill it humanely and not torture the poor thing.... they do feel pain you know -.- and sadness and fear
would u like to die slowly in extreme pain and scared shitless?
If that's what you believe, I don't think PETA is the group for you. It's pretty clear that the PETA leadership is against all killing or testing of animals, not just for doing it in a humane manner. Here's what Ingrid Newkirk has to say about it:
"Even if animal tests produced a cure for AIDS, we'd be against it."
"I wish we all would get up and go into the labs and take the animals out or burn them down."
"Pet ownership is an absolutely abysmal situation brought about by human manipulation."
That's right. If PETA had their way, the vast majority of biomedical research which is leading the way in curing the diseases which afflict us, as well as the meat industry, the fur industry, zoos, and even pet-owners would be stopped by the legislator's pen, the policeman's club and the terrorist's bomb. Is that what you want?
MaRiAh
03-01-2006, 10:53 PM
as i sed b4 i dont care about peta -.- i found that video link in a pet forum on www.paw-talk.com for fucks sake every1 keeps thinking im some kinda peta person
benagain
03-01-2006, 11:06 PM
Meat = Good
Fruit and veggies = Suck
nuggetgirl
03-03-2006, 10:51 PM
Come on people get real...they're cows, they're chickens, they're turkeys. LOL It's a way of life. I hope none of you vegetarians eat stawberries, cause them poor mexicans get whipped and kicked if they don't pick fast enough LOL. come on guys yall are rediculous. THEY"RE CHICKENS!
bedake
03-03-2006, 11:41 PM
Come on people get real...they're cows, they're chickens, they're turkeys. LOL It's a way of life. I hope none of you vegetarians eat stawberries, cause them poor mexicans get whipped and kicked if they don't pick fast enough LOL. come on guys yall are rediculous. THEY"RE CHICKENS!
yea i feel the same way... its just chickens, they dont have brains or nerve endings or anything! Same goes for humans! thats why i support cannabalism 100%
BizzleLuvin
03-03-2006, 11:50 PM
this made me cry, it really really did
da haze meister
03-03-2006, 11:53 PM
thats so sad... i have three dogs... that literally brought me to tears. but peta are a bunch of insane fuckers.
da haze meister
03-04-2006, 12:00 AM
ok nuggetgirl i cant quote ya cause my fucking comp sucks and wont post that big, but seriously, i mean, those are domesticated dogs. fuckin in little teeny cages getting kicked around. i am all for hunting, but these animals are defenseless.
MaRiAh
03-04-2006, 05:38 AM
Come on people get real...they're cows, they're chickens, they're turkeys. LOL It's a way of life. I hope none of you vegetarians eat stawberries, cause them poor mexicans get whipped and kicked if they don't pick fast enough LOL. come on guys yall are rediculous. THEY"RE CHICKENS!
theyre not chickens ... theyre dogs and cats that used to be peoples pets....
-.-
Stoner Shadow Wolf
03-04-2006, 05:43 AM
fucking fer trade? okay!
no, i have nothing to contribute.
Smokey Bear
03-04-2006, 05:52 AM
I'm all for treating animals kindly. Heck, I'm even a vegetarian. But I cannot stand PETA and their intolerance to anyone who doesn't believe the same thing they do. They support people who use violence to get their point of view across, and that's called terrorism. It's giving us vegetarians a bad name. If you want to shut down the meat and fur industries, fine, go ahead and try to convince other people of that. I don't think it's a realistic goal, but whatever. Just don't support people who burn down animal research labs simply because they're not falling into line with your beliefs. Try to actually convince people with words that fur and meat is wrong. Go ahead; try to convince the Eskimos that they should all give up seal meat and polar bear hides, and see if they starve or freeze first. But it's not okay to blow up their igloos because they have a different diet than you, is it?
THANK YOU!!!
My sister and I preach the injustice of PETA and people think we are mean or something. PETA is a group of fucking terrorists.
higher4hockey
03-06-2006, 12:20 AM
I support the NRA!! It blows my mind how people can bitch about cruelty to animals, watch the national geographic channel if you want to talk about cruelty, I watched a program the other day about sea eagles or something like that, they were literally eating a baby seal alive.
420purplehaze420
03-06-2006, 12:40 AM
stranegly nothing pisses me off more than cruelty to animals.
i wish i could torture the people who are doing that to animals even if there starving and working for pennies a day.
throwing kittens off the top of a bus all crammed into cages is just fucking dispicable.
that clip has left me pissed off and in a shitty mood
im off to smoke a bowl
Mingles
03-07-2006, 05:12 AM
I don't believe in the science labs stealing family pets and doing weird tests on them. But I do believe in meat and fur. Come on guys, get back to your roots. Do you think that had our ancestors not hunted and trapped for food that the human civilization would still be around? Personally, I live in the country, and around here if we didn't get out the shotgun every now and again to shoot a damn coyote or even them stupid ass squirrels the animals would take over and we'd be outta a place to live. I personally get some kind of a sick satisfaction from blasting the head off of a raccoon while it's got itself stuck down in my damn garbage can. And I'll tell you what, after I blast that racoon if the old boy down the road wants to offer me 5 bucks for it's pelt it can have it.
It's the same way with deer too, if we didn't shoot em it'd be horrible.
So come on people get real...don't eat meat if you don't want to..but there's no need to freak out about stupid animals getting killed....
it's better than them giving you rabies!
Damn, you are the perfect example of what gives the rest of us Iowans a hick backwoods reputation.
I too, live in Iowa, but as opposed to Bobbi Sue here, I disagree with nearly every single thing she uttered out of her slack-jawed yokel country bumpkin mouth. Keep in mind folks, this is the same area of Iowa that has had two psychopaths break into an animal shelter specificly to kill cats and succeeded in about 50 deaths. They were given a minimal fine and thats it. One juror was quoted as saying, "Those guys weren't doing anything really wrong. Who hasn't killed a few cats?"
he difference is, we aren't our ancestors. We don't eat meat out of necessity to make sure we stay alive. Its a little different having to kill an animal to keep your family from going hungry, which is what our ancestors did.
bedake
03-07-2006, 05:14 AM
Damn, you are the perfect example of what gives the rest of us Iowans a hick backwoods reputation.
I
yea i was kinda thinkin somethin along the lines of that, although im not from iowa
MaRiAh
03-07-2006, 05:25 AM
no need to freak out about stupid animals getting killed....
it's better than them giving you rabies!
stupid animals? lol i bet i could point out a few animals that are smarter than u -.-
Oneironaut
03-07-2006, 05:31 AM
I can see why you would have a problem killing something like a dolphin or a chimpanzee, but I would hesitate to say that all animals deserve the same treatment. Surely it's okay to smack a mosquito on your arm or cut a worm in half with a shovel while digging, right? You have to draw the line somewhere, and I think it's okay to draw it so that people can continue enjoying their hamburgers and fur coats.
MaRiAh
03-07-2006, 05:36 AM
http://fish-school.com/gallery.htm
here is an example.... nuggetgirl
Jeff Spicoli
03-07-2006, 05:50 AM
who would win in a fight, nuggetgirl or a gold fish? natural selection, bitch.
that being said, cruetly to animals pisses me off as an animal lover, but we aren't going to be able to do anything about it
easton
03-07-2006, 07:54 AM
PETA is a terroristic cult
dumb idiots come up and cause problems with us hunters....they are total assholes and have no respect for anything. we actually caught them trespassing and letting cattle out.
and as far as animal rights, im a christian and believe animals serve mankind. its just reality that animals are harvested for fur, meat, and other products.
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