About to do LSA soon, help appreciated. PLEASE READ.

[EternalEnemy]

Ok, here is the deal. Im very unexperiences with these things, and ive been high off of weed for only three times, and im going to do morning glory in about week and a half or two weeks or whatever.
Now, i do understand that i should smoke more weed before going into psychedelic, but i have a few reasons why i wont, and they are:
1. I cant get weed, belive me, ive tried.
And those were it.

So, im gonna do it with three other people. One of them has done weed, i dont know how much, but way more than i have. Also he has done X once. The other two have never smoked weed.
So,:
-1 who did X and a lot of weed
-1 who smoked weed 3 times(me, yay)
-2 who never have smoked weed
All of us, of course, drink alcohol like all finnish bastards.

Now, i dont know how bad idea this is, but we are going to do it anyway, no matter what you say, but you can say it anyway and any advices are more than welcome.

Ive been telling them not to take more than 100 at their first time. Going 200 right away would not be wise, right? And what do YOU (that means you, not erowid. im trying to get many different opinions, not just one site) suggest me to do if i or someone else will get a bad trip? Im sure il be able to handle things(i think, at least), but how do you calm someone who has a bad trip on LSA?

And anything that you think i should know, tell me. Yes, ive been reading erowid already.

[PureEvil760]

Dont think into it too much and have fun. Does'nt matter how much you smoke weed acid is a completely different experience.

[EternalEnemy]

Im talking about LSA, not LSD.


...or do they call LSA acid too???

[twiztidmxcn]

LSA is an analogue of LSD, fairly different

There are several things you need to know.

1) Wash the seeds. If you buy them from a store or online, make sure they're non-coated, as the preservative coatings can cause you to be abnormally sick or die if you take too much

2) You can eat 100/200 easily. i've eaten them once or twice and varying dosages, first ate about 200 the second time 500. either way, you get sick at the beginning before you come up, thats normal, don't worry.

and by several, i mean two

[EternalEnemy]

Ok. Well, i havent yet bought them, but we are about to order them from azarius.com, since its pretty damn cheap there(20g=800 seeds=8 euros= like a few trips), and ive heard that they are not a cheating company. Can anyone confirm this?

Also, since its a site that sells salvia and all that stuff, i would believe that they are untreated, am i right? Ok, i think i know everything i need to know, except this: if they ARE treated, should i throw them away or use with moderation? how much will get me sick/how sick/kill me?

[friendowl]

your expecting too much.
morning glorys suck
get hawaian baby rose wood seeds
take 20 seeds each.
get pliers and crush the seeds and soak in water for two hours.
you can filter trhe seeds out or drink like that.
the taste aint bad and youll feel good in like a hour.
nothing major but daydreaming becomes more fun and the music
might sound a lil better but thats about all.no visuals or uncontroolable behavior.its fun to try but not that great

[EternalEnemy]

your expecting too much.
morning glorys suck
get hawaian baby rose wood seeds
take 20 seeds each.
get pliers and crush the seeds and soak in water for two hours.
you can filter trhe seeds out or drink like that.
the taste aint bad and youll feel good in like a hour.
nothing major but daydreaming becomes more fun and the music
might sound a lil better but thats about all.no visuals or uncontroolable behavior.its fun to try but not that great

Some people say that. On the other hand, some people are out of their little mind for what ive read. Ive also heard it varies a lot. You might get a pretty strong trip from 100, and 300 might not affect that much, and at times it doesent feel like anything and on the other hand, you might see crazy visuals and get insane thought patterns. I dunno myself, but what ive understood that at worst its nothing, and at best its almost like acid. Ive never done acid, though.

[friendowl]

dont get the gories.
300 of anything in your stomach your body will reject

[EternalEnemy]

They are cheap and we are poor.

[God v2.0]

your expecting too much.
morning glorys suck
get hawaian baby rose wood seeds
take 20 seeds each.
get pliers and crush the seeds and soak in water for two hours.
you can filter trhe seeds out or drink like that.
the taste aint bad and youll feel good in like a hour.
nothing major but daydreaming becomes more fun and the music
might sound a lil better but thats about all.no visuals or uncontroolable behavior.its fun to try but not that great

20 EACH????? ARE YOU TRYING TO FRY THEIR BRAINS OUT??? DONT TAKE 20, maybe get 20 total and do 5 each for the first time, i did 3 HBWR seeds once and i didnt get all the shell off (it contains a very harsh toxin) and so i was feeling kinda crappy, but the trip was insane i was soooooo happy i felt like jumping up and down and screaming, my pupils got soooooo huge and were dialating/contracting a an amazing speed it was like open iris, close, open, close,. it was kinda cool to watch...also when i tried to walk the muscles in my back didnt work so i was limp in the upper part of my body but my legs worked fine, however it was very hard to tell if i was collapsed into a heap on the floor or if i was still standing up. then i made the best nachos EVER

[God v2.0]

also dont soak them in water, the alkaloids arent very soluable in water. LSA is a very powerfull hallucinogen, you just have to do it right, its like when idiot potsmokers topshelf their hits and then go on and on about how weed doesnt do anything to them......well hmmmm maybe because you have to inhale the smoke into your lungs cock-face.

[EternalEnemy]

Ok. So, if i take normal water from the...whats the word. You know, from where you usually take water from, wash the hands etc.(im bad at english). So it contains chlorine and if i put the seeds in there, will it destroy the LSA? Do i need to have the umm....different kind of water? And is 3 or 6 hours or something alright, or do they need to be in there for like 24 hours? And can i soak them first, then crush them and then drink it with water or juice or something? Do i put some fairy or soap or whatever it is called, and how much?

[EternalEnemy]

Oh, you just said that. So i dont wash them at all?

[God v2.0]

wash the morning glories for sure with a tiny bit of soap and cold water,

but you cant do a water extraction of LSA without losing like 90% of your product.

you should get hawiian baby woodrose seeds, that way you dont have to chew up hundreds of tiny little seeds. just take 5 HBWR seeds and break off the dark brown fuzzy husk (this is what contains alot of the poisons that give you an upset stomach) then if you want to you can chew up the seeds and hold them under your tounge for about 20 min and keep chewing then if you feel like you can take it then just swallow the quid (chewed up plant matter)

just be sure you dont have anything to do the next day and try not to do them at night because you CANT fall asleep on LSA

[homemade]

anyway just try to have fun...and dont die

[ATHF]

if u gonna take morning glories, take a half o, amazing visuals

[EternalEnemy]

I already said, we are poor and morning glories are cheaper than HBW:s.

So, how long do i need them to be in the cold water when i wash them? Just quickly wash them or soak them a few hours?