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HippieBeatMan1
02-23-2006, 07:36 AM
I was just wondering what your opinions on anarchy are, or what the ideal form of government, or non-government would be.
Shelbay
02-23-2006, 07:44 AM
I believe that some people to an extent should have some kind of order..just my opinion but I don't like the idea of NO accountability...as in rape,murder (not self-defense) but as in killing just to be killing...there are evil people among us that would do that imo...anarchy is as scary to me as our current Gov.
CYRAX
02-23-2006, 02:25 PM
alot of people think anarchy is all about punks, i rap and im an anarchist...
the government does nothing to make me happy, nor alot of my friends, they are a waste of breathe...
clock
02-23-2006, 02:34 PM
I think anarchy will clear a path for a far worse gov. because after a while people would be willing to accept any form of gov. but that's just what I think but I know anarchy is foolish
CYRAX
02-23-2006, 03:14 PM
Yeah anarchy isnt gonna do anything... but thats not the point... the point of anarchy is to disagree with government surroundings, it doesnt mean we are going to stop governing or anything... we just simply dont like it...
bonsaiguy
02-23-2006, 04:23 PM
alot of people think anarchy is all about punks, i rap and im an anarchist...
the government does nothing to make me happy, nor alot of my friends, they are a waste of breathe...
What makes you think the government can do a good job of making you happy
(they would fuck that up just like everything else they do) and is it really their job to do so?
VoidLivesOn
02-23-2006, 08:15 PM
Someone once told me...
Anarchy is a system against a system.
I think its just one big...I don't know how to put it.
Isn't anarchy just a bunch of people with autonomist views? Well what about people who don't want to live like that?...wouldn't an "anarchist" telling someone to live the way they want to be against there whole foundation?
I really just don't get it.But who cares....those red anarchy signs really look good on my peers sweat bands and shoe strings..*rolls eyes*.
CYRAX
02-23-2006, 08:47 PM
i dont wear any anarchy 'apparel' ect, i just know what i beleive in and im confident about that cuz i aint a stuck up bitch..
bedake
02-23-2006, 09:30 PM
i dont wear any anarchy 'apparel' ect, i just know what i beleive in and im confident about that cuz i aint a stuck up bitch..
hey cyrax, imagine for a minute there was no government 2 years ago, nor today. What would you be doing for fun? Thats right! you would be tending to your garden, you would be walking 2 miles to a river for a bucket of water, you would be defending your territory against people wanting to take it from you. You would never be having fun. Ever see any documentary about life back in the day? With no govt there is no electricity food, food inspection groups, you need a government unless you feel like working 24/7 you know up untill recently child hood ended at like age 10 when you went to go work in a field for 15 hours a day?
have fun living in a mud hole, your house would deteriorate very fast. imagine no toilet paper, infact no running water so you cant flush your toilet.
mont974x4
02-23-2006, 09:51 PM
hmmm how about just a way more limited fed government?
HippieBeatMan1
02-23-2006, 10:06 PM
hey cyrax, imagine for a minute there was no government 2 years ago, nor today. What would you be doing for fun? Thats right! you would be tending to your garden, you would be walking 2 miles to a river for a bucket of water, you would be defending your territory against people wanting to take it from you. You would never be having fun. Ever see any documentary about life back in the day? With no govt there is no electricity food, food inspection groups, you need a government unless you feel like working 24/7 you know up untill recently child hood ended at like age 10 when you went to go work in a field for 15 hours a day?
have fun living in a mud hole, your house would deteriorate very fast. imagine no toilet paper, infact no running water so you cant flush your toilet.
Everything you said is wrong.
First of all, if we had no government, we would not be sent back to primitive times. People could do most of the same thing everyday, and the only work they would have to do would be to better the community. There would be no big corporations or businesses for people to work at every doing the same boring thing over and over.
And, even if we did go back to a form of primitive living, which i assume is what you meant by back in the day, you are completely wrong with them having to work all the time. Primitive people hunted and gathered food, they did not farm, and scientists say that these people, along with the Native Americans and other "uncivilized" people were among the most peaceful people ever to walk the earth. They did not go around killing other for possessions, because people weren't materialistic like they are now.
Scientists also say that these people had more leisure time than "civilized" humans have had their whole life, this is because they only work they did was to survive and better the community.
So in fact, we would probably 15 or more hours a day doing what we wanted, and smoking cannabis, that we could grow legally, and not being mindless drones under the capitalist machine who oppress us today.
HippieBeatMan1
02-23-2006, 10:08 PM
Yeah anarchy isnt gonna do anything... but thats not the point... the point of anarchy is to disagree with government surroundings, it doesnt mean we are going to stop governing or anything... we just simply dont like it...
This is wrong, anarchy is about opposing the government, and if the world practiced anarchism there would be no government, decisions would be made in a true democracy where anyone who decides to vote will have a true say in what happens.
eg420ne
02-23-2006, 10:11 PM
Everything you said is wrong.
First of all, if we had no government, we would not be sent back to primitive times. People could do most of the same thing everyday, and the only work they would have to do would be to better the community. There would be no big corporations or businesses for people to work at every doing the same boring thing over and over.
And, even if we did go back to a form of primitive living, which i assume is what you meant by back in the day, you are completely wrong with them having to work all the time. Primitive people hunted and gathered food, they did not farm, and scientists say that these people, along with the Native Americans and other "uncivilized" people were among the most peaceful people ever to walk the earth. They did not go around killing other for possessions, because people weren't materialistic like they are now.
Scientists also say that these people had more leisure time than "civilized" humans have had their whole life, this is because they only work they did was to survive and better the community.
So in fact, we would probably 15 or more hours a day doing what we wanted, and smoking cannabis, that we could grow legally, and not being mindless drones under the capitalist machine who oppress us today.
Good post:thumbsup:
HippieBeatMan1
02-23-2006, 10:13 PM
Someone once told me...
Anarchy is a system against a system.
I think its just one big...I don't know how to put it.
Isn't anarchy just a bunch of people with autonomist views? Well what about people who don't want to live like that?...wouldn't an "anarchist" telling someone to live the way they want to be against there whole foundation?
I really just don't get it.But who cares....those red anarchy signs really look good on my peers sweat bands and shoe strings..*rolls eyes*.
Anyone that wants to be oppressed and be a subordinate to someone else and be ruled over, has either been brainwashed by constant conditioning of the right wing media, or completely retarded,
afterall anarchy is the radical idea that everyone should be equal
HippieBeatMan1
02-23-2006, 10:14 PM
Good post:thumbsup:
Thanks man
eg420ne
02-23-2006, 10:26 PM
Theres been many quotes about the government that says dont trust it...We need less government, you can see now that having a big government like we have now is not good, its a shame we the people let it get this out of control..Peace
Some writers have so confounded society with government, as to leave little or no distinction between them; whereas they are not only different, but have different origins ... Society is in every state a blessing, but Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one.
--Thomas Paine,
bedake
02-23-2006, 10:33 PM
whatever im done arguing with anarchists, they are too idealistic to realize, they are so devoted sometimes they refuse to acknowledge any sense. anarchists are to liberals as nazis are to conservatives
eg420ne
02-23-2006, 10:44 PM
whatever im done arguing with anarchists, they are too idealistic to realize, they are so devoted sometimes they refuse to acknowledge any sense. anarchists are to liberals as nazis are to conservatives
What you said made me want to post my thought on our current situation-- Just like the Republicans unable to acknowledge that our government being ruined by the Neo-Cons in the whitehouse err i mean terrorist in the whitehouse.....LoL:stoned: I support the Constitution.. Your either with the Constitution or your against the Constitution......
bedake
02-23-2006, 11:00 PM
i dont think you understand me, i am an extremly liberal person i am an activist, a protestor, and a member of greenpeace, i am not some republican conservative, i just dont believe in anarchy
Shelbay
02-24-2006, 12:09 AM
Everything you said is wrong.
First of all, if we had no government, we would not be sent back to primitive times. People could do most of the same thing everyday, and the only work they would have to do would be to better the community. There would be no big corporations or businesses for people to work at every doing the same boring thing over and over.
And, even if we did go back to a form of primitive living, which i assume is what you meant by back in the day, you are completely wrong with them having to work all the time. Primitive people hunted and gathered food, they did not farm, and scientists say that these people, along with the Native Americans and other "uncivilized" people were among the most peaceful people ever to walk the earth. They did not go around killing other for possessions, because people weren't materialistic like they are now.
Scientists also say that these people had more leisure time than "civilized" humans have had their whole life, this is because they only work they did was to survive and better the community.
So in fact, we would probably 15 or more hours a day doing what we wanted, and smoking cannabis, that we could grow legally, and not being mindless drones under the capitalist machine who oppress us today.
I think you are mistaken not bedake...nice scene you paint but that would not happen..seriously..we argue on this board!! lol You honestly think all people that survive anarchy would just all get along?? Yeah right.
Stoner Shadow Wolf
02-24-2006, 12:26 AM
I think you are mistaken not bedake...nice scene you paint but that would not happen..seriously..we argue on this board!! lol You honestly think all people that survive anarchy would just all get along?? Yeah right.
no, not all people would "just" get along, but well over 80% would, and that is more than enough to defend each other from the unruly people who would keep trying to reestablish government.
as we are now, anarchy would blow up in our faces right away, but after a few years, all the stupid s and greedies would be gone and long dead, and people would slowly come out of their ignorant warring amongst each other.
however, we have internet. we can use that to bring more people together and make a bond to fight the power.
shame not enough people are willing to "take that risk."
believe me, y'all are risking a lot more by NOT taking that risk.
Shelbay
02-24-2006, 01:07 AM
no, not all people would "just" get along, but well over 80% would, and that is more than enough to defend each other from the unruly people who would keep trying to reestablish government.
as we are now, anarchy would blow up in our faces right away, but after a few years, all the stupid s and greedies would be gone and long dead, and people would slowly come out of their ignorant warring amongst each other.
however, we have internet. we can use that to bring more people together and make a bond to fight the power.
shame not enough people are willing to "take that risk."
believe me, y'all are risking a lot more by NOT taking that risk.
Not sure who your referring to about risk but I will "assume" you include me in your supposition. Actually I agree with you post...I do want a change but not at the mercy of another Government. You just have a better way with putting things than I do. Because whether you believe this yourself or not...I share your belief..you just have to be sooo careful sharing ...when what happens ..happens??..times will change and the first thing I am concerned with is my loved ones because I truly believe you will have roaming "gangs" pulling people from their hiding places and slaughtering them...yes you have to build your own "communities" and then the the "scene" could be accomplished. Hope I made sense because it has been a few days now since I can do my thing so to speak and I tend to quickly go from 1 thing 2 another lol. Really good post.:thumbsup:
VoidLivesOn
02-24-2006, 02:11 AM
I'm just saying...knowing all this information is sorta feckless if its not ever going to be put to use.
VoidLivesOn
02-24-2006, 02:15 AM
Anyone that wants to be oppressed and be a subordinate to someone else and be ruled over, has either been brainwashed by constant conditioning of the right wing media, or completely retarded,
afterall anarchy is the radical idea that everyone should be equal
I guess I live around a plethora of brainwashed retards then.Or there just all sane.Is it everyone has the right to be equal or just...lazy?
I'm just kidding...hah..hah...hah...:dance: :cool:
HippieBeatMan1
02-24-2006, 02:45 AM
lol
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