Shelbay!

[VoidLivesOn]

How did you like that movie?

[VoidLivesOn]

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[Shelbay]

haha..it was good in the way it portrayed some things (not getting into it all today) but made me kind of scared..and when these movie producers want to do a movie on a Southern Woman like that...darn..get an actress that is a REAL Southerner..MG was the spoiling factor for me..detested her and her fake "accent"....(darn phone brb)..okay back..why are you so intersted in my viewpoint on this movie? I mean I'm not getting into a public thing with it anymore but really curious?? Why did YOU like it? And yeah..I am glad I ordered it so thanks for the heads (lol) up on it anyway...and you freaked me out with my own thread...lol;)

[Nochowderforyou]

What movie did you watch? Just wondering. :)

[VoidLivesOn]

Well when you were talkign about being in an Alabama prison for shooting your husband who was hurting oyu I automatically thought of this movie, and thought it would be fair to share it with you.BUt I don't know as soon as I show people things I always want to know what there feed back was, on something I spent the time trying to show them.Haha but in no way did I know you were such a big movie/buff/critic.But I'm glad you sort of enjoyed it? And I don't know why I liked it so much, probably just in the fact it was something different, and actually kept me interested.

[Shelbay]

Well when you were talkign about being in an Alabama prison for shooting your husband who was hurting oyu I automatically thought of this movie, and thought it would be fair to share it with you.BUt I don't know as soon as I show people things I always want to know what there feed back was, on something I spent the time trying to show them.Haha but in no way did I know you were such a big movie/buff/critic.But I'm glad you sort of enjoyed it? And I don't know why I liked it so much, probably just in the fact it was something different, and actually kept me interested.
Okay..thats cool..just some people tend to be mean and I wasn't sure..I did enjoy it...and I appreciate your time since it's genuine interest.:) Maybe it's something in the water here because there is a movie based on Audrey Marie Hilley from Alabama...she was what people called a "black widow" even tried killing her own daughter...I was actually in there with her and at that time you could earn "weekend pass"..well she finally gets the right warden..gets her furlough...and disappears right..well it was cold in Alabama that weekend and doing what she was not supposed to be doing she leaves the motel where she was with her husband and "disappears"..anyway long story short..she is found later that evening crawling up on a womans porch and actually died from exposure...after that one..no more furloughs. True..check it out...thanks again for the heads up..wondered if you caught that one..I know,I know..terrible of me..but yes I enjoyed it. I love movies..takes you away from reality right? And can be educational lol. What is another favorite of yours..your mind is very interesting....:)

[VoidLivesOn]

Theres this B rated film, a friend turned me onto a few years ago.THis boy filmed a movie called KIDS.It was filmed in New York in 93.Basically a day in some teenagers living in the city.Sex,drugs,partys,fights,AID's, and its like a smack in teh face when you watch it.Theres nothing PC or fake about it.Its just blunt and in your face.

[Shelbay]

Hey..your back..thought you lost interest after I got interested.;) Your going to extend my movie library I can already tell...Now that is what I like..TRUE LIFE....not a pc contest.,bs..and etc..Of course I like the fiction when I just want to chill but I actually enjoy non fiction because most of the time..those back my beliefs. People live lies everyday but the ones that "fight back" so to speak to show it how it really is..yes I much prefer....just seems that those type movies are not the POPULAR or MAJORITY....now I have to google kids...you really intrigue me void...not often I talk with someone on the net that I really wonder what kind of person they are....you don't conform so much either do you?

[VoidLivesOn]

Hehe, thats very good insight you have there.I guess the only person I'm set out to satisfy on this earth is really just me.Probably the best way to put it.

Did you have any luck on finding KIDS? Thats really just a movie everyone should see.I'm not sure how easy it is to find though.

[Harvesthetic]

It's available in every video library in Belgium, Void, you might consider some sort of p2p network to get it ;). I have no legs btw. Remember? Horrible scenes, but frighteningly realistically depicted, in your face violence, not farfetched at all.
If you have time, watch & share this with your friends maybe. It's a damn comprehensive view on the events of 9/11. Don't be frightened by the content, it's grade A material made by a 21 year old guy named Dylan Avery.

http://www.cerebellum.tv/fvideo/LooseChange2.php

[Shelbay]

Still looking on google...trying to match the year 93..NY and kids...if you find the link first post it for me please..and I am doing this "sober" right now so it is difficult for me to concentrate on 1 thing for a long time. haha...you do learn some things in that place that are useful..such as body language....even though I guess you could say I haven't watched your body so much as much as paying attention to the questions you ask and why you ask them..make sense? I really hope so. I had a post disappear..what happened? I think I posted because it was a loong one...I know I text'd it but it's not here....and it was a good one!

[Harvesthetic]

are you looking for the movie information? http://imdb.com/title/tt0113540/

[VoidLivesOn]

Okay well then Harv, I'll check out your video.

Shelbay I'll see if I can find a link.

and then if you like this movie theres 2 other b rated films that will smack you in the face, your really gatta see.

[VoidLivesOn]

oh he beat me to it!

[Shelbay]

It's available in every video library in Belgium, Void, you might consider some sort of p2p network to get it ;). I have no legs btw. Remember? Horrible scenes, but frighteningly realistically depicted, in your face violence, not farfetched at all.
If you have time, watch & share this with your friends maybe. It's a damn comprehensive view on the events of 9/11. Don't be frightened by the content, it's grade A material made by a 21 year old guy named Dylan Avery.

http://www.cerebellum.tv/fvideo/LooseChange2.php
Well I read this AFTER I posted...point taken and thanks for that link...Void lets p2p..I like the way you think;) haha..still want to know where my other post went....I just like the truth..and people do not see that when they go to see the majority of the popular movies with the actors in them that get payed 20 million to do one movie.....Give me non-fiction. Oh yes void..do you enjoy WWII movies? Not like Modern day Pearl Harbor but the ones with real footage? I love watching the footage on some of those planes....man we had some real heroes from that war you never even hear the names! I didn't even know who Doris Miller was until Pearl Harbor...he should have a movie made in his memory..great man..

[VoidLivesOn]

Ok if yo go to like a local blockbuster or something, wherever you rent...they should have this movie.This movie left me with my thumb up my ass.I was in complete awe.

Rollercoaster:

Rollercoaster spends a day with five extremely confused adolescents who's lives have seen more lows than highs. They break into an abandoned amusement park as a diversion from their lives in a group home. Two of the characters have made a suicide-pact, and another keeps a painful secret.

Scott Smith put in an outstanding amount of work as the writer, director and producer of Rollercoaster. Having made its world premiere at the Toronto International Film Festival in 1999 it has since been presented at over thirty other festivals worldwide. The course of transit has allowed it to win numerous awards and nominations, critical acclaim, and praise from audiences, while at the same time stirring up controversy among those who think it depraved.

Smith utilizes direction and the cinematography by Robert Aschmann to an amazingly natural effect. Visually organizing the troubled adolescents and realistically communicating the themes of suicide, homosexuality, abuse, love and friendship; Scott executes this with documentary-style cinematography and at times a captivating use of lighting.

The five teens have stolen their counsellor's car and headed to a defunct amusement park. The group consists of Stick (Brendan Fletcher in an amazing performance), Chloe (Crystal Bublé), Darrin (Kett Turton), Justin (Brent Glenen) and Sanj (Sean Amsing). Chloe and Darrin are two young lovers in a confusing bind who make a pact of love to jump from the top of the rollercoaster at the park.

The abandoned amusement park appears to serve as a perfect paradoxical metaphor, highlighting the intrinsic turmoil faced by the teens: The joy associated with innocence as well as the dreadful sense of loneliness. The rollercoaster almost mirrors the emotional one the characters are all experiencing, with twists, plateaus, drops and valleys.

To thoroughly communicate the realism of the adolescents' anxiety, and the issues at hand, Smith directs the film with a style much like hand-held documentaries, which emphasizes the feeling of here-and-now.

The slight incessant, but fluid movement of the camera almost allows the viewers to sit as a bystander in the presence of the characters. Such is the case when the kids are huddled in a little shack while they share their booze, drugs, and intimate feelings. The close-ups of characters faces, low-key lighting, and long static frames increase the unspoken tension between the friends, along with their consolidated feelings of powerlessness and frustration in general. This is the only scene in which Smith really emphasizes their friendship to one another with their opening up about their feelings, though the high-contrast lighting sets the scene with a feeling of obscurity and isolation in characters - which proves accurate as the film progresses.

Though approaching the end for Chloe and Darrin, as all the characters have deviated through fits of mistrust, and confusion with love, friendship and even truth with one another - the stress settles and dusk darkens to night. The rapid flashing lights of the park juxtaposed with the kids fuelling of booze, drugs, love and tension works with Bob Aschmann's stunning cinematography capturing the truth behind the characters' feelings, accents an incredible beginning of the end. A stunning sequence in which Darrin stands atop the rollercoaster as he considers his suicide, is augmented with a close-up of his face, while the lights of the ride rapidly light his facial expressions with constant low-key multicoloured blocks of lights in reds, greens, and yellows, occasionally falling in to the blackness of night behind him.

The shaking of the camera, rapid, bright and contrasting lights, only increase the tension of an already intense situation. Smith works to explore the scene of suicide, though he does not however attempt to explore the idea, nor intellectualize the psychology of it as much as the emotion of the moment.

However, though Smith uses his techniques quite effectively, at times the prolonged scenes of aimless walking around the amusement park or the chat between characters and almost insignificant character of Sanj seem to distract the viewer from the tensions. Though in select cases it works to highlight the extremes of the dull reality with the tension and drama unfolding.

Despite this minute detail, Smith reaches to push the envelope with the most "controversial" aspect of the movie; that of Stick's coming to terms with his homosexuality, along with his molestation by a "nice-guy" security guard. This adds an element of complete confusion and disequilibrium. The horrible paralyzation a kid would face after being molested by a person of the same sex while he struggles to come to terms with his sexual orientation, and dealing with that, acts to utterly confuse and daunt him; and the audience.

There is nothing stereotypical about the characters, who are played with an astuteness beyond their years by a gifted cast. The viewer sees the world through each one's eyes throughout the narrative structure: the bleak and cruel world made only endurable by their adolescent antics supported with drugs, and alcohol. The film concludes with a multitude of unanswered questions about the characters, which only seems to capture the reality and directness of their experience even more.

[Shelbay]

are you looking for the movie information? http://imdb.com/title/tt0113540/
hah Your are one of the good ones...We knew it!;) Thank You again for the link...your quick..wish I worked that fast. I need to smoke a good one....haha:) Okay void I am going to check out the links...be back and I WILL let you know what I think...you just keep stimulating these brain cells...they need it.:)

[VoidLivesOn]

What do you mean P2P like the bit torrent things?

[Shelbay]

Hehe, thats very good insight you have there.I guess the only person I'm set out to satisfy on this earth is really just me.Probably the best way to put it.

Did you have any luck on finding KIDS? Thats really just a movie everyone should see.I'm not sure how easy it is to find though.
Just had to post this since you are straight up...I satisfy me and my husband only...I am not mean but I don't worry about keeping up appearances so much anymore. This has been a good chat void....and thanks harvesthetic for the links and not crashing our party so to speak but actually helping with an interest. Now movie time!

[VoidLivesOn]

Awesome.

[Shelbay]

I have it ordered-KIDS. Amazon said it was 1995 it was made..anyway..got it ordered. I think it's going to be one of those that I have to actually watch more than once..? Not sure yet but I want it. Now you have me looking for you on here void lol. That is sounding like a cruel plot for one person to actually want to do that to girls though...I am going to be quiet until I view.:)

[VoidLivesOn]

Oh sorry, just 2 years off.Yeah theres nothing really in the movie to get, except it will just leave you in awe.Like "What did I just watch?".Its amazing how he filmed it and got teen actors to act like that.I think I might go watch mine here in a minute...

[Shelbay]

Oh sorry, just 2 years off.Yeah theres nothing really in the movie to get, except it will just leave you in awe.Like "What did I just watch?".Its amazing how he filmed it and got teen actors to act like that.I think I might go watch mine here in a minute...
haha..when I said I might watch it more than once I have a tendency to view some movies while I am "sober" and then again after I burn a really good one...kind of like questioning myself? But I know I am ready now..I want it for this weekend and I paid expedited shipping so I should have it very soon. For a 17 yr old you are way beyond your years....which is not always a bad thing..you have been refreshing so far..as in when I post with you..even after I sign off...I am wanting to know more....;) Your name always caught my attention though..what void? Thats a unique way of saying you have a void in your life..still carry on? Just a little curious about YOU.;)

[VoidLivesOn]

Actually to add on to my ego, I'm really 16.And I understand what you mean about burning one to that movie, I've seen that movie 5 times and only once sober.
Hehe I wish there was some metephorical analogy comparing my life and user name.But actually its just a punk band back from the 80s that are pretty good, just never were to popular.And I used to be just Void on these message boards but after some misunderstandings I was banned.So I created VoidLivesOn so everyone could have the imput from a loud-mouth,bored teenager.But to compare a void in my life, sure I've had some rough times but everyone has a past, just some are worse the others.Sorry to keep you hanging, I just had the pleasure of getting a root canal.

[Shelbay]

Actually to add on to my ego, I'm really 16.And I understand what you mean about burning one to that movie, I've seen that movie 5 times and only once sober.
Hehe I wish there was some metephorical analogy comparing my life and user name.But actually its just a punk band back from the 80s that are pretty good, just never were to popular.And I used to be just Void on these message boards but after some misunderstandings I was banned.So I created VoidLivesOn so everyone could have the imput from a loud-mouth,bored teenager.But to compare a void in my life, sure I've had some rough times but everyone has a past, just some are worse the others.Sorry to keep you hanging, I just had the pleasure of getting a root canal.
Okay..omg..16?? I thought I was going to be banned because of my viewpoints but...just trying to stick with posters I "know" now..and avoid the rest....yes everyone has a past but at 16 I didn't have a past..all I saw was my future....but times have changed since those wonder years...guess thats why I am so complex and come close to being contradictory...so much I want to do but not enough time now..my mind is willing but my body can't keep up. Sorry about the root canal...but happy you saved the tooth instead of loosing it..and remember..preventive maint. stops root canals lol..sounding like your mother yet? haha I feel your pain though..I had a tooth that had to extracted (wisdom) and my Dentist gave me Mepergan..sheesh!..never again..my husband said I was praying to Mother Theresa & Princess Diana haha..I don't do pills so good...anyway..just wanted to let you know I am anxious for my movie..haha...oh..and I watched 28 days later and Cabin Fever last night...I don't "sleep" much and thats why I have soooomany movies..helps keep me out of trouble 2..hope you feel better tomorrow..being honest here..still having difficulty with you only being 16..I missed out on the times are changing 80's..the middle 80's were the years my "past" started..so your educating me on some things..like the punk rock..I have NEVER even listened to that genre of music....darn phone again....let me post this at least..glad you came back on...did we know each other before?

[VoidLivesOn]

Probbbaabbbllyy not, I don't remember you to much when I was posting before.But yeah...never heard of punk rock? Theres probably a point to that.Punk only originated because they were sick of mainstream music and metal and wanted easy three chord music to move around to, unlike metal where at shows you were standing at attention to 3 minute solo's and punching your friends in the face.Along with that came unity in the scene sticking eachothers neck out for eachother cause back then punk I guess really meant something, you had an attitude and lifestyle to live by so you stuck togeather.Nowadays you even go to an underground punk show your being ridiculed and stared at by people who are suppose to be "down" with you because you don't look as punk rock as them.But there usually the same people who are standing on the side lines because they don't wanna mess up there 3 foot parrot mohawk, and studded jacket that took 2 hours to assemble.Yeah, so I guess its just a died out trend now...but the music still rocks! Sorry if thats one thing you wanna get me started on it music.28 days later? yeah thats another one of my favorite films.

Also I'm in the process of making my own short film now, you might enjoy watching as soon as its done.I wrote a monologue over my social aspect of high school, and i'm going to throw in some film over the rant, kinda like a little documentary.I'll post the rant if your interested in reading it.

[Shelbay]

You know I want to hear it! haha..I am "hooked" now...all I have to do is see the thread Shelbay where you replied and DSL kicks in haha..very interested in your outlook on High School..seriously..and I meant no disrespect when I said I have never listened to punk....the music I listened to was Foghat,Bad Company,ABBA,Classical of course..I have a collection of Rimsky-Korsakow...and the the other 70's music..actually had to sneak listening to rock over at my friends house and school because my parents were Southern Baptist..not allowed in their home..even though I can thank my daddy for my appreciation of piano...Floyd Cramer is my hero on that one..and your not like the 16 yr. olds here...to be producing your own short film??!! Thats like amazing to me..really...okay..your turn..and what are you going to do with your documentary? very interested in your plans on that one..oh yeah..the only 3 concerts I have ever been to were KISS,Journey and ELVIS in 77...Elvis with my mother and the other 2 with my friends...yes I did sneak off haha..but well worth the punishment I got when I came home...anyway I'll shut up and give you a chance to post...

[VoidLivesOn]

Well I mean i've picked up a ton of shit to keep myself interested..ok brb I have to make a tuna sandwhich..but nothing has ever appealed to me more then writing,filming,and editing.PRobably cause its the only thing I feel like i'm half decent at.Writing is kick ass all in itself, just because you have the chance to perfect your thoughts in a time span up to you, un-like talking and debating it has to all come out at once.Especially writing for yourself, cause you know I'm not trying to impress anyone when I'm writing..? ok here it is.It might sound a little childish, I dunno, your alot older then the audiance I was trying to make it appeal to, hehe.

Ohhh, High School. A place where a variety of teenagers can get togeather and learn in harmony regardless of there race, gender, or dress preference. High school also is the very place where students have the oppurtunity to expand there horizons with the nectar of education.

Hah...you'd have to be a moron to believe that. I think what I really meant was, High School is a place where social status reigns supreme, and if your not up to date with there shitty, unapt noise they actually call music....well then your just a waste of life.

You know what they say,"High School is suppose to be the best years of your lives!" Well alot of times in life arrogance often breeds hate, so believe me when I say this: Arrogance is practically the cornerstone of high school.So, Who's complaining? No one.Sort of.

Why don't we move on to a necessity of high school! Love.Actually I'm using the word quite loosley here.When I walk through the halls of my school I smell two things, and besides the smell of horrendous cafeteria food, as well as the pre-existing stench of overly priced fragrances, that only leaves two other things..The smell of loovvee, and the smell of prepubescent high school relationships which are only products of extreme boredom.Not to mention there 2 week life spans.I mean where does someone get off prolonging there love to an individual who has just as much time to live as they do? Pretty infantile move if you ask me.Good thing no one did though.Its ok I'm sure the relationships are ripe with love and not adolescent disputes over who got wasted and kissed who.I'm sorry but if thats all I had to argue about with someone I was suppose to love I think I would kill myself.
In high school theres plenty of people with there own problems, but how does one conduct oneself to such harsh realities of the real world? I think everyone knows the answer to that.They wait until the next day, so when they finally see there friends they can reminisce on the past night's events.But loud enough so everyone in the whole entire school can hear how hard they actually have it.Sorry I think I forgot to care.Oh, did you have to work late? Did you have to cook your own dinner? Thats funny because I didn't.In fact I got to drive to school in a car I don't even pay insurance or gas for, not to mention the clothes on my back my parents went out of the way to pay an excessive amount of money for.Wait...that sounds alot like the things my peers possess but still find time to bitch about other, petty, CRAP.
So all in all everyone of us can agree high school is one hell of a place, and no matter how much I despise it I'm still advised to go, just like some of you.As a result you have just received my perception of high school.Eat it, its good.

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also, you know were almost 2 different people, I don't see what you can find so interesting.I wasn't raised at all religous, I'm pretty much agnostic as it gets, do non-religous people bother you?

[Shelbay]

Your being non-religous is you..I give respect to anyones beliefs as long as they don't disrespect mine....being around people that are "just like you" can be mudane and boring..I like a challenge..I also like having my brain cells required to actually work for a change instead of being told all the time yes..or people that agree with everything I say..but I don't like disrespect..thats my hangup..respect...I don't really give a darn who you are,where your from,what you do....for real but if you show respect and signs of intelligence..yes it does keep my interest in that person...and as for my age..as you know I am much older than you but I have had to learn to deal with men your age group..oh yes..to many watching Mrs.Robinson I think..anyway..I was in the store one day..and I just "felt" someone watching me..I was absorbed in the fruit aisle....but felt it..I look up from the oranges and there is a really young couple standing by the bread aisle and I happened to look the guy right in his eyes when he was bending down acting like he was getting bread from the lower shelf but he was actually looking up my skirt!! Yes he did! And his g/f was glaring at ME with her arms over her chest and I couldn't do anything but just walk out..so I get caught off guard sometimes so watch your mouth about age haha...have you ever taken the national IQ test? Do you know what your supposed IQ is? Its starting to look more and more like you should have skipped high school and headed for Coll...or wherever you could find an outlet for the way your brain operates..I don't agree with high school..I agree with home schooling....some things DO have to be taught right?..but I don't agree that everyones brain thinks alike and that we should be forced to accept teachings that are taught to everyone as a whole...but I'm one of those people that believe girls and boys shouldn't be taught together either...as you have pointed out..2 many mindless distractions....we are total opposites but you do fascinate me by sharing your beliefs so being non-religous is not a problem with me..the only problem we would have on that one is if we started trying to force each others beliefs on each other but like I said I don't tune people out because we are different..of course I like being able to discuss similar interests but that is interests not beliefs..and if we were the same..what would we keep talking about?...like me and my g/f's here...when are we going shopping..what am I going to serve for dinner tonight..what perfume...so on and so on...useless chatter but shared interests...and fyi they think I am one person and to a point I am but I have to live a lie sometimes because I smoke MJ..so I came here originally to this board to find people that have shared interests and accept the "real" me...I can be an activist to a point also...just haven't really showed that yet haha I got your point on hs and I agree with you..to me it is outdated..but where do the basic teaching skills we need come from if not for teachers? I think life is a teacher also...not what someone is telling me about life...I learn through experience and to sort out all the good and bad..make my mistakes and keep on keeping on and try not to make them again..I am starting to see where you are really coming from..wow....just so you know..in YOUR case HS is going to be very boring for you..very....you need more..anyway I do see where we are headed and try to figure this one out..imagine doing what I did..surviving..and then I go to trial..and I listen to the prosecutor telling the jury what kind of person I am...what a joke that was..and 2 different psychs examine me (lol) and come away with different "results" from the same exam?! so your view at hs is my view in a way on the "judicial system"...when I got on down the road so to speak I was forced to attend group sessions and then 1 on 1 sessions with psychs..look up antisocial personalities...wanted to classify me in that group when all I had done was save myself!! And have no problem nor have had any being "social" since I stopped the abuse I was getting in my own home from my own husband..what a joke..sorry I would have finished this sooner but my husband is coming home this weekend and we are excited lol...he keeps calling to let me know where he is...I am excited about that..I am a loner for the most part but I miss him and will be sooo happy when he gets here....hope you don't take offense but thats why you get bored so easily...your alot like me whether you know it or not haha....that brain without meds is constantly going...and we don't conform for the most part..haha...who would have thought....wow..still can;t get over your being 16 and you have already figured most things out about yourself and others...I will be back..got to do some things but darn I wish I could meet you haha...yes you are interesting to me...a married 40 something Southern Woman...you have a large brain is all and you are a non-conformist..thats why hs disgusts you right? Be thankful you won't have alot of trial and tribulations just to figure out the truth of what you want..who you want..and how you want it...And keep thinking for yourself..you just figured out at a young age you don't need everyone to do that for you...but we have to follow the rules of society..I get you;)

[VoidLivesOn]

Haha I think its cool how we have our own little conversation going here, while theres still another world on the outside of this thread.People can just easily look in like there looking in through a window.

Nah about the Iq test, I can't really say I've ever taken one.I'm not to much of a knowledgable person.I really don't do to well on my grades, and the only time I'm ever doing good on something is when it really interests me...I guess just like everyone else.No one really enjoys doing something they don't like.And that thing for me, is high school.But I really don't know what to say to the rest of your post, it was pretty much well thought and full hearted.
But as for the religion topic.Yeah I really don't ever push my religous beliefs on anyone, and I just for the most part expect the same.I'm still young I don't think I've experienced enough yet to be worried about what will happen to me after death.So for now I think i'll try and live my life the way Aaron does..if that makes any sense? How long were you in prison?

[VoidLivesOn]

Also when you were telling me about when the judge was describing you in front of the jury, and it was like you didn't have a say, it kinds automatically made me think of this song.I'll post the lyrics, even if you don't like the music (hehe, punk rock) i'm sure you'll find the song touching.I think its a peice of art.

[VoidLivesOn]

Also when you were telling me about when the judge was describing you in front of the jury, and it was like you didn't have a say, it kinds automatically made me think of this song.I'll post the lyrics, even if you don't like the music (hehe, punk rock) i'm sure you'll find the song touching.I think its a peice of art.


Institutionalized:

Sometimes i try to do things and it just doesnt work out the way i want it to. and i get real frustrated. and like i try hard to do it and i take my time and it just doesnt work out the way i want it to. its like i concentrate on it real hard and it just doesnt work out and everything i do and everything i try it never turns out. its like, i need time to figure these things out but theres always someone there going "hey mike, you know, weve been noticing youve been having alot of problems lately, you know? you should maybe get away and like maybe you should talk about it, youll feel alot better" i go "no its ok, you know, ill figure it out...just leave me alone, ill figure it out, you know? ill just work it out myself" they go "well, you know, if you want to talk about it, ill be here, you know, and youll probably feel alot better if you talk about it, so why dont you talk about it?" i go "no! i dont want to! im ok! ill figure it out myself!" but they just keep bugging me...they just keep bugging me and it builds up inside!

So you're gonna be institutionalized
You'll come out brainwashed with bloodshot eyes
You won't have any say
They'll brainwash you until you see their way.

I'm not crazy - institutionalized
You're the one who's crazy - institutionalized
You're driving me crazy - institutionalized

They stuck me in an institution
Said it was the only solution
to give me the needed professional help
to protect me from the enemy...myself

I was in my room and i was just like staring at the wall thinking about everything but then again i was thinking about nothing. and then my mom came in and i didnt even know she was there she called my name and i didnt hear her and then she started screaming "MIKE MIKE!!". i go "what? whats the matter?". she goes "whats the matter with YOU?" i go "theres nothing wrong mom" she goes "dont tell me that! your on drugs!" i go "no mom im not on drugs, im ok, im just thinking, you know? why dont you get me a pepsi?" she goes "no! your on drugs!" i go "mom! im ok, im just thinking!" she goes "no! your not thinking, your on drugs! normal people dont act that way!" i go "mom, just get me a pepsi, please? all i want is a pepsi" and she wouldnt give it to me! all i wanted was a pepsi...just one pepsi and she wouldnt give it to me...just a pepsi!

They give you a white shirt with long sleeves
Tied around you're back, you're treated like thieves
Drug you up because they're lazy
It's too much work to help a crazy

I'm not crazy - institutionalized
You're the one who's crazy - institutionalized
You're driving me crazy - institutionalized

They stuck me in an institution
Said it was the only solution
To give me the needed professional help
To protect me from the enemy...myself

I was sitting in my room and my mom and my dad came in and they pulled up a chair and they sat down, they go "Mike, we need to talk to you" And I go "Okay what's the matter?" They go "Me and your mom have been noticing lately that you've been having a lot of problems, and you've been going off for no reason and we're afraid you're gonna hurt somebody, and we're afraid you're gonna hurt yourself. So we decided that it would be in your best interest if we put you somewhere where you could get the help that you need." And I go "Wait! what are you talking about?? WE decided MY best interest?! How do you know what MY best interest is?? How can you say what MY best interest is? What are you trying to say...I'm crazy?! When I went to your schools, I went to your churches, I went to your institutional learning facilities?! So how can you say I'm crazy?!"

They say they're gonna fix my brain
Alleviate my suffering and my pain
But by the time they fix my head
Mentally I'll be dead

I'm not crazy - institutionalized
You're the one who's crazy - institutionalized
You're driving me crazy - institutionalized

They stuck me in an institution
Said it was the only solution
To give me the needed professional help
To protect me from the enemy...myself

It doesn't matter if i get hit by a car anyway...

[Shelbay]

..
Also when you were telling me about when the judge was describing you in front of the jury, and it was like you didn't have a say, it kinds automatically made me think of this song.I'll post the lyrics, even if you don't like the music (hehe, punk rock) i'm sure you'll find the song touching.I think its a peice of art.
Hey...thanks for the song link...my first time listening to that genre of music..another eye opener for me..you and Babyface are getting me in touch with the good part of your generation..really. That song made me sad...:( I never really looked at teenagers going through "things" like that...that is sad....it makes it painfully obvious that if someone is not perfect then just give you some "crazy" drugs to "help" you of course because society doesn't have the time to address real needs...and I really liked the part where it says basically I did everything I was supposed to and you still institutionalize people in "their" best interest...thats what I really detest...people making choices for others like they know you better than you know yourself. Thanks again....that is how I felt listening to everyone discuss me like I wasn't even in the room..but it's all good now...I don't think about it so much when I am sober because I just get sad..so when I get the chance to burn me a good one I will talk if you really have an interest or questions..I am going to be gone for a few days but I hope your still on the board when I get back online. Oh yeah..haha...I saw your pics...very cute :thumbsup: ..and I like the ones showing where you are taking care of your pearly whites:thumbsup: I caught that haha..hope your mouth is better today..I never had a root canal but hear they can be VERY painful..just so you understand also..I do have a daughter but missed alot on her growing up...so thanks for showing me some of what I missed out on...she was a mystery to me when I made it back home and even though its many years since....anyway..I don't want to get sad this morning so I am shutting up..thank you for sharing with me and for listening to ME and not everyone else that does not even know me...thank you....OH! And put a helmet on when your on that skateboard..protect that brain!!!! You might be the one to help write legislature for legalizing MJ....ya"ll are OUR future and it wouldn't be a good thing for paramedics to be scooping that brilliant brain you got going for you off of the pavement..okay..NOW I sound like your mom huh haha..talk with you later I hope..

[VoidLivesOn]

Haha okay awesome.

Theres plenty I could say to you involving thanks for talking, and things of that nature.But I think you got the jist of it.But yes I should be around, have fun on your couple of days off.

[VoidLivesOn]

Oh yeah and that song, that was probably inspired buy a generation in the early 80's.Thats when it was made, making the band probably in there late 30's as of now.But I think its still got its touch.

[VoidLivesOn]

How did you like KIDS?

[bedake]

are you explaining punk to shelbay? i didnt bother to read all that... there was alot haha

[Shelbay]

Hey void...KIDS is not here yet....supposed to be re-shipping but I have been gone and was sad it was not in the box when I got back home! Mail is screwed up sometimes!