Flowering (3/4weeks) no buds/yellow leaves

[WeedyBoyWonder]

Ok, i have had my plant on flowering for around 4 weeks now (veg under 125W maigrow CFL, and flowering under 400W HPS), i cannot see anything starting to form yet, apart from the female pistals becomming bigger and bolder.

also, my plant has no fan leaves left, they all went yellow and i pulled them off, lots of leaves are turning yellow on other parts of the plant, and if i pull these lot off, im worried by another week, ill have no leaves left. any comments.... please. :thumbsup: :stoned: :confused:

[turtle420]

Any pics possible?

[J DOG 6000]

Gotta be a long flowering sativa.The yellowing leaves are probably just the plant making room for light and buds.

[WeedyBoyWonder]

yea but what happens when they all just go yellow, it will have no leaves!

[BukDatAss]

try to add some ferts with a little N.. not to much tho but you might need more than what you giving it

[litespeed]

soil or hyd ???:)

[WeedyBoyWonder]

some pics

[WeedyBoyWonder]

soil..... and no ferts have been gien threw the whole growth, we dont want to add any now.

whats the deal woth no buds? shoudl u be able to see any after a month?

[Nochowderforyou]

soil..... and no ferts have been gien threw the whole growth, we dont want to add any now.

whats the deal woth no buds? shoudl u be able to see any after a month?

It looks to me that the plant has been stretching, making room for the incoming buds. It took 3 weeks once before I saw any hairs on a Black Haze grow I did. It was about 4 weeks in before it actually started forming buds.

So don't fret. The buds will come. Your plant, the strain, may be a long flowering plant, but the buds will come :thumbsup: Plus, you said you haven't given this plant any food yet. That is another reason why things are moving slow. I'm suprised its made it this long

As for the yellowing, it will continue if you don't give the plant nutes. It will yellow, dry up, and the leaves will die until they finally reach the buds.

Give your plant some food man. It's starving for it! It NEEDS it for nice bud growth, that's why hardly any buds. If you want your plant to give out its full potential you must feed it.

Get some 15-30-15 and start it on a low dose. Then gradually increase the feedings each week. The yellowing will stop then, your plant will live, and the buds should be a nice outcome.

If you're concerned about the chem. ferts, use organics next time, but for now, your plant is starving to death and needs some food.

Good luck.

[WeedyBoyWonder]

thanks mate, ill try and get it some food. :(

[WeedyBoyWonder]

i have started giving it baby bio in with each time i water it (everyday) i hope it helps ^_^

[smoknjoe]

hmm... how much water do you give them?

I give mine a gallon every 5-6 days.

[britewire]

try setting it on 12-12..


LMAO!

[WeedyBoyWonder]

try setting it on 12-12..


LMAO!


of course it is on 12-12 you ignorant twat, go back to the corner and smoke your crack pipe, and clean off your needles, it sounds like you need them again.

and i give it a pint of tap water everyday, with a few drops of babybio.

[justaseed]

of course it is on 12-12 you ignorant twat, go back to the corner and smoke your crack pipe, and clean off your needles, it sounds like you need them again.

hey asshole! why would you insult someone who is trying to help you. everyone who posts on this forum is at a different level of experience so some people might not know about 12/12. it's jerks like you that give forums a bad name! you are the one who didn't feed your plant or know how much water to give and noone insulted you!

in the future if someone is trying to help you but you already know what they are saying then just thank them and leave it at that. it's pretty disrespectful to start calling names and insulting someone who was just trying to help! why don't you take those precious "crack pipes and needles" of yours and stick em' up yer ass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[justaseed]

try setting it on 12-12..


LMAO!
please don't let that asshole discourage you from posting on the forum again. most people here are very respectfull and understanding not to mention knowledgable and helpful. there are always a few jerks no matter where you are, just ignore them. you can get so much knowledge and experience from these forums, it's worth it even if you have to deal with the occasional asshole.

[WeedyBoyWonder]

have you got a splitt personality? that would explain them 2 posts...

[SmurfyBH]

And I thought my plant was groovy, try N.

[Poohcat21]

I was kind of shocked at the outburst myself, can't we all just get along...

[justaseed]

i just don't like it when people are rude and insulting when someone is just trying to help. the 1st post is directed to the asshole and the second was directed to the poor guy who you called a "twat and crackhead" . it would be a shame if the guy never posted again for fear of being made fun of. i only have 1 personality if you had half a brain you would have realized that 1 post was about weed boy wonder and the other britewire. i can get along with everyone just fine.

[justaseed]

ok guys, my wife just informed me that LMAO means laughing my ass off. so i guess britewire could have had a sarcastic edge to his post. i saw it was only his 3rd post and after seeing him be called names and the like was afraid he would be discouraged from posting again(or even from growing all together). what we want to do is incourage as many people on this wonderful planet of ours to start growing there own buds. so when i see something that could possibly discourage someone it upsets me. everyone deserves to have good bud and not pay a fortune for it! so, i'm sorry for coming on so strong before. we all still have to make sure we are tolerant of others and not post anything that could "scare away" the newbies. i didn't know shit about growing when i 1st started and asked alot of questions that we all consider to be common sense now. no hard feelings?

[Poohcat21]

I didn't mean that you had an outburst, I meant Weed boy wonder's outburst, but then again I didn't know what LMAO meant either. I was just trying to make light of everything. I'm a newbie so I appreciate the fact that you stand up for us and have never talked down to me. I saw once that someone posted something like if you can't grow you shouldn't smoke, well someone should have told me that in 10th grade...IT'S TOO LATE NOW !! haha but i'm learning...and I have a green thumb so...

[justaseed]

i consider myself a newbie as well. it's just when you see someone with only a couple posts you should try to do everything possible to answer there questions respectfully and make them feel welcome. when i say "you" i mean everyone!

[WeedyBoyWonder]

yea, i took his coment as being a scarcastic reject. i dont like being talked to like a fool, so i got alittle touchy. but thats me, i wont take scarcastic bullshit of anyone from the internet, without giving it back.

now if anyone could help, that would be awsome >_<

[justaseed]

ok, no harm done! as i said, i just would hate to see a newbie discouraged from posting but i didn't know what LMAO MEANT. i thought it was a sig. again, sorry i came on so strong.

what was the question again? lol

[WeedyBoyWonder]

ermmm, i dont know now ^_^ lol

ermm well, all the pistals have started comming out propper now, its been on flowering for about a month, and no bud is here yet, but you can see its in the early stages of comming. How long do you think ROUGHLY untill the bud is ready to be havested? (How long does it take for bud to form?)

[justaseed]

all strains are different. do you have any light leaks? that would slow flowering. a month with no buds is rather unusual, unless it's a really long flowering sativa. this is my gypsy's kiss at day 28 of 12/12. it should finish in 65 days or so. also at 1 month the leaves should not be yellowing yet, especially if it is a sativa that takes a long time to finish. but you did say you had never fed it right? i'm suprised it looks as good as it does if that's the case. mj is like us, it needs food to survive and flourish. just start slow and work your way up. with no ferts the flowering would be extemely delayed as the plants have no nutrients to produce buds. my seed plants usually start to show defficiencies(spelling) at the 3rd week of vegg if i don't give anything but r/o water until that point. that is why it suprised me to hear a plant of that size had never been fed.

some sativas can take as much as 120days to finish!!!!!

[Nochowderforyou]

i have started giving it baby bio in with each time i water it (everyday) i hope it helps ^_^

No more bickering you hens! :D

Anyways, the 3 #'s would help me give the right answer. There should be 3 #'s on the container, what are they?

Again, if you're on 12/12, you need something that is high in P (N-P-K). If you have that, you're good! :thumbsup:

Good luck to you.

[justaseed]

it should pick up the pace now with the ferts. i was just brainstorming some ideas of why it could be taking so long and also gave a couple pics to compare what 28 days looks like. the gk is a hybrid though, although this plant is a sativa pheno.

[scobbie]

weed boy wonder as you are in uk go to any garden or discount center and look for phostrogen its in a orange box it has a NPK of 14 .10.27 this will do the job and it only costs £1.87 and baby bio is high in nitrogen not what you need during flowering.
the NPK stands for N=Nitrogen you need high in this during veg the P stands for phostphorous this gives strong roots and the K stands for potassium this is what you need high in for flowering hope this helps and keep asking and you will learn.
justaseed im starting a scrog so any help you can give me would be great , this is the firt time i have used this method and im a bit unsure about trimming under the screen, see ask and you will learn lol later lads.
and nowch the npk on baby bio is 10.6 4.10 an 6. something ,i use it as a superthrive does the job well added to every water as instructed , very good used along with peters in veg .

[WeedyBoyWonder]

weed boy wonder as you are in uk go to any garden or discount center and look for phostrogen its in a orange box it has a NPK of 14 .10.27 this will do the job and it only costs £1.87 and baby bio is high in nitrogen not what you need during flowering.
the NPK stands for N=Nitrogen you need high in this during veg the P stands for phostphorous this gives strong roots and the K stands for potassium this is what you need high in for flowering hope this helps and keep asking and you will learn.
justaseed im starting a scrog so any help you can give me would be great , this is the firt time i have used this method and im a bit unsure about trimming under the screen, see ask and you will learn lol later lads.
and nowch the npk on baby bio is 10.6 4.10 an 6. something ,i use it as a superthrive does the job well added to every water as instructed , very good used along with peters in veg .


thank dude, good advice, i will post once i found the stuff and keep updated.
could any guess a potential yeild from looking at the size of the plant? vegged under a 150W maxigrow cfl, budding under 400W hps

[WeedyBoyWonder]

could anyone guess a potential yeild from looking at the size of the plant? vegged under a 150W maxigrow cfl, budding under 400W hps

^^^

[Tom Green Thumb]

I can't really tell how large the plant or pot is from the picture, but I would say it is safe to say 1 oz. You could produce more but it does not look like the plants stems will support much more. Hope this helps!

TGT

[WeedyBoyWonder]

awsome an oz would be great.

also, im not getting any bud at all on the main stem (cola?) why is this? im only getting on the brances that come off it.

[WeedyBoyWonder]

awsome an oz would be great.

also, im not getting any bud at all on the main stem (cola?) why is this? im only getting on the brances that come off it.

^^^

also, yellowing leafs is still happening, i only have about 2/3 sets of leaves before there is no more on some parts..... what should i do? i could be left with just stalk soon O_O :(

[WeedyBoyWonder]

^^^

also, yellowing leafs is still happening, i only have about 2/3 sets of leaves before there is no more on some parts..... what should i do? i could be left with just stalk soon O_O :(

^^^

[WeedyBoyWonder]

also, yellowing leafs is still happening, i only have about 2/3 sets of leaves before there is no more on some parts..... what should i do? i could be left with just stalk soon O_O :(


^^^

[Jdog7000]

It's normal...same as the first time you were told that.Leaves will yellow as the plant uses the nutes and then it dies. to make room for light and buds.Later into flowering it happens more and more with some strains.As long as the leaves at the top of each branch and cola are still there...like 2-4 top leaves you'll be fine.Looks like Thai or some other kind of late frlowering sativa.

[britewire]

I almost know for sure you got a light leak in your room... when you have a 12-12 cycle you have to have a full dark in the dark period

[WeedyBoyWonder]

why? what happens if there is light leakage?

[turtle420]

why? what happens if there is light leakage?
[drum music]
You've got Hermies!!!

[orangeman]

WeedBoyWonder...It's obvious you went on with this grow without the proper knowledge. No disrespect, I see how you can get "touchy" but this is not offence but I know more about growing weed than you do and I havent even grown yet. My point is I would suggest you getting something...I dont know if I'm allowed to say it on here but I'll take my chances because this is sorta..sad. I recommend you getting Bearshare and download "The Cannabis Grow Bible" once you get it open it in Adobe Acrobat go start by going to view and go exactly to page "140", thats where the real info starts to come in. Read it over and over until you get it because I wouldnt like for some one like you to grow a plant half way, I want us all to get the most out of our plant as we can :D.

[WeedyBoyWonder]

thanks both, i will do.

and will i deffinatly have hermies? also, if i do, would this matter. doesnt that mean it will have just have seeds....?

[britewire]

why? what happens if there is light leakage?


If you have light leaking in, in the darkperiod of your 12-12 cycle they won´t start blossoming.

[orangeman]

thanks both, i will do.

and will i deffinatly have hermies? also, if i do, would this matter. doesnt that mean it will have just have seeds....?

Well I was never sure of hermines because I was pretty confident my first grow wouldnt produce hermie plants but I believe it you have a hermie plant it will self-polinate it self and cause your buds to have seeds in 'em.

[WeedyBoyWonder]

o, lol i dont care if my bud has seeds in it >_< the quality of english bud isnt realy that high, so im sure i will manage with seeds. i will also try to block out the light leakage.

[Tom Green Thumb]

A good thing to do to help with yellowing leaves next time around is feed it veg fertilizer 2 weeks into bud, and then switch to the bud ferts for the remainder of the grow. This way the plant has enough nitrogen to accomadate the initial stretch that occures when triggered. Another thing that I found helps PH is to mix 2 table spoons of Dolomite Lime in with the soil. This acts as a PH buffer and will almost eliminate PH problems. This will allow your plants to utilize all of the nutrients you give it. And as said above, do lot's of reading. The more you know the better your plants will produce. Good luck!

TGT

[WeedyBoyWonder]

thanks. all help is much appreacheated. :D

[britewire]

Remember this.. only 1 in 1000 plants are hermie. A lot of the hermies are cause of stress.

[britewire]

No harm in a little sarcasm :smokin:


*lights up crackpipe ;) *

[LIP]

Dont pull the leaves off! Let them die off if their going to. THey're getting all the energy to form buds. Leave them well alone!

It must be a long flowering sativa.

[The Grim Reefer]

why? what happens if there is light leakage?

The reason you don't want any light leakage, is because the hormones in the plant that cause it to flower are doing their work during the 12 hour off period.

Whenever the plant gets any light, these hormones stop reacting.

<3

[britewire]

Dont pull the leaves off! Let them die off if their going to. THey're getting all the energy to form buds. Leave them well alone!

It must be a long flowering sativa.

Even long flowering sativa's have signs of flowering in 2 weeks time. I'm guessing a low night temp (slows down flowering) or light leaking in.