The Brains *official* LoG

[TheBrains]

Hey guy's I have posted a couple random post about my project. Basically ive spent close to nothing on this and the setup actually seems to be looking good. my grow area is in a "basement" and about 3x3x8 in dimensions. Below is a personal text document ive started.. This is a 1st time project soo anything , anything at all that u think will help me benifit feel free to post opinions :D

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Duel 24inch Flouro cool-white tubes with reflector.
Soil, Shultz Professional plus.
3x3x8 grow area.
Fan for circulation.
space heater for temputure purposes.
Tap Water.
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[Sunday, Febuary 12th]

- 3 successfull germinated seeds have been planted.
- type of seed unknown. (from some really good)
- Lights will run 24 hours
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[Sunday, Febuary 13th]

- The plant's havent broke soil yet (11:10 am.)
- Soil appears to have enough water.
- Light's will remain on.
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IF im not mistaken my flouro lights will work from start to finish??
People have told me to buy a 400w HPS for my "flowering" stages, If I use flouro from start to finish will this kill my yield ALOT?

[UMrocksmysocks]

well at least ya got the ball rolling:)

id give it a day or so before those break thru, REMEMBER NOT TO OVERWATER DURING SEEDLING STAGE.. i over watered with my first set and lost one cuz the roots couldnt get thru the soaked soil.. :(

floros will work for the whole grow, but i strongly recommend getting at least a 250w HPS for flowering,, or if you have the money, go with a 400w for you 3 (right?) plants. it will double your yeild AT LEAST if things go well:)

[TheBrains]

cool ill keep the flouro then and in a few week or so ill grab a 250w hps (ace hardware or walmart have them?) or I should I get the HPS asap?

also would I want to run both lights at the same time?

thanks the brains :rasta:

[UMrocksmysocks]

you need to go to a grow shop to find an hps bulb and ballast, dont forget you need one of those too! :p

these two websites sell hps

www.bghydro.com
www.1000bulbs.com

you could also look on ebay for a used system for cheap, if money is an issue

as for ordering asap... if youve got the cash, id get a 400w MH system right away for vegging... the hps can wait until you flower

[UMrocksmysocks]

http://home.listings.ebay.com/Gardening-Plants_Seed-Starting-Grow-Lights_W0QQfromZR4QQsacatZ43554QQsocmdZListingItem List

that page has some good deals on switchables and completes :)

[Josh55]

Make sure not to just go out and buy a HPS bulb, you need the ballest too...HPS bulbs dont run in normal fixtures...I started watering my plant like a little a day just keeping the soil damp...now im in flowering and i water once every 3-4 days, giveing the plants nutes every other water...Looking good for my 1st plant!!!!! Well GL bro

[Josh55]

Dont forget to buy a timer at homedepot or lowes, you will need it for flowering to shut the lights on and off...They are cheap, u could get one for like 2-3$. Try to get a PH tester if you have the funds also...again B, GL
:rasta: :rasta: :rasta: :rasta: :rasta: :rasta: :rasta: :rasta: :rasta:

[TheBrains]

[Sunday, Febuary 13th] 5:55 p.m

one seedling has broken thrue looks thick ,

"im gettin freind digi camera tomorrow"

[BukDatAss]

cool heres another post but you should remember if you plan on having more grow just go out and get the 400whps you wont regret it.... you will prob end up buying 1 in the near future anyway

http://www.insidesun.com/index.php/action/category/start/0/id/2/subid/1/

[TheBrains]

soon I will invest :) but I got a quick question my seedlings are in 32oz styrofoam cups "from gas station lol" how big should I let them get before I transplant, and how much dirt does x1 plant usually need to let the roots grow successfully??

I figured ide just slice the styrofoam down the side for a transplant, should I water well before the transfer??


thanks for the input peoples :)

The Brains :rasta:

[smoknjoe]

If you transplant right after a watering its very messy, and if you do it when the soils dry it falls apart. I suggest transplanting halfway between waterings, and the root mass will stay in tact nicely, making it much easier on you and the plant.

You got the right idea about cutting down the side of the cup. Cut off the bottom off too and the cup will slip right out. I believe I read somewhere that syrofoam makes a poor growing container... I forget why... no big deal, but just for next time.

[TheBrains]

so exactly how long should I let them grow in the 32oz cup tho? couple weeks?

btw, its day 3 of planting

plant1: no stretching at all very sturdy, approx 5-6cm tall
plant2: pedals arent opened all the way about thier. (1 day behind on planting)
plant3: pedals arent opened all the way about thier.

"is plant 1 just xtra healthy?" they all have same amount of light/water

[UMrocksmysocks]

if i were you i'd carefully cut little holes at the bottom of those cups for drainage if you havent already. sometimes the roots will poke thru those holes, if that happens then you'll know when to transplant.. but its really not a huge issue. id transplant in a week regardless. as for transplanting... DONT WATER IT, let the soil dry out, then tip in upsidedown with your fingers supporting. in my experience that technique works, the soil might break apart a little bit but its fine, just get it in the new pot asap

[BkSkillz]

i dissagree totally with rock my socks dont transplantwhen dirt is dry always water then transplant in order to keep the rootball in tack and also if there o nly 3 days since planting dont plan on transplanting anytime soon at least for another 3 weeks the rule of thumb is 1 gallon of soil for ever foot of growth above soil do the math and you'll know when to transplant another good way of knowing is how he said let the roots come out of the drainiage wholses to knoiw shes ready for more root room why not to transplant untill the 3rd/4th week simple the stress of the transplant if done incorrectly will stunt growth which sucks ass...one last thing superthrive is great to reduce stress from transplanting or anything else ..p.s. theres a great transplanting guide int he faq section here go get em...

[TheBrains]

cool thanx for the input, also with my lighting "two 48" floro with hood" is it wise to run them 24/7 ? what lighting times do u recomend? So far since planting lights have been on for 3 days,, *Buying a timer 2night*

[Josh55]

I recommend keeping them on 24/7 through veg stage, and when your ready to flower go straight to 12/12....Im on my 1st grow but it worked perfect for me..

[TheBrains]

gotcha, and exactly how will I no when its time to "flower"

josh msg me in ae ;p

[Josh55]

Flower it after month or so, depending how tall it is...Just dont let it get like 3 feet tall like i did, lol

[TheBrains]

aight, just got back from wal-mart picked up some 6-12-0 bone meal and a timer for when I start flowering....

Thanks,,, The Brains

[BukDatAss]

hey let me know how much the timer runs you at walmart.... I still dont have 1 LOL

[smoknjoe]

i found a good, digital one at home depot for $7 or $8. Make sure you get the high power one (the one with 3 prongs), I made that mistake once...couldn't plug in my ballast.

[TheBrains]

well I made the mistake of getting (2 prong one) but I have a 3 prong adapter so im not worried..

I paid like 5 bucks for it...

btw day 4!!!!

plant1: approx 1inch + (no stretching)
plant2: approx 1inch (no stretching)
plant3: approx 1inch (no stretching)

:) :) :)

[TheBrains]

son of a bitch, I just caught 2 ants !!!! whats best to get rid of these dumbasses

[SittinStoney420]

Pic?

[BukDatAss]

Check out turtles Thread its called "What strain would you pick" its in the Closet Cabinet section, just go back like1 or 2 pages

[TheBrains]

hey stoney, If I can come across a buddys digi camera ill be more then happy to get a pic, my uncle has one but I sorta wanna keep it on a hush hush with the family......

[TheBrains]

--- HERE IS INFORMTION IVE GATHERED OVER THE 5 DAYS ---



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Duel 24inch Flouro white tubes with reflector.
Soil, Shultz Professional plus.
Fan for circulation.
space heater for temputure purposes.
Tap Water.
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[Sunday, Febuary 12th]

- 3 successfull germinated seeds have been planted.
- type of seed unknown. (from some really good)
- Lights will run 24 hours

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[Monday, Febuary 13th]

- The plant's havent broke soil yet
- Soil appears to have enough water.
- Light's will remain on.

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[Tuesday, Febuary 14th]

- All 3 plants have broken soil, 2 of the 3 arent standing up totally, the 3rd is approx 5cm
- soil has enough water
- lights will remain on.

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[Wednesday, Febuary 15th]

- All 3 plants standing approx 1inch, no stretching.
- Sprinkled some 6-12-0 bone meal on tops of soil (not alot)
- Sprayed with slight mist of water and around base of plants.
- lights will remain on

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[Wednesday, Febuary 16th]

- Nothing majior in changes, although ants have been spotted.
- Added some distilled water then sprayed with water..
- lights will remain on.

[Josh55]

Yo man, DONT GIVE THEM NUTES OR FOOD YET................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! they dont need it..

[TheBrains]

hmm okay

[The Grim Reefer]

Yes, keep in mind not only does the seed containt nutrients, but the soil does as well.

Think of it as a mother's womb :p

[The Grim Reefer]

Yes, keep in mind not only does the seed containt nutrients, but the soil does as well.

Think of it as a mother's womb :p

Oh, also - I would stop feeding them at least 2 weeks until harvest.
I haven't smoked marijuana filled with nutrients, but I hear it's not a pleasurable experience. :o

Happy Growing! :thumbsup:

[TheBrains]

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Duel 24inch Floro white tubes with reflector.
Soil, Shultz Professional plus.
Fan for circulation.
space heater for temputure purposes.
Distilled Water.
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[Sunday, Febuary 12th]

- 3 successfull germinated seeds have been planted.
- type of seed unknown. (from some really good)
- Lights will run 24 hours

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[Monday, Febuary 13th]

- The plant's havent broke soil yet
- Soil appears to have enough water.
- Light's will remain on.

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[Tuesday, Febuary 14th]

- All 3 plants have broken soil, 2 of the 3 arent standing up totally, the 3rd is approx 5cm
- soil has enough water
- lights will remain on.

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[Wednesday, Febuary 15th]

- All 3 plants standing approx 1inch, no stretching.
- Sprayed with slight mist of water and around base of plants.
- lights will remain on

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[Thursday, Febuary 16th]

- Nothing majior in changes, although ants have been spotted.
- Added some distilled water then sprayed with water..
- lights will remain on.


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[Friday, Febuary 17th]

- For as weak as a lighting system I have, my babys are progressing wonderfully!!!
- No need for water.....
- Light will remain on..

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[Saterday, Febuary 18th]

- mmm day 7 and growing 2nd set of leafs (not including the 2 pedals)
- added some soil for xtra "support" although they are standing strong... :)
- soil was dry, gave it a slight watering.. (being sure not to drown them)
- Lights will remain on...

[TheBrains]

well 4 days later i just got out of county jail on drinkin charges .... blah 18 month probation..... FUCK ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!

neways holy shit my babys look nice

[BukDatAss]

damn that sucks.. but atleast the plants look good

[AcousticStoner420]

Oh damn just out of County... Party foul my friend... Grow some pot it will make you feel better :D

Stay UP :rasta:
!AC420
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[TheBrains]

quick question: ive been keeping the lights about 1-2inch away from em and its not burning them... although they ARE VERY short and bushy .. I no short bushy plant will result in tight compact buds (correct me if wrong) and is thier a such thing as "too short" should I raise lights and allow them to stretch to about 10 inches or so???? before I switch to a 12/12.. also lights have been on for 13 dayz now.
..


5 inches width
2inches tall

one of them has its smelly :) today is DAY 13

I was thinkin about puttin them on a 20/4 for the 3rd and 4th week then go to 12/12... does this make since to sorta let them get used to dark instead going str8 to 12/12???

ty much brainz

[TheBrains]

Day 14.... they grew about half a inch last night~ I WOULD REALL LIKE SOME FEEDBACK... could someone please answer the questions ABOVE ^^^ on my last post

[Jory420]

let them grow bushy
they'll stretch when you switch

[AcousticStoner420]

What up Brains i saw the need for some questions answered on your thread, so i will do my best to help you out. Leave the lights about 2" away from your plants, you want them to be short and bushy ALL THE WAY through their 18/6 "veg" phase... Do NOT slowly switch their light cycle... Go DIRECTLY from 18/6 to 12/12. Hope i could be of some help Brains...

Stay UP :rasta:
!AC420
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Any posts made by me are purely fictional in nature and by no means is anything I say to be taken seriously. I do not grow or condone the growing of anything not legal. Any and all pictures I post are pictures widley available on the internet and any discussions I am involved in are purely hypothetical or are commentary in nature and should not constitute advice or be considered advice to assist in activities that are deemed illegal.

[TheBrains]

hmm 18/6 is what I should be runnin???

im running 24/0 for the last 14 dayz ..

At 12pm tonight ill put them on 18/6...

[AcousticStoner420]

Smart move... it will promote STRONGER root growth during the dark period... look at my log and tell me if at 2 weeks you are where i was... curiously enough i would like to know how the 24/0 worked out for u...

Stay UP :rasta:
!Acoustic
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Any posts made by me are purely fictional in nature and by no means is anything I say to be taken seriously. I do not grow or condone the growing of anything not legal. Any and all pictures I post are pictures widley available on the internet and any discussions I am involved in are purely hypothetical or are commentary in nature and should not constitute advice or be considered advice to assist in activities that are deemed illegal.

[TheBrains]

w00t got a digi camera... lemme go get some pics!!!!

[TheBrains]

Testing Picture

http://www.geocities.com/thebrains1198/all.JPG
http://www.geocities.com/thebrains1198/smelly1.JPG
http://www.geocities.com/thebrains1198/smelly2.JPG

[TheBrains]

http://www.geocities.com/thebrains1198/smelly3.JPG

[AcousticStoner420]

Niiiiiice, gettin the digital camera man... But hey to save you some trouble, when u reply just add the pictures through MANAGE ATTACHMENTS at the bottom of your reply... Lookin nice Brains... keep it up man...

Stay UP :rasta:
!AC420
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Any posts made by me are purely fictional in nature and by no means is anything I say to be taken seriously. I do not grow or condone the growing of anything not legal. Any and all pictures I post are pictures widley available on the internet and any discussions I am involved in are purely hypothetical or are commentary in nature and should not constitute advice or be considered advice to assist in activities that are deemed illegal.

[TheBrains]

;p cool i was wondering how to do that.... ill keep u guyz updated.. drinkin time now tho ;p

[TheBrains]

here so people done have to click links...

14 dayz old on a 24/0 going to 18/6 tonight

[The Grim Reefer]

Looking fantastic. As far as the light cycle goes, I've read both ways are fine.

I did 24/0 for the first few weeks and then did 23/1, tonight I switch the 22/2. I'm basically going to keep bringing the light cycle shorter and shorter until I feel they need to flower or until I reach 12/12 :D

Concept420.com -

-A young marijuana plant tends to grow faster if it is grown under continuous light for the first two months of it's development.

-The more light you give your plants, the faster they will grow.

[TheBrains]

day 15 ,

Out of 3 of them 1 of my baby's stinkz the other 2 dont really have much smell if any? could this indicate female?

the one that stinks has more visible crystals on the leafs also... the one that stinks is the one with pic in window seal.

[TheBrains]

QUESTIONS
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also from previous people posting I was told it is best to go straight to 12/12 instead of eazing my way into it... anyone wanna voice opinions?
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How long are they safe in those cups before transplant is needed u think?
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Last thing... What are my chances of a successfull harvest with the lights im running? ya ,ya , I no my yeild will be like half of what it should be , but has anyone actually went from start to finish with something similiar?
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Thanx Tonz The Brainz :rasta:

[TheBrains]

mmm just posting to keep me thread up top ;p

[TheBrains]

IS THIS NORMAL??? notice how the bottom leafs are dying off on one of my babys?????

This is DAY 18

all the way till day 16 they where on a 24/0 the last 2 days I put them on a 18/6 I can already notice them getting "thicker"..

ty the brains

[mand]

Hello Brains :) Yes the bottom leaves do die off, it's perfectly normal and nothing to worry about ;)

However if the leaves above start to die then there may be a problem, but the bottom ones always do and that's ok ;)


love mand xxx:)

[TheBrains]

on the plant where the bottom leaves are dryin up and dying just "one" of the top leafs at the tip dryed up just alittle its startin to green back up tho.. "reason being I left space heater on all night on accident" I bout burnt them ALIVE :(

However the 1st picture has no FLAWS and that is the ONLY stinky one.. "I bet this is the female"

[JohnnyPotGrower]

dude get those things OUT of the tiny cups... the roots have surely filled up all the available space by now... transplant them to bigger pots, loosen up the tangled roots, replant and watch the plant grow quicker than you have ever seen it.

[TheBrains]

2:19am (day 22)

Although they have been growing like crazy!!!! ive seen other posts of people with about the same size "pots/cups" all the way till they r ready to flower... some say they will be ok, some dont... I was hoping to transplant on week 4 the day I go into flowering therefore being able to start my bone meal with fnew soil

HERE IS 2 hours into ((day 22 )) the one on the right is stinky!!!! and the one behind is also ... the one on left has no smell.. I didnt get a pic of the one in big pot ill get it tomorrow **WAS TO LAZY ;p**

Also Im scared to transplant ** I think ima get ahold of my buddys mom she is a garden freak and let her do the dirty work :) **

[TheBrains]

okay here some better pics the leafs are droopin because I just sprayed them.... also I think the resin glands are gettin heavier because when I woke up the pic#2 all the leafs where basically layin on each other... ANY INPUT WOULD HELP

[TheBrains]

Okay the transfer from the 2 small cups is complete although the pot witth the rocks in it the SOIL FELL APART I SAVED IT AS MUCH AS I COULD.. It was leaning on its side dam near when I stuck it in dirt so I watered packed down got it to stand back up for the most part with a little lean still.. I put rocks in there for support.... AFTER A TRANSPLANT SHOULD LIGHTS REMAIN ON OR OFF ???

[smoknjoe]

Just keep going with your normal cycle.

[BukDatAss]

lookin good

[TheBrains]

Well today is day 29 and I decided to start my 12/12 today,, 2 of them are female "I STRONGLY THINK" alos they have a very VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY fruity smell , one has no smell.... my camera sucks so pics suck but see if u can determine what they r .... i looked at a pic of male/female comparison although u guys cant see in the picture these beautys resemble a female very much! day 1 of 12/12 "day 29"





THANX TONZ THE BRAINZ :rasta: :rasta: :rasta: :rasta:

[TheBrains]

Sooo, WHAT DO U PEOPLE THINK!!!! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[sheist]

Wow man.. looking excellent.. what kind of lights are you using??

i'm doin pretty much the same thing, i got 4 plants (another on the way) going to flower April 9, pretty much lyk urs, I'm hopin for the same results.. See in your journal lets me kno what to expect and to look for.. good shit, homie, congradulations, u got 2 baby girls.. BTW, how tall are your plants now??

[sheist]

how long do you plant to flower them?? When do you plant to harvest??

[TheBrains]

hey sheist, im using a VERY shitty lighting system x2 24inch flouro with a hood...... soo my flowering will greatly slow down.... but w/e I got them for free ;p ive spent about 20 bucks all together so fail or suceed I cant gripe..... :)

my fav one ss 10inches tall 11 1/2 inches in widthand ive read that once u start the 12/12 cylce they will double in size.. im looking to keep them about 2 feet tall... btw this is my 1st semi-serious grow soo all this is new to me aswell....

I am absolutley amazed to see something start from nothing and become SOMETHING!! :)


I dont no how long ima flower or when ima harvest.. im just goin with the flow ;p ive heard atleast 6-8 weeks but do to my shitty lighting i may go longer.... Ima make it thier decision , not mine :)

gl bud

[sheist]

I have x2 24in's too.. So I'm to expect the same, but I have 2 25w CFL bulbs with my setup, I'm lookin to up the juice tho.. you should top the plant, it'll cause the plant to grow outward more then upward!

[TheBrains]

Just a little update, day 32 today under some shitty (x2 24"flouro),

day 3 on the 12/12 ...

My best one is exactly 1foot now, others I havent bothered to measure...

QUESTION!
All the seeds where from the same dro bag... And it seems two of my babys have a more "sativa" look to them and the biggest one more indicia....

How the holy hell did this happen?


Thanx Tonz The Brainz!~ :rasta: :rasta: :rasta:

[TheBrains]

cmon show me girlz some lovin!!!! :)


BTW will a 8inch pot be big enough for rest of my grow?????

[britewire]

Maybe they mixed up some seeds..

Maybe use 10 liter pots,cause you'll give more room to the plant for root development witch results in better and more consistent intake of water and nutrients.

[elcheapo]

The strain has not been backcrossed enough to make it stable. Therefore you can end up with a variety of different looking plants. Some look like the father and others like the mother, some can be in between. I guess it could be quite common when growing from bagseed.

[TheBrains]

I little update, none have started to show white hairs yet, BUT it does APPEAR that the bigger one is starting to BUD (also on the top 2 branches it is lookin like it is startin to bud) take a look , feedback plz.

DAY 39

[TheBrains]

ANother Update, Some visible budz although possibly a HERMIE if not FOR SURE :(

[TheBrains]

just checkin in, they buddin good stinky :)



Peace :)

TheBRains :)

[dialtone420]

If ya see balls and hairs its a hermie. Balls and leaves- Male
Hairs and leaves- female Good Luck Man. Ive grown 5 times now and its still hard.