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AcidFreak
02-12-2006, 06:14 AM
**I know it's sorta long, but please read this guys, I'd really appreciate it**

I've been in the system for about a year now, originally started with a minor paraphenelia charge. I live in JOHNSON COUNTY, Kansas, home of probably the gayest most fucked up court system in the US. I got 9 months of Diversion for that. I had a really bad relationship with my mom at the time, and about 5 months into the diversion, after a bad fight, I "ran away" (left the house to cool off, but she viewed it as running away), and after I came home a couple of hours later, found out she had called my diversion officer and told her the whole thing. They revoked my diversion, placing me on a new 12 month PROBATION.

The costs of all this have been fucking extreme (lawyer fees, UAs, costs of diversion, etc), and my family was fucking poor in the first place. Now, we have almost literally no money to spare. My dad's a deadbeat that moved out a while ago, and my mom's unemployed, so it's hard to put food on the table, let alone pay for all this bullshit. And NOW, my brother got 9 months diversion, $500 fine, $200 lawyers fees for WRITING HIS NAME ON A SKATEPARK RAMP IN SHARPIE, about 1 inch by 2 inches in diameter. We could have cleaned it off in 5 minutes with Lysol and a steel wool brush. We can't pay for all this shit, and we're getting extremely sick of driving 30 minutes (the closest place they offer) for all this gay counseling and shit, all because of something every teenager experiments with.

I could go on and on, I have a million stories about how fucked up this system is, but anyways, here's my question. After finding out about the thing with my brother, my mom freaked. What she, and myself are wondering, is what would happen if we just...left. Moved to some random place and just basically said "Fuck it". How hard would they try to track us down? Would they even bother? How would they be able to? Basically, what would happen if we did that.

Thanks for taking the time to read all that, and PLEASE respond, I really need some help...

Mindzeyecreationz
02-12-2006, 04:25 PM
if these are not felony charges and they are not then you could just leave and be ok--misdemeanors are not extradited to other states, you can call your county sherriffs office to ask them what there extradtion limit is--usually it will be something like 300 miles--so just move however far away plus some and dont go back!--and after 7 years, the warrant--if any is issued--will go away---I say move if your mom is cool enough to do it!

AcidFreak
02-12-2006, 04:35 PM
So I wouldn't have any problems, say, applying for jobs or anything like that with my real name and social security number? No nasty little surprises down the road?

AcidFreak
02-12-2006, 04:43 PM
Also, would this be a 300 mile RADIUS around my city?

cokekilla
02-12-2006, 05:15 PM
ive never been booked in my life, but just reading ur post makes me pissed at the government...sorry i have no advice for you man, i would give it to u if i had any.

AcidFreak
02-12-2006, 05:35 PM
No problem, but dude...stay out of the system. Be as un-sketch as possible, you really do not want to get involved. Maybe (hopefully) it's different in other areas, but this flat out sucks. I can either a) stay here and put up with this gay ass probation, not being able to toke, have to be home by 8:30 on weekdays, 10:30 on weekends, not being able to sleep over at friends house, and all the other shit probation entails, but staying with my girlfriend who I love more than anything, or b) leave to some random place, without my girlfriend (my mom is pushing for this)...

What the fuck do I do :(

Mindzeyecreationz
02-12-2006, 07:15 PM
yeah--you can work and do whatever you want--just stay away from your counties radius--call them to find out what it is--they will tell you, it is ok to ask them--
I have warrants in other states but they are misdemeanors and so it doesn't matter--I have even been arrrested where I live now and the other stuff has not been an issue. Only felonies travel nation wide.

I say leave and if your g-friend is old enough to take with you then take her--but be realistic and know that almost definitely you will not be with her forever anyway--take it from my own experience--I have done a lot for girls in my day and not one of them am I still with--you grow and learn

but about the probation -- dont worry about it and just leave--at least as an adult it doesnt matter--I have never been in trouble when I was underage
ps--if you collect blotter sheets like in your avatar I have lots of them that I sell

Mindzeyecreationz
02-12-2006, 07:17 PM
to be more clear the radius is by county, not city--so whatever the extradition limit is for your county--each one is different--
I say it is safer to travel to another state--go up to humboldt county and start over--you would love it if you haven't been there--Northern california

AcidFreak
02-12-2006, 10:55 PM
I wanna move so bad, a place like Northern California or basically anywhere but here would be perfect, I just don't wanna leave her...and I know I probably won't be with her forever, but I still love her a lot...

Mindzeyecreationz
02-13-2006, 12:03 AM
dude--I have felt the pain of love and have even hid my girl from the cops to be with me when I was younger--probably your age--I say take her if your mom will let you and if she will go and pack and move this week if you can--all we have is today--we are not promised tomorrow! I respect the way you feel for her!
ps--what is her age? 17 is legal in just about any state--16 is in some states
--I do have to say I think school is important though--so at least do the GED
--you and her both if you havent already, and in California public college is free if you are low income--they have a thing here called the BOGG fee waiver and just about anyone can qualify--I do--any questions feel free to email me, it is in my signature

WalkaWalka
02-13-2006, 12:31 AM
Heres the thing once your in the system the bastards got you. So spend the money on the first time instead of more on the second time. Also instead of paying fines and shit take the jail time county jails aren't that bad.

AcidFreak
02-13-2006, 12:33 AM
You're probably gonna disregard what I've said about love just 'cause we're young, but we're both 16...I don't know how comfortable I'd be asking her to leave her friends and home to be with me...

Mindzeyecreationz
02-13-2006, 03:02 AM
Love is powerful--It should never be disregarded if you have it!

motorcycletony222
02-13-2006, 07:47 AM
As someone thats been in the system for along time, my advice is to stay put. Your Moms got you into some of this, she has to understand you dont call the popo's, period. Sounds like she will be right back at it once you get settled into a new place. Your only 16 do your two years at home then all your probation should end, then get on that bad moitorscooter and ride, never look back. On the other hand your charges will not follow you if you abscond, so stay or go?

iamapatient
02-13-2006, 05:31 PM
You're probably gonna disregard what I've said about love just 'cause we're young, but we're both 16...

You're not going to like this but kids rarely like doses of reality.

Instead of acting like a child, why don't you learn to take your punishment like a man would and stop fucking up life for your mother who's trying to support you and your brother? You whine because your family cant afford all the expense that you and your brother's crimes add but you take no responsibility for your actions and you place no blame on your brother for tagging shit that's not even his. Additionally, violating your probation might be a felony charge, depending on the laws in your state. Running away doesn't solve anything.

As for your brother, he's learning to be a fuck up from you, so do yourself, him and your mother a favor and grow the fuck up. Stop smoking dope and get a fucking education, instead. When you actually become an adult you can make adult decisions.

I have no comment about whether you're in love or not because it has nothing to do with reality.

Good luck...

h3rbie
02-13-2006, 06:53 PM
You're not going to like this but kids rarely like doses of reality.

Instead of acting like a child, why don't you learn to take your punishment like a man would and stop fucking up life for your mother who's trying to support you and your brother? You whine because your family cant afford all the expense that you and your brother's crimes add but you take no responsibility for your actions and you place no blame on your brother for tagging shit that's not even his. Additionally, violating your probation might be a felony charge, depending on the laws in your state. Running away doesn't solve anything.

As for your brother, he's learning to be a fuck up from you, so do yourself, him and your mother a favor and grow the fuck up. Stop smoking dope and get a fucking education, instead. When you actually become an adult you can make adult decisions.

I have no comment about whether you're in love or not because it has nothing to do with reality.

Good luck...


i agree.. be responsible and face your consequences... learn and move on ~ later

AcidFreak
02-13-2006, 10:26 PM
You're not going to like this but kids rarely like doses of reality.

Instead of acting like a child, why don't you learn to take your punishment like a man would and stop fucking up life for your mother who's trying to support you and your brother? You whine because your family cant afford all the expense that you and your brother's crimes add but you take no responsibility for your actions and you place no blame on your brother for tagging shit that's not even his. Additionally, violating your probation might be a felony charge, depending on the laws in your state. Running away doesn't solve anything.

As for your brother, he's learning to be a fuck up from you, so do yourself, him and your mother a favor and grow the fuck up. Stop smoking dope and get a fucking education, instead. When you actually become an adult you can make adult decisions.

I have no comment about whether you're in love or not because it has nothing to do with reality.

Good luck...

Why you felt the need to be so hostile I don't know, but...

1) The one thing I did wrong was have a pipe on me when I was walking around in an area that had no curfew, at about 11 PM...I didn't even know it was on me, but I fucked up. I shouldn't have had it on me. I'll accept that. That's the ONE thing I've done wrong. How the fuck was I supposed to know she'd call the police
2) OK, he shouldn't have tagged the ramp, are you seriously saying that that's $500 in damages? You can't be serious
3) We had major money problems BEFORE all this
4) I have/am getting a fucking education. I have a tested IQ or 163, am getting pretty good grades, and I'm in the Gifted program.
5) I didn't see any whining, I saw explaining the situation...
6) How is writing your name on a skatepark ramp being a fuck up, and how am I teaching him to be a fuck up? Please enlighten me.
7) I highly doubt it'd be a felony charge, but it's worth looking into...and I'm pretty sure it WOULD solve something if probation went away, and that $700 for my brother did too

Whatever.

iamapatient
02-13-2006, 11:16 PM
1) You're 16 and you think that's all you did wrong? HAHAHA...
2) I'm not saying it's 500.00, the law said it. Liek you finally said, he shouldn't have done it. If he had NOT done it it wouldn't have cost 500.00.
3) And you and your brother have done nothing but make money matters worse, right? Do you have a JOB?
4) See #1
5) Again, see #1 :rolleyes:
6) Did the skatepark ramp belong to him? Did he not break a law and get busted for it? WTF do YOU think it's ok to write ANYTHING on other people's property? Enlightened? :rolleyes:
7) It might not be, I don't know the laws in your state.


"Whatever."

Yeah, there's the right attitude, that'll help your family. :rolleyes:

AcidFreak
02-14-2006, 02:46 AM
1) You're 16 and you think that's all you did wrong? HAHAHA...
2) I'm not saying it's 500.00, the law said it. Liek you finally said, he shouldn't have done it. If he had NOT done it it wouldn't have cost 500.00.
3) And you and your brother have done nothing but make money matters worse, right? Do you have a JOB?
4) See #1
5) Again, see #1 :rolleyes:
6) Did the skatepark ramp belong to him? Did he not break a law and get busted for it? WTF do YOU think it's ok to write ANYTHING on other people's property? Enlightened? :rolleyes:
7) It might not be, I don't know the laws in your state.


"Whatever."

Yeah, there's the right attitude, that'll help your family. :rolleyes:

1) Please tell me, then, what else have I done so horribly wrong?
2) What I meant to say was 'You honestly think his tiny little written name on a skatepark ramp is worth $500 in damages'?
3) Have I not admitted that the original paraphenelia charge was my fault, as well as a mistake? Shit happens, its not like I did it on purpose. And yes, I do have a job.
4) What does having a high IQ and being educated have to do with #1...
5) Still not exactly sure what you're talking about... ":rolleyes:"
6) Jesus Christ, I did not condone what he did, I didn't say it was OK, I didn't say it wasn't his fault, I DID say it doesn't make him a fuck up and I DID say I'm not "teaching him to be a fuck up"


"Whatever."

Yeah, there's the right attitude, that'll help your family.

Actually, it was directed at you; just takes a little bit of common sense to deduce that...

Mindzeyecreationz
02-14-2006, 03:10 AM
hey bro--he is a republican--just ignore him--they like to be dicks and argue about shit they shouldnt--generally speaking of course but very obvious in his case
where I live the officials encourage art and a name on a ramp is a form of artistic expression--not a crime, and a pipe is not a crime here -- neither is a big bag of ganja as long as you are not selling it--worst case here is a $100 fine--no jail or probation

iamapatient
02-14-2006, 03:17 AM
1) I never said "horribly" but, for one, you're a minor and you shouldn't be drinking and smoking dope. I can only assume that you like LSD based on your name but I didn't bother going back to read your post history. Since you've been "in the system" for nearly a year, how old were you when you started? Does your mother approve or do/did you lie and hide it? Most mothers don't give their under <16 year old kids an oz for their birthday so I assume you broke house rules to do whatever it is you do. (How am I doing so far?) Where was I? Oh yeah, you got in this big fight with your mom and ran away. I'm sure she told you not to leave and you bailed anyway, right? When your mom tells you not to leave the house, stay the fuck in. When you're an adult, working for your money, living on your own and paying your own bills you can make all of the adult decisions you want. So you ask what you did wrong? You disrespected your mother, who gave birth to your unappreciative ass, causing friction in your family and basically being a drain on their emotions and budget. Is that wrong? :rolleyes: How about that JOB? Why don't you help for a change and get one so you can help you mom who's done so much for you. Want to fight less with her? Give her 1/2 your check and stay out of trouble.
2) It doesn't matter what I think it's worth, it's not mine and I'm not a judge in your city/state. All I know is it wasn't his to tag.
3) Yes, you ONLY admit you had a pipe, now what are you going to do?
4) You claim you have a high IQ but you're the one that fucked up, got busted, got diversion, blew that, got probation and is talking about running away to blow that too. No offence but is that your idea of bright? How is any of that going to help you go to college or were you planning to sell dope for a living?
5) You think you did nothing wrong except getting caught with a pipe and you think you weren't whining. You're wrong. :D
6) Well, I could be wrong, is this your little brother or an older brother? Maybe you learned to be a fuck up from him. Either way they're still your choices. You're either part of the problem or part of the solution, which are you? Do you think that minors getting busted with drugs helps the cause of legalization? That's what the anti-pot people point to; "think of the kids!" Every kid that gets busted with pot makes it harder to get it legalized, if you care about it, quit until you're an adult.


What do you think of NORML? Do you agree with their principals and ideas?

AcidFreak
02-14-2006, 03:47 AM
1) I never said "horribly" but, for one, you're a minor and you shouldn't be drinking and smoking dope. I can only assume that you like LSD based on your name but I didn't bother going back to read your post history. Since you've been "in the system" for nearly a year, how old were you when you started? Does your mother approve or do/did you lie and hide it? Most mothers don't give their under <16 year old kids an oz for their birthday so I assume you broke house rules to do whatever it is you do. (How am I doing so far?) Where was I? Oh yeah, you got in this big fight with your mom and ran away. I'm sure she told you not to leave and you bailed anyway, right? When your mom tells you not to leave the house, stay the fuck in. When you're an adult, working for your money, living on your own and paying your own bills you can make all of the adult decisions you want. So you ask what you did wrong? You disrespected your mother, who gave birth to your unappreciative ass, causing friction in your family and basically being a drain on their emotions and budget. Is that wrong? :rolleyes: How about that JOB? Why don't you help for a change and get one so you can help you mom who's done so much for you. Want to fight less with her? Give her 1/2 your check and stay out of trouble.
2) It doesn't matter what I think it's worth, it's not mine and I'm not a judge in your city/state. All I know is it wasn't his to tag.
3) Yes, you ONLY admit you had a pipe, now what are you going to do?
4) You claim you have a high IQ but you're the one that fucked up, got busted, got diversion, blew that, got probation and is talking about running away to blow that too. No offence but is that your idea of bright? How is any of that going to help you go to college or were you planning to sell dope for a living?
5) You think you did nothing wrong except getting caught with a pipe and you think you weren't whining. You're wrong. :D
6) Well, I could be wrong, is this your little brother or an older brother? Maybe you learned to be a fuck up from him. Either way they're still your choices. You're either part of the problem or part of the solution, which are you? Do you think that minors getting busted with drugs helps the cause of legalization? That's what the anti-pot people point to; "think of the kids!" Every kid that gets busted with pot makes it harder to get it legalized, if you care about it, quit until you're an adult.


What do you think of NORML? Do you agree with their principals and ideas?

1) I first smoked about 3 months into my freshman year of high school. I never had to keep it a secret from my mom, before I got caught I even smoked with her once, no secrets. About the "running away", we got into an argument (I guess that makes me a fuck up too), and I left the house to cool off. She didn't stop me. I do have a job, I do more shit around the house than she does, I already give her half of my check. Oh, and please try to find me a kid who's never disrepected his mom before. I suppose you were a perfect little angel your whole life, right?
2) ONCE AGAIN, I didn't say what he did wasn't wrong, I said that it's a little harsh to fine him $500 for that
3)
3) Have I not admitted that the original paraphenelia charge was my fault, as well as a mistake? I hope you know how to read
4) Ok apparently I have to repeat everything multiple times before you understand (which apparently you still don't), but I ADMIT I FUCKED UP ORIGINALLY TO GET THE PARAPHENILIA CHARGE. I HEREBY ADMIT THE PARAPHENILIA CHARGE WAS COMPLETELY 100% MY FAULT, is that enough for you? As far as getting probation, I didn't blow shit, it's common sense why the fuck would she call the cops? That doesn't even make sense
5) The original point of my thread wasn't even about my original charge. I was not whining; I have re-read my original post like 3 times now. You are a prick: Fact.
6) Who the fuck was talking about legalization? And what makes it ok for adults but not kids? "You're breaking the law" man. Maybe you should quit smoking entirely.

And I've never researched or learned anything about NORML. Couldn't even tell you what the name stands for to be honest.

iamapatient
02-14-2006, 04:21 AM
1) Your claiming your mom never stopped you from leaving yet she called you PO anyway? Please, Now who's trying to claim he's an angel? :rolleyes: As for me, no, I never brought that kind of drama and grief on my family when I was a kid.
2) Again, if he hadn't done it it wouldn't have cost a penny. There's these things called consequences. Big word, I know, look it up. ;)
3) Again, now what are you going to do? Are you going to continue to put your family and education at risk?
4) She called the cops because you ran away. Ever try talking to her about it?
5) You were whining and calling everything "gay." Don't EVEN try to bullshit me kid. I know bitch and moan when I hear it. :D
6) In my state, it's legal for *adults* who have a doctors rec. I am a patient. Additionally, there are many things that are OK for adults and not for kids, when you grow the fuck up, someday, you'll understand that.

So you've been smoking dope for a couple of years, you've been here over 6 months with 274 posts (so far) and you've never checked out the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws? http://www.norml.org
Really? That has to be the most well known pro-pot org. Are you sure you're just not trying to bullshit me again? NORML has been fighting anti-marijuana laws for decades. ;)

Earthy Dank
02-14-2006, 01:49 PM
Iamapatient, you start arguements everywhere you go... damn apparently you are friendless:( I pity you

Earthy Dank
02-14-2006, 01:53 PM
you also sound like a cop...

WhiskeyGirl
02-14-2006, 02:29 PM
Heavy Stuff, so how are you and your mom and your bro doing now acid?
I have 3 boys so i can relate to the trouble. My 23 yr old is incarcerated, probation violation, but it started when he was 14 ( he has ADHD) if any 1 cares, me and my husband have helped him numerous times, its up to him now.... has been for a while, I think he needs a re hab, not jail. M y17 yr old is a junior in HS, he is lazy big time, hasnt gotten arrested (yet?) has tried weed, I found it in his room, but hes had a job since he was 14 , same job, its just that he is extremely lazy and HE is numbero uno , in his eyes, what do you guys think? I also have a 13 yr old son. The 17 yr old is the only 1 that dosent have ADHD.
So, I can relate acid..............

iamapatient
02-14-2006, 06:23 PM
Iamapatient, you start arguements everywhere you go... damn apparently you are friendless:( I pity you

you also sound like a cop...

HAHAHAHA, why do inbred retards always resort to these types of attacks when made fools of in other threads? We saw what happens when you try to guess. Another short yellow bus rider, reduced to nothing. :D

AcidFreak
02-14-2006, 10:17 PM
1) Your claiming your mom never stopped you from leaving yet she called you PO anyway? Please, Now who's trying to claim he's an angel? :rolleyes: As for me, no, I never brought that kind of drama and grief on my family when I was a kid.
2) Again, if he hadn't done it it wouldn't have cost a penny. There's these things called consequences. Big word, I know, look it up. ;)
3) Again, now what are you going to do? Are you going to continue to put your family and education at risk?
4) She called the cops because you ran away. Ever try talking to her about it?
5) You were whining and calling everything "gay." Don't EVEN try to bullshit me kid. I know bitch and moan when I hear it. :D
6) In my state, it's legal for *adults* who have a doctors rec. I am a patient. Additionally, there are many things that are OK for adults and not for kids, when you grow the fuck up, someday, you'll understand that.

So you've been smoking dope for a couple of years, you've been here over 6 months with 274 posts (so far) and you've never checked out the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws? http://www.norml.org
Really? That has to be the most well known pro-pot org. Are you sure you're just not trying to bullshit me again? NORML has been fighting anti-marijuana laws for decades. ;)

1) Nope, she never stopped me. You can choose to believe it or not, I don't really care. And even if you didn't do anything to cause 'drama or grief' (which I HIGHLY doubt), people make mistakes. Jesus.
2) Will you quit being such a dumb ass and just answer the question? Do you HONESTLY think that's a fair punishment? For at least the THIRD time, I NEVER SAID WHAT HE DID WAS OK. Hopefully that will be the last time I have to say that.
3) I'm not putting anyone at risk. This was my MOMS idea, and ultimately it's her decision whether we move or not. I was originally asking what the repercussions could be.
4) Yeah, actually we worked it out right when I got home. She regrets getting them involved because it's caused nothing but problems for us.
5) I guess there's no point in even saying anything to this. OK, if it makes you that happy then yes, I was 'whining and moaning'. Bet you've got a stiffy now :D
6) That may be so, but in my mind cannabis isn't one of them. I suppose the first time you ever smoked was when you got a prescription, right? :rolleyes:

All I said was I have never looked into NORML. No, I'm not trying to "bullshit you again" :D even though I'm not exactly sure when I bullshitted you in the first place...I don't respect you enough to put any effort into bullshitting you. You really are nothing more than, once again, a prick, and no amount of cute little smilies after your sarcastic posts are going to change that.

AcidFreak
02-14-2006, 10:19 PM
Heavy Stuff, so how are you and your mom and your bro doing now acid?
I have 3 boys so i can relate to the trouble. My 23 yr old is incarcerated, probation violation, but it started when he was 14 ( he has ADHD) if any 1 cares, me and my husband have helped him numerous times, its up to him now.... has been for a while, I think he needs a re hab, not jail. M y17 yr old is a junior in HS, he is lazy big time, hasnt gotten arrested (yet?) has tried weed, I found it in his room, but hes had a job since he was 14 , same job, its just that he is extremely lazy and HE is numbero uno , in his eyes, what do you guys think? I also have a 13 yr old son. The 17 yr old is the only 1 that dosent have ADHD.
So, I can relate acid..............

Damn that shit sucks :( Hope everything works out well for you. Rehabilitation should always be opted for over incarceration. :( Good luck.

iamapatient
02-14-2006, 10:54 PM
1) You shouldn't care that I don't believe your story.
2) I told you, it's not my ramp, I know nothing about it, I could see that it MIGHT be fair. I don't know your laws or your brother's situation.
3) Which is why I said that it "might" be a felony to run. Since you're 16 and you just got caught with a pipe, it might not follow you to other states. Like I keep telling you, I don't know the laws in your state.
4) So you're claiming she called your PO because she was mad it backfired on her due to the costs?
5) I don't EVEN want to know why you'd go there...
6) When *I* started is beside the point, I never got busted with a pipe as a 16 yr old kid and my kids are older than you are now so I'm clearly allowed to make my own choices. When you become an adult, you can make those choices too.

I still call bullshit. :D
Principles of Responsible Cannabis Use (http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=3417)

AcidFreak
02-14-2006, 11:11 PM
1) You shouldn't care that I don't believe your story.
2) I told you, it's not my ramp, I know nothing about it, I could see that it MIGHT be fair. I don't know your laws or your brother's situation.
3) Which is why I said that it "might" be a felony to run. Since you're 16 and you just got caught with a pipe, it might not follow you to other states. Like I keep telling you, I don't know the laws in your state.
4) So you're claiming she called your PO because she was mad it backfired on her due to the costs?
5) I don't EVEN want to know why you'd go there...
6) When *I* started is beside the point, I never got busted with a pipe as a 16 yr old kid and my kids are older than you are now so I'm clearly allowed to make my own choices. When you become an adult, you can make those choices too.

I still call bullshit. :D
Principles of Responsible Cannabis Use (http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=3417)

1) ...I don't. That's what I said.
2) I've told you the situation. Tiny, his signature, one inch by two inches, in Sharpie, on skatepark ramp. No matter how much you may disagree with me on anything else there's no possible way you could say that's a fair punishment.
3) I was just saying that this isn't all my idea, and I'm not putting anyone at risk. It's her idea.
4) She called my diversion officer (I was on Diversion at the time), before I got home. After we talked, she regretted calling the police.
5) It's an expression, obviously. I guess you're going to try to make me out to be gay now, right? :D
6) Right, the law doesn't apply to you, and because your sons are older than me that makes it OK for them to break the law and smoke marijuana, right?


What exactly are you calling bullshit on? :confused:

iamapatient
02-14-2006, 11:36 PM
1) Great, then we agree, are we done with 1) yet?
2) Yes tiny, so what? How big was the ramp? What kind of materials and what shape? Cost to build? How old? Who owns it? Private or public? Does the law define damages or is it descretionary? How did they come up with 500? Was there an estimate? Like I keep trying to tell you, I don't have enough info to say if 500 is fair.
3) I don't know the laws in your state but I've seen juges go after parents for kids not doing what they're supposed to be doing like cutting school even so, if you have those kind of judges you might be putting your mom at risk, even if it's her idea. What you need to do, is find out what the laws are in your state instead of asking me. :D
4) Right, you keep saying it but I still don't buy it (I assume we can let go of 4) now)
5) Did I or did I NOT say that I didn't even want to know why you'd go there? You're the little homophobe that was calling everything "gay" in your first post. I'm not suggesting anything, I'm COMPLETELY apathetic to your sexuality.
"Not that there's anything WRONG with that..." -- Jerry Seinfeld (You're not good at this, you should drop 5) too)
6) What I'm saying is that *I* am an adult and therefore it's ok for me to make choices that are no appropriate for minors to make. Like I told you I live in a pro-mmj state and I therefore enjoy state protections. My children are adults with kids of their own so if they want to make adult choices that's on them too. You, however, are 16, do not live in a pro-mmj state, have no state protections and are too young to make such decisions which is why I keep telling you that when you become an adult you can make adult choices too. (done with 6) too?)

Besides your stories and excuses? Nothing. :D

AcidFreak
02-15-2006, 12:13 AM
Whatever. I've reached the conclusion that you are either a troll (if you're not aware of the definition of the term 'troll' tell me), and if so you are a damn good one 'cause you royally pissed me off. :)

Either that or you're just a plain, flat-out asshole. Either way, you're so bent on being a prick and making your self-satisfying little comments, it's not helping anything, so whatever. I'm done. With luck this will be my last post in this thread directed towards you. Anyone else, sorry you had to see this. :)

iamapatient
02-15-2006, 12:32 AM
You've gone out of your way to make sure that I know that you don't care what I think so what makes you think I care what a 16 year old kid thinks of me? One of these days you'll grow up....maybe. Either way, you're still a punk kid fuck up in denial. With luck, that will be the last post directed towards me in ANY thread but I'm usually not that lucky. :D

StonerWarArena
02-15-2006, 02:25 AM
you also sound like a cop...

that's exactly what i was thinking...

iamapatient
02-15-2006, 02:29 AM
:rolleyes:

funKinGwaFd
02-15-2006, 03:30 PM
iamipatient! i think you where a bit of a loser growing up! ( personal opinion!) you give acid a hard time time bout the shit he's done and i give him and his little brother props! fuck yeh they made mistakes and got caught! so fuckin what dude! i always got a bong, and i painted (tagged!!) the shit outta my town! i jus didn't get bust! at least he done more growin up an learnin than you ever will! fuck jock strap preppy bitches like you dude! i hated dudes like you in high school, and this thread from a "normal" dude, makes me hate your kind more! acid, i say smoke the shit outta that bong an tell your bro to go to "artcrimes.com" (but maybe stick to legal walls till he can look after himself!), fuck you patient, you don't belong here with that bullshit attitude!:thumbsup: :rasta:

iamapatient
02-15-2006, 07:21 PM
"i think you where a bit of a loser growing up! ( personal opinion!)"

Why would you have fantasies about what I was like growing up? :D


"you give acid a hard time time bout the shit he's done and i give him and his little brother props! fuck yeh they made mistakes and got caught! so fuckin what dude! i always got a bong, and i painted (tagged!!) the shit outta my town!"

Now we see, you approve of his fuck up tagging brother becase you're a fuck up too and you have the nerve to call others losers? HAHAHA pot/kettle/black. :rolleyes:


"fuck you patient, you don't belong here with that bullshit attitude!"

HAHAHA, I don't give a flying fuck if you don't like me, retard. You're just not that important. Get used to it. :D

Earthy Dank
02-15-2006, 10:41 PM
Iamapatient just can't accept losing and arguement. If you like probation so much i suggest you sign up. People like youy deserve it.

iamapatient
02-16-2006, 12:05 AM
This is a forum for cannabis not idiots like you to run their mouth. I'm done with you. Enjoy your ignorance. I've heard its quite blissful. Get over yourself

Yeah, I knew you were a liar too :D