View Full Version : "Healthy" living -- is it ever too late?
sophiastarchild
02-04-2006, 01:07 AM
Ok, first off...I am NOT giving up cannabis. When I say healthy living, I mean no cigarettes or alcohol, lots of water, vegetables, exercise, etc...
I am wondering, have I sustained permanent and unfixable damage from all the horrible things I've done in the past? Like...smoking cigarettes, sniffing chemicals, smoking out of aluminum cans, doing meth, coke, smoking crack, and once I drank an entire bottle of Nyquil (I was extremely troubled in my late teens...)
Now that I'm older, I want to be healthy and live long. I wonder if any of the above mistakes have fucked me up in some way for life.
I don't feel bad or anything, other than a nagging smokers' cough from the cigs. I'm just kind of paranoid.
beachguy in thongs
02-04-2006, 02:15 AM
No, you're just paranoid. I think you're husband should take it easy on you for a while, it seems like you're nerves have been pretty, torn up lately. It takes seven years for your body to totally cleanse itself of cigarettes, I heard that several years ago.
beachguy in thongs
02-04-2006, 02:16 AM
Now that I'm older, I want to be healthy and live long.
Are you sure you didn't mean...
Now that I'm older, I want to be healthy and smoke a bong. ?
AcidFreak
02-04-2006, 02:43 AM
Ok, first off...I am NOT giving up cannabis. When I say healthy living, I mean no cigarettes or alcohol, lots of water, vegetables, exercise, etc...
I am wondering, have I sustained permanent and unfixable damage from all the horrible things I've done in the past? Like...smoking cigarettes, sniffing chemicals, smoking out of aluminum cans, doing meth, coke, smoking crack, and once I drank an entire bottle of Nyquil (I was extremely troubled in my late teens...)
Now that I'm older, I want to be healthy and live long. I wonder if any of the above mistakes have fucked me up in some way for life.
I don't feel bad or anything, other than a nagging smokers' cough from the cigs. I'm just kind of paranoid.
Who wants to be old anyway :rasta:
Crispyfried
02-04-2006, 02:50 AM
Yes it's possible to get healthy, although healing does take time. Two years of healthy living is adequate time to get really healthy. Many movie stars from the 70s and 80s did a lot of hard drugs, but have since changed their ways and gotten quite healthy. Drinking lots of water actually doesn't do much good, but instead try teas (like green tea), and juices (really healthy ones like blueberry, cranberry, spirulina smoothies, etc). Eat fish instead of meat, and use healthy oils like olive and canola. Stay away from deep fried foods. And marijuana is fine, but consider marijuana drinks like Bhang.
Ganjasaurusrex
02-04-2006, 04:38 AM
My advice.
Begin by concentrating on your most powerful antioxidants.
Ascorbic acid. Minimum, 10-12 full grams/day 4xday. This will keep your plasma levels constant. Any type of stress or smoking, anything will lower your plasma levels, so your body cant fight off disease.
Low plasma levels means lymphocytes are ineffective which makes you suseptible to flues and pnuemonias. Lymphocytes are like a car and ascorbic is like gas. Lymphocytes kill foreign invaders of the body.
There is no pharmaceutical product that will activate lymphocytes. Ascorbic acid is the only way. That is a scientific fact. Ascorbic is water soluble and is quickly eliminated in the urine. Anything less than this amount is worthless. This will protect the linings of your lungs as well as many other functions of the body, arterial walls, collegen, lymphocytes etc. many.
Just enter (ascorbic smoking) in your search box and see how many hits comes up.
There are four mammals on the planet that have lost the one enzyme in the liver of three to synthesize ascorbic naturally,
The human, The primate, The guinea pig and the fruit eating bat.
This is thought due to early migration patterns in evolution. So it is essential. You will die in 200 days without it as the British sailors learned in 1750 and the first Antarctic expedition when both found themselves without a citrus source. Many died of disease related to scurvy.
Dogs produce their own ascorbic naturally in the liver. This can easily be measured in the urine output especially when they are stressed. This is also why they can eat dirty things off the ground and not get sick. But this declines as they age. Humans need an external constant source to fight disease as do the other mammals listed and why they consume fruits that have ascorbic naturally. So smoking, (anything) and stress will dramatically lower your ascorbic plasma levels to marginal. This is the threshold of where disease occurs.
When ascorbic plasma levels are low many things begin to happen to the body known as scurvy. But many more diseases that fall under the condition of acute induced scurvy right now plague our society, heart disease being one.
You can prevent scurvy with a minimal amount of ascorbic, usrda, but preventing the diseases of acute induced scurvy require a greater amount.
Dont worry, ascorbic is the least toxic substance on the planet and mercury is one of the most toxic.
It is funny when I mention to people to take increased amounts of ascorbic yet these are the same people who have multiple grams of mercury amalgam in their teeth leeching into their blood stream through the pulp. Have that removed and replaced with composite by the way if you have it. Very bad for the internal organs.
Ascorbic is not toxic to the body until doses of 500 grams are reached in 24 hours.
Ascorbic carrys a free electron and neutralizes free radicals and simultaneously fuels lymphocytes. So the idea is you are throwing away the bulk of the ascorbic for the free electron carried. Ascorbic is also a powerful bacteriostat in the urinary system.
I have used the "titration" method to knock out pneumonia in short order. It works as a reducing agent preventing a free radical cascade which overwhelms the immune system. This is how flues turn into pneumonias and how pnemonias lead to death. Its a cascade effect due to stagnate lymphocytes.
Check the Linus Pauling institute for dose reccomendations on the following powerful antioxidants:
Vitamin E (fat soluble so dont think more is better).
Vitamin A (fat soluble same thing dont think more is better)
CoQ10, powerful antioxidant.(kinda of pricey because Japan holds patent rights on this molecule. Great for the heart as well.
OR
You could just take a good multivitamin with E and A and supplement with COQ10 and the higher dose of ascorbic. Ascorbic and E are synergistic together.
also add omega 3,6,9 oil to your diet 4-6 grams/ day divided.
All 4 of these combined with the low glycemic diet. One that is low in processed sugar and refined carbs, white bread, white rice, etc. will dramatically help your health and protect your lungs,skin internal organs. But it is not an excuse to keep doing harmful things just because you are supplementing.
The vegetarian diet supplemented with a protien source from a protien powder or soymilk is a good way to get the protein without eating meat, which is full of hormones, dyes, and as we have found out in the news other things which are not supposed to be in the cattles diet, (spine and brain) which scientist have known by studying cannables in Borneo causes the mad cow symptoms. I have no idea why this stuff gets anywhere near the cattles food supply and why I keep hearing about this. Frankly I just dont trust what they feed these animals.
I would stick to turkey, chicken and fish from a natural supplier and not the grocery store.
If you can neutralize free radicals in the body you can keep disease from forming including cancers.
Crispyfriend reccomended green tea. That is a good also. Cranberry juice is also good provided it has no added sugar (high fructose corn syrup) etc. Olive oil is good as well. He also says avoid fried foods. I agree alot with that .I havent ate french fries for many, many years. In fact I avoid fast food altogether.
There are many things you can do with what you eat and supplement with to keep you healthy.
YOu can avoid heart disease by supplementing with the dose of ascorbic listed above, the ascorbic will dramatically strengthen the arterial walls, and the addition of the amino acids, Lysine and Proline.
This will strengthen arterial walls so the body doesnt respond with sticky cholesterol to repair the weakened arteries. (thats what heart disease really is). The good cholesterol/bad cholesterol is a myth. Lpa is the true villian. The Lysine and Proline will disolve arterial plaques while simultaneously making Lpa non sticky. So its a three part effort.
That should at least help you get started. Good to see you are making changes.
Moderation in everything including weed. It does have deletereous effects on the body regardless of what anyone says. Especially libido for long term heavy use.
Take care.
pabloescobar209
02-04-2006, 04:50 AM
My advice.
Begin by concentrating on your most powerful antioxidants.
Ascorbic acid. Minimum, 10-12 full grams/day 4xday. This will keep your plasma levels constant. Any type of stress or smoking, anything will lower your plasma levels, so your body cant fight off disease.
Low plasma levels means lymphocytes are ineffective which makes you suseptible to flues and pnuemonias. Lymphocytes are like a car and ascorbic is like gas. Lymphocytes kill foreign invaders of the body.
There is no pharmaceutical product that will activate lymphocytes. Ascorbic acid is the only way. That is a scientific fact. Ascorbic is water soluble and is quickly eliminated in the urine. Anything less than this amount is worthless. This will protect the linings of your lungs as well as many other functions of the body, arterial walls, collegen, lymphocytes etc. many.
Just enter (ascorbic smoking) in your search box and see how many hits comes up.
There are four mammals on the planet that have lost the one enzyme in the liver of three to synthesize ascorbic naturally,
The human, The primate, The guinea pig and the fruit eating bat.
This is thought due to early migration patterns in evolution. So it is essential. You will die in 200 days without it as the British sailors learned in 1750 and the first Antarctic expedition when both found themselves without a citrus source. Many died of disease related to scurvy.
Dogs produce their own ascorbic naturally in the liver. This can easily be measured in the urine output especially when they are stressed. This is also why they can eat dirty things off the ground and not get sick. But this declines as they age. Humans need an external constant source to fight disease as do the other mammals listed and why they consume fruits that have ascorbic naturally. So smoking, (anything) and stress will dramatically lower your ascorbic plasma levels to marginal. This is the threshold of where disease occurs.
When ascorbic plasma levels are low many things begin to happen to the body known as scurvy. But many more diseases that fall under the condition of acute induced scurvy right now plague our society, heart disease being one.
You can prevent scurvy with a minimal amount of ascorbic, usrda, but preventing the diseases of acute induced scurvy require a greater amount.
Dont worry, ascorbic is the least toxic substance on the planet and mercury is one of the most toxic.
It is funny when I mention to people to take increased amounts of ascorbic yet these are the same people who have multiple grams of mercury amalgam in their teeth leeching into their blood stream through the pulp. Have that removed and replaced with composite by the way if you have it. Very bad for the internal organs.
Ascorbic is not toxic to the body until doses of 500 grams are reached in 24 hours.
Ascorbic carrys a free electron and neutralizes free radicals and simultaneously fuels lymphocytes. So the idea is you are throwing away the bulk of the ascorbic for the free electron carried. Ascorbic is also a powerful bacteriostat in the urinary system.
I have used the "titration" method to knock out pneumonia in short order. It works as a reducing agent preventing a free radical cascade which overwhelms the immune system. This is how flues turn into pneumonias and how pnemonias lead to death. Its a cascade effect due to stagnate lymphocytes.
Check the Linus Pauling institute for dose reccomendations on the following powerful antioxidants:
Vitamin E (fat soluble so dont think more is better).
Vitamin A (fat soluble same thing dont think more is better)
CoQ10, powerful antioxidant.(kinda of pricey because Japan holds patent rights on this molecule. Great for the heart as well.
OR
You could just take a good multivitamin with E and A and supplement with COQ10 and the higher dose of ascorbic. Ascorbic and E are synergistic together.
also add omega 3,6,9 oil to your diet 4-6 grams/ day divided.
All 4 of these combined with the low glycemic diet. One that is low in processed sugar and refined carbs, white bread, white rice, etc. will dramatically help your health and protect your lungs,skin internal organs. But it is not an excuse to keep doing harmful things just because you are supplementing.
The vegetarian diet supplemented with a protien source from a protien powder or soymilk is a good way to get the protein without eating meat, which is full of hormones, dyes, and as we have found out in the news other things which are not supposed to be in the cattles diet, (spine and brain) which scientist have known by studying cannables in Borneo causes the mad cow symptoms. I have no idea why this stuff gets anywhere near the cattles food supply and why I keep hearing about this. Frankly I just dont trust what they feed these animals.
I would stick to turkey, chicken and fish from a natural supplier and not the grocery store.
If you can neutralize free radicals in the body you can keep disease from forming including cancers.
Crispyfriend reccomended green tea. That is a good also. Cranberry juice is also good provided it has no added sugar (high fructose corn syrup) etc. Olive oil is good as well. He also says avoid fried foods. I agree alot with that .I havent ate french fries for many, many years. In fact I avoid fast food altogether.
There are many things you can do with what you eat and supplement with to keep you healthy.
YOu can avoid heart disease by supplementing with the dose of ascorbic listed above, the ascorbic will dramatically strengthen the arterial walls, and the addition of the amino acids, Lysine and Proline.
This will strengthen arterial walls so the body doesnt respond with sticky cholesterol to repair the weakened arteries. (thats what heart disease really is). The good cholesterol/bad cholesterol is a myth. Lpa is the true villian. The Lysine and Proline will disolve arterial plaques while simultaneously making Lpa non sticky. So its a three part effort.
That should at least help you get started. Good to see you are making changes.
Moderation in everything including weed. It does have deletereous effects on the body regardless of what anyone says. Especially libido for long term heavy use.
Take care.
we need more people like you to make more posts like this, see people this is how its done. a perfectly written response including information , personal experiences, and you're opinion. You stimluated my mind... thank you keep it up:thumbsup: :rasta:
Crispyfried
02-04-2006, 05:11 AM
Excess vitamin C will do essentially nothing for you. The frontiers in nutrition and medicine lie with many different types of phytochemicals that plants produce, and which are not the common, basic essential nutrients such as vitamin C. I am so tired of all the bogus diet crap out there. Just read some scientific articles.
EDIT
OK sorry most of that info is fine but the vitamin C stuff is a bit too much/too outdated.
potsmokingnome
02-04-2006, 05:53 AM
My advice.
Begin by concentrating on your most powerful antioxidants.
Ascorbic acid. Minimum, 10-12 full grams/day 4xday. This will keep your plasma levels constant. Any type of stress or smoking, anything will lower your plasma levels, so your body cant fight off disease.
Low plasma levels means lymphocytes are ineffective which makes you suseptible to flues and pnuemonias. Lymphocytes are like a car and ascorbic is like gas. Lymphocytes kill foreign invaders of the body.
There is no pharmaceutical product that will activate lymphocytes. Ascorbic acid is the only way. That is a scientific fact. Ascorbic is water soluble and is quickly eliminated in the urine. Anything less than this amount is worthless. This will protect the linings of your lungs as well as many other functions of the body, arterial walls, collegen, lymphocytes etc. many.
Just enter (ascorbic smoking) in your search box and see how many hits comes up.
There are four mammals on the planet that have lost the one enzyme in the liver of three to synthesize ascorbic naturally,
The human, The primate, The guinea pig and the fruit eating bat.
This is thought due to early migration patterns in evolution. So it is essential. You will die in 200 days without it as the British sailors learned in 1750 and the first Antarctic expedition when both found themselves without a citrus source. Many died of disease related to scurvy.
Dogs produce their own ascorbic naturally in the liver. This can easily be measured in the urine output especially when they are stressed. This is also why they can eat dirty things off the ground and not get sick. But this declines as they age. Humans need an external constant source to fight disease as do the other mammals listed and why they consume fruits that have ascorbic naturally. So smoking, (anything) and stress will dramatically lower your ascorbic plasma levels to marginal. This is the threshold of where disease occurs.
When ascorbic plasma levels are low many things begin to happen to the body known as scurvy. But many more diseases that fall under the condition of acute induced scurvy right now plague our society, heart disease being one.
You can prevent scurvy with a minimal amount of ascorbic, usrda, but preventing the diseases of acute induced scurvy require a greater amount.
Dont worry, ascorbic is the least toxic substance on the planet and mercury is one of the most toxic.
It is funny when I mention to people to take increased amounts of ascorbic yet these are the same people who have multiple grams of mercury amalgam in their teeth leeching into their blood stream through the pulp. Have that removed and replaced with composite by the way if you have it. Very bad for the internal organs.
Ascorbic is not toxic to the body until doses of 500 grams are reached in 24 hours.
Ascorbic carrys a free electron and neutralizes free radicals and simultaneously fuels lymphocytes. So the idea is you are throwing away the bulk of the ascorbic for the free electron carried. Ascorbic is also a powerful bacteriostat in the urinary system.
I have used the "titration" method to knock out pneumonia in short order. It works as a reducing agent preventing a free radical cascade which overwhelms the immune system. This is how flues turn into pneumonias and how pnemonias lead to death. Its a cascade effect due to stagnate lymphocytes.
Check the Linus Pauling institute for dose reccomendations on the following powerful antioxidants:
Vitamin E (fat soluble so dont think more is better).
Vitamin A (fat soluble same thing dont think more is better)
CoQ10, powerful antioxidant.(kinda of pricey because Japan holds patent rights on this molecule. Great for the heart as well.
OR
You could just take a good multivitamin with E and A and supplement with COQ10 and the higher dose of ascorbic. Ascorbic and E are synergistic together.
also add omega 3,6,9 oil to your diet 4-6 grams/ day divided.
All 4 of these combined with the low glycemic diet. One that is low in processed sugar and refined carbs, white bread, white rice, etc. will dramatically help your health and protect your lungs,skin internal organs. But it is not an excuse to keep doing harmful things just because you are supplementing.
The vegetarian diet supplemented with a protien source from a protien powder or soymilk is a good way to get the protein without eating meat, which is full of hormones, dyes, and as we have found out in the news other things which are not supposed to be in the cattles diet, (spine and brain) which scientist have known by studying cannables in Borneo causes the mad cow symptoms. I have no idea why this stuff gets anywhere near the cattles food supply and why I keep hearing about this. Frankly I just dont trust what they feed these animals.
I would stick to turkey, chicken and fish from a natural supplier and not the grocery store.
If you can neutralize free radicals in the body you can keep disease from forming including cancers.
Crispyfriend reccomended green tea. That is a good also. Cranberry juice is also good provided it has no added sugar (high fructose corn syrup) etc. Olive oil is good as well. He also says avoid fried foods. I agree alot with that .I havent ate french fries for many, many years. In fact I avoid fast food altogether.
There are many things you can do with what you eat and supplement with to keep you healthy.
YOu can avoid heart disease by supplementing with the dose of ascorbic listed above, the ascorbic will dramatically strengthen the arterial walls, and the addition of the amino acids, Lysine and Proline.
This will strengthen arterial walls so the body doesnt respond with sticky cholesterol to repair the weakened arteries. (thats what heart disease really is). The good cholesterol/bad cholesterol is a myth. Lpa is the true villian. The Lysine and Proline will disolve arterial plaques while simultaneously making Lpa non sticky. So its a three part effort.
That should at least help you get started. Good to see you are making changes.
Moderation in everything including weed. It does have deletereous effects on the body regardless of what anyone says. Especially libido for long term heavy use.
Take care.
That is one of the most well written posts I have read here. Very impresive!
sophiastarchild
02-04-2006, 02:55 PM
Awesome! Thank you so much for all that information...you rock :)
Oh, and Beachguy...lmao...that IS what I meant!
sophiastarchild
02-04-2006, 02:59 PM
Ganjaurusrex...I have to know...are you in a medical profession?
Also, Ascorbic acid...can I buy this in supplement form?
beachguy in thongs
02-04-2006, 07:33 PM
deletereous effects on the body regardless of what anyone says. Especially libido for long term heavy use.
Take care.
How can you say Herb has it's deleterious effects, and regardless of what anyone says? Are you encouraging ignorance?
It's not a well-known fact that Herb causes more injuries than eases them, it's that what you're saying?
Ganjasaurusrex
02-05-2006, 09:54 AM
Sophia,
To answer your question. No I am not in the medical profesion. I have a passion for science.
Keep this in mind.
Mainstream Doctors cannot talk about ascorbic acid over the usrda amount.
They are regulated by law and face felony and disbarrment for doing so.
This has been told to me by 5 M.Ds in two states. Just as your Dentist is not allowed to tell you that mercury amalgam is harmful he faces the same outcome, this also told to me by a Dentist. Yet like I told you this is one of the most toxic substances on the planet and has no place in the human body because it leaches into the pulp then the blood stream and settles in the internal organs.
The usrda has long been challenged by many scientists and physicists for many years concerning ascorbic acid. They have always believed it is far too low and believe it is kept low for a reason. Think about it.
The usrda of ascorbic acid is merely enough to prevent a state of scurvy, and that is all. The condition of acute induced scurvy is far more dangerous as many diseases are not recognized by mainstream medicine as being acute induce scurvy states. They are simply catagorized as individual diseases and "treated" for high costs to the patients and insurance companies.
When medical Doctors are trained in school they rely on peer related review material for study. The majority of this peer related review material comes from the pharmaceutical industry. It is biased.
Many students in the medical profession have been misled and when they practice medicine never mention anything outside of pharmacuetical products, either through ignorance or fear. So a clear line is drawn. There is mainstream pharmaceuticals and practices and there is orthomocular medicine.
I am surprised how many mainstream doctors issue antibiotics yet never inform their patients to follow up with a probiotic, (good bacteria for the stomach). Most antibiotics kill both good and bad bacteria. This causes more problems in the body.
A true Doctor should be allowed to cross the line and treat the patient with both methods. And that is what the true hypocratic oath is meant to be. But it isnt. Its biased.
One other point. Ascorbic acid cannot be patented. Therefore it is not profitable.
The worst distaster in human health has been ignoring the fact that ascorbic acid is essential to the prevention of many diseases and the fact that it is ignored as a natural defect throughout our evolution due to our inability to synthetize it through the loss of one enzyme in three in the liver.
As I mentioned the four beings that cannot synthesize it naturally are the human, the primate, the guinea pig and the fruit eating bat. All other mammals synthesize it naturally in the liver. Reptiles synthesize it in the kidneys.
It is a survival mechanism, for disease and stress.
So why dont eskimos get scurvy? They dont have a citrus source?
It is a tradition that eskimos eat parts of the seal. The eyes and the liver for its ascorbic content. It is viewed more in terms of tradition to health as opposed to actual science to how it works. They know it prevents disease and all family members share in these parts of the seal.
What I compiled for you yesterday is based on many resources.
One most notibly comes from the worlds only twice held noble prize winner, Linus Pauling, In my view and many others the greatest humanitarian scientist to have lived. He devoted his entire career to research on this subject alone. Many more followed beside him and after him in his works.
Others included are a research scientist from Stanford University. Another is from a research scientist from the University of Washington, and another is an Opthomoligist and his work experimenting with medium doses of ascorbic, as the blood vessels in the whites of the eyes are a window into the overall health of the rest of the arterial health of the body.
Amazing images of just one week showing anyourisms in the whites of the eye and swollen arterial vessels reduced and strengthened.
Linus Pauling believed that it is very important to mimick what other mammals produce naturally in the liver through an external source. This means that spill over into the kidneys was important as all other mammals do this naturally, especially when diseased or stressed.
Here are the current recommended daily allowances of ascorbic acid.
Daily intake Source
60-95mg. USRDA intake (about all this does is
prevents scurvy).
200mg. LPI & Levin/NIH intake
3000mg (3grams) Vitamin C foundation intake
6000-12000mg. (6-12grams) Dr. Levy's daily recommended intake
6000-18000mg. (6-18grams) Linus Pauling's recommended intake
6000-9000mg. (6-9grams) Pregnancy/ s.i.d.s. prevention
6000-18000mg. (6-18grams) Heart disease, Linus Pauling
14000-30000mg. (14-30grams) Cancer,(with glycemic control)
20000-300000mg (20-300grams) Cathcart/Levy cure for infectious
disease. Using bowel tollerance method
and Sodium ascorbate I.V. methods or
combinations. 50,000 people treated
using these methods.
If you supplement with ascorbic you can find it at any health food store in a variety of forms. Its all the same substance. To calculate milligrams to grams just move decimal point 3 place to the left. Ex. 1000mg.=1gram.
DO NOT use magnesium ascorbic. Only pure ascorbic powder. Mix with juice or water, however its bitter with water alone, or juice that has no sugar, as sugar spikes insulin which intefers with ascorbic uptake. spaced doses 4xday.
Lots of water with it.
You can combine it in powdered form and with capsule form, its all the same. Tablets are hard on the stomach. Or just use capsules. If you use the powder form just brush your teeth with water only as it is mildly acidic to teeth enamel. So consider capsule form.
But when under an infectious disease state use powder form to increase the doses, (you would never get enough capsules down)
Always space doses to maintain plasma levels. It is passed out in the urine within hours. Plasma spikes 24hrs later.
Many free radical based diseases can be "flash oxidized" in the arteries within hours using sodium ascorbate I.V.
Strep, Staph, pneumonia, flu, etc. histamine from toxic insects i.e brown recluse, black widows, etc. snake bites, ANYTHING which produces a free radical cascade on the body. "titration" method must be used i.e until you get diarea this is based on the severity of the disease which will determine that at which it occurs.
Sodium ascorbate I.V. is 2.5 times faster and effective than oral route. A combination of both can be used.
Antibiotics are synergistic with ascorbic acid. Probiotic needed after.
Certain viruses can be ameliorated as it interfers with the virus shell preventing them to shed.
90% of hospitals do not carry sodium ascorbate or use it even though it is safe and effective. You must find an orthomolecular doctor.The mainstream hospital version is claimed to be too diluted to be of any use anyway as compaired to making it from scratch sodium ascorbate crystals.
The best is mixed from scratch by an orthomocular doctor. You must know what your doing for this and bowell tollerance doses of oral ascorbic when treating an infectious free radical based disease.
Vitamin E must be taken with oral method to prevent hemolysis of red blood cells. You should also follow up with a probiotic after, (yogurts, and other positive culture bacteria for the stomach as the ascorbic is hard on the friendly bacteria in higher doses).
It can be used to naturally increase the body's own interferon levels for aids patients. It does not cure aids. Patients have found it more effective than "cocktail" drugs which have horrible side effects.
It is used in Austrailia to treat heroin withdraw effectively. It calms withdrawl symptoms and stabilizes seratonin and cravings.
It can emeliorate, not cure, viral hepatitis by interfering with the viral shell.
It is effective against many other viruses.
90 out of 90 people were effectively cured of poliomelitus, (polio) in the 1950s by Dr. F.R. Klenner using a combination of both methods, (another great pioneer).
Taking ascorbic acid will keep your arterial walls healthy, your skin from wrinkling from the smoking, keep collagen strong, protect the linings of your lung, fuel your lymphocytes,(especially with titration method when ill), reduce free radicals from smoking and many more things. It is the only substance in three which converts two others in the brain to seratonin.
One side effect of too much ascorbic is diarea. You shouldnt have a problem as that doesnt normally occur until much greater amounts. Just reduce if it occurs.
However that is the theory behind titration method for infectious disease developed by Stamford Doctor, Robert Cathcart. <search web for his site. Very informative. Also visit the Vitamin C foundation.
I urge you to read this and understand it:
"Ascorbic acid: Analog of the germ theory"
faculty.washington.edu/ely/JOM4.html
Its technical, there is an abbreviation list at the bottom of the page.
This knowledge will greatly help you with your decision to become healthy.
Learn as much as you can.
Take care.
KylefromVA
02-05-2006, 01:27 PM
Wow... great post.
Quick question, a couple of you recommended eating fish... lately I've been staying away from eating fish because I keep hearing about them being loaded with mercury. Are there some fish that's ok to eat and others I should stay away from?
pabloescobar209
02-05-2006, 01:30 PM
Wow... great post.
Quick question, a couple of you recommended eating fish... lately I've been staying away from eating fish because I keep hearing about them being loaded with mercury. Are there some fish that's ok to eat and others I should stay away from?
stay away from fish caught in the great lakes... there loaded with it
Starchild
02-05-2006, 01:38 PM
Yes you can.I practice Alternative Medicine and it is great you want to repair the damage..
Crispyfried
02-05-2006, 02:13 PM
One fish to stay away from is swordfish. Tuna also supposedly has high levels of mercury. But eating saturated fat and hydrogenated fat is proabably going to be a lot worse for you anyway, and fish fat is like the opposite of those fats, it helps to prevent and cure cardiovascular disease, and is antiinflammatory. Exercise is also antiinflammatory, and it is critical to create an antiinflammatory environment in your body. Inflammation is highly correlated with disease.
Reefer Rogue
02-05-2006, 02:33 PM
Yes, yes it is.
Ganjasaurusrex
02-06-2006, 01:52 AM
eye vessel images following medium dose ascorbic acid. (1 week).
www.newmediaexplorer.org/chris/2004/12/15/an_open_challenge_to_the_
ridiculous_dietary_allowance_rda.htm
Ganjasaurusrex
02-06-2006, 01:53 AM
problem with link. Try search box.
Open challenge to the ridiculous dietary allowance
(chris gupta)
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