ATTN: METH IS BAD

[heatherhatesyou]

Seriously, guys, don't do meth.

That shit is fucking bad for you.

Please don't do it.


Thank you,

Heather

[Euphoric]

yea meth is for fck ups

[bedake]

how come there is such a population of meth haters here but noone is is voicing their opinions against shootin smack, i mean come on i totally think H is worse than meth

[Syrus]

look, i dont do meth or h, but i dont have anything against peopel who use them as long as they use them reasonibally. And why shouldnt they have the ability to talk bout them?

[bedake]

look, i dont do meth or h, but i dont have anything against peopel who use them as long as they use them reasonibally. And why shouldnt they have the ability to talk bout them?

exactly, anything can be nice in moderation, its just meth and heroin should be moderated much more than other drugs i know people who used did heroin and meth occasionally and they are fine, they just made sure it never got the best of them

[siSTARindigo]

how come there is such a population of meth haters here but noone is is voicing their opinions against shootin smack, i mean come on i totally think H is worse than meth


Heroin has an 18% recovery rate, meth has a 6 % recovery rate. Not sure what the addiction rate on heroin is, but meth has a 95 % addiction rate. So those are pretty shitty odds. Not to mention the havic meth reaks on your body. I know, heroin isn't nice to the body. But heroin isn't diesle fuel :stoned:

Anyways, stay away from the shit!!! I have seen most of my highschool friends, and my hubbies (who is my highschool sweety) go down the drain to it TOTALLY. They look like shit, smell like shit, have no money, all KINDS of drama.

There was an article in our paper, a plea from the dentists of the state I reside in for $200,000 now to be able stay open to help these guys with their teeth. There are so many addicts, and it is so bad for you. It is an epidemic, really.

Eva

[LordRuffleMontgomery]

It also should be noted that heroin is eons away from meth as far as effects go, you don't really know until you've done it, but it's pretty much heaven on Earth.

[CocaCola]

And it should also be be noted, again, that those drain people are people who abused.

[heatherhatesyou]

im not being judgemental. i have no reason to judge anyone.

im honestly just fucking worried about this shit becoming more and more readily available and cheaper and cheaper cause any redneck can cook up sudafed and battery acid under their sink. think about that. at least heroin is a fucking plant. can't be tampered with too much. i dont condone heroin, but at least i can understand it.

meth is just fucking bad for you. its not just bad, it's horrible. i see my friends getting tangled up in this shit and it's honestly ridiculous. bush droning on about the threats of marijuana, meanwhile 8 meth labs just popped up in his backyard.

please dont do meth.

thank you.

[andruejaysin]

It also should be noted that heroin is eons away from meth as far as effects go, you don't really know until you've done it, but it's pretty much heaven on Earth.To which are you refering? I guess it doesn't matter, I kinda like to mix the two.

[CocaCola]

Heroin isn't from a plant, exactly.

And besides, you're no one Heather, and your words won't sway people because to them it's good. I hate Marijuana. There.

[heatherhatesyou]

i honestly dont believe people are ARGUING about this.

meth is a fucking EPIDEMIC. it's poised to take over the fucking world. you're an idiot. i know i'm no one. i'm hoping that by taking a few steps to open people's eyes, maybe i'll make some sort of a difference.

this is ridiculous. make up your own minds. but this shit is polluting our society and it's not stopping anytime soon.

do whatever the fuck you want.

[thcbongman]

But this is not the place to argue about it. Note Other Psychotropics. It's to inform people of how to safely use it, the properties. and answer any questions they may have. Your opinion is going to stop anyone from trying it out, it's best to inform them in an unbias manner, whether they end up choosing to or not.

[heatherhatesyou]

its not just about information. we can have a fucking debate about it if we want.

there IS no safe way to use meth. the properties are unknown, volatile, corrosive substances. any questions?

i didn't think so.

damn son.

im just saying,

please don't do meth.

[thcbongman]

Do you want someone coming up to you, please don't smoke weed? Cmon, i'm not denying any damage meth would cause to one in the long term, but in the short-term it's ridiculous, other than loss sleep, and anxiety. Your mere opinion on you shouldn't try meth it's bad, is no different than some idiot coming up to you and saying "don't smoke weed, because it gets you stoned, and it's a waste of money." Personally I tried meth a couple of times, and I didn't enjoy it either time.

I'm sure you'll be speaking to a choir in the lounge.

[andruejaysin]

Yes, meth will destroy your brain. My long term use is the reason I am incapable of holding a coherent conversation on any subject. Certainly the ease of manufacture gives easy access to morons, they then do what morons will do given easy access to any drug save pot, they fuck themselves up. Darwin at work.

[tokinggreg]

Heather I completely agree with you that meth is terrible. Because it is all chemicals, it is purposely made to be highly addictive and completely unnatural. However, realize that the only people that will heed your advice are people who already believe what you do. Those who wish to try meth are probably going to try meth whether you make a thread condoning it or rebuking it.
-Greg

[siSTARindigo]

i honestly dont believe people are ARGUING about this.

meth is a fucking EPIDEMIC. it's poised to take over the fucking world. you're an idiot. i know i'm no one. i'm hoping that by taking a few steps to open people's eyes, maybe i'll make some sort of a difference.

this is ridiculous. make up your own minds. but this shit is polluting our society and it's not stopping anytime soon.

do whatever the fuck you want.


I agree with you completely. This is something I have dealt with on a first hand basis. More than just, like all of my old friends, but through employment with a state agency. I didn't mention it before because I am in no way bragging. That was the worst job I have ever had. But it isn't even JUST the crap in this drug. When someone goes off the deep end on it, which happend 95% of the time, the go WAY off the deep end. And these people breed like mad, a condom being the last thing on their minds, use during their pregnacies creating meth babies (which I have seen them. They have seizures, and their lungs colapse and stuff from withdrawl). And then these kids are in un-livable enviroments. Not to mention the lab being a HUGE danger to those kids.

It is an epidemic. The "crank" that people were doing 20 years ago is not the same as this stuff out today. And this a very new drug. We know what people who have smoked pot for 50 years look like. We don't know what meth does to us in the long haul. You know the tingly feeling in your hair? Those are your brain cells sizzling away by the second. People will be in a home, unable to care forthemselves after many years. Not to mention the depletion of bone density, and mass. Wasting syndrome.

I would lay my life down now to be able to get rid of this thing comptely. If meth hasn't touched your life very seriously, it will soon. Someone you love will be destroyed by it. It happens with alcohol, it damn sure happens on meth, 500 fold.

Heather, your heart is in the right place. Keep marching sistar!! Yes I do smoke, and I have even done meth, Maybe 5 times or so? I've done did it all (almost) years ago, bach when it was crank, which it's WAY more potent now. I have lost some enamel off the inside of my top back molars. And seriously, I only did it a few times YEARS ago. I have never had a cavity, so loosing enamal had to have been that.

Look at how these meth heads look, no teeth. Like the living dead, zombies. If it is doing that to the outside of your body imagine what it is doing to the inside.

I am with you girl, it's bad shit!

Eva

[siSTARindigo]

I also wanted to point out that the town I live in is covered with the shit. People I hang with aren't into it. And we can't find bud!! You could probably score meth by picking up someone random walking, but even the biggest dealers here never have the green, just the white.

It is a fucking discusting drug, and habit.

Eva

[CocaCola]

Why don't we just put all the meth heads on their own island?

Seriously, you know how many threads we've had concerning this subject? Cocaine/Heroin/Meth is baaad!1 We know that it's addictive and that people get hooked and we know that it's composed of a bunch of shit, but you know what? Everyone knows and they still do it... so what is this going to do? Repeating the same stuff that's been said and forcing to explain again that... people who have had their lives or families lives ruined because of a Meth addiction, abused it. There is no way you can try it once and not ever try it again, no possible way, so it's your fault for thinking you could get away with smoking Meth habitually; one of the most well known drugs and one that is well known to be the most dangerous drug. I've tried it and I have ADD... and I've haven't tried it since.

[Savako]

There is a "safer" way of doing meth and lemme tell you :),

Smoking is by far the most toxic it eneter your blood strem the fastest and fucks you up alot more and I know since I do meth and wont stop because someone told me it wasnt safe.. we all know it isnt, just try your best not to smoke the shit.

SNorting is the second dangerous but since it doesnt enter your blood strem as fast and doesnt necessarily come into contact with your teeth physical but since people think your teeth canals are linked to your nostrils so I doubt it.

Slamming it is the third dangerous method.

Oral is the safest and last of the dangerous methods but people say this method lacks a good high but it is still far safer. :thumbsup:

BTW there is a way to not quit meth, I know people my father for example has been 30 years clean, he quit. :thumbsup:

[robert42]

durr!

[bedake]

Heather I completely agree with you that meth is terrible. Because it is all chemicals, it is purposely made to be highly addictive and completely unnatural.
-Greg



Just wanted to inform you, all drugs are chemicals, when you strip shrooms down all it is is a compound made up of things like carbon, hydrogen and nitrogen, molecules....

but yea not disagreeing with you i just hate when people think one drug is good because its "natural" and instead of being made of chemicals its made of "holy mana from god or something" not that you said that but yea, you get the point.

[Savako]

durr!

Come on :mad:

[Toothpick]

Just wanted to inform you, all drugs are chemicals, when you strip shrooms down all it is is a compound made up of things like carbon, hydrogen and nitrogen, molecules....

but yea not disagreeing with you i just hate when people think one drug is good because its "natural" and instead of being made of chemicals its made of "holy mana from god or something" not that you said that but yea, you get the point.
Their is a difference the natural shit isnt synthesized and for some reason the synthesized shit seems to be badder for yah.

[smoke ranger]

what did you think this thread was gonna accomplish??? its a drug site, what did you expect???

[GanjaBob]

I have two friends who tried meth about a year ago and they said it was fun and they havent even felt the urge to try it again.

[Not Enough Herb]

what the hell is wrong with everyone on this board. Wheres Nullific when u need him?

Ive done meth, and its not really all its hyped up to be, probly because i didnt do enough. Herion is not a bad drug. Im not down for shooting it up, but theres other ways of taking it, like snorting or smoking. If youve done morphine or any high level opiate pain killer, youve gotten a taste of herion.

Dont bash drugs uve never done, because that makes u an ignorant prick. Learn and experince these drugs, then you can say what you want

later

[smoke ranger]

what the hell is wrong with everyone on this board. Wheres Nullific when u need him?

Ive done meth, and its not really all its hyped up to be, probly because i didnt do enough. Herion is not a bad drug. Im not down for shooting it up, but theres other ways of taking it, like snorting or smoking. If youve done morphine or any high level opiate pain killer, youve gotten a taste of herion.

Dont bash drugs uve never done, because that makes u an ignorant prick. Learn and experince these drugs, then you can say what you want

later
now Im not a fan of any kind of speed, but I completely agree with the premise here...everyone goes balls to the walls anymore, they dont take it for what its worth...enjoy it, its the experience thats worth it

[heatherhatesyou]

I agree with you completely. This is something I have dealt with on a first hand basis. More than just, like all of my old friends, but through employment with a state agency. I didn't mention it before because I am in no way bragging. That was the worst job I have ever had. But it isn't even JUST the crap in this drug. When someone goes off the deep end on it, which happend 95% of the time, the go WAY off the deep end. And these people breed like mad, a condom being the last thing on their minds, use during their pregnacies creating meth babies (which I have seen them. They have seizures, and their lungs colapse and stuff from withdrawl). And then these kids are in un-livable enviroments. Not to mention the lab being a HUGE danger to those kids.

It is an epidemic. The "crank" that people were doing 20 years ago is not the same as this stuff out today. And this a very new drug. We know what people who have smoked pot for 50 years look like. We don't know what meth does to us in the long haul. You know the tingly feeling in your hair? Those are your brain cells sizzling away by the second. People will be in a home, unable to care forthemselves after many years. Not to mention the depletion of bone density, and mass. Wasting syndrome.

I would lay my life down now to be able to get rid of this thing comptely. If meth hasn't touched your life very seriously, it will soon. Someone you love will be destroyed by it. It happens with alcohol, it damn sure happens on meth, 500 fold.

Heather, your heart is in the right place. Keep marching sistar!! Yes I do smoke, and I have even done meth, Maybe 5 times or so? I've done did it all (almost) years ago, bach when it was crank, which it's WAY more potent now. I have lost some enamel off the inside of my top back molars. And seriously, I only did it a few times YEARS ago. I have never had a cavity, so loosing enamal had to have been that.

Look at how these meth heads look, no teeth. Like the living dead, zombies. If it is doing that to the outside of your body imagine what it is doing to the inside.

I am with you girl, it's bad shit!

Eva


EXACTLY.

i'm not just talking out of my ass, here. tons of my friends have become meth addicts. obviously there are tons of other terrible drugs out there that will get you addicted. what i'm arguing here is that meth is the WORST. and it's so readily available, you make it under the kitchen sink after all, that it's starting to get sold to kids. dumb fucking kids that don't know what they're doing. two towns away from me, in lowell, they're installing a METH CLINIC IN THE HIGH SCHOOL.

i think one of the most important points i'm trying to make is that meth isn't one of those drugs that you can argue "oh, i have the power of autonomy, no one should tell me what i can and cant do if it doesn't hurt anybody". this shit DOES hurt other people, as the multitude of reports about the environmental damage that meth labs cause begin to come to life. there's no way to nessicarily TELL if your house was used as a meth lab, so innocent people are moving into contaminated houses and getting severe health problems as a result. THIS DRUG HURTS OTHER PEOPLE. not to mention the fact that it hurts families, children especially, but this can be said of plenty of drugs.

the bottom line is, if you guys do meth, they're gonna keep making it. there's gonna be more and more labs popping up left and right, supplying the leigons of addicts who are slaves to the fucking drug. sure, you could try meth and never try it again. but most people don't. it's cheap, easily accessible, and a super addictive high. i honestly am fearful for our society if it doesn't get stopped.

like i said, i'm not here to judge. i'm not here to say that you're a bad person if you smoke meth. i'm not here to try and tell people what to do. i'm simply trying to inform people of things they might not realize. i guess what i'm really trying to do is save my fucking friends. my friends! my friends are smoking sudafed and battery acid and there's nothing i can do about it.

that shit is pretty fucked up.

so, in conclusion,

please. don't. do. meth.

[Ganjasaurusrex]

http://meth.thesunlink.com

click on stories/images on the left. Everything you want to know.

[smoke ranger]

http://meth.thesunlink.com

click on stories/images on the left. Everything you want to know.
that site could be made about any drug my friend

[andruejaysin]

Smartass comments aside, meth is neither safe or an evil drug from hell. It's what you make of it. All drugs should be used with caution and respect, this one more than most.

[Savako]

Yeah when I first did meth I didnt think much of it but after many times of doing it it becomes a habit and addiction regardless of how good or bad it is luckily I still dont feel addicted to it but wouldnt mind doing it now and then.

[LordRuffleMontgomery]

I've done meth a couple of times before, it was relatively entertaining, although I had a few chest pain type things, and didn't really like the synthetic feel. I enjoy speed much more, however I can see the appeal that meth holds. It's all about self-control, no drugs are inherently evil, it's all dependent on the user.

[bedake]

I've done meth a couple of times before, it was relatively entertaining, although I had a few chest pain type things, and didn't really like the synthetic feel. I enjoy speed much more, however I can see the appeal that meth holds. It's all about self-control, no drugs are inherently evil, it's all dependent on the user.


um... if meth isnt speed, what is?

[LordRuffleMontgomery]

Meth is a much more impure form of speed, it's comparable to crack and cocaine, being that the chemical structure of speed is similar to meth, however is not the same. I've also never heard of meth in a pill form, which is the way I typically take speed. I find speed to be more utilitarian than anything, if I don't have enought time to fall asleep or have lots of work to do, it fixes it right up.

[bedake]

Meth is a much more impure form of speed, it's comparable to crack and cocaine, being that the chemical structure of speed is similar to meth, however is not the same. I've also never heard of meth in a pill form, which is the way I typically take speed. I find speed to be more utilitarian than anything, if I don't have enought time to fall asleep or have lots of work to do, it fixes it right up.

you must be talking about amphetamines? speed is a general term for both amphetamines and methamphetamine i always thought cause there certainly is not a drug simply called speed, i mean erowid even has meth listed as speed

[kobeite]

Bedake, the reason why everyone is making a stink about meth and not H is because first of all you are wrong when you say H is worse than meth, trust me the effects of meth on the body physically and mentally are probably worse than H. Meth is also the fastest growing drug in America currently and the most popular choice of drug between the ages of 13 - 35! It is SWEEPING the nation and I only pray it doens't ravage my city.
It is a DANGEROUS drug. Do you know that the police have to raid meth labs wearing fucking space suits. The consequences of meth addiciton are brutal, it is not a drug that is used recreationally because the rate at which you can get addicted to this drug is relatively high.

[bedake]

Bedake, the reason why everyone is making a stink about meth and not H is because first of all you are wrong when you say H is worse than meth, trust me the effects of meth on the body physically and mentally are probably worse than H. Meth is also the fastest growing drug in America currently and the most popular choice of drug between the ages of 13 - 35! It is SWEEPING the nation and I only pray it doens't ravage my city.
It is a DANGEROUS drug. Do you know that the police have to raid meth labs wearing fucking space suits. The consequences of meth addiciton are brutal, it is not a drug that is used recreationally because the rate at which you can get addicted to this drug is relatively high.


ok i realize now that meth is worse than H, come to think about it i hear MUCH more negative remarks and horror stories about meth than H, but whered you hear that meth is the drug of choice for that age group, i always thought marijuana has been at the tops unchallenged

[LordRuffleMontgomery]

you must be talking about amphetamines? speed is a general term for both amphetamines and methamphetamine i always thought cause there certainly is not a drug simply called speed, i mean erowid even has meth listed as speed

Ah, I guess it's just a slang thing, around here only amphetamines are referred to as speed.

[andruejaysin]

Bedake, the reason why everyone is making a stink about meth and not H is because first of all you are wrong when you say H is worse than meth, trust me the effects of meth on the body physically and mentally are probably worse than H. Meth is also the fastest growing drug in America currently and the most popular choice of drug between the ages of 13 - 35! It is SWEEPING the nation and I only pray it doens't ravage my city.
It is a DANGEROUS drug. Do you know that the police have to raid meth labs wearing fucking space suits. The consequences of meth addiciton are brutal, it is not a drug that is used recreationally because the rate at which you can get addicted to this drug is relatively high.
They don't need to wear spacesuits, they just think it looks cool. The cooks never seem to have one. But you're right, much harder on the body than H. On the other hand, withdrawls are nowhere near as bad, and it's harder to OD on. If it were possible to make herion or cocaine in your garage you would no dought have all the same problems. Recent laws restricting pseudofed sales will largely eliminate small meth labs. Not that it matters, the Mexican drug cartels are waiting to fill the void. Tweak all you want, gringo, we'll smuggle more.

[Savako]

Well no H is by far more dangerous very nasty stuff. Meth is veyr bad yes but I know more people the age of 55 that has done meth for 44 years look absolutely healthy than H the age of 60 having done H fo r more than 30 years be so fucked up its hard to even look at them. Meth is also speed since its just like amps but much more intense and euphorical thats why meth was made.. it was to replace something weaker by the japs.

[CocaCola]

There is no argument... why shouldn't people be able to responsibily use a drug and not get addicted? I've done it and others have done it... my dad was addicted to Speed and he got off of it long ago. You're spouting a bunch of bullshit... you're friends got addicted because they abused the drug.

[kobeite]

I didn't mean space suits LITERALLY, but YES they do have to wear a protective suit when the raid these places becuase of the highly combustible chemicals that are involved in making meth. And yes, there have been horrible, horrible accidents that meth makers have endured due to the lack of protective gear when in the process on making meth.
Can you imagine taking a drug that is cut w/ Draino and bleach and whatever else synthetic chemicals that shit's made of... imagine going days without sleeping how unnatural and fucked up that is. It is PATHETIC that the govermment is taking the time to crack down on MJ users rather than meth users. Don't expect a stoner to try speed, it's meth that's the killer.

[bedake]

I didn't mean space suits LITERALLY, but YES they do have to wear a protective suit when the raid these places becuase of the highly combustible chemicals that are involved in making meth. And yes, there have been horrible, horrible accidents that meth makers have endured due to the lack of protective gear when in the process on making meth.
Can you imagine taking a drug that is cut w/ Draino and bleach and whatever else synthetic chemicals that shit's made of... imagine going days without sleeping how unnatural and fucked up that is. It is PATHETIC that the govermment is taking the time to crack down on MJ users rather than meth users. Don't expect a stoner to try speed, it's meth that's the killer.


it seems like every week the cops here are busting meth labs, i live in a town of like 10,000 small ass town with neighboring villages of like 1000, those other small towns by us are where they are cooking meth, one meth lab was in the basement when they ran a babysitting job in the upstairs, its really fucked up around here with meth and heroin. strange too since i live in a rural community

[motorcycletony222]

i'm not just talking out of my ass, here. - heatherhatesyou

I think you are, and your a hypocrite. Maybe when you get out of school and join the rest of us in the real world you will open your eyes. Dont listen to all the propaganda the government and news media put out. Your numbers in various post are incorrect, when you put numbers out there try to validate them. More people die from alcohol than all the rest added up together. Period. Ask the captain of the Exxon Valdeaz what the worst drug is.

[heatherhatesyou]

i'm not just talking out of my ass, here. - heatherhatesyou

I think you are, and your a hypocrite. Maybe when you get out of school and join the rest of us in the real world you will open your eyes. Dont listen to all the propaganda the government and news media put out. Your numbers in various post are incorrect, when you put numbers out there try to validate them. More people die from alcohol than all the rest added up together. Period. Ask the captain of the Exxon Valdeaz what the worst drug is.

a) I'd consider myself part of the real world, thanks.

b) this isn't government propaganda at all. it's facts. i wrote a research paper on meth and meth abuse for a sociology class and never went to a government sponsored website. i looked at statistics, news articles, and erowid.

c) i didn't post any numbers so i don't know what you're talking about.

d) yes, alcohol is the biggest killer. it's also legal.


you're an idiot.

[heatherhatesyou]

furthermore,

don't do meth.

regards,

heather

[CocaCola]

Blah blah fucking blah... people who get addicted are idiots. Now fuck off... you fucking pod.

[motorcycletony222]

I agree I'm a idoit, I believe my ex-wife would agree too. I should have said facts not numbers. Like herion is plants, right, with kerosene and HCl mixed in. Look at a bottle of aspirin, most meds we take end with either HCl or Sulfate. Thats the way meds are made and speed too, but not with battery acid, thats H2SO4, HCl is used, thats the acid thats found in everyones stomach. So please before you do your next big paper try and get the right facts.

[thcbongman]

furthermore,

don't do meth.

regards,

heather

You said that like 10 times already.

Most people say that.

But you know what? People still do meth. It doesn't change a thing.

[CocaCola]

Most people don't know how the drug works so they don't know what the fuck to do with themselfs on it. Like Ecstasy... people take like three pills to get effects because they aren't dancing around like a bunch of fruits on one but that isn't even the point. I bet a lot of people haven't even tried just taking one proper pure pill and just hanging out with one or two friends and talking all night, playing music on our instruments or on the stereo. Most people compltely miss the point of MDMA and thats why they get burnt out... "YO! UH! I'm rolling three triple stacks plus I snorted half another pill 20 minutes ago and OOOH I feel grreat!1" What a bunch of morons.

People miss the point of Meth also, and they make some fucked up habit of using and then they get fucked in several different ways. But the use of Meth is really like using Ritalin only stronger... but it has basically the same purpose. I can fix clocks and radios and shit on Meth... I can play crazy shit on Meth. I've only done it twice. MONTHS AGO!

Heather, you need a laxative for that bullshit spouting from your yap.

[bedake]

Most people don't know how the drug works so they don't know what the fuck to do with themselfs on it. Like Ecstasy... people take like three pills to get effects because they aren't dancing around like a bunch of fruits on one but that isn't even the point. I bet a lot of people haven't even tried just taking one proper pure pill and just hanging out with one or two friends and talking all night, playing music on our instruments or on the stereo. Most people compltely miss the point of MDMA and thats why they get burnt out... "YO! UH! I'm rolling three triple stacks plus I snorted half another pill 20 minutes ago and OOOH I feel grreat!1" What a bunch of morons.

People miss the point of Meth also, and they make some fucked up habit of using and then they get fucked in several different ways. But the use of Meth is really like using Ritalin only stronger... but it has basically the same purpose. I can fix clocks and radios and shit on Meth... I can play crazy shit on Meth. I've only done it twice. MONTHS AGO!

Heather, you need a laxative for that bullshit spouting from your yap.




YES!!!!!!! exactly!!!!

[Myth1184]

its called Addiction

[siSTARindigo]

It doesn't matter how you do it, it all goes to the same place. HOW the drug is done only affects how long it takes for you to feel it. It splits nerve endings in your brain, causing brain damage ;)

Here is another FACT about how meth is cooked. Lye, the number 1 pollutant, also linked to breast cancer, is used. They take sudefed and cook it with stuff like lye. The fumes are so deadly that if you get a wif, you die within seconds. I have seen pictures of dead people who were trying to leave the room. They saw the fumes, turned around to leave, and died within seconds. And then another person in the room saw that 1st person drop, turned around to run and died. You could see this in their positions.

If you are smoking meth, and it is liquid, it will burn right through your skin. I know smoking heroin is bad, but heroin won't burn through your skin. Acid does that.

Call it Goverment propaganda if you want, have you ever seen the movie Reefer Madness? If you haven't, then you haven't seen propaganda. What I saw were real live pictures of dead people, right next to their meth lab.

Eva

[siSTARindigo]

You said that like 10 times already.

Most people say that.

But you know what? People still do meth. It doesn't change a thing.

When you see people you love destroy themselves, young and old, It just becomes one of those things, It makes her feel better she's said it. So in a way it is changing things, because it makes her feel like she IS doing something instead of sitting idle and watching this.

Who cares, either people will listen, or they won't. But maybe just one 14 year old on here will think twice when it is offered. That alone is worth it.

Eva

[LordRuffleMontgomery]

Do you honestly believe that people do meth because it sucks and is going to kill them? People, myself included, did meth because we're intrigued in expanding our minds and experimenting with our very conciousness. I personally didn't take to kindly to meth, I'll stick to amps myself, however anyone has a right to do the substance, and some even can achieve psychological benefits. It's all about knowing one's self and strong will power, if one have both of these traits it's highly unlikely one will become an addicted. It's just a matter of cost/benefit analysis.

[siSTARindigo]

Do you honestly believe that people do meth because it sucks and is going to kill them? People, myself included, did meth because we're intrigued in expanding our minds and experimenting with our very conciousness. I personally didn't take to kindly to meth, I'll stick to amps myself, however anyone has a right to do the substance, and some even can achieve psychological benefits. It's all about knowing one's self and strong will power, if one have both of these traits it's highly unlikely one will become an addicted. It's just a matter of cost/benefit analysis.

It still causes brain damage....:rolleyes:

But whatever, as long as your not an addict, right?

Eva

[TheSanityAssassin]

*sighs* I don't even know where to start.

Meth should not have draino, or battery acid, or any chemicals in it other than methamphetamine hydrochlride. Yes, many of the chemicals used to synthesize meth are flammable and/or toxic, but none of them should make it into the final product. Most perscription drugs were likely synthesized usng some chemicals that are toxic.

Methapmphetamine is stronger than amphetmine due to the the addition of a methyl group, which makes it harder for your body to break down the drug, so it sticks around longer.

Amphetamines in general are quite harsh on your body. They cause your body to burn stored energy, while preventing it from doing the things it needs to do to replenish that energy, like eating and sleeping.

Heroin is very easy on your body, the drug it's self is no more harmful than weed. The problem lies it's stong potential for addiction, and the lifestyle most people once they become addicted.

[siSTARindigo]

Thank you....VERY well said.

Meth shouldn't have those things in it, but those things are very hard to get out of it. And the people making this shit could care less.


Eva

[CocaCola]

Heroin halts the natural production of Endorphins(sp) in your body. It's not easy... it's rather harsh. If you abuse it.

Meth's dangerous toxic ingredients are broken down and only certain parts of these toxins are used. And also if you don't use often then you won't get brain damage... for christ sakes... only the few of you have been blathering on while the rest of us have been telling you that we've used and we're fine. You guys are so brainwashed.

[siSTARindigo]

For your information, I've used. About a total of 6 times. And I am fine also. But I have major depression (dysthymic dysorder), and anxiety(panic attacks, I've lost 20 pounds in 1 week before puking in the middle of the night from anxiety). And I have tooth damage, on more than one tooth.

I am older now, on the outside looking in, with experience. And now I know things I didn't know when I had used. That would be the point of this topic, to tell youngn's like yourself (17?) that it is bad shit.

I know people who have used horribley, and some who have used moderately. And they are all equally as fucked up, and dramatic. No money, horrible skin, bad teeth. Think about it, I swear to god that 6 times affected me.... forever. If you don't believe the depression and anxiety part, then believe the teeth part. Because I am in my mid 20's and I am missing enamel off my teeth, never had a cavity. And there was a bit of a brown spot starting.

Think what you want, It's still bad shit. Facts are facts, opinions are just that. And opinions not based on facts are ignorant ones :)

Eva

[siSTARindigo]

And also if you don't use often then you won't get brain damage... for christ sakes... only the few of you have been blathering on while the rest of us have been telling you that we've used and we're fine. You guys are so brainwashed.

Again, I have used. And due to the spliting of nerve endings I have major depression and anxiety. Someone else also mentioned that they had also used, and can't even hold a conversation due to braindamage...for christ sakes!

Eva

[CocaCola]

I didn't know you've used but regardless... 6 times? In a span of how long?

I've used twice and I'm completely healthy. No anxiety or depression... so what gives? Maybe you did to much Meth?

The fact of the matter is... whatever bullshit you spout... it's YOUR fault for using and 6 times is more then enough to cause some "damage", although it couldn't possibly be that bad. But whatever... if you feel that Meth contributed to or even caused that "damage" then go right ahead. I can't say what is what... I don't know you. But I could guess that you abused it and you fucked yourself.

[CocaCola]

Yes, meth will destroy your brain. My long term use is the reason I am incapable of holding a coherent conversation on any subject.

How many times must I say it?

[siSTARindigo]

I did it once in about 2000, twice in 2001, and 3 times in 2004.

The reason I didn't like meth is I have a high metabolism, and I don't sleep well, or have much of an appetite ever. Meth just aggrevated those things obviously. Pot helps those things. Off a little bit I would be up for days. I hurt my arm once cleaning walls. I couldn't eat for days. I was lucky, I got away from it before it became a problem.

Eva

[CocaCola]

If you didn't like it, why did you do it? And if you usually can't sleep or eat, why did you even consider it? Especially for a second time... why?

[siSTARindigo]

The fact of the matter is... whatever bullshit you spout... it's YOUR fault for using and 6 times is more then enough to cause some "damage",

I am not on here for sypathy over my stupid actions. I am here to tell people about the dangers. Is it bad for you or not, because now 6 times is more than enough to cause some damage Six times is nothing. I know people who haven't a clue how many times they've done it. And they job hop, loose their kids to DFS, go to jail for forgery, fail UA after UA, Go to jail, and rehab, and jail, and rehab. People who tatoo crap on themselves like WHITETRASH across their bear belly. Now that they are clean they are embaressed of that.

You don't want to hear what we have to say, the BOO! Go away if this stuff scares you. Maybe you like the shit more than you think, and your trying to justify your own use.

Just so you know, the zombie cracked out look isn't sexy to anyone unless they want to share your drugs ;)

Eva

[CocaCola]

I'm not interested in using because I satisfied my curiousity about Meth's effects. Now hopefully you see our point...

Like I said, people get into the habit of using and they fuck themselves. Like Jesus, that's ALL I've been saying... still can't get through though?

Why would this scare anyone? It's not scary... it's funny, watching you guys ramble on like a dare commercial, except it's even funnier because you're trying to warn people about the dangers of METH. Everyone should know this stuff before they use or else it's their own stupid fault.

[siSTARindigo]

If you didn't like it, why did you do it? And if you usually can't sleep or eat, why did you even consider it? Especially for a second time... why?

The first 3 times were before my son. I would've done anything you put in front of me as long as I didn't pay for it. I had snorted it, and it was "crank" not meth, if there much of a difference.

The last 3 times, my hubby and I were going through some thing, a crack head friend moved to town, and met a dealer. I was over there and they were smoking it, I thought what the heck. I had never smoked it. And It felt GOOD that first time. Then I couldn't sleep all night, so I did some more the next day, and couldn't sleep all night, did some more so I could function with my 3 year old on no sleep. My hubby got wind of what was up, we had a fight, he hit me with a door I was trying to shut on him, and I punched him in the nose. He called the cops, I went to jail. We worked it out, my friend went way down hill from there and moved away, pregnate (3rd kid, she's 24) by this 45 year old dealer who is now in the pen.

Long story short. Drugs are adictive for a reason, they feel good, at first. Then they become necessary.

Eva

[CocaCola]

That's when you say no and stop. But you needed to be hit by a door to realize that. Not that it's a bad thing... it needed to happen, didn't it?

[siSTARindigo]

Why would this scare anyone? It's not scary... it's funny, watching you guys ramble on like a dare commercial, except it's even funnier because you're trying to warn people about the dangers of METH. Everyone should know this stuff before they use or else it's their own stupid fault.

Facts are scary. I think that there should be a class on meth in highschool. Hopefully it will scare the crap out of them.

And so since everyone should know these things before they use, or it is their own stupid fault. Then who is the stupid one, the person educated on the harful effects advocating it, or the insecure kid that just wants to fit in.

Whatever man, Brain damage is brain damage however slight. I am not going to argue with a teenager about drugs, not really the point of my comming in here. Fact is, let Heather say what she wants. If you don't want to hear it, don't read it. The subject was pretty clear.

Eva

[siSTARindigo]

That's when you say no and stop. But you needed to be hit by a door to realize that. Not that it's a bad thing... it needed to happen, didn't it?

Absolutely. I shutter to think where I would have been had he not freaked out the way he did. We are amazing now, I am very healthy. And I am now on the outside looking in. That is why I say from experience, these people who use don't have a clue. They are in their own world.

Still happily married, no more issues. Point proven......

Eva

[CocaCola]

I'm not advocating anything. Once again you're being stupid. I never said DO Meth! It's fun! That insecure kid needs to stop being such a pussy...

Me being 17 has nothing to do with anything so nevermind how old I am... I didn't get caught between family and Meth. So who is the kid?

Heather can say what she wants and I can tell her that it's useless and it wouldn't help. She can ignore me as well... Seriously, you people are funny but you give me a headache.

But I am glad you guys are happy now and that you've grown up.

[siSTARindigo]

I'm not advocating anything. Once again you're being stupid. I never said DO Meth! It's fun! That insecure kid needs to stop being such a pussy...

Me being 17 has nothing to do with anything so nevermind how old I am... I didn't get caught between family and Meth. So who is the kid?

Heather can say what she wants and I can tell her that it's useless and it wouldn't help. She can ignore me as well... Seriously, you people are funny but you give me a headache.

But I am glad you guys are happy now.

Whose being stupid? Once again?? And being 17 has everything to do with it. You are showing your immaturity in having a converstion. Go take a Laxative or something :thumbsup:

And actually the fight was because I had been with a friend and he asked what we did, I said smoke a bowl, and he assumed it was meth when it was pot, because of the earlier week. And started the fight. So again, you don't have a clue ;)

You don't even get my life at all. My name isn't even Eva. But I will tell you this, I have been with my highschool sweetheart through it all. He had alcohol issues in the beginning which were just as bad as anything I did on any drug.

I don't know why I give you a headache unless I am making that burnt brain of your work on something other than a school paper.

[siSTARindigo]

Oh, and 3 of my 6 times were with my hubby, who is the first person I did it with. Again, part of the WHOLE story you don't know :)

[CocaCola]

I am showing my immaturity in having a conversation? Who is being stupid once again? Me? What was stupid? Seriously, can you even read BOTH posts or just yours? I never insisted I knew you, I even believe I stated that I didn't know you so I wouldn't be making any judgements... so what are you going on about? My burnt brain? You're now making the same assumptions that you were accusing me of making... and I never even made any assumptions in the first place, I only know about the stuff you mentioned in your posts. And I can tell that you're a pod. I thought maybe not, but you are... so I guess this conversation is over now. After all, only kids have conversations right?

[siSTARindigo]

Whatever a pod is.....

Your way of conversing, insulting people, calling them stupid, is immature, and stupid.

And your right, this coverstaion is over. You have nothing but insults to add here.

And calling me a methhead in a whole different forum is surely a judgment, and stupid, and again, immature.....

My assumtion about your burnt brain, was based on your burnt way of conversing. Again, very juvenile.

[CocaCola]

I tend to be a wank on the internet because I couldn't give two shits about what who when where why or how when I'm talking to some fucktard on the net. You're focusing too much on the supposed "insults" and less on what I'm trying to tell you. Oh yeah, and you like to drink fermented anal leakage.

[bedake]

Oh, and 3 of my 6 times were with my hubby, who is the first person I did it with. Again, part of the WHOLE story you don't know :)


i love the way british people talk hehehe hubby thats a funny word... look how immature im being wow, no but seriously im sure all americans find the word hubby funny, im having a weird day of hyperness, i seriously just got done doing tech support of instant messenger for someone and then setting another person up to use bit torrent all for free, bastards i shoulda charged them 1.99 for the first sexy minute of tech support and 3.99 for every sexy minute after that.... yea i better go to be

Shit i forgot!!! it was vicious day 6 days ago! damn it 6 days ago was Sid's death day and i forgot to buy him flowers god damn it im not going to forgive myself for a long time

[CocaCola]

Too hyper^

[LordRuffleMontgomery]

I've used meth before, and over six times (if I had to guess about ten), and I have absolutely no regrets over it, physical or mental; it's just a learning experience. I highly, highly doubt that you have that egregious problems from using six times over the course of three years, although you could've got some very bad stuff, it's all variable. I respect where you're coming from, however in my experience all forms of psychoactives are merely leaping pads into further exploring my mind and conciousness, and I'm never afraid to take a jump.

[siSTARindigo]

I've used meth before, and over six times (if I had to guess about ten), and I have absolutely no regrets over it, physical or mental; it's just a learning experience. I highly, highly doubt that you have that egregious problems from using six times over the course of three years, although you could've got some very bad stuff, it's all variable. I respect where you're coming from, however in my experience all forms of psychoactives are merely leaping pads into further exploring my mind and conciousness, and I'm never afraid to take a jump.

Thank you for being able to respect me. Respect is something everyone deserves, even if they are just a virtual person on a message board.

I agree to disagree with you. Wasn't that simple :)

Eva

[siSTARindigo]

i love the way british people talk hehehe hubby thats a funny word... look how immature im being wow, no but seriously im sure all americans find the word hubby funny, im having a weird day of hyperness,

Actually I am american (and very unproud to be), and my hubby calls me wifey :) I think it is sweet.

just goes to show you the miscoceptions people make off even one word.

Eva

[CocaCola]

Oh Jesus, would you let it go? Don't tell me everyone is going to have to suffer because you were offended. Oh everyone deserves respect!1 Even the virtual ones!1 LOL, oh God. It was simple for me to stop... here is what I did... *Shrug* There... and then I was cured.

And I suppose that you couldn't have made any misconception? You are saturated, and you need some Shrooms, not Meth.

[siSTARindigo]

Stopped what? Your still going. I haven't even responded to you. It is like your virtually chasing me around to call me a cry baby. How bout you take some of your own advice, shug and leave. I haven't been talking to you, so? vamoosh!! outta here, leave me alone.

[CocaCola]

You're even worse!1 You're indirectly going on about it... you're not really replying to one of my posts but you're quoting someone else and going on about respect and what not... hole let me get some quotes cause this is gold!
And stay outta spirtual cause that's my forum baby@!1

[siSTARindigo]

Get quotes, I didn't mention your name. You went into a discussion I have been in for a long time now and called me a meth head! But I am worse, your right, I am wrong. Is that what baby wants to hear??

And real spiritual, telling someone to stay out of there cause it's your territory. BABY, BABY, BABY!

[CocaCola]

Then you get the mouthy ones, who is actually arguing that meth isn't bad unless you "abuse" it. Not that that had anything to do with this converstaion. Some of the mouthy ones have such a huge ego, they just can't let it go, and resort to getting you with a stupid spelling error, or name calling. I guess that is what I get for trying to have and adult conversation with a KID who already does meth.

*sigh*

Even disappearing is better than leaving looking like a fool by saying "your stupid, and a meth head"

Eva


As far as changing eachothers mind, I don't care to do that. I think things can be discussed without being condesending. I can have attitude, but I have refrained from saying some things in this bored that I have been thinking. That comes with maturity, and age.

Eva

In this one^ you even quoted YOURSELF to get your message across to me. C'mon, babe... don't be like that.

[CocaCola]

Get quotes, I didn't mention your name. You went into a discussion I have been in for a long time now and called me a meth head! But I am worse, your right, I am wrong. Is that what baby wants to hear??
I've posted not long after you, in this thread and the thread in Spiritual. I told you why I called you Methhead, and since it clearly offended you (I posted it even before any arguments started here) I apologized. And now because you're upset, I have to stay away from you? Block me, or deal with me.

[siSTARindigo]

And? Still no name. Not sladerous, or malicious unless I come right out with it.

Anything else, son?

[siSTARindigo]

I've posted not long after you, in this thread and the thread in Spiritual. I told you why I called you Methhead, and since it clearly offended you (I posted it even before any arguments started here) I apologized. And now because you're upset, I have to stay away from you? Block me, or deal with me.

You don't have to do anything. But stalking me on here, and refuting every little thing just makes you look dumb. So whatever, rock on with your bad self :thumbsup:

[CocaCola]

I'm not trying to prove anything to anyone else other then you... you're clouded but you have potential... now if you could juuust give me your number I can help.

yes it's true... I'm stalking you11

[siSTARindigo]

Oh, now this is interesting, I have potential. For what exactly? Just curious, that one came out of nowhere, but most of your comments have, so I guess I shouldn't be suprised :)

You want my number, baby?? 303-607-7527

I seriously dare you to call me.....

[CocaCola]

But then if I called you, that would establish me as an actual stalker, so I'm not really gonna try although I might have if you didn't accuse me of stalking you in the first place. =( Plus, hubby will yell at me!1

But yes, you have potential... potential for what EXACTLY, I don't know... but you're smart, so you obviously have potential for something. You just need to realize when someone is trying to help or relate, without taking offence. It's stupid to take offence from my comments cause I'm just talking alot of bullshit to bug you. Sure, I called you a methhead. But I didn't know you actually did Meth before, so it was just a joke. And then you called me on it and I apologized when I had learned that you have done it before. I didn't feel bad about it, I just had to apologize... because it was wrong, what I said. I was in the wrong... but I was only in the wrong when I had learned that you had done Meth. Why take offence if I didn't know? Think about it. I didn't mean anything by it... and if you're going to give me "you're 17 and immature, and I take offence to your immaturity" then you've still got some growing up to do, yourself.

[siSTARindigo]

But then if I called you, that would establish me as an actual stalker, so I'm not really gonna try although I might have if you didn't accuse me of stalking you in the first place. =( Plus, hubby will yell at me!1

But yes, you have potential... potential for what EXACTLY, I don't know... but you're smart, so you obviously have potential for something. You just need to realize when someone is trying to help or relate, without taking offence. It's stupid to take offence from my comments cause I'm just talking alot of bullshit to bug you. Sure, I called you a methhead. But I didn't know you actually did Meth before, so it was just a joke. And then you called me on it and I apologized when I had learned that you have done it before. I didn't feel bad about it, I just had to apologize... because it was wrong, what I said. I was in the wrong... but I was only in the wrong when I had learned that you had done Meth. Why take offence if I didn't know? Think about it. I didn't mean anything by it... and if you're going to give me "you're 17 and immature, and I take offence to your immaturity" then you've still got some growing up to do, yourself.

Hubby is at work, and where did your big balls go anyways? Pussy, I dare you to call.....

I take offense about the meth because you brought it into another board. It isn't something I am proud of, and it was info I shared to let you know that I do KNOW what it is, I was trying to relate. And wether or not you knew I'd done it or not, It wasn't nice. And don't apologize if you aren't sorry. Say what you mean and mean what you say. But I wonder why you aren't sorry, although you clearly admit you shouldn't have done it? And how exactcly were you helpping or relating by saying those things?

And the whole 17 thing? I was 17 not very long ago. I am literally a whole different person in only 7 years. My tastes have changed, my religious beliefs have changed, my life has changed. I was 17 once to, and thought I knew it all. The older you get, the more you realize, you don't have a clue. At first I wasn't trying to bash your age. But your comments just got to the point where your age was all I could figure such a no it all attitude would come from.

[motorcycletony222]

Hey Star chick, your stupid., that is if you think people died the way you described. I've seen real dead ones, not in pictures, and I've been around chemicals and I have not been struck dead. Go back to school and stop believing everything you see on the internet. The lye thing you said is incorrect, you use lye everyday if you use soap, yes soap is made from lye.

[CocaCola]

I do mean what I say when it comes to that apology. When I call you a cunt, I don't. I wasn't helping or relating to your meth problem when I said those things... I was relating the the Meth THREAD. Forget the other thread for a second... I meant what I said in THIS thread. And age has nothing to do with anything... I'm not naive or a know it all, or whatever you think... I'm just like you... or anyone else, regardless of my age. I'm talking to you like I would talk to myself... now this is where you decide... do you ignore me? Or do you listen? It's all up to you.

[siSTARindigo]

Hey motorcycle dude! Actually all of my products come from melaleuca, a naturals company. That is how I know about Lye being the #1 pollutant. And My hubby is an industrial fire fighter, so he has helpped clean these places (including bodies), and taken many classes on the subject. I also worked for a state agency briefly, taking classes. Also, my mom takes picture of meth labs, and dead people and stuff, for the police department. So she has also seen actual bodies. And I have seen actual pictures.

And your stupid for calling another person stupid. Damn, are we 5?

[CocaCola]

But you just did yourself. Not that it's a bad thing (Actually it's good) but according to your logic, you're an idiot.

[siSTARindigo]

I do mean what I say when it comes to that apology. When I call you a cunt, I don't. I wasn't helping or relating to your meth problem when I said those things... I was relating the the Meth THREAD. Forget the other thread for a second... I meant what I said in THIS thread. And age has nothing to do with anything... I'm not naive or a know it all, or whatever you think... I'm just like you... or anyone else, regardless of my age. I'm talking to you like I would talk to myself... now this is where you decide... do you ignore me? Or do you listen? It's all up to you.

You must have called the number :p
You sound a little mad :D

And doing any drug 6 times through a span of 4 years is hardly a problem. Specially since I haven't touched the stuff, and done everything to detear people from it since 3 years or so.

Anyways, by baby......

[CocaCola]

Now that's what I like to see! Don't take my bullshit! :D

[siSTARindigo]

But you just did yourself. Not that it's a bad thing (Actually it's good) but according to your logic, you're an idiot.

I know you know what sarcasm is....but I would have pulled that card to. Since we are going by my logic now, you are also an idiot. Congrats!

[CocaCola]

Yep, and I'm not denying that. Everyone is a fucking idiot. That's the beauty of it...

[siSTARindigo]

Now that we aren't ragging eachother TOTALLY, I will give you credit for being able to keep up. For a 17 year old....

[CocaCola]

I have ADD!1

[motorcycletony222]

You two need to get a room. You may find this hard to believe Miss Star, but I to was a fireman. Most of my certificates expire in 2008. I was lead search and rescue. Along with those duties I was the Haz-Mat coordinator. It was my duty when we first arrived to make a call as to if we faced any major chemicals. And I did wildland firefighting for the forest service, all in the great western states, like Cali, Az, Tex, N. Mex. I think the meth problem spread from Cali. back in the sixites. I have seen and been in and cleaned up far to many "labs". Its all government bullshit, nothing but lies. They want to control the meth trade much like leaders of the past have rallied citizens against a common enemy. To deflect the crimes that they are doing. They should stop all the crack on the streets. That comes to us from real terrorists. Most of the speed on the streets now comes from Mexico. So, I have seen these things, myself, I'm not repeating other peoples embelished stories. The best thing you could do is stay in school and get an education. It gives someone a rounding out in ideas.

[bedake]

that conversation was so the cheesy movie moment where the guy and girl start calling eachother names and slowly there faces start geting closer and closer, and then they start making out.... so cliche haha j/k

[CocaCola]

:cool:

I don't if there is a cool face but still... :cool:

There is! :smokin:

[jbuckets]

I JUST SNORTED A FATASS LINE OF CRANK AND ITS AMAZING!:dance:












Yay for starting controversy!

[siSTARindigo]

that conversation was so the cheesy movie moment where the guy and girl start calling eachother names and slowly there faces start geting closer and closer, and then they start making out.... so cliche haha j/k

To bad there isn't a flip off smiley......

[siSTARindigo]

You two need to get a room. You may find this hard to believe Miss Star, but I to was a fireman. Most of my certificates expire in 2008. I was lead search and rescue. Along with those duties I was the Haz-Mat coordinator. It was my duty when we first arrived to make a call as to if we faced any major chemicals. And I did wildland firefighting for the forest service, all in the great western states, like Cali, Az, Tex, N. Mex. I think the meth problem spread from Cali. back in the sixites. I have seen and been in and cleaned up far to many "labs". Its all government bullshit, nothing but lies. They want to control the meth trade much like leaders of the past have rallied citizens against a common enemy. To deflect the crimes that they are doing. They should stop all the crack on the streets. That comes to us from real terrorists. Most of the speed on the streets now comes from Mexico. So, I have seen these things, myself, I'm not repeating other peoples embelished stories. The best thing you could do is stay in school and get an education. It gives someone a rounding out in ideas.

And I don't find it hard to believe, why would I. It isn't like it is hard to be, you can volunteer! It is like bragging about being in the army, so what, anybody can do it:thumbsup:

I was just talking about the stuff you see in these classes. But whatever, I am going to go make out with Coca now, so you can go fuck youself :)

[Shelbay]

And I don't find it hard to believe, why would I. It isn't like it is hard to be, you can volunteer! It is like bragging about being in the army, so what, anybody can do it:thumbsup:

I was just talking about the stuff you see in these classes. But whatever, I am going to go make out with Coca now, so you can go fuck youself :)
And you claim to be christian? You,Slayer and your other F**k buddy...your just nasty!

[Savako]

You two need to get a room. You may find this hard to believe Miss Star, but I to was a fireman. Most of my certificates expire in 2008. I was lead search and rescue. Along with those duties I was the Haz-Mat coordinator. It was my duty when we first arrived to make a call as to if we faced any major chemicals. And I did wildland firefighting for the forest service, all in the great western states, like Cali, Az, Tex, N. Mex. I think the meth problem spread from Cali. back in the sixites. I have seen and been in and cleaned up far to many "labs". Its all government bullshit, nothing but lies. They want to control the meth trade much like leaders of the past have rallied citizens against a common enemy. To deflect the crimes that they are doing. They should stop all the crack on the streets. That comes to us from real terrorists. Most of the speed on the streets now comes from Mexico. So, I have seen these things, myself, I'm not repeating other peoples embelished stories. The best thing you could do is stay in school and get an education. It gives someone a rounding out in ideas.

it does come from Mexico, it goes on a trail "most of the supply" and by the time it reach up a up state or further state or city from mexico the badder in quality it is. I do know alot of suppliers thgh with firerock which is very very good shit.

[BestTonicIsChronic]

they had this thing on tv talking about meth and all i can say is damn that shit is dirty. its like ammonia, ephedrin or psudoephedrin, and chlorine and it make you look like a semi-truck it you in the face, meth junkies look like hell. Smack is fucking screwed up to the closes thing ill do is pharmacudical opiates but ive only done them 4 times

[deekyleeky]

Shooting up meth is way more dirty than mainlining H

[Syrus]

this thread is still gonig? wow. anyway ive already stated my stance on the subject.