Whose Registered to Vote ?

[peji]

I am registered how about anyone else ?? :cool:

[Libertarian Toker]

I am. What did you registered as, and who will you vote for and why? If you don't wish to say I will understand. I am open with my politics, but I understand that not all people want others to know about what they do in that department.

Toker

[smokette]

Iam registered to vote as an democrat. Im voting for whoever the fuck I want lol but what gets me is those damn campaign commercials could do without those lol and I hope that fuckin bush dont get in there well peace

[rnf232s]

I am registered to vote. I dont affiliate with one party. I dont think it matters what party someone is as long as they have issues that appeal to me. I cant say who I want to vote for this year cause I am still reading issues all sides have and I want to watch the debates too before I make final decisions.

[Torog]

I've been a registered republican,since '78,and I will be voting for Bush,bright and early,come election day. I don't agree with Bush on the WOD,but I do believe we need someone in office,that won't retreat or surrender to the terrorists,like Kerry or Badnarik will do. The time for social engineering,is not now,nor isolationism.

[Arioch]

I'm registered as a Libertarian, but am probably more of an independent than anything. Voted for my first independent presidential candidate in 1980 - John Anderson - because I didn't like my other two choices. I've voted Libertarian the last couple of presidential elections. This time around, I'm voting AGAINST Bush, because I think he and his cronies are just plain dangerous.

Peji, are you American Indian? Not many would have chosen that handle. I'm working in Indian Country right now; my grandson is half Indian.

Peace to all of you

[peji]

I'm registered as an independent since 1984. Yes Aroich, I am American Indian. Just what do u do in Indian Country if I may ask ? Which part of Indian country ? Thats fantastic what tribe is ur grandson ? ;)

[Arioch]

My grandson is Lakota, and I am working with the tribe/res he will be enrolled in. What I can say is, I've been meeting a lot of good people here, people that understand you can be patriotic, people that are willing to serve and sacrifice, and yet hate the war in Iraq, all at the same time.

My job keeps me outside, so I get to see a lot of country, and walk a lot of the earth. Good for my soul.

Take care

[peji]

I am an Oglala Lakota was recently back to visit just this past week which I do ever year well at least try too. Yes the war in Iraq has touched all of our lives in some way or another. Sounds like u have an excellent job out doors w/ Mother Nature. Maybe talk in chat sometime. Later

[Torog]

I'm curious,why do the Lakota feel that the Iraqi's and Afghani's,have no right to freedom and should still be suffering under brutal dictatorships ?

[TheDirtyB]

Im registered and vote LIBATARIAN.

[Arioch]

I'm curious,why do the Lakota feel that the Iraqi's and Afghani's,have no right to freedom and should still be suffering under brutal dictatorships ?

There is no question here, just your opinion cloaked as a question. Or put another way, a leading question. It appears that you operate within a very narrow context, that you don't like too many variables complicating your worldview.

The people I have talked to would certainly like to see all brown-skinned people released from brutal dictatorships, and be allowed to live their lives in freedom.

A friend of mine told me of his friend's son, a tribal member and armed forces member serving in Iraq, who committed suicide there, stating in his suicide note that he didn't understand why he was there killing other brown-skinned people.

As usual, we are not hearing everything that is going on over there, that perhaps many Iraqi lives have not changed much, that they are still living in fear of brutality.

It is possible to view the situation in Iraq from many perspectives, to feel a great sadness that this "freedom" has to be imposed at such a great cost, that it could have been done a different way, that many Americans seem to be driven by revenge as much as altruism.

The most obvious statement - we all see what we want to see - that it is hard to see with clear vision - which is to see through other's eyes.

[maryjanemama]

I've been registered to vote as an Independent since 1992. Unfortunately, I turned 18 6 weeks after the '92 election, so I wasn't able to vote that year. There are lots of different reasons why I chose to register as an Independent, but mainly because I was 18 and full of idealism and I didn't want to be pigeon holed by a 2 party system. Now, I am almost 30, and I still feel the same way.

[Torog]

There is no question here, just your opinion cloaked as a question. Or put another way, a leading question. It appears that you operate within a very narrow context, that you don't like too many variables complicating your worldview.

The people I have talked to would certainly like to see all brown-skinned people released from brutal dictatorships, and be allowed to live their lives in freedom.

A friend of mine told me of his friend's son, a tribal member and armed forces member serving in Iraq, who committed suicide there, stating in his suicide note that he didn't understand why he was there killing other brown-skinned people.

As usual, we are not hearing everything that is going on over there, that perhaps many Iraqi lives have not changed much, that they are still living in fear of brutality.

It is possible to view the situation in Iraq from many perspectives, to feel a great sadness that this "freedom" has to be imposed at such a great cost, that it could have been done a different way, that many Americans seem to be driven by revenge as much as altruism.

The most obvious statement - we all see what we want to see - that it is hard to see with clear vision - which is to see through other's eyes.
My opinion ? Perhaps,but I do have a genuine curiosity,and I believe that it deserves a direct answer.

I wonder,could this tragic suicide have been prevented,if the man's father would have kept the fight against Evil,a simple and narrow,uncompromising issue in his son's mind ?

Such is the dearth of liberalism,which seeks to cloud every issue with 'gray',Evil thrives on confusion and indecision....

What does the color of one's skin,have to do with the inalienable right of Freedom for all ?

Learning to be humble and selfless,is not easy-and is a life-long struggle..taking one's own life,is a selfish and arrogant act against the Creator and our family's..you are blessed-to be able to walk freely on the Earth..and behold the great works of the Creator..should not all peoples be so blessed ?

Have a good one...Torog

[pisshead]

Such is the dearth of liberalism,which seeks to cloud every issue with 'gray',Evil thrives on confusion and indecision....

you are the liberal torog. Once again, your double think is astounding. You support a president that supports the FTAA, wide open borders, gun control, massive government growth in size and spending, funding the dept. of education and unesco and the UN that teaches our kids how to be good little world government socialists, turning america into a nazi germany like police state to keep us safe from the terrorists. In case you havenâ??t noticed porter goss hates america a whole lot, and bush likes goss. Goss says we have to throw our constitution away to be safe from the terrorists. Do you think a domestic cia (kgb) spying and arresting citizens for their political thought is good? Do you think the founding fathers were terrorists? If we have that, how will we have a revolution when the time comes if itâ??s a terrorist act? When you realize our rights are being taken, youâ??ll also be a terrorist when you fight back. You salivate at the thought of taking the 1st amendment away from â??liberalsâ?? but yours is next. Yet Jefferson says if you have give up your rights, you get tyranny. Bush is a world government new world order socialist pimp, he makes no decisions, his goal is to subvert the constitution and sign us onto treaties that destroy the constitution and take congressâ?? reign over trade and economy and everything else away and submit to global government.

And by voting for bush, you are saying that you support all of that. It really does sound like you are the liberal who hates america, doesnâ??t it? People like badnarik or the constitution party candidate (I forget his name at the moment) who talk about getting rid of the federal reserve (which bush and kerry donâ??t mind, because they are bought and controlled by it)â?¦and talk about small government and the constitution and bill of rights and history. but you ignore all of this. Time after time after time you ignore and ignore and ignore.

There are 500 smoking guns pointing the finger at the government for involvement in 9/11 and none that blame 19 hijackers who hate freedom who evaded our air defense. So, do you support socialist world government? What about building 7 and the evidence of bombs in the buildings? What about the insider trading prior to 9/11? Then the government announcing a terror futures market, betting on terror attacks. Essentially legalizing what they did on 9/11? The numerous fbi agents who were ordered not to investigate so called al qaeda but were repeatedly turned away or fired or ordered not to talk? They had the evidence for warrants, just like the constitution calls for, but they were deliberately stopped, and then weâ??re told of all the intelligence failures. When actually, it was an intelligence success. They wanted the attack to happen, and they let it happen. They knew it was going to happen and did everything possible to make it happen. Just like it said in the PNAC documents that you ignore. What about the families suing the government for involvement? What about bush sitting in a classroom for 9 minutes after the attacks, doing nothing and lying several times about where he was when he heard about it? And the massing of troops around Afghanistan BEFORE 9/11? I could go on and on and on and on and onâ?¦and you probably couldnâ??t last 5 minutes in a conversation on the details of that day, yet you blindly believe what fox news tells you. Wake up, your government is taking your rights away. Forget Iraq, forget everywhere else, think about this country for once. Compared to 100 years ago, weâ??re fucking morons. People a long time ago knew the corruption, they knew the scams, they guarded themselves against that because they knew about it. Today, we donâ??t know shit, and the country is being raped and robbed and pillaged and youâ??re cheering it on! What is wrong with you? Bush is a traitor, kerry is a traitor. They are both traitors. The war on terror is the war on drugs. Thereâ??s going to be more terror as we give up our rights. Just like thereâ??s more drugs from the WoD and more illiteracy thanks to the WoI and more everything for every war there is. Thatâ??s no accident my friend. To think that the country that spends the most on defense than any other country in the world could accidentally let something like this happen, and then lie time and time and time and time and time again saying no one every imagined planes being used as missiles, even though a drill was being run that day called for that exact thing, and I have a book from 1973 mentioning a similar drill by the pentagon. How can you ignore those massive lies? How?

Read this page, I pray that you wake up and realize that our government is taking our rights away, and we are being destroyed socially and economically to make way for the godless new world order. Remember, bush and co. hate Christianity, they need to destroy it. Rather the puppet masters pulling bushâ??s strings are the ones who are consciously aware of destroying Christianity to make way for a luciferian new world order.

http://www.threeworldwars.com/index.html

Read what those people are saying. Read those quotes. This is systematic, scientifically created dehumanization. Tell me what you think after reading that.

[Torog]

Howdy pisshead80,

It's good to see ya here,posting in Politics,I did read the the article you mentioned,from the link at Marihemp.

It's true,that our biggest enemies,are the russians and chinese. I hope that the article is wrong,only time will tell. Maybe the Illuminati,is the greatest enemy of all..but I do know this-God shall triumph over all,especially those who cast their lot with satan. So,even if all that you fear,comes to pass..it will only be temporary-because God will send em to the fiery Pit.

As long as Bush keeps going after terrorists and the countries that sponsor them and/or creates them to begin with,I intend to support Bush and the Pre-emptive Doctrine. I don't agree with,or support everything that Bush does,but atleast he hasn't shown the willingness that Kerry has,in surrendering and appeasing the terrorists. If it's the other way around,and the Illuminati is behind both Bush and Kerry,and they intend to destroy America,then those of us who like Freedom,will have to rise up and defeat them.

Do you really believe that we will all just accept slavery at the hands of the NWO ? Do they believe that we will all accept them as masters ? Especially when we believe in God and Jesus Christ ? Satan and his minions,will never win,they may rule Man for a short time on Earth,but even satan knows that he will be bound forever,into the Pit..that his time,is short.

Even if I lose my physical body over all of this,my soul is immortal..and I will never ally with satan,I will stand with God and His Son,Jesus Christ,my Saviour.

[pisshead]

i think we will accept slavery, i think we already are accepting it, it's just veiled under this pseudo patriotism and propaganda that we're such a free country, when we're not.

under the federal reserve, we are all slaves. read my post with the chapter from the creature from jekyll island. it's a whole lot shorter than it looks. much of the page is other stuff.

http://www.strike-the-root.com/4/hambidge/hambidge2.html

and read that.

it is the other way around, bush and kerry are both puppets, they make no decisions, all the orders come from above. this country is being destroyed before our eyes, and i just can't understand how people don't see it like a giant asteroid about to crash into the earth.

all of this give up your rights for security talk isn't totally unprecedented in history, it's actually the norm. and now we're being told the same thing. it's a lie! it's not true, you know that. giving up your 2nd amendment won't make you safe, and you should not vote for anyone that supports that, should you?

[Torog]

I read the article,in the link you provided,and I must say,it's hard to argue with it,also the article about the wet-lands,that you just posted a little while ago,over at Marihemp.

Things have gotten just that bad,as both articles describe,and our only hope,lies with God and Jesus Christ,but before God shows His Hand,America may indeed fall,and the beaurocrats and elitists will git their come-uppings,when they lose all power. The strong and hardy amongst us,will then be the ones with power,let us hope that their hearts will be ruled by goodness - not by yet more lust for power over the weak.

We the People,reserve the right,to alter or abolish ,our goverment as we see fit..will the guillotene make a comeback ? Maybe we should just git a rope..?

[pisshead]

i agree. we need to abolish our government now before it gets so bad. it's obvious things are going to get worse, and we're in a position now to stop it. i don't want to live in a soviet russia nazi germany type society where we spy on everyone and are crammed into cities and cameras are watching our every move and we have to swipe our card to buy anything and there are checkpoints everywhere and there's no 4th amendment and i'm being taxed to drive and do everything under this electronic federal reserve feudal slave system...that sounds like hell. but that's the direction we've been going, regardless of what puppet is in office.

we need to get back to the constitution and bill of rights. we need to pull our troops home from everywhere in the world, cut off all foreign aid, all of it and protect ourselves here. we need to get back on a monetary system not based on debt. not to mention abolish the CIA and all executive orders and unconstitutional departments and positions. small, limited, in check government with an informed society. that's what we need.

and on the real political spectrum, where one side is total government control, and the other side is no government control (anarchy) we are as close as you be to anarchy, but with a basic rule of law and inherent rights that no one can infringe upon.

their plan will ultimately not work, but that doesn't mean they won't try. if the government uses patsies or nukes a city itself, imagine the police state we'll get. if we get martial law, that's not freedom at all. and it won't protect our freedom either, because under martial law, there is no freedom. and you're not safe when you don't have freedom. but martial law is being touted now as the greatest thing. that crook tommy franks says we'll have to give up the constitution for military government after the next attack, but he thinks martial law is great.

[Torog]

I agree with you,on the subject of having a small,limited Constitutional Republic.

The question is,have 'they' begun running out of patience -and how quickly will they act ?

'They',have a huge problem on their hands,in regards to armed Americans,who will only relinquish their guns-when they are pried out of their cold,dead,hands.

Dang it,I've been up since about 5 o'clock this mornin,gittin sleepy..have to git back to ya on this subject.

Have a good one....Torog

[pisshead]

that's why nothing will go down until we're disarmed. disarmament is key, and they know that. which is why the military has been training with local law enforcement since well before 9/11 to do just that, before all of the terrorism, even though you'll hear that each time it happens it hasn't happened before and it's all because of 9/11. i have videos of these such drills and i'd be more than happy to send them to you.

i think the new world order needs to attack us again and soon if they really want total control, and they'd had to kill a large number of people for most of us to willingly give in to martial law.