Question (probably, for old timers)

[beachguy in thongs]

If you look back to the days when pot was legal, you'll see an American Hero, called Babe Ruth. Ever since "his day", people have been talking about him and what's the negative side everyone always mentions? They say he was an alcoholic. Mickey Mantle, too. And then just keep going until the 70's, alcohol was a big part of everyone's downside.

So, my question is, "Why has there never been an athlete labeled as a Pothead and why isn't there huge stories of famous peoples' downfalls because of Herb?

I understand about Ricky Williams, but he's back and scoring more TD's than everyone else on the team.

[tripsalot]

how old are you that u remember when pot was legal?

[robert42]

hes 79.

with his own teeth

[vipper of vip]

Robert Mitchim got busted with a spliff - nearly wrecked his career, but who ever his agent was put out a back film of his and he received standing ovations in cinemas so his career was rescued.

Lots of jazz musicians were very into pot - Louis Armstrong for example was a heavy toker.

[Ms420]

Im not an old timer but my opinion is because pot doesnt effect your life the way alcohol does. Like i said thats my opinion.

My question is why is alcohol and tobacco legal when their effects are way more damaging than pot?

[robert42]

Well Said Ms420

[Ms420]

thanks

[robert42]

i need to get this off my chest

I feel like a bastard!

IM GOIN TO BED TONIGHT

1ST TIME IN YEARS
NO SPLIFF.

Flame me!

[Psycho4Bud]

In the 70's the jocks were the drinkers....us grubs toked, drank, and snorted our way to graduation. :thumbsup:

[beachguy in thongs]

Roberto is suffering from "burn out". He burnt out all his weed.

Of course, the way to be successful in any form of entertainment is to be able to relate to a wider population and subjecting yourself to all sorts of states in order to understand different perspectives.

In sports, everything, including natural disease (Lou Gehrig), synthetic enhancers (steroids), money problems, legal troubles, injuries, etc., have been a downfall but I have never heard about a Pothead. It blew my mind that Ricky Williams took a year off from playing a game that he loves just because he wishes he played football thirty years ago, before drug testing.

[Ms420]

Is it night at your house already? Its only 2:50 pm here. I was gonna say the days not over yet then i saw your info thing in the corner of your post and saw that you were from london.

[Psycho4Bud]

Bill Walton - publically admitted to using LSD while playing professional basketball. Walton was hailed by Timothy Leary (on seeing him in the audience at a benefit concert for the Albert Hoffman Foundation) as being instrumental in helping LSD gain a wider social acceptance. :thumbsup:

Dock Ellis - famously pitched a no-hitter in 1970 under the influence of LSD. :thumbsup:

Ricky Williams - NFL star was suspended multiple times from the league for testing positive for marijuana. :thumbsup:

[tripsalot]

ms420 its cuz the tobacco makes alot of money for the government. alcohol too

[flamingskullballs]

theres always the acid rock. they smoked a lot of pot.

marijuana, and other drugs (even coke and heroin) have been a big part of our culture...then you see a person preaching of how drugs ruin the mind, while they put in the cream (coke) or ray charles (pot and horse)

[Ms420]

Downside to legalization of weed is that they (the gov.) will be making lots of money off of it too. Probably more

[tripsalot]

although the goverment wont admit it they make money on pot now. people who grow pot and sell it buy shit and that gets taxed. pots good for the economy

[Ms420]

yeah but then the shit would be so expensive that only rich people would be able to
enjoy it.

[budsbuddy]

not if you grow your own :D

[beachguy in thongs]

Dock Ellis - famously pitched a no-hitter in 1970 under the influence of LSD. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
LOL, that's two thumbs up!

[tribute to me]

My question is why is alcohol and tobacco legal when their effects are way more damaging than pot?



i highly suggest not getting people started with that question haha. :)

[Jimmicrackedcorn]

They make more money it being illegal, think of the bouncers of a club, confiscating much drugs, yet you can still find em in the club, almost harder to find sum1 without pills, thats wierd aint it? What do the DEA (and whoever is the british equivalent) do with all those drugs I keep hearing em intercepting at international borders and ports?

[Ms420]

i highly suggest not getting people started with that question haha. :)


I know~its just one of those things!

[Psycho4Bud]

although the goverment wont admit it they make money on pot now. people who grow pot and sell it buy shit and that gets taxed. pots good for the economy

Damn right they make money! Court fines, court costs, lawyer fees, AODA fees, whatever other fees your state may impose not to mention the resale of confiscated goods during the busts. To bad they just don't realize that a tax on marijuana would be more cost effective! :thumbsup:

[Metaxas]

I think that it goes a lot further then that. I think that weed gets are real bad time because you have a lot "hippy hating" baby boomers out there on capitol hill that are still "punishing" the hippies for all the shit that went down in the 60's / early 70's. I also think that in the long run the whole argument over weed will die out as the old farts are replaced with the younger crowd that really doesn't care about it, and the policies will change.

It needs to hurry up too, as weed is hard to find at times, and here in Mississippi I STILL have not found anyone that I can go to, and still relying on M.O.M. to get me through these dry times...

Anyone in Hattiesburg Mississippi that can help a brother out? :D

[Bman719]

You guys forgot the biggest Pothead player of all time: Randy Moss, who even admitted in an inverview that he recreationally smokes marijuana in the off-season, then cleans up to pass the drug tests. That guy, is a total pothead.

[Psycho4Bud]

Former Cowboy Mark Stepnoski tackles new role -- leading the charge for marijuana reform!
http://www.equalrights4all.org/potpride/champions.htm


And lets not forget Nate Newton...sitting out a 5 yr. sentence for transporting 213 pounds of smoke! I do believe we should all take a toke for good ol' Nate!!:thumbsup:

[beachguy in thongs]

LOL, ummm, go cowboys???

[mr pink06]

Buy a book called spliffs2 it has a whole section devoted to actors/musicians/sports stars who have been caught/admitted to smoking t'erb!
YOU ALL LOST THE GAME HA HA HA
Pink

[bonsaiguy]

why isn't there huge stories of famous peoples' downfalls because of Herb?

I think we all know the answer to this one Beachguy. There is not one documented case of someone "hitting rock bottom" because of smoking pot. It's almost always booze, coke, meth, painkillers, etc or a combination of those drugs. Much like there has never been one documented overdose on pot. As far as I know, alcohol related auto accidents is still the number one killer of teenagers in this country.

As for the reference to the "hippie hating baby boomers" I think that most of them are just trying to hide from their past because a lot of the people in power were hippies and have essentially "sold their souls" for money and power.

[beachguy in thongs]

I think we all know the answer to this one Beachguy. There is not one documented case of someone "hitting rock bottom" because of smoking pot. It's almost always booze, coke, meth, painkillers, etc or a combination of those drugs. Much like there has never been one documented overdose on pot. As far as I know, alcohol related auto accidents is still the number one killer of teenagers in this country.

As for the reference to the "hippie hating baby boomers" I think that most of them are just trying to hide from their past because a lot of the people in power were hippies and have essentially "sold their souls" for money and power.
LOL, I'm sorry for making you type that. But, at least, now it's in print. :smokin: