poll on voting

[bedake]

Just wondering how you voted, im wondering cause since that election bush has done some pretty extreme stuff, such as the patriot act, phone tapping, google search requestin, and those last 2 are only the most recent,

[Smpthy4TheDevil]

i voted for Leonard Peltier. :dance:

[Wesley Pipes]

i live in a different country. :D :D :D :stoned:

peace to da world :rasta:

[Musician]

stephen harper sucks

[bedake]

damn theres alot of foreign people....



this is a hidden bump... dont tell anyone

[thebathroom]

stephen harper sucks



oh dear.
i take it you're from canada.
i am so sad for us right now.

[Nochowderforyou]

oh dear.
i take it you're from canada.
i am so sad for us right now.

I'm sad too. Even a tad scared. He's like the Canadian George W...I'm scared :(

[Awill3449]

What are Harper's positions on the major issues in Canda? Is he really as conservative as Bush?

[mr pink06]

i dont care i live in the UK, god saved the queen lol

[STDzRus]

Voting is supporting the establishment.

NOBODY REGISTER TO VOTE...NOBODY VOTE.

What would happen if each party recieved 0 votes.....I wonder..?

[mr pink06]

i would become leader and leagalise dope and make rizzla's FREE!!

[Inspiration]

i dont care i live in the UK, god saved the queen lol

Vote for Blair, Vote for Bush - I would vote for neither.... would prefer Gengis Kahn - at least you expected it of him!!

[bedake]

Vote for Blair, Vote for Bush - I would vote for neither.... would prefer Gengis Kahn - at least you expected it of him!!


id vote for Kahn in a heart beat, id love to pillage villages on horse back and ravage lands for all they are worth!

[Oneironaut]

Either way the election went, the government and capitalism would have won. They always do. Like STDzRus said, don't vote. It only legitimizes the establishment.

[bedake]

Either way the election went, the government and capitalism would have won. They always do. Like STDzRus said, don't vote. It only legitimizes the establishment.


you do realize if there was anarchy, you wouldent have the internet or anything you hold dear today? you would live in a mud hut in fear of the gangs that would be roaming around killing random people..... anarchy would only work in a utopian societ, which is non existant..... if you want anarchy move to somalia lol im sure you will have fun there, its a perfect example of what will happen if there was anarchy here

i like the idea of a utopia but as well as an idealist i am realistic... it will never exist, the smart anarchist votes to improve the government that works

[Nochowderforyou]

i would become leader and leagalise dope and make rizzla's FREE!!

Speaking of papers, has anyone noticed how much a pack of zig-zags have gone up this year? I bought a pck right before x-mas, .86cents, bought another pack yesterday, now $1.27 a pack?! Not a big deal, but damn!

[420purplehaze420]

Speaking of papers, has anyone noticed how much a pack of zig-zags have gone up this year? I bought a pck right before x-mas, .86cents, bought another pack yesterday, now $1.27 a pack?! Not a big deal, but damn!
yeah whats up with that?

[lemonboy]

you do realize if there was anarchy, you wouldent have the internet or anything you hold dear today? you would live in a mud hut in fear of the gangs that would be roaming around killing random peopleThat isn't what anarchy is in the slightest. If you'd bother reading what Oneironaut writes, which is often very straight forward and logical, or bothered clicking on the links in his signature you'd know what he meant. Don't be so tethered to the dictionary.

[bedake]

That isn't what anarchy is in the slightest. If you'd bother reading what Oneironaut writes, which is often very straight forward and logical, or bothered clicking on the links in his signature you'd know what he meant. Don't be so tethered to the dictionary.


well ok, if you goes by what the anarchistic faq webpage goes then he isnt just some teenage punk running around spraypainting anarchy signs on wallmart... but still an anarchist society, will never exist, at least never in any of our lifetimes or the next generations.

and by not voting and then sitting back and whining about the official that was elected into office it just makes anarchists look like morons, not saying the dude was whining but many of the anarchists i know are like this... anarchy is never going to exist vote to change the current system

[Oneironaut]

you do realize if there was anarchy, you wouldent have the internet or anything you hold dear today? you would live in a mud hut in fear of the gangs that would be roaming around killing random people..... anarchy would only work in a utopian societ, which is non existant..... if you want anarchy move to somalia lol im sure you will have fun there, its a perfect example of what will happen if there was anarchy here

i like the idea of a utopia but as well as an idealist i am realistic... it will never exist, the smart anarchist votes to improve the government that works
I don't think utopia will ever happen either. Anarchism isn't about reaching some final end point. It's about improving society, bit by bit. We can never be perfect, but we can get closer than we are today.

I would urge you to study anarchist societies of the past, especially the anarchist collectives during the Spanish Civil War and the Makhnovshchino in the Ukraine. In neither of those societies did people live in mud huts without technology killing and raping each other senselessly. They actually got along pretty well without governments and without companies. The busses and the schools and the factories were still running.

[Psycho4Bud]

This is kind of the wrong wording....in general, you don't vote for a certain individual more than your voting against the other guy.

[MoonStarer420]

You should have had 3rd party as a diffrent selection.
Theres a big diffrence between not voting and voting for a third party. Even if they don't get many votes.

[Oneironaut]

well ok, if you goes by what the anarchistic faq webpage goes then he isnt just some teenage punk running around spraypainting anarchy signs on wallmart... but still an anarchist society, will never exist, at least never in any of our lifetimes or the next generations.
Even if that were true, does that make it an unworthy goal? I don't think so. No more unworthy than, say, advocating for the abolition of slavery in the 15th century. And anyways, as I already mentioned, anarchism isn't about creating a perfect society. There will be no time when we can sit down and say "well we did it, we eliminated all domination of humankind", no more than we will ever get rid of disease or crime. But just because disease and crime aren't going away any time soon doesn't mean we shouldn't try to fight them.


and by not voting and then sitting back and whining about the official that was elected into office it just makes anarchists look like morons, not saying the dude was whining but many of the anarchists i know are like this... anarchy is never going to exist vote to change the current system
We're not complaining about the people elected into office. We're complaining that there are people in office telling everyone else what to do in the first place. If I voted for the other guy, what would that change? Nothing. Voting for who rules over you is not democracy.

Even if I agreed with the whole system and wanted to vote, I'd be forced to make a choice between a few rich white guys with slightly differing agendas on how to run capitalism and the state. I don't get to actually express my ideas. I just have to choose the guy who most closely resembles what I want, and if he disagrees with me on some fundamental issues, too bad, I don't have a choice except for the other guy who I disagree with even more. And then these guys are perfectly free to break any campaign promises once in office.

In an anarchist society, there would be true direct democracy. People would be elected to do administrative tasks, but they wouldn't have any intrinsic authority over other people and would be instantly recallable if the people who elected them disagree with their actions. More importantly, everybody would get to express their real beliefs on the issues that affect them, and their individual opinions would matter, not the opinion of the guy who happens to have the charisma to charm the largest percentage of voters into letting him think for them.

[BizzleLuvin]

voted for badnarik

[Psycho4Bud]

You should have had 3rd party as a diffrent selection.
Theres a big diffrence between not voting and voting for a third party. Even if they don't get many votes.


Well we had Ross Perot for a while there....him and the brain dead V.P. candidate.

[God v2.0]

I dont live on Earth but if I did I would have done a write in for myself.

[mr pink06]

papers in the UK have cost around about 30p for smalls and 80p for kings and its been like that FOREVER HAHAHAHA
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