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9KtuFK
01-24-2006, 09:55 PM
Is it really worth the extra $.

Will I get A bigger yield with the 1000W ?

Does it cover a biger space ?

Thanks

scobbie
01-24-2006, 09:57 PM
how many plants you growing

Powder Puff
01-24-2006, 10:03 PM
No, 1000W will lower you're yield! :rolleyes:

What do you think? 1000W HPS, with a cool tube = Lots and lots of budses!:)

9KtuFK
01-24-2006, 10:24 PM
WOW, that's fast!

I figured a 1000W would give more yield but how much. Is it worth the extra $ ?

I've got a pretty big room (20 X 20).

I'm planning on getting 3 lights to start with and Iā??m not sure how many plants I could fit under each lamp. Iā??m cloning my best females as we speak. (White widow for me, Afghani and big bud superskunk for the rest ā?¦)

turtle420
01-24-2006, 10:32 PM
Given the option to buy a Mustang, you can select either the V6 engine, or the baddass, tunable, upgradable, historic, legendary and emotional V8... Now, here's the reasoning:::

You only buy the V6 Mustang because of:
A- Your budget only allows the V6
B- You're the biggest imbecile in the face of our planet Earth.

So, if reason A isn't a problem, it's pretty obvious how many cylinders you'll end up with.

The more the better...

1000W vs 600W... 1000W wins
Now....
1000W vs TWO 600W.... the twins win

9KtuFK
01-24-2006, 10:40 PM
Thatā??s all good but it still does not answer my question in a precise way.



How much more yield (% or grams) should I expect from getting a 1000W instead of a 600W ?

Since the 1000W is way more expensive, I want to see if itā??s worth.

scobbie
01-25-2006, 01:33 AM
that depends on how many plants you are going to grow if you are going for maximun plants per light which is i think 15to 20 plants per 1000 watts then i dont think the diffarence would be much more than a 600 watts per maximun plants ,i think as im not to sure about this that the bigger wattage means more plants rather than bigger yeild,but then again if you are growing 5 plants with a 1000 watt then you would probibaly get maximun yeild considering you had correct ferts and soil and ph and all the rest so if you are not bothering about price go with the 1000 watt then you cant go wrong it depends on what YOU want and i hope i havent confused you more as only trying to help but best of luck as you will greatly enjoy your new hobby :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

9KtuFK
01-25-2006, 01:44 AM
Thanks scobbie!

I guess I wanted to grow bigger plant instead of the sea of green technique so maybe 7 plants per light.

If anyone know more about the 600 W VS 1000 W, please feel free to share the info.

LOC NAR1958
01-25-2006, 01:46 AM
I started with a 400 HPS for flower and changed up to 1000HPS. More than doubled my results. More than enough for my 4' x 6' room. It kicks ass. More light more better more buds. Wish I had your room . You need about 3 or 4 1000's and some light movers and a ass load of plants. A 1000 will cover 7 x 7 to 8 x 8 foot square. Yield will be the most you can get if other things are right too.

9KtuFK
01-25-2006, 02:06 AM
Whats a light movers ?

scobbie
01-25-2006, 02:29 AM
they are rails thet move you lights around your room giving the plants an even coverage

BOYZNUS
01-25-2006, 07:06 AM
I am finding out that growing babies is like playing golf. There are 25 positions that must be maintaned for a perfect golf swing. Also, there are a million, ( more or less), things to maintane a perfect grow. But,,, fuck up just one little thing,,,, all bets are off. But hey,, we're to have fun ,, right? During my first grow, I had thrips, burned bud tips, lost a heater, got mold. Ended up with 4oz. (6 plants). This grow,,,, I am shooting for a max yield. Should get my 1/4 oz from each of my 6 babies. Lived and learned. As much as I would love to tell you how much you will yield,,, I dont truely know if any one can tell you that. But yes,, 400w will do them babies better than 250w, 600w will do better than 400w, and 1000w will do better than all of em. Happy grow.

BkSkillz
01-25-2006, 08:01 AM
9k how many succussfull grows have you had thusfar?

9KtuFK
01-25-2006, 09:59 PM
This is my first indoor experience.

I've been growing outside for several years with lots of success. This year (last summer) I finally reached my goal of 1 pound per plant.

To be honest, the more I speak with you guys and the more I'm thinking of sticking with growing outdoor. Less trouble with WAY MORE results!!

Right?

scobbie
01-25-2006, 11:16 PM
1 pound per plant ,wicked mate just wicked man :stoned: :stoned: :stoned:

stickygreenlightsabr
01-26-2006, 12:46 AM
Less trouble with WAY MORE results!!

Right?

Yea, if you like only harvesting once a year and have lots of land.

9KtuFK
01-26-2006, 12:47 AM
Just as an example, these 2 pictures where taken on sept 12th and the harvest happened on october 25th.

1 pound per plant !

Zandor
01-26-2006, 03:09 AM
I use 1000w because I have them but if I were starting from scratch again I would buy the 600w digital ballasts that can run Mh and HPS bulbs. Yes 1000w have more lumens but with the extra heat they put off you loose some of that benefit keeping the light farther away. With 600w you get less heat so you can get them closer to the plants and have just about as much light covering more of the plant area.

does that make any sense?

turtle420
01-26-2006, 03:13 AM
Just as an example, these 2 pictures where taken on sept 12th and the harvest happened on october 25th.

1 pound per plant !
Ok, I might be crazy... but I've seen those pics before.

9KtuFK, did you post over @ OverGrow.com? On the Edge forums?
That's the only other boards I read (calm down buddies, I don't have an account with them!)...

Anyways, I hope this doesn't turn out like this:::
http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=32593&highlight=150+sog

9KtuFK
01-26-2006, 04:07 AM
No, this is the only board where I post. I posted lots of pics in the outdoor folder this summer so it might be where you saw them.

Thanks for the valuable info Zandor, I will get 4 600W HPS.

happy flower
01-26-2006, 11:00 PM
We put 30# beneath a 600W HPS in 8"x 8" cups (8 liter each), per 1.25 square meter. (Sorry, don't know how to convert to feet). 0.88 ounce each, provided you have done everything alright should be possible. I guess the watt/efficiency discussion is a never ending one. There are unfortunately many and many more parameters which affect the harvest. We normally see 0.8 gramms (0.03 ounce) per watt at the better cultivator up to 1.2 gramms (0.042 ounce) for the experts. Much however also depends on the number of plants, sort of reflector you are applying (wide or narrow beam), age of the lamp, sort of the HPS lamp, reflection, etc. So the question still remains very difficult to answer. As to the efficiency of a 1000W in comparison to a 600W (or 2x600W), I think you're better off with 2 x 600W. The only difference is the Lm/Watt ratio, however, the 2 x 600W wil give you a better efficiency and make you more flexible, with of course the appropriate reflectors.

9KtuFK
01-27-2006, 06:42 PM
happy flower, thanks for you very precise information.

I will definitely go for (3) 600 W to start.

L8R