Beat the fuck out of this guy

[Nightfox]

ok so there is this guy, a child molester. he just gets out of prison for being a complete sicko for molesting children. so he is not aloud near children. so up the town he is seen trying to pick up my best mates sister who is 7. these guys stop him and come and tell us. so tonight we caught him coming out of the bar. we followed him back to where he lives, and jumped him. now this guy is like 40 somehting, small and fucking creepy. we are all 16 and 17 there is 5 of us. we kick the fuck out of him, and smash his cell phone. he will probably need an ambulance, but i think he got what he deserves that sick fucker. plz tell me if this was the right thing to do, adn what would u of done. mind the police were told what he tried to do, and they said nothing could be done cause we had no evdience. so i think he got what he deserves, hes now lying in an alley, but i still think we did the right thing.

[jahjahjahjah]

GANGSTER

[jahjahjahjah]

Seriously thats funny great shit, and bad ass job

[GanjaBob]

I dont think you should have done that . i personally dont like violence a whole lot and all you are doing is creating more crime and giving the human race a bad name.I mean no question this guy is disgusting but you might have turned him in for doing that to your sister to get him off the streets or somthing.

[pixel]

nothing like some good old fashioned JUSTICE

[slipknotpsycho]

wow good for you, a bunch of punk ass kids feeling good cuz they ganged up on a person and beat the fuck outta him... wow you're so strong and soooo cool now.. i don't give a fuck what he did or didn't do that's just fucked up.... maybe one day the same shit will happen to you and all your little pussy ass friends and you'll know the pain you put someone else through..... oh and please tell me your christian cuz this would make it all even that much funnier how you think it's right to play god cuz of what he did.... the guy will get what he deserves anyways... it's people like you and your friends i truely despise... why didn't just one of you take him, if he's so "little"

[Nightfox]

like i said we told the police but they said they didnt have enough evdience to convict him again, and it was my mates sister, he saked me for some help. the police don't have enought time to deal with these fuckers. and by the way we stood there and smoked a couple of bowls after we beat his ass. haha

[slipknotpsycho]

and by the way we stood there and smoked a couple of bowls after we beat his ass

wow you just get worse and worse... do you realize if the media got ahold of this information all of a sudden (yet again, after it took so long to drop that image) "marijuana institutes violence" grow the fuck up... seriously...

[GratefulDead4ever]

doesnt mean you have to beat them if law makers new this is what stoners do does it help our cause in anyway not really it makes them think that hey they want to be the law and act tough next time just tell him whats what and get the bottom of it

[jahjahjahjah]

ok so there is this guy, a child molester. he just gets out of prison for being a complete sicko for molesting children. so he is not aloud near children. so up the town he is seen trying to pick up my best mates sister who is 7. these guys stop him and come and tell us. so tonight we caught him coming out of the bar. we followed him back to where he lives, and jumped him. now this guy is like 40 somehting, small and fucking creepy. we are all 16 and 17 there is 5 of us. we kick the fuck out of him, and smash his cell phone. he will probably need an ambulance, but i think he got what he deserves that sick fucker. plz tell me if this was the right thing to do, adn what would u of done. mind the police were told what he tried to do, and they said nothing could be done cause we had no evdience. so i think he got what he deserves, hes now lying in an alley, but i still think we did the right thing.
I totaly agree this was the right thing to do, JUSTICE at its finest.

[jahjahjahjah]

You people call yourselves men, sounds like a bunch of PUSSIES to me.

[slpntrx5]

dude, that story was the shit. that fucker got what was coming to him man. child molesters suck big time.

[slipknotpsycho]

btw, were you ever present durring his courtdates/trials? were you there when he did what he's accused of doing? has he admited to you of what he did (age wise)...? if not then for all you know he picked up some chick that was just under 18 or even got lied to by the chick and screwed over, that shit happens alot... if you answer to all the above is "no" then you're even worse, cuz you don't know wtf he even went in for.. and btw...

he just gets out of prison for being a complete sicko for molesting children. so he is not aloud near children. so up the town he is seen trying to pick up my best mates sister who is 7.
if that statment is completely true then he would have gone back to jail no questions about it... the police wouldn't of said "you don't have enough evidence" the courts don't fuck around with this shit no more... they imprison you first, and ask questions later... so something about your story isn't right.. i'm leaning more towards you and your punk ass friends somehow found out that he was a molester and thought i'd be funny to go beat him senseless...

[jahjahjahjah]

You people call yourselves men, sounds like a bunch of PUSSIES to me.
THis was a joke by the way

[P.E.N.G.U.I.N.]

DAYUM, SON!

THAT'S FUCKING ANTI-PACIFISM, RIGHT THERE!

He needed a punishment one way or another...

You hurt a fellow human being!

Child molesters are sick fuckers and need to be locked up or killed...

You hurt a fellow human being!!

Studies have shown that pedophilia is uncurable and that once a person has fallen in to a pedophile lifestyle, they will never be able to quit.

Give the poor fellow a chance!!!

The "poor fellow" had it coming. He's a complete pervert and needs to be put out of his misery. You should have killed him.

But he's a fellow human being!!!!

Killing one human to defend many is a sacred duty. Just because it's immoral to kill doesn't mean it's moral to let the incurably immoral run free.

...Ya got me there...

Yeah, I know.

Here goes a rant:

There are 3 things every person has in this world.

A mind.

A spirit.

And a body.

It is your duty, and your duty ALONE to make sure that the needs of all three are always being met. You can't lean on the strong to make up for your weakness, you need to grow on your own. If you are unable to learn and grow, then you don't need to. If you are too weak to survive when your learning and growing periods end, then sorry, bud, hope the afterlife's nice.

It is also your sacred duty, although it takes second place to the one above, to help out the people around you who are struggling to learn and grow. Remember: Lending a hand is one thing, doing the job for them is another. If you lend a hand, you both will grow, however slightly. If you do the job for them, you grow, but the other person flails in their own helplessness. Let your fellow man grow with you, and lend a hand.

The mind: Your ability to think and rationalize events.

Kept healthy by: Reading, doing mind-intensive activities such as crosswords, word searches, puzzles, whatever keeps you fresh.

Help others by: Giving them oppurtunities to learn and grow in their mind. If they don't want it, don't force it upon them. This will eventually detract from your own ability to grow, negating the first sacred duty.

Harmed by: Sloth, atrophy. If you don't keep it active, it loses its strength.

The Spirit: Your consciousness and awareness of the universe.

Kept healthy by: Experimenting with "mind-expanding" drugs as the shamans do, reading meaningful books, questioning everything, staying in touch with your spirits worldly wants and needs (they vary from person to person).

Help others by: Preaching your spirituality, let others learn about you and you in turn will learn about them. Help others to question things that happen every day. Teach others to act based on what they want to do, not what others want them to do.

Harmed by: Experiences and sensations that vary from person to person.


The Body: Your physical attachment to the tangible universe.

Kept healthy by: Not overdoing any one pleasurable thing. As long as you can keep your body as a shell for your mind and spirit, which your body is, it's fine. It doesn't matter if you can run a mile or not, just make sure that you aren't in danger of dropping dead at any time.

Help others by: Getting them out of harm's way, while protecting yourself in the process. Exercise buddies are good, too. Just don't think of the exercise as a pain, think of it as keeping your body pleased with you.

Harmed by: Apathy, Atrophy, Sloth, Gluttony, Any number of pathogens, random happenings that result in severe pain, maiming, and death.

[slipknotpsycho]

You people call yourselves men, sounds like a bunch of PUSSIES to me.
we're "pussies" but you advocate 5-6 people beating up on one person... wow you sure make alot of sense... someone who is not a "pussy" would have gone toe-to-toe with him one on one..

[jahjahjahjah]

btw, were you ever present durring his courtdates/trials? were you there when he did what he's accused of doing? has he admited to you of what he did (age wise)...? if not then for all you know he picked up some chick that was just under 18 or even got lied to by the chick and screwed over, that shit happens alot... if you answer to all the above is "no" then you're even worse, cuz you don't know wtf he even went in for.. and btw...

if that statment is completely true then he would have gone back to jail no questions about it... the police wouldn't of said "you don't have enough evidence" the courts don't fuck around with this shit no more... they imprison you first, and ask questions later... so something about your story isn't right.. i'm leaning more towards you and your punk ass friends somehow found out that he was a molester and thought i'd be funny to go beat him senseless...
He makes a point.

[jahjahjahjah]

THis was a joke by the way
WOw cant you stop and read

[Nightfox]

wow good for you, a bunch of punk ass kids feeling good cuz they ganged up on a person and beat the fuck outta him... wow you're so strong and soooo cool now.. i don't give a fuck what he did or didn't do that's just fucked up.... maybe one day the same shit will happen to you and all your little pussy ass friends and you'll know the pain you put someone else through..... oh and please tell me your christian cuz this would make it all even that much funnier how you think it's right to play god cuz of what he did.... the guy will get what he deserves anyways... it's people like you and your friends i truely despise... why didn't just one of you take him, if he's so "little"

ok man just tell me this, what the fuck woudl u do if some fucking pervert came after ur fucking sister, would u just fucking sit back and do fuck all. and yeah a whole bunch of us kicked the shit out of him cos he's a fucking sicko, what the fuck are u on his fucking side, u know man i hate fucking ppl who fucking sympothise with a fucking loser who is lower than dirt.

[pixel]

wow good for you, a bunch of punk ass kids feeling good cuz they ganged up on a person and beat the fuck outta him... wow you're so strong and soooo cool now.. i don't give a fuck what he did or didn't do that's just fucked up.... maybe one day the same shit will happen to you and all your little pussy ass friends and you'll know the pain you put someone else through..... oh and please tell me your christian cuz this would make it all even that much funnier how you think it's right to play god cuz of what he did.... the guy will get what he deserves anyways... it's people like you and your friends i truely despise... why didn't just one of you take him, if he's so "little"

first of all, the guy tried to pick up this kids SISTER... and not giving a "fuck" what the guy did or not is basically not assessing the situation... the guy is a pedophile, and furthermore, he's still on the hunt for little girls.

what really makes me frustrated is you trying to get religion involved in this. your whole "please tell me you're christian" rant is so ignorant and irrelevant that i had to laugh when i read it. even if he was christian, that doesn't mean he's trying to play god. just because someone is christian doesn't mean they live their whole lives trying to play god.

now, your point on "why didn't one of you take him" is absolutely true. ganging up on someone is just wrong, the kid who's sister was in jeopardy should have beaten this guys ass alone.

[slpntrx5]

ok man just tell me this, what the fuck woudl u do if some fucking pervert came after ur fucking sister, would u just fucking sit back and do fuck all. and yeah a whole bunch of us kicked the shit out of him cos he's a fucking sicko, what the fuck are u on his fucking side, u know man i hate fucking ppl who fucking sympothise with a fucking loser who is lower than dirt.


123 :pimp: playah!

[Nightfox]

btw, were you ever present durring his courtdates/trials? were you there when he did what he's accused of doing? has he admited to you of what he did (age wise)...? if not then for all you know he picked up some chick that was just under 18 or even got lied to by the chick and screwed over, that shit happens alot... if you answer to all the above is "no" then you're even worse, cuz you don't know wtf he even went in for.. and btw...

if that statment is completely true then he would have gone back to jail no questions about it... the police wouldn't of said "you don't have enough evidence" the courts don't fuck around with this shit no more... they imprison you first, and ask questions later... so something about your story isn't right.. i'm leaning more towards you and your punk ass friends somehow found out that he was a molester and thought i'd be funny to go beat him senseless...



ok man he wasn't just fucking some chick under 18 who lied to him, he was molesting children who were 5 and 6 years of age. and in fact when we went to the police they looked around the town with the CCTV cameras, and found nothing because he was trying to pick her up down some back alley. the police said that because we had no evdience of him actually doing somehting to my mates sister they couldn't do anything. why the fuck woudl we just go beat his ass just because we "thought" he was a child molester.

[Nightfox]

and if i was a christian, would i be smoking pot?

[pixel]

lol my best friend is christian and he smokes, every time i ask him if that is allowed in his religion he says "probably not but god says in the bible to cherish his herbs, so lets get cherishing"

[slipknotpsycho]

u know man i hate fucking ppl who fucking sympothise with a fucking loser who is lower than dirt. wel then either way i lose, cuz if i were on your side you'd still hate me, cuz you are a fuckin loser who is lower then dirt. 2nd point, i only brought religion in it because it's always some stupid ass who calls him self a "gangsta" and is all behind the "lord" who goes out and does this shit. 3rd point, where in the bible does it say you can't smoke pot? so that statement is irrelevant.. i'm not feeling sorry for some sick fuck, i'm feeling sorry for some poor ass dude who got his ass beat by a bunch of pussy ass punk kids who think they're cool becuase they can gang up on someone and congratulate themselves when they win, as if the guy stood a half a fuckin chance.. you wanna give him justice, don't be no pussy about it, fuckin take him one on one, don't have all your punk ass friends jump in then expect to be patted on the back... and as far as i'm concerned your a sick fuck just like he is.. there are ways to catch people like that in the act without even endangering another child... then he gets what he deserves... then the whole thing about smoking weed while standing by him after yal did this bullshit only makes it worse... because you took it from just making the human image shittier to making the weed related image shittier... you think he's lower then dirt, well sir, so are you.... both of you did some dumb ass pussy shit against someone who didnt' stand a chance, and more than likely didn't even know wtf was going on til after the act already happened.. as i said before... you feel it's justice for him to get his ass beat, then fuckin do it by yourself, dont' call in all your punk ass friends to help you cuz you're scared he might win.

[kmcmick]

What are 5 and 6 year old children doing down a back alley? with a child molester? the first order of business is to have yer little ones at home safe. This dude is not the only sicko out there and you can't beat up the world.

[halo]

It was your friends sister eh? well i wouldve been mad as fuck too. If i were you i would have like screamed at him a bunch about what a sick fuck he is. Then maybe a punch or two hard in the gut. Nothing extreme. Either way i hope he learned his lesson. Next time dont be so violent. He will get whats coming to him one way or another.

[P.E.N.G.U.I.N.]

DAYUM, SON!

THAT'S FUCKING ANTI-PACIFISM, RIGHT THERE!

He needed a punishment one way or another...

You hurt a fellow human being!

Child molesters are sick fuckers and need to be locked up or killed...

You hurt a fellow human being!!

Studies have shown that pedophilia is uncurable and that once a person has fallen in to a pedophile lifestyle, they will never be able to quit.

Give the poor fellow a chance!!!

The "poor fellow" had it coming. He's a complete pervert and needs to be put out of his misery. You should have killed him.

But he's a fellow human being!!!!

Killing one human to defend many is a sacred duty. Just because it's immoral to kill doesn't mean it's moral to let the incurably immoral run free.

...Ya got me there...

Yeah, I know.

Here goes a rant:

There are 3 things every person has in this world.

A mind.

A spirit.

And a body.

It is your duty, and your duty ALONE to make sure that the needs of all three are always being met. You can't lean on the strong to make up for your weakness, you need to grow on your own. If you are unable to learn and grow, then you don't need to. If you are too weak to survive when your learning and growing periods end, then sorry, bud, hope the afterlife's nice.

It is also your sacred duty, although it takes second place to the one above, to help out the people around you who are struggling to learn and grow. Remember: Lending a hand is one thing, doing the job for them is another. If you lend a hand, you both will grow, however slightly. If you do the job for them, you grow, but the other person flails in their own helplessness. Let your fellow man grow with you, and lend a hand.

The mind: Your ability to think and rationalize events.

Kept healthy by: Reading, doing mind-intensive activities such as crosswords, word searches, puzzles, whatever keeps you fresh.

Help others by: Giving them oppurtunities to learn and grow in their mind. If they don't want it, don't force it upon them. This will eventually detract from your own ability to grow, negating the first sacred duty.

Harmed by: Sloth, atrophy. If you don't keep it active, it loses its strength.

The Spirit: Your consciousness and awareness of the universe.

Kept healthy by: Experimenting with "mind-expanding" drugs as the shamans do, reading meaningful books, questioning everything, staying in touch with your spirits worldly wants and needs (they vary from person to person).

Help others by: Preaching your spirituality, let others learn about you and you in turn will learn about them. Help others to question things that happen every day. Teach others to act based on what they want to do, not what others want them to do.

Harmed by: Experiences and sensations that vary from person to person.


The Body: Your physical attachment to the tangible universe.

Kept healthy by: Not overdoing any one pleasurable thing. As long as you can keep your body as a shell for your mind and spirit, which your body is, it's fine. It doesn't matter if you can run a mile or not, just make sure that you aren't in danger of dropping dead at any time.

Help others by: Getting them out of harm's way, while protecting yourself in the process. Exercise buddies are good, too. Just don't think of the exercise as a pain, think of it as keeping your body pleased with you.

Harmed by: Apathy, Atrophy, Sloth, Gluttony, Any number of pathogens, random happenings that result in severe pain, maiming, and death.

This rant was meant to point out everything you guys have been saying back and forth. Why not read it, absorb it, and then talk. There is no right and wrong in this situation.

Sure, the guy's a child molester. You still shouldn't have beat the fuck out of him.

Although, you were being very good at PROPERLY observing "Do unto others...". Why? because if you were a child molester, you, in your current state of mind, would want you to have as much pain inflicted upon you as possible.

Now, read the rant, and start fresh.

[jakenthegentiles]

im callen shanagens i dont fuckenbleve this at all
cau sif he just got out they woudl put him on house arest and theyd leik have soem one wachen him for a few days cau sthat how teh goverment is

[Polymirize]

You gotta roll hard on that shit right from the get go know what I'm sayin man?
Fucking pedophiles, thinking they can just loose their desires on unwilling people. Yeah, it's a good thing you loosed a little violence of your own. I bet you feel great about it.
I bet you haven't even considered how you've just become the very thing you hated. Someone who just satiates their own desires regardless of the cost.
Have a great life man. Try and learn a little on the way.

[Toothpick]

dude beating the shit out of the guy was the right thing to do it would get the point across however enjoying and smoking a few bowls after was wrong these things should be only done if they are a necesity and if you enjoy it then its no longer justice its then revenge.

[pixel]

dude beating the shit out of the guy was the right thing to do it would get the point across however enjoying and smoking a few bowls after was wrong these things should be only done if they are a necesity and if you enjoy it then its no longer justice its then revenge.

probably the best point i've seen on this whole thread, ( although i enjoyed penguin's mind body and spirit post :rasta: )

[Not Enough Herb]

penguin u are a very wise person for ur age.

id smoke u a bowl any day man. Yea ok the guys a sick fuck, but if u wanted to get revenge u should have taken him one on one. gang beating some one is gay and u r a pussy.

later

[hihigh]

ehhh i duno he probably got what he deserved

but hes a pedofile...it's a mental sickness

he can't control his urges and hes probably even aware that they are not right

this is why our jail system fucking sucks...people with mental diseases and the like get sent to prison...however all prison does is confine, it's not a source of rehabilitation..so when people get out, they go back to their own lifestyles because they do not know any better.

[HighBuddy]

well i agree with everyone in that your a fuckin pussy to beat some little old man down with 4 of your friends, no matter how sick he is, there are deffinately better ways to go about dealing with someone like this. and even more retarded for smoking a bowl right there. and do you even know if he lived? if you beat him so bad he needed an ambulance, whos to say he didnt have a brain hemerage. think about it, you could be a murderer, at 17.

[slipknotpsycho]

this is why our jail system fucking sucks...people with mental diseases and the like get sent to prison...however all prison does is confine, it's not a source of rehabilitation..so when people get out, they go back to their own lifestyles because they do not know any better.
you are right and wrong at the same time, the current american system for dealing with pedophiles is to lieniant, but there is "rehabilitation" .... if it even is a mental disorder, just like any other there are treatments... some more harsh than others.. there's the counseling and such, which can work (tho with adults even after severe therapy i think it's still like 90% that do it again, but there's still those 10%) then there's drugs... they basicly neuter him/her and pretty much strip them of their sexual desire... anyone that does it again after that has serious problems becuase for it be an "illness" there has to be desire, and if you've had your desire ripped away, then it's no more about sexual pleasure, then it becomes something even more sinister... something i can't even put in words... yes it's sad that someone caught selling crack can go away for even longer then a pedophile, it truely is... imo it really doesn't help when all these peopel who have desires for kids see others like them, getting caught and getting off on probation.. cuz then it's like "hey they did it and only got probation, nothing bad will happen" and then there goes the fear of "oh god i can't i might get put in prison and ass raped daily by bubba" but even that isn't really there, cuz they keep sex offenders far from all the other prisoners... as someone on this site already said once.. they are set apart from everyone else, rewarded for snitching on others and then released on good behavior half way through their sentance...

[OrangeKush]

I have to sympathize with the topic creator. A child molester is not a person, they are a piece of shit. When someone becomes a sick fuck like that, the forfeit whatever rights to a "fair" fight they may have had. Like someone else said earlier, you should have fuckin killed the scumbag just to rid the world of one more piece of shit.

[CocaCola]

"Jumping" anyone is a fucking asshole thing to do... It wasn't the right thing to do. You should have told your friend that IF he tried anything again, that HE should do something about it, insted of rounding up a gang of naive teens to nearly (and possibly) kill the guy. Especially when it couldn't have even been proven that he was trying to "pick up" a 7 year old... How could you know... what was he saying exactly?

You don't know, do you?

[CocaCola]

I have to sympathize with the topic creator. A child molester is not a person, they are a piece of shit. When someone becomes a sick fuck like that, the forfeit whatever rights to a "fair" fight they may have had. Like someone else said earlier, you should have fuckin killed the scumbag just to rid the world of one more piece of shit.

You're a fucking idiot. I won't even explain why, becasue you know why but you still can't except what has proven... you are an arrogant fucktard.

[Polymirize]

I however, will jump in to explain...


A child molester is not a person, they are a piece of shit. When someone becomes a sick fuck like that, the forfeit whatever rights to a "fair" fight they may have had. Like someone else said earlier, you should have fuckin killed the scumbag just to rid the world of one more piece of shit.

The problem is that people who beat the shit out of people are also pieces of shit who deserve to have the shit beat out of them.
If the only answer to violence is more violence then what makes you feel so "Justified" in it's use?
Is it ok for a child molester to molest because he himself was abused as a child? No, that's just an excuse. A horrible tragedy but an excuse nonetheless.
Does fighting a war on Terrorism mean it's ok for the President of the US to drop bombs that cause large amounts of civilian casualties? How does that differ from Terrorism? Oh, we just call it something different huh? Clever us.
There is no justice in violence.

[WeekenD TokeR]

I don't agree with beating the shit out of anyone 5 to 1, no matter what they've done. And jumping him? You could at least have warned him that it was coming. And that part about you bein so proud about smokin bowls over his shit-beat body, that made me sick. You are no better than he is. I usually have no problem with other people's morals or ethics, or lack of, at that, but this is just disgusting. Personally, I would've stuck to callin him a paedophilic cunt in public, near as many people as possible. In a lot of occassions, public shaming is just as bad, but at least you're not trying to physically cripple the bastard.

Peace

[TonyD]

This no violence at any cost type shit is what let hitler run europe.

[justinsane]

THEYRE TRYIN TO BUILD A PRISON. THEYRE TRYIN TO BUILD A PRISON.
THEYRE TRYIN TO BUILD A PRISON..... FOR YOU AND ME

[EternalEnemy]

all you are doing is creating more crime and giving the human race a bad name.

Bullshit


nothing like some good old fashioned JUSTICE

AGREED




wow good for you, a bunch of punk ass kids feeling good cuz they ganged up on a person and beat the fuck outta him... wow you're so strong and soooo cool now.. i don't give a fuck what he did or didn't do that's just fucked up.... maybe one day the same shit will happen to you and all your little pussy ass friends and you'll know the pain you put someone else through..... oh and please tell me your christian cuz this would make it all even that much funnier how you think it's right to play god cuz of what he did.... the guy will get what he deserves anyways... it's people like you and your friends i truely despise... why didn't just one of you take him, if he's so "little"


This is why i dont like Slipknot fans.


and by the way we stood there and smoked a couple of bowls after we beat his ass.

It was the right thing to do, because being severe both by causing pain and humiliating him you are making him more scared, and he will reconsider being an asshole twice.


Dude i don't agree with what that peadophile did but you are no better than him now. I realllly don't agree with violence either. Do you seriously think that this will solve your problems?? You could have just had some harsh words with him and let him know to stay the fuck away from your sister or you'll beat the shit out of him to try and scare him off.

What is WRONG with you? This is exactly one of those cases. There is no way he is sinking down to his level by doing the right thing. If someone hit me in the face and i hit someone else in the face, THEN i would sink to his level, not when i return the favor. If using force is so "wrong", then i think forcing him to be in jail is very very wrong as well, and we should let all the murderers and rapists be free, because its very very wrong to defend oneself, or to punish criminals to scare them off or to prevent them from doing more crime. Also, lets always have a FAIR FIGHT AND NOT BE PUSSIES. When we find out that someone has commited a murder, lets not send many cops to arrest him, lets just send one and suggest a FAIR FIGHT. You know, when i go to beat someone senseless, i have a good reason to do so, and right that moment i consider it so that he doesent have the right NOT TO get beaten the shit out of, otherwise i would not beat him so severly. Fair fights are fucking brainwash hypnosis for idiots with feeble morality. How about doing the right thing and not allowing the wrong thing?


btw, were you ever present durring his courtdates/trials? were you there when he did what he's accused of doing? has he admited to you of what he did (age wise)...? if not then for all you know he picked up some chick that was just under 18 or even got lied to by the chick and screwed over, that shit happens alot... if you answer to all the above is "no" then you're even worse, cuz you don't know wtf he even went in for.. and btw...

1. He is said to be pedophile
2. He tries to pick up someone who is 7
3. That one happens to somehow be close to you.

So shut the fuck up. Besides, pedophilia is not the same as liking underaged people sexually. Its liking preteens sexually.


wel then either way i lose, cuz if i were on your side you'd still hate me, cuz you are a fuckin loser who is lower then dirt.

Your logic is biased. Now lets wait for the brain cancer to occur and take effect.


You gotta roll hard on that shit right from the get go know what I'm sayin man?
Fucking pedophiles, thinking they can just loose their desires on unwilling people. Yeah, it's a good thing you loosed a little violence of your own. I bet you feel great about it.
I bet you haven't even considered how you've just become the very thing you hated. Someone who just satiates their own desires regardless of the cost.
Have a great life man. Try and learn a little on the way.

Yeah, that is problematic. Because if i stole your weed, you could not steal it back without becoming a thief, a thing you hate, yourself. Also you would make the world a dark and gloomy place full of distress by committing a dark act.


The problem is that people who beat the shit out of people are also pieces of shit who deserve to have the shit beat out of them.
If the only answer to violence is more violence then what makes you feel so "Justified" in it's use?
Is it ok for a child molester to molest because he himself was abused as a child? No, that's just an excuse. A horrible tragedy but an excuse nonetheless.
Does fighting a war on Terrorism mean it's ok for the President of the US to drop bombs that cause large amounts of civilian casualties? How does that differ from Terrorism? Oh, we just call it something different huh? Clever us.
There is no justice in violence.


Wow, what an idiot. Im 100% sure you dont acknowledge that right now you are using verbal violence yourself, so shut the fuck up you stupid hypocrite.

The fact of nature is that violence can cause two things:
1.More violence
2.End of violence

If you hit a brick, the energy of the movement keeps running in it, then when its power ends, it heads back and it rushes to your fist. The harder you hit, the more severe damage your fist will get. It will get completely broken. Also if you push a wall, the wall will push you back with the same force. However, if you hit the brick EVEN HARDER, very fast and very hard, hard enough for the energy to rush COMPLETELY THROUGH the brick, the brick will break and your hand will only get a little harmless scratch, maybe the skin will be bleeding. It will hurt, yes, but not much and the brick is destroyed. Also if you push the wall hard enough, it will move.

Its the same fucking thing with vengeance. Its true that you cant fight fire with fire, but you can fight steel with more steel, as long as you do it properly. Just like you can cause pain to yourself by hitting a hammer to your head, you can stop all pain at once for good if you just hit hard enough. But no, all the christianity-based moral is just all "fair fight!" "violence makes violence!" "pot is evil!".

I dont like preaching the way christians do, but everyone should try getting some new views about justice, therefore:

www.churchofsatan.com

I wouldnt say im completely a satanist myself, since after all im partly an altruistic person, believing that altruistic behavior, even if a lie, is part of human nature.

PS: The brainwashing bullshit about "fair fights" and "sinking to ones level" can be seen in like a billion movies. Have a little pondering and realize its stupidity.

[tyrael]

When we find out that someone has commited a murder, lets not send many cops to arrest him, lets just send one and suggest a FAIR FIGHT.

Lol.. just owned the thread, any way i would of done the same thing, anyone who molestes anyone underage and continues to do so after being convicted, should suffer and suffer severly.

[Fengzi]

I can't have any sympathy for the child molester. These guys are sick mother fuckers. People might try to say that he has rights too. But a 7 year old has the right not to be raped by some sick fucking pervert. As far as I'm concerned, once someone takes that right away from a child they lose all their own rights and are fair game. I have a two year old daughter and I can guarantee that if some peophile ever touches her, he better damn hope the police find him before I do.

On the other hand, I do have to agree that getting a bunch of guys together to jump him was a pretty punk ass thing to do. Did the guy get what he deserved? Yes, he deserved to have the shit beat out of him( at the very least) and that's what happened. Does it make you a bad ass for doing it with a bunch of other guys? No, your just some guy who was too much of a pussy to do it by yourself. There's no honor in it. The same as there's no honor in stabbing an unarmed person with a knife or shooting them with a gun. I'm generally opposed to violence but am not so naive to think that it's never justified. But if you've got to fight someone do it with honor: one on one and hand to hand. Whether you win or lose you can still go away with at least some pride.

[nick585]

would have done the same thing. and i would have ran his pockets, lol.

[Nochowderforyou]

ok so there is this guy, a child molester. he just gets out of prison for being a complete sicko for molesting children. so he is not aloud near children. so up the town he is seen trying to pick up my best mates sister who is 7. these guys stop him and come and tell us. so tonight we caught him coming out of the bar. we followed him back to where he lives, and jumped him. now this guy is like 40 somehting, small and fucking creepy. we are all 16 and 17 there is 5 of us. we kick the fuck out of him, and smash his cell phone. he will probably need an ambulance, but i think he got what he deserves that sick fucker. plz tell me if this was the right thing to do, adn what would u of done. mind the police were told what he tried to do, and they said nothing could be done cause we had no evdience. so i think he got what he deserves, hes now lying in an alley, but i still think we did the right thing.

You think you did the right thing?! What are you, a fucking idiot or something?

First off, this is none of your business. He was "trying to pick her up" huh? How do you try and pick up a 7yr old? :confused: If he wanted her, he wouyld have grabbed her and left, not try and talk her into it.

Second, 5 on 1? Ya, real tough you fucking pansies.

Speaking of sick fuckers, 5 16 and 17 yr olds beating a helpless man senseless. You'll get a major Karma for this you. And no, you didn't do the right thing. You are not the law.

[MEANGREEN06]

Kick his ass fuck it then throw him in a lake..

[Fengzi]

What I find absolutely amazing is how much sympathy people have for a CONVICTED CHILD MOLESTER.

[slipknotpsycho]

But a 7 year old has the right not to be raped by some sick fucking pervert. As far as I'm concerned, once someone takes that right away from a child they lose all their own rights and are fair game.

so then what about the punk ass kids? does a human being have the right to not be ganged up on? soon as they gang up on someone that has no defense against that many people, by your logic they too should be fair game and stripped of all rights... stop just looking at the crime.. look at the similairities...

7yr. old and a pedophile:
7 yr. old has no defense.
pedophile is fuckin someone up for life.
pedophile has a severe advantage over the child.
pedophile is gaining self gratification at the expense of someone else's pain.

5 punk ass kids and a pedophile:
pedophile has no defense.
punk ass kids are fuckin someone up for life.
punk ass kids have a severe advantage over the pedophile.
punk ass kids are gaining self gratification at the expense of someone else's pain.

[LordRuffleMontgomery]

As another person mentioned previously, why was the 7-year-old left unattended in an alley? Not to mention, there are many holes in your story. I'm assuming if this man just got out of prison, then he's paroled. Therefore, as a pedophile, he's most likely barred from contact or speaking to young children. If this is in fact real, I'd recommend discussing this matter with him and his parole officer. Why use violence to amend a situation that could be easily settled with diplomacy?

[sm0k1t]

wow I guess there no point in adding somethin in this thread...who can tell what was the right thing to do..as I just read everything and I admit that a couple of them have convincing strong ideas on both sides wether it was right or wrong to beat the guy. In my opinion, violence is not the anwser but for others it is.

There is and always will be a north and a south. We are either between the poles, at one of these poles and thank god some are able to be neutral (or accepting a little of both sides). thats were peace exist...hehe

I wont tell you what should have been done....it happened..thats all.

[slipknotpsycho]

What I find absolutely amazing is how much sympathy people have for a CONVICTED CHILD MOLESTER.
i don't have sympathy for a conivcted child molester.. i have sympathy for some poor guy who got his ass beat by a bunch of punk ass kids... i'm not even against him getting his ass beat down (cuz i know he didint' get it in prison) but either be a man about it, and do it toe-to-toe, or leave it to someone else...

[SneakerPimp]

damn if the police investigate what happened, you just admitted the whole act on the internet!

[LordRuffleMontgomery]

I'm pretty sure that this is just some bullshit story to try to impress all of his friends on the internet and seem macho. The lengths that some people will go to...

[Fengzi]

so then what about the punk ass kids? does a human being have the right to not be ganged up on? soon as they gang up on someone that has no defense against that many people, by your logic they too should be fair game and stripped of all rights... stop just looking at the crime.. look at the similairities...

7yr. old and a pedophile:
7 yr. old has no defense.
pedophile is fuckin someone up for life.
pedophile has a severe advantage over the child.
pedophile is gaining self gratification at the expense of someone else's pain.

5 punk ass kids and a pedophile:
pedophile has no defense.
punk ass kids are fuckin someone up for life.
punk ass kids have a severe advantage over the pedophile.
punk ass kids are gaining self gratification at the expense of someone else's pain.

Jesus Christ man, we're you dropped on your head as a baby or are you just plain stupid? How can you even begin to compare the 7 year old and the pedophile? Let me point a few things out for you:

-The child was 100% innocent and had never done anything wrong
-The pedophile had already molested a child, or children, before. He is not innocent.

-The child had no choice about what happened to him or her
-What happened to the pedophile was due to a choice he had already made.

-The child was totally hepless
-The pedophile wasn't helpless, he was a grown man who had already survived prision, a place not known for its good treatment of child molesters. he was outnumbered, not helpless.

-A child is pure, sweet, and innocent
-A pedophile is fucking human scum, the lowest of all lows. He is, in a single word-Evil.

I really pity you if you can't see the difference.

[Nochowderforyou]

What I find absolutely amazing is how much sympathy people have for a CONVICTED CHILD MOLESTER.

I have NO sympathy for a molester, none, but that still doesn't make it okay for 5 kids, to jump him, and gang beat him. It solves nothing, not a damn thing.

Not to mention this story sounds fabricated. A convicted child molester would no way in hell be allowed to get near her or to "pick-up" a 7-yr old. Again, how do you "pick-up" a 7yr old?

[Fengzi]

i don't have sympathy for a conivcted child molester.. i have sympathy for some poor guy who got his ass beat by a bunch of punk ass kids... i'm not even against him getting his ass beat down (cuz i know he didint' get it in prison) but either be a man about it, and do it toe-to-toe, or leave it to someone else...


Well, here we are partly in agreement. I can't see how he can ever be "some poor guy" after being a "convicted child molester but I do agree the beating should have been done in a more honorable way. Did you read the end of my first post?


On the other hand, I do have to agree that getting a bunch of guys together to jump him was a pretty punk ass thing to do. Did the guy get what he deserved? Yes, he deserved to have the shit beat out of him( at the very least) and that's what happened. Does it make you a bad ass for doing it with a bunch of other guys? No, your just some guy who was too much of a pussy to do it by yourself. There's no honor in it. The same as there's no honor in stabbing an unarmed person with a knife or shooting them with a gun. I'm generally opposed to violence but am not so naive to think that it's never justified. But if you've got to fight someone do it with honor: one on one and hand to hand. Whether you win or lose you can still go away with at least some pride.

[EzRyder]

Hey man thats fuckin awesome, im not for kickin ppl's asses for the hell of it but just think what that lil faggot did to those kids lives that he raped, he RUINED it they will be scared for life without a doubt, the guys is lucky i probably would have killed him if i seen a perv tryin to pick up a kid....

[SneakerPimp]

molestors should be fed their own balls... they are sick fux!

[EzRyder]

its not about things being "fair" in this situation guys, was it fair for the 40 yr old to rape a little kid?

[Fengzi]

Not to mention this story sounds fabricated. A convicted child molester would no way in hell be allowed to get near her or to "pick-up" a 7-yr old. Again, how do you "pick-up" a 7yr old?

Yeah, it does sound a bit far fetched but don't be naive. There was a really high profile case out here in California a while back. In 1972 a guy named Kenneth Parnell kidnapped a 7 year old boy named Steven Stayner (his brother, Cary Staner went nuts years later and murdered three women in Yosemite). Parnell kept Steven as his personal sex slave for 7 years until the kid miraclously escaped. Parnell was convicted and served 5 years (unbeliveable-two years less than he had held Steven prisoner!!) Well, in 2002 he was convicted again of trying to "buy" a 5 year old boy. At least now he'll never see the light of day again. Here's the full story if you're interested

http://www.crimelibrary.com/criminal_mind/psychology/kenneth_parnell/index.html

So, while the story may be fabricated I don't doubt that a child molester would have access to, or the desire to go after, another child after being released.

[420purplehaze420]

it's people like you and your friends i truely despise... why didn't just one of you take him, if he's so "little"
yeah gaining up on him was not the way to do it, the girls brother should have been the one 2 fuck his shit up

[SneakerPimp]

that guy said the "punk ass kids" fuked up this guys life by kicking his ass... well if so it was about time...
Think about it... These Child Molesters dont think what they are doing is wrong, so if they even go to jail, which most do not! When they get out they get to live a normal life and be happy... which Ive seen a lot do!
BUT the child that was molested has to live with it the rest of their life, they are haunted by it... every day they have to deal with the abuse they went through... They cant have normal relationships... Therapy, Drugs, all the shit they have to go through cos of these piece of shit people who get off on little kids.
If he got beat down, then basically Karma did its thing, now maybe he can think about why this happened... maybe realize hes scum too!

[Genuine17]

this was the right thing to do kick his ass

[God v2.0]

wow you just get worse and worse... do you realize if the media got ahold of this information all of a sudden (yet again, after it took so long to drop that image) "marijuana institutes violence" grow the fuck up... seriously...
You are one of the most ignorant people I've ever met. Enough said! What makes you think that the media would take sides with the anti-marijuana groups? The headlines could just as easily have been, "Group of teens assault local child molester while high". I think you need to take a little bit of your own advice and "grow the fuck up..." because aren't you a 19 year old who got married at 18 or something like that? Way to go, mary the first chick you meet. REAL mature there dood.

If a convicted child molester was hanging ANYWHERE around a 7 year old girl i knew much less was trying to pick her up, I would have probably killed him.

I guess you're just one of those people who thinks that someone else will do it for them, well get a brain hommie g because aint nobody here but you. When the time comes are you going to stand up for yourself and the peolple you love? No you'd just as easily let a 7 year old girl get raped RIGHT?

[slipknotpsycho]

seems like some of yal are misunderstanding me... i'm not even saying he didn't deserve to get his ass kicked... (tho there are lots of better ways, wow some guy gets his ass kicked, gee that sure is gonna make him think "oh i better not do it again, i might get beat up") but the 5 on 1 is total bullshit, and then, atleast in my eyes, he drops the title of victimizer to victim... reguardless of what anyone's done, they dont' deserve to have the shit beat out of them by 5 people, 4 people or even 2 people... if we're gonna start gang beating people for crimes, why not start with theives, and burglars, and car jackers, and hell.. after that's done we can turn to the assaulters that gang beat the people "who deserved it" because now they've commited a crime as well, assault, and we can continue beating the shit out of each other til we're all so stupid and wound up in muscle and ass whooping, the real criminals get smarter and don't get caught at all...

maybe none of you have stopped to realize this yet...
pedophile trys to get a kid, people jump him and law isn't involved at all... wow what's that? he's out on the streets still, how does beating his ass help anything at all? what exactly did it do? that's right, nothing...

pedophile trys to pick up a kid, he gets there and there's a whole shitload of cops waiting for him becuase it was a set up... oh he's arrested, may get out on parole but as we all know, they will do it again, oh what's that he was set up again, this time he goes to prison, may get out in 4 or 5 years, happens again, this time he doesn't get out...

now which would you rather have? pedophile get his ass kicked even to the brink of death, he heals and he's still on the streets..
or..
pedophile keeps fuckin up and doing the same old shit, eventually it's 3rd strike and you're out, now he's in prison for the rest of his life where he can't ever get near a kid again..

i have a son, i think i like the 2nd one better...

[slipknotpsycho]

You are one of the most ignorant people I've ever met. Enough said! What makes you think that the media would take sides with the anti-marijuana groups? The headlines could just as easily have been, "Group of teens assault local child molester while high". I think you need to take a little bit of your own advice and "grow the fuck up..." because aren't you a 19 year old who got married at 18 or something like that? Way to go, mary the first chick you meet. REAL mature there dood.

If a convicted child molester was hanging ANYWHERE around a 7 year old girl i knew much less was trying to pick her up, I would have probably killed him.

I guess you're just one of those people who thinks that someone else will do it for them, well get a brain hommie g because aint nobody here but you. When the time comes are you going to stand up for yourself and the peolple you love? No you'd just as easily let a 7 year old girl get raped RIGHT?
actually i'm very intelligent, you can sit there thinking of how to beat someone up, while i think of ways to do worse then physical pain can, i do have a brain and i use it, the way you talk i think you think with your knuckles. media would take anti-drug side because it already does, because media is on side with govt. they wouldnt' see it as "kids on marijuana beat up child molester" i garuntee the headline would have said "kids on marijuana brutally assault man" and not that this even mattters cuz now you're just grasping at straws, i'm 20 and married at 18, and i enjoy every second of it, i've known my wife for 7 years now, and would never think of being with anyone else other than her... so yea... and no i don't think someone else will do it for me, and if my family was in danger, or in danger of being in danger i wouldn't just stand around doing nothing, but i would use my fuckin brain and think of the ways to hurt him more than any physical beating will, and as for killing him, you go ahead.. while you're sitting in prison for life or on death row for murder, i'll be out here, in the free, enjoying my freedoms and loving every second of my life.. so tell me who's more ignorant, someone who has a brain and uses it, or someone who has a brain and thinks violence solves everything? somehow i picture you being an old drunk wife beater because she wants to divorce you...

[Polymirize]

ok, this is for all of you with hard-on's for "justice".

If the man in question had just gotten out of prison, then he'd already served his time. You can't keep punishing someone for the same crime. It's like having a friend who bums bowls from you and keeps reminding you of that one time he chipped in for gas money. After awhile, it gets old. You wouldn't keep rewarding people over and over for the same act. Maybe you should, but it wouldn't be "just", would it...

The cops wouldn't get involved because there was no evidence? Then there probably wasn't. Because cops love to roll with authority and if they didn't, its probably because it was just some halfass story from a couple punk kids that they were smart enough to see through as opposed to believing.

A little problem of "innocent until proven guilty"? Apparently that can be ignored if it gets in the way of justice. But then justice is simply mob rule. Hardly worth getting excited over or even upholding. If you want to say that might makes right you may as well just agree to allowing all the pedophiles and perverts loose. I fail to see the distinction.

Thoughts?

Oh, and as for verbal violence. There's an obvious distinction because, simply to start with, it can be ignored as opposed to physical violence. Most distinctly though, my goal is not to create violence, but rather questioning that might lead to your own mental development. Is that violent?

[slipknotpsycho]

ok, this is for all of you with hard-on's for "justice".

If the man in question had just gotten out of prison, then he'd already served his time. You can't keep punishing someone for the same crime. It's like having a friend who bums bowls from you and keeps reminding you of that one time he chipped in for gas money. After awhile, it gets old. You wouldn't keep rewarding people over and over for the same act. Maybe you should, but it wouldn't be "just", would it...

The cops wouldn't get involved because there was no evidence? Then there probably wasn't. Because cops love to roll with authority and if they didn't, its probably because it was just some halfass story from a couple punk kids that they were smart enough to see through as opposed to believing.

A little problem of "innocent until proven guilty"? Apparently that can be ignored if it gets in the way of justice. But then justice is simply mob rule. Hardly worth getting excited over or even upholding. If you want to say that might makes right you may as well just agree to allowing all the pedophiles and perverts loose. I fail to see the distinction.

Thoughts?

Oh, and as for verbal violence. There's an obvious distinction because, simply to start with, it can be ignored as opposed to physical violence. Most distinctly though, my goal is not to create violence, but rather questioning that might lead to your own mental development. Is that violent?


my thoughts on all this, is you're wise... and basicly say the same things i'm thinking. atleast some people in this thread actually "think" about it instead of saying "oh a sex offender he deserves to have the shit beat out him day in day out"...

and yes cops seem to love to throw criminals such as, assualtists, rapsists, robbers and all that in jail at the first sign of anything wrong... so i still stick with the fact that if this story is all true, then he would have been in custody immedieatly, therefore he wouldn't have been jumped. so there's something about this story not being told... there's no way any cop would've heard "a convicted molester was just trying to get my friends 7 yr. old sister" and not done something about it..

[Fengzi]

Thoughts, Ok, here goes


ok, this is for all of you with hard-on's for "justice".

The cops wouldn't get involved because there was no evidence? Then there probably wasn't. Because cops love to roll with authority and if they didn't, its probably because it was just some halfass story from a couple punk kids that they were smart enough to see through as opposed to believing.?

Good point. Yes, it is certainly possible that this whole story was created by whoever the hell is was(I've long forgotten by now) that started this thread. Then again, most of us do know that many adults, especially cops, aren't too likely to take the words of some stoner kids seriously.



A little problem of "innocent until proven guilty"? Apparently that can be ignored if it gets in the way of justice. But then justice is simply mob rule. Hardly worth getting excited over or even upholding. If you want to say that might makes right you may as well just agree to allowing all the pedophiles and perverts loose. I fail to see the distinction.

Another good point. After re-reading the original post again I do see it was a story of "he head from so and so, who heard from so and so, who heard from..." So yeah, it sounds like the guys who did the beating really were in the wrong. If they had seen it themselves it would be different.




If the man in question had just gotten out of prison, then he'd already served his time. You can't keep punishing someone for the same crime. It's like having a friend who bums bowls from you and keeps reminding you of that one time he chipped in for gas money. After awhile, it gets old. You wouldn't keep rewarding people over and over for the same act. Maybe you should, but it wouldn't be "just", would it... .

So, it sounds like you belive the penalties for child molesters are appropriate? What about the 5 years that guy got after keeping, and repeatedly raping a little boy for 7 years? Is that justice? Should we simply say that he's a swell guy because he served his time. The bottom line is that the penalties for this type of crime are a joke. You could get a longer term for selling weed. These guys, in my opinion, are the worst of the worst. To me, raping a child is a far more horrific crime than shooting some store clerk in a common hold up. And yet, when they get out we're expected to just accept them because they served thier time. Fuck that, I say throw them in a dark little hole for the rest of their lives. Cruel and unusual? Too fucking bad. Sticking your dick in 7 year old girl is pretty cruel and unusual too. They should have thought about that ahead of time.

[friendowl]

man if i was there all your lives would have changed.i would a made some one throw up

[P.E.N.G.U.I.N.]

probably the best point i've seen on this whole thread, ( although i enjoyed penguin's mind body and spirit post :rasta: )


Thanks Pixel.

The gist of that post is that you were wrong to beat him up, and he was wrong to be a pedophile.

If you enjoyed yourself while doing it, not in the sense of enjoying justice served, but in the sense of maliciously harming a fellow human being, then you are no better than he.

If you enjoyed doing the justice and getting him off the streets, then you're fine except for the unescapable fact that you hurt a fellow human being's Body *vague reference to Mind Body and Spirit post*.

Good day, and arguing over this is not going to show anything.

[P.E.N.G.U.I.N.]

so then what about the punk ass kids? does a human being have the right to not be ganged up on? soon as they gang up on someone that has no defense against that many people, by your logic they too should be fair game and stripped of all rights... stop just looking at the crime.. look at the similairities...

7yr. old and a pedophile:
7 yr. old has no defense.
pedophile is fuckin someone up for life.
pedophile has a severe advantage over the child.
pedophile is gaining self gratification at the expense of someone else's pain.

5 punk ass kids and a pedophile:
pedophile has no defense.
punk ass kids are fuckin someone up for life.
punk ass kids have a severe advantage over the pedophile.
punk ass kids are gaining self gratification at the expense of someone else's pain.

Attacking a defenseless person is no different than attacking a person who can defend his or herself. They are equally wrong.

[partyguy420]

dude, that story was the shit. that fucker got what was coming to him man. child molesters suck big time.

agread, as i recall... u said,"sum 40 year old dude, that was SMALL and CREAPY" a small guy dosen't require more then one person and maybe 1 person to back you up. i had the same prolblem with my neabhor and my brother. and he is small. i brought one other friend with me, and the other friend was for the guys son.

[P.E.N.G.U.I.N.]

ok, this is for all of you with hard-on's for "justice".

If the man in question had just gotten out of prison, then he'd already served his time. You can't keep punishing someone for the same crime. It's like having a friend who bums bowls from you and keeps reminding you of that one time he chipped in for gas money. After awhile, it gets old. You wouldn't keep rewarding people over and over for the same act. Maybe you should, but it wouldn't be "just", would it...

The cops wouldn't get involved because there was no evidence? Then there probably wasn't. Because cops love to roll with authority and if they didn't, its probably because it was just some halfass story from a couple punk kids that they were smart enough to see through as opposed to believing.

A little problem of "innocent until proven guilty"? Apparently that can be ignored if it gets in the way of justice. But then justice is simply mob rule. Hardly worth getting excited over or even upholding. If you want to say that might makes right you may as well just agree to allowing all the pedophiles and perverts loose. I fail to see the distinction.

Thoughts?

Oh, and as for verbal violence. There's an obvious distinction because, simply to start with, it can be ignored as opposed to physical violence. Most distinctly though, my goal is not to create violence, but rather questioning that might lead to your own mental development. Is that violent?

Polymirize, you are the mind's needs incarnate. They would do well to listen to you.

Don't focus on how he was outnumbered. 5 people can kill a man, 1 person can kill a man, even in hand to hand combat. It's not a deal of fairness, and I see it as fairer to get the job done quickly than to drag it out and dramatize it.

Pain is pain, if it takes an incident such as that to keep a pedophile in line, so be it. Don't make a muck out of it. He hasn't expressed that he's going to go out and start beating wimpy people with his friends, and for all we know he's generally a pacifistic person, but a pedophile going after a familiar face...that's enough to throw you off the edge. :twocents:

[Juggalotus17]

you all gotta stfu. this guy molested children. IMHO he should've gotten the death penalty. how do you think those children feel? Their lives are fucked up forever and this kids friends sister almost had the same fate and they taught him a fucking lesson. will he ever try again? not unless hes really stupid.

he obviously tried doing it again after prison. so prison doesnt work, a violent beatdown does.

and just cause he got fucked up by 5 or 6 people doesnt mean their pussies for not fighting 1v1. 1v1 would've been more honorable but the fight wasnt over a dispute, it was done to deliver pain and suffering to this fucking loser. and he got what he deserved.

Thank you, Nightfox, for keeping child molesters at bay.

[Nightfox]

ok obviously i didn't say where i was living, i am living in the UK, not america or canada, so this bullshit about parole is not right. over here, if u recall the man who kill and raped two teenage girls, well when he gets out the government wants him to go to australia, because the government says it would be to much to PROTECT him. over here they help fucking perverts and try to put them back into society. and about the girl being in a back alley. well this little girl was getting back from school becasue her mom and dad was working. the fucking freak caught he going down the back alley on her way home. luckly a few ppl saw him and stoped him before he could grab her. ok. i do understand that maybe it wasn't right for all five of us to beat the fuck out of him, but think, if this happend to some one u knew, wouldn't u be filled with rage and anger and want to get a piece of this fucking asshole. we don't consider ourselves a bunch of "punk ass kids", but we do think that this asshole will think twice about trying to pick up little children.

[NextLineIsMine]

BTW I think this is all bull, you want me to belive you are so ballsy that you would smoke pot over the guy's bruised corpse in public its just not done in real life. You made up a story to sound cool to some strangers on the internet, if you did it then why do you need to tell us so bad?

[TonyD]

It doesn't matter that he served his time or he's a human being the man violated a child and then was suspected of trying to do so again A FUCKING CHILD!!!

You can't argue a case that you can't use violence no matter what the circumstance because if you do who'll stop the next dictating cunt who wants to take over the world definitely not you pacifists.

[soxsuk6432]

and if i was a christian, would i be smoking pot?I'm christian I smoke it's not morally wrong it's just alot of christians are ignorant.

I'm not saying what that dude did was right but when you look at girls you naturally get an erection because you're wired to get an erection from girls. This guy could have been born to only get an erection from younger kids. It's definately still wrong but it might not be his fault. Also I don't care who it is getting ganged up on is no fun. When I was in the 6th grade 4 9th graders beat the living shit out of me I don't care who you are noone deserves that kind of pain. If you're going to beat him up you should have done it one on one because then he could atleast try to defend himself. Leaving him in an alley was also bad because what if he has a medical condition that could cause him to die. Then you guys would be charged with Murder or manslaughter and would probably spend alot if not all of you're lives in jail all because you you didn't wait to get proof and show it to the cops.

[kmcmick]

THE BIG QUESTION: WHERE IS THIS CHILD'S PARENTS?!!!!!!!!!

[50BagOfGreens]

UP YOUR ASS

[photosynthesis]

if your stole something from the stoor and someone caught you and beat the shit out you would you steal from that store again. now if a man was tryin to get it with a little girl and was beatin shitless a little while later i dont think he would mess with the girl again. child molesters will pick out a victem they want and will try to get them. so what he done made the future a little safer for the little girl. you say let it into the laws hands, thats just stupid, who created the law? we did.

if you dont fuck someone up bad for trying to get it with your little sister You need to be takin into your law and be put in jail, it dont matter what kind of morals you have or what other people made the law. your a stupid bitch if someone does that to your sister and you dont do anything but call the cops.

and i hear you slipnot sticking up for the pediphile sayin its not fair for him to be jumped. well its really not fair for little girls or boys to be taken advantage of. so fuck your morals and your laws.

im sure they didnt jump the guy to make themselve feel superior or were lookin for a fair fight. thats a way of exucution with actually killing the man.

instead of being strapped up infront of and audience and injected with lethal poisen, the group met him by himself and beat the fuck out him so it wouldnt be fair, no matter how pussy you think it might be, he doesnt deserve to have a fair fight.

its pussy shit when you jump someone because of something pety or bc there different, but when it comes down to someone being the most unfair you can get(child melesting) they just blow "fairness" out of the water.


even though i really dont belive any word of what whatever his name who said he jumped the old man, his concepts are right.

either way i wish i could see slipnot in person so i could slap the piss out you for argueing and for liking slipnot
- you a bitch

[slipknotpsycho]

first, learn to spell. second, i wish i could see you, better yet i wish i could catch you the middle of breaking into someone's house then twist your own shit on you, and have 4 friends and myself come kick the living shit out of you... but since you "deserve" it, i'm sure you wouldn't be whining and crying like a bitch right? nor would you seek revenge, cuz you, yourself agree people who do cirminal shit need their asses kicked, and no you can't just draw the line here and there... that's called being hypocritical... it's just like those christians who preech to you, til they're bleeding through their teeth, then, as soon as the bible and everything it stands for, gets in their way, it's ok to just toss it aside, because you can always go to church and ask for forgiveness...

[d00d989]

slipknot....put yourself in nightfox's friends position....a 40 year old pervert just tried to RAPE your 7 year old sister....would you really say to yourself and family "im not mad, he was in prison and paid for what he did. and since he only tried to kidnap and rape my sister, and didnt actually rape her, im not angry what so ever!"

i know if anyone rapes anyone in my family, their head will be on a fucking platter.

[Polymirize]

i know if anyone rapes anyone in my family, their head will be on a fucking platter.

And then you'd most likely end up in prison. Subject to multiple rapings yourself. and no one would be able to look after your family outside. Lose lose scenario?

[Polymirize]

Don't focus on how he was outnumbered. 5 people can kill a man, 1 person can kill a man, even in hand to hand combat. It's not a deal of fairness, and I see it as fairer to get the job done quickly than to drag it out and dramatize it.
Pain is pain, if it takes an incident such as that to keep a pedophile in line, so be it. Don't make a muck out of it. He hasn't expressed that he's going to go out and start beating wimpy people with his friends, and for all we know he's generally a pacifistic person, but a pedophile going after a familiar face...that's enough to throw you off the edge. :twocents:

First, to assure you, I'm not super attached to the arguments, and generally wouldn't make a big deal about it but, if people are willing to discuss it it's the opportunity to hopefully help talk people out of what we could call bad decision making? Shortsightedness, or not seeing the whole picture perhaps? It should be basic education...

Anyway, to return to the topic, I don't see how fairness is an issue at all. What is fair? Fair can't seem to account for half of the negative stuff that happens in life. Is it fair? Is any misfortune "fair"? Who can say, its a whole different debate... What seems at stake here is the notion of Justice. There is the notion of divine justice, which presumes to judge people on whether or not they're a good person. And then there's our more earthly justice, which punishes you if you happen to violate the system. The fact apparently is there was no violation of the system, except for the beating of the man.
If we want to punish people for what they may do again, or what we think they may do, then we're presuming quite a lot. To have divine justice you need some sort of ability to see in God mode, otherwise it's just: Innocent until suspicious. "These people are bad and need to be dealt with". It "justifies" quite a lot of things. Like witchburnings or the McCarthy Era. It's happening a lot more with situations like the Patriot Act but I personally am not in support of it.

I think the concept of Justice itself is a major misstep in the ethical development of mankind

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

i actually feel bad for the pedophile for two reasons.

one he has a fetish that most people will kill him for having, i doubt it is any more his fault he gets off to children than it is any mans fault for getting off to another man.


and two, you turned around and beat the living shit out of him for succumbing to human feelings and emotions.

i hear the legal age of consent in japan is 6... does that mean the japanese are all pedophiles and you should kick the crap out of them for having such an age of consent?

[Johnny Hempseed]

i actually feel bad for the pedophile for two reasons.

one he has a fetish that most people will kill him for having, i doubt it is any more his fault he gets off to children than it is any mans fault for getting off to another man.


and two, you turned around and beat the living shit out of him for succumbing to human feelings and emotions.

i hear the legal age of consent in japan is 6... does that mean the japanese are all pedophiles and you should kick the crap out of them for having such an age of consent?
If that were true and someone took advantage of it..they should be damaged severely!
I have no sympathy for a sexual deviant who's desire leads to ruining someone's life...
If it were up to me , pedophiles would be chemically castrated, and never allowed NEAR a child again!
I am fed up with the whole concept that the offender is just some poor victim..and in the mean time we ignore the pain they cause because we feel so bad for the guy who is diddling kids (Oh..pooooor guy had a bad upbringing!)
I think we are all responsible for our actions..if he chooses to diddle kids he deserves pain in return..I don't care that he had a bad childhood..I didn't have a great childhood but I grew up to be a responsible person...
:mad:

[slipknotpsycho]

slipknot....put yourself in nightfox's friends position....a 40 year old pervert just tried to RAPE your 7 year old sister....would you really say to yourself and family "im not mad, he was in prison and paid for what he did. and since he only tried to kidnap and rape my sister, and didnt actually rape her, im not angry what so ever!"

i know if anyone rapes anyone in my family, their head will be on a fucking platter.

first off, you have me confused with someone else (polymirize i believe) i never said "he served his time" or anything of the like, second of all, you don't have to beat the shit out of someone just so you're not "standing around and doing nothing" third of all, most of you seem stuck on the fact that i think he shouldn't be punished or whatever... all i've ever said is that 5 to 1 is total bullshit... fourth, i'll say it again... you don't get out of prison on parole for a sex crime, banned from being anywhere near kids, then "try to take a kid" and not get thrown in jail immediatly... there is no way in fuckin hell the cops would of said anything about not having evidence or proof... cops are hard up for pedophiles, and will throw them back in jail if they fart and it doesn't sit well with the cop... so i'm more intended to believe that they just found out this dude was a sex offender, and just beat the shit out of him, then him giving them any reason at all to beat him...

next i have a new question... if people who prey on kids and hurt kids (pedophiles) should be dealt with in severe manners, what about rapists? people who rape grown people? they're not hurting a child, do they deserve the same treatment? if so, what do you base it on? that they hurt someone innocent of anything towards them? if you take it that far, then what about assualtists, identity theives, arsonists and all of them? do you see where i'm going with this? incase not here it is: you can't solve every problem in the world by beating the shit out of it, you can't change people by beating the shit out of them, if your answer to violence, is violence, where the fuck does it stop? i'm sure you want to deal with pedophiles in these manners because you fear for the saftey of your child (or future children) (btw, i don't believe all of you are really even worried about the children, i think some of you just have violent anger problems, and you target pedophiles, cuz no one really cares what you say or do about/to them) what the hell are you really teaching your child by all of this? you are teaching them every problem can be solved with violence, and tho some and even most may turn out to be respectable human beings when they grow older, there is still going to be many that think everytime someone does something wrong, or something they dont' like, that they can beat the shit out of them and it's justice...

[TonyD]

The age of consent in Japan is 13 not 6.

[Doobie Snax]

i personally dont like violence a whole lot and all you are doing is creating more crime and giving the human race a bad name.

TO WHO? Who are we giving a bad name about ourselves to? Fucking aliens?

Alien - 'those humans can't behave, every time i see one, my opinion of them lowers'

Seriously...

And as the the child molesterer, he deserves everything he got AND MORE. The sick fuck, they all need hanging upside down from a tree by their bollocks.

[slipknotpsycho]

The age of consent in Japan is 13 not 6.
saying that is kind of pointless, as his point still stands, what we would consider being a sick fuck pedophile here, is legal over there.

[Reefer Rogue]

This has been one of the best threads I've ever read. It maybe wasn't the right thing to do, but who cares. I would've done the same thing. I say your beating was more of a crime of passion then a pre disposed hunt for peodophiles. It if were up to me, that guy would've been put to death after he was convicted. Why he was ever released into society again baffles me. He doesn't deserve to live.

[TonyD]

Trust me it does matter there's a big difference between 13 and 6.

His succumbing to his feelings and emotions is not on the small girl did not feel the same way he does just because he feels like feeling her up doesn't mean he has the right to.

[Doobie Snax]

imo...

PAEDOPHILE'S ARE SICK TWISTED FUCKS AND THEY ALL DESERVE TO DIE, EVERY SINGLE ONE, THERE ARE NO EXCEPTIONS. IF YOU ENJOY THE PLEASURES OF A MINOR YOU NEED TO BE PUT DOWN LIKE THE ANIMAL YOU ARE.

[Doobie Snax]

And breathe...

[t3chyo]

I think you did it right, lets say he would of gotten away with your best friends sister, that could of ruined the rest of her life. People like that never learn, but I think you tuaght him a good lesson to make sure your friends sister is safe. I hope you did go to the police first, but since they didnt have enough evidence it was time to take the matter in your own hands and you did, good job.

[Stfu its Matthew]

you did good im with u man if somone took my little cuz or somthing i would go out poppin heads with a rifle or somthing i need time to think about it but u get the point i no he didnt take the chick but good job! he deserves to get his ass kicked

[Polymirize]

Trust me it does matter there's a big difference between 13 and 6.


Afterall, TonyD would never, ever, have non-consensual sex with a 6 year old.

or something like that... what a great thread.

[Smokes]

I personally would have beat the shit out of him 1 on 1 but fuck it... he deserved what he got...

[Darchy250]

I agree completely with what you did because it needed to be done.Bashed him?why didnt you kill him?i know the effects of rape almost first hand as my girlfriend was raped for 3 years by her older brother.and all of you who said what this guy did was wrong, deserve to be bashed along side with this child rapist or put in a fucking cell.Rape on an adult is one thing, but when i child is raped it leaves scars that will never go away.
So to all those in this thread who said what he did was wrong?You tell me what you feel like doing the day you get tied down and raped by an old man.

Go NightFox i hope you crippled the fucking bastard.

[slipknotpsycho]

Rape on an adult is one thing, but when i child is raped it leaves scars that will never go away.
as opposed to the adult just forgetting it happened?

for the last fuckin time cuz i'm tired of repeating myself, i never said he shouldn't get his ass kicked or whatever you want to do, but don't be a pussy about it, fight one on one... or do whatever by yourself, if you aren't ballsy enough to do it by yourself, then don't fuckin do it...

[Darchy250]

i wasnt talking about you really, mainly the ones who were completely against it.
but i still disagree, that man had spent half his life taking advantage of little girls.That rapist knew the girls could do nothing to stop him and that they were completely defenceless, so i think its only serving justice to put him in the same situation.If one person were to take him on he would have felt hardly any fear and probably would have won the fight, am i right??Thats not fucking justice.

[Polymirize]

What has this come to?

Either we don't think violence is a good thing, and therefore are magically in support of child molestation...
Or we're disgusted by child molestation and think violence will solve all problems.

Anyone else see the misrepresentation in these views?

Apparently I need to say it: I am disgusted by molestation. It's a horrible thing and only made more tragic by the extent to which it happens in society. And yet, at the exact same time, I am also disgusted by violence. which is a horrible thing and only made more tragic by how widespread it is. Molestation is at its essense an act of violence, the same as rape, the same as murder.

I don't understand how some of us here seem to feel that violence justifies further violence. Please, explain...

[Darchy250]

To be honest i never thought of it in that way.I also respect your views.
But i cant help but see things the way i see them.
Im not disgusted by violence at all and it makes me feel better knowing there are people out there that will not just lay down to be walked on, but instead will stand up and fight for what they think is right.

[NextLineIsMine]

Most likely NightFox heard that there was a pedophile in his neighborhood and was looking for or made up an excuse to kick his ass. He obviously enjoyed it if he smoked a bowl over the guy. A convicted child molester isn't going to pick up little 7 y.o. girls in public after being paroled.


YOU ARE HYPOCRITICALLY THINKING WITH THE SAME FORCE FED STIGMA THAT WE STONERS DEAL WITH EVERYDAY.

(ever notice just how many episodes of Law & Order involve the cop beating down a child molester who vows he will continue molesting every child he sees)

[slipknotpsycho]

To be honest i never thought of it in that way.I also respect your views.
But i cant help but see things the way i see them.
Im not disgusted by violence at all and it makes me feel better knowing there are people out there that will not just lay down to be walked on, but instead will stand up and fight for what they think is right.
ok maybe i should take the time to point this out...violence, and defending yoruself are two way diffrent things... defending thyself means when cornered or otherwise threatened you will fight back, even to extreme and deadly outcomes.. violence on the other hand, is more of a seeking out a fight, and trying to find any and all reasons to start shit with anyone as long as it ends in a fight... atleast that's my interprutation of violence/defense...


as for the post that he wouldnt' of felt threatened/and probably would have won.. the guy that was involved in the beating, and posted here made a point of pointing out how small he was, and besides that, like i said before if you're not man/tough enough to do it yourself, don't do it... you should never get "in water over your head" so to speak, and that goes for more that fighting, an old time jailhouse saying "if you don't wanna do the time, don't do the crime" also, if you were just "minding your own buisness" so to speak (this part is sketchy/unclear) and someone just came up to you and started kicking the shit out of you, would be calm? would you just be like "wtf?" or would you feel threatened?

[sdffa11]

i think youre full of shit and you beat up a 5 year old who made fun of your ugly face

[JerryGarcia]

Violence only begets violence.

[Nightfox]

i wasnt talking about you really, mainly the ones who were completely against it.
but i still disagree, that man had spent half his life taking advantage of little girls.That rapist knew the girls could do nothing to stop him and that they were completely defenceless, so i think its only serving justice to put him in the same situation.If one person were to take him on he would have felt hardly any fear and probably would have won the fight, am i right??Thats not fucking justice.


thank you man for agreeing with me, that fucking sick fuck woudl of hardly a felt any pain. i don't think he could of beat my mate, but still i repeat when some one does shit like this, u do feel anger and frustrated, esp. when its some one u have know for a long time. and fuck u slipknot, seriosuly i would like to know what u would of done if some one would of messed with some one u feel about. even if u would of went one on one, i'm sure other member of ur family or ppl close to you would feel like doing the samething to the person that has hurt the person close to u. fuck all u think about is oh no it wasn't fair for the poor old bastard who got the shit kicked out of him. u guys are pussys. listen we would of all taken him one on one but the fucker deserved to really get the fuck knocked out of him.

[dankman]

u may happen to be retarded u called this man little and 40 ur 16 and 17 wow im pretty sure most juniors should be able to take one guy one on one and then u boast about beating his "ass" yah he diserves something but not a whoopin

[Psycho4Bud]

Hope ya kicked the sick fuckers nuts right up through his throat!!! NO MERCY for child molesters!!!

GOOD JOB!!!:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[slipknotpsycho]

fuck u slipknot, seriosuly i would like to know what u would of done if some one would of messed with some one u feel about. even if u would of went one on one, i'm sure other member of ur family or ppl close to you would feel like doing the samething to the person that has hurt the person close to u. fuck all u think about is oh no it wasn't fair for the poor old bastard who got the shit kicked out of him. u guys are pussys.

again, i don't believe he even did anything to your friends sister, or even tried, or even in any what of a near vicinity of her, the cops WOULD have done something and that's all there is to it. second of all, if my other family members were to do something after i beat his ass, they would have done it after i had done what i was going to do.. and btw, dont' call me a pussy when you were too scared to fight him one on one.. i seriously hope someday you get jumped for talking shit to the wrong person, or doing some other bullshit criminal activity such as vandalism, burglary, shoplifting i dont' care, i hope you get caught without all your pussy ass punk friends and get your ass beat by 4-5 people... maybe then you'll know what you put him through, doesn't make a fuck what anyone does (or what you say he did to justify finding out someone was a sex offender and deciding to go have fun at his expense) no one deserves that shit...

[Fengzi]

Out here in California we have a lot of mountain lions. I actually saw one about 2 miles from my house. About 1-2 times a year there will be a story in the paper about some poor hiker getting chomped by one of the critters. At the entrance to most hiking trails near my home are signs stating "you are entering a mountian lion habit", "they might be hungry", etc. Then the signs go on to state that if you are confronted by one you have two choices:

1. Become prey
2. Become a bigger, badder predator


Seems to me that pedophiles are like the mnt lions. So, which option will you choose if confronted by one?

[Nochowderforyou]

Damn, is this thread still going?

As I may have said before, no, this person didn't do the right thing getting 4 of his buddies to jump this guy. I think this story is fabricated as well. You live in a place, where a convicted child molester lives, and you leave a 7yr old unguarded? Hmmm...plus, him even getting that close without someone saying something, is highly unlikely. Again, how do you "pick-up" a 7yr old? With a smooth line or something, come on now. Also, if someone goes to prison for something like this, it is the police deparments duty to inform the local newscast and braodcast the warning. They do it here all of time. People should have known a crazy man was walking and prowling the streets. Getting that close to a 7yr old, again, won't happen.

I know what he has done to this girl will scar her for life, but this man served his time. He's going to have to live with the fact that he did this to someone. Not only that, you think this convict is going to be able to find work after this? A career? Hell no! His life is ruined for what he did. Everywhere he goes, that marking is on his record.

Maybe he did deserve some rough-housing. Maybe some of them do need a quick slap to the head to straighten them, but no matter how many bruises you put on this man, he is sick, in his brain, forever. These sick people are perm. like this. Are you going to stop them everytime they have an unpure thought? No, they will keep having these thoughts no matter what.

To prevent this from happening, first, you don't leave a 7yr old unattended. You keep close eye on your kids.

5 kids gang beating a man is not right. If you were going to rough house him up, at least say it face to face, not jumping out of bushes all at once. That's a pussy thing to do. All of the gangs should move to an island where they can all beat each other senseless.

I've been jumped by 3 guys for no reason before. Lying in a hospital bed drinking a steak smoothie, not being able to talk properly for months, is something no one should ever have to go through. No matter what crime they did.

[Nochowderforyou]

On another note to try and , *ahem* understand a sick mind.

A lot of us, we have feelings. When we make someone angry or sad, we feel something called guilt. Now, a lot of these criminals just don't have that part in their brain to compherhend that thought. When they hurt someone, they don't feel the guilt, they just don't. When they rape someone, they don't understand the pain it causes to the other person.

Just imagine trying to comprehend something that you know nothing of. Lets say you speak english, someone tells you to do something in French.......no connection right, you don't understand. That's whaT IT'S LIKE FOR THESE PEOPLE, sorry cap on.

What I'm trying to get at is there is pretty much nothing anyone can do for these people. That's how they are, that's how their brain works, and no amount of prison, beatings or talkings will make them understand.

[tupac2930]

[QUOTE=slipknotpsycho]first, learn to spell. second, i wish i could see you, better yet i wish i could catch you the middle of breaking into someone's house then twist your own shit on you, and have 4 friends and myself come kick the living shit out of you... but since you "deserve" it, i'm sure you wouldn't be whining and crying like a bitch right? nor would you seek revenge, cuz you, yourself agree people who do cirminal shit need their asses kicked, and no you can't just draw the line here and there... that's called being hypocritical... it's just like those christians who preech to you, til they're bleeding through their teeth, then, as soon as the bible and everything it stands for, gets in their way, it's ok to just toss it aside, because you can always go to church and ask for forgiveness...[/QUOy

your a piece of shit and can go fuck ur self that guy got what he deserved, if someone raped ur mother ur saying ur only going toe to toe with who ever it was, i think u should go to hell and suck a dick

[Nochowderforyou]

Settle down there "tupac"

Don't be making cyber fights, you'll look like a fool. Also, bring 4 of your friends over...proves that human nature is a complete pussy and can't do things on their own. Just a thought :)

[slipknotpsycho]

your a piece of shit and can go fuck ur self that guy got what he deserved, if someone raped ur mother ur saying ur only going toe to toe with who ever it was, i think u should go to hell and suck a dick

is that what they're teaching in 3rd grade these days? wow.. i think i'll send my son to private school then.

[Skink]

I see no point in what you did... You only satified your emotions,and could go to jail for it... There is only 2 things to do in this case,,, either kill him to solve the problem or leave him alone... Remember this is america and there is no justice,only people trying to steal what you have...

Skink

[partyguy420]

i know the effects of rape almost first hand as my girlfriend was raped for 3 years by her older brother.

same here, my current gf has had the same problem, but not as many years and by more then her brother, and im gonna leave her brother alone, but if i ever see one of the ppls that did it to her, i am gonna kill him, and i will make sure they never find his body agin, and i dont care that the guy is in some fucking gang, like the bloodz or what ever, ive got connects with the mexican moffia and plenty of other gangs, such as the criptzs Gs, Ds and the kings, so knowing that if i ever see this guy agin, im not even gonna think about one of his neabohrs hearing me pull shoot the mother fucker, i aint gonna worry about one of his friends hearing it was me. i will kill him cause my girl is 17 and this shit happend when she was 13, and shes still crys about it, and still has flash backs of it, i cant even tickel her feet with out her having a flash back cause the guy use to do it to her.

[opiuser]

I am extremely antiviolence. In almost every situation, it is stupid, it is greedy, and theres no point, like when you beat the shit out of someone cuz they owe you 500 bucks. gets some of ur anger out, but doesnt get your money.


but in this case, i beleive it was right. Theres a difference between violence and punishment. This guy was a chimo, he raped little children. HE FUCKING FUCKED LITTTLE KIDS. HE FUCKED KIDS. HE HE FUCKING RAPED KIDS. i dont know how many times i should say it before u get the point.

normally i dont even condone a slight punch. but in this case, i think that you guys didn't do enuf. This sick fuck should get his face bashed in, and every limb of his body broken. He should be bleeding like the children were. Then, he should be sent to prison, where a 380 pound black dude named Bruno rapes him for the rest of his pathetic life.


and by the way we stood there and smoked a couple of bowls after we beat his ass. haha

this however, i do not condone. Fuck you for relating our sweet goddess to violence.

Its dumbasses like you that give cannabis a bad name

[opiuser]

On another note to try and , *ahem* understand a sick mind.

A lot of us, we have feelings. When we make someone angry or sad, we feel something called guilt. Now, a lot of these criminals just don't have that part in their brain to compherhend that thought. When they hurt someone, they don't feel the guilt, they just don't. When they rape someone, they don't understand the pain it causes to the other person.

Just imagine trying to comprehend something that you know nothing of. Lets say you speak english, someone tells you to do something in French.......no connection right, you don't understand. That's whaT IT'S LIKE FOR THESE PEOPLE, sorry cap on.

What I'm trying to get at is there is pretty much nothing anyone can do for these people. That's how they are, that's how their brain works, and no amount of prison, beatings or talkings will make them understand.

he may not have felt guilty about it, but he knew he was causing them pain.

so this is no excuse... he has no guilt to tell him this is wrong, so instead lets show him with pain.

I knew this guy who killed people with no guilt, no remorse whatsoever. then he got shot thru his left lung, and died in the ambulance. he was gone for about 10 seconds, then they shocked him and he lived... long story short, he doesnt kill people anymore.

[daves19]

he may not have felt guilty about it, but he knew he was causing them pain.

so this is no excuse... he has no guilt to tell him this is wrong, so instead lets show him with pain.

I knew this guy who killed people with no guilt, no remorse whatsoever. then he got shot thru his left lung, and died in the ambulance. he was gone for about 10 seconds, then they shocked him and he lived... long story short, he doesnt kill people anymore.

so then the guy should have been raped instead of beaten up...

the problem is also, in beating a guy there is no evolution of the situation...please nightfox put your pride apart and if you see this guy again in the newspaper for child molesting shame yourself, you only acted on a compulsive thougt of anger...if the guy is in the newspaper for saving several lifes than you did the right thing...

no matter how big we think we are, a 7yr old girl being raped or a 40 yr old mentally handicaped getting beating is the same thing, just not happening to the same person...but still life continues...as we saw in this thread doing the right or wrong is a matter of perception...i agree with slipknot dude as much as i agree with that dude and his satanist thought...only time can tell the good from the bad as we all have different life and experience that biaise our conception of good and bad...

but what you shouldn't forget is nothing is lost and nothing is created...which means all energies spended are replaced not added or suppressed...after understanding this i would prefer to die than to kill somebody from my own personnal anger...my youger sister got raped at school from a 3 yrs older guy, i felt so angered i wanted to litterally dismantle each limbs and teeth from the guy...when i confronted him( at least a foot taller than I) i only stared at him, he didn't move or jumped on me (he knew why i was there) and tried to like him to see good in him, understand him...i met this guy some 2 yrs later, good looking dude pretty engaged pretty straight, never heard of anything bad from him...

so i saw that life in it's most raw form doesn't need any intervention, it will take care of itself...

[chisme]

ok so there is this guy, a child molester. he just gets out of prison for being a complete sicko for molesting children. so he is not aloud near children. so up the town he is seen trying to pick up my best mates sister who is 7. these guys stop him and come and tell us. so tonight we caught him coming out of the bar. we followed him back to where he lives, and jumped him. now this guy is like 40 somehting, small and fucking creepy. we are all 16 and 17 there is 5 of us. we kick the fuck out of him, and smash his cell phone. he will probably need an ambulance, but i think he got what he deserves that sick fucker. plz tell me if this was the right thing to do, adn what would u of done. mind the police were told what he tried to do, and they said nothing could be done cause we had no evdience. so i think he got what he deserves, hes now lying in an alley, but i still think we did the right thing.


it was right man no weustion you dun good

[chisme]

ok so there is this guy, a child molester. he just gets out of prison for being a complete sicko for molesting children. so he is not aloud near children. so up the town he is seen trying to pick up my best mates sister who is 7. these guys stop him and come and tell us. so tonight we caught him coming out of the bar. we followed him back to where he lives, and jumped him. now this guy is like 40 somehting, small and fucking creepy. we are all 16 and 17 there is 5 of us. we kick the fuck out of him, and smash his cell phone. he will probably need an ambulance, but i think he got what he deserves that sick fucker. plz tell me if this was the right thing to do, adn what would u of done. mind the police were told what he tried to do, and they said nothing could be done cause we had no evdience. so i think he got what he deserves, hes now lying in an alley, but i still think we did the right thing.


it was right man no qeustion you dun good

[newbie1232]

Attacking a defenseless person is no different than attacking a person who can defend his or herself. They are equally wrong.

I agree 100% with what you and slipknot have said. This is the reason there are laws and rights in America. So things like this DON'T HAPPEN! Assault and Battery. just like the pedophile, you commited a crime. Obviously not on the same levels of crime, but it was still a crime. Your violence didn't solve anything. You guys do realize that some people feel the same way about cannabis, right? Imagine if you walk down the street and 5 guys who hated "long haired hippy freaks" came out of nowhere and jumped you.

This is the reason there are laws and rights in America. This is the reason people study the law. Can you imagine if you went to court, if the guy sued?
What do you think you are? A vigilante? Yeah, that's real fair, he didn't get due process, a judge of his peers, nothing, all he got was a boot to the face.
He had done his time, he had done everything the court had asked of him. A judge and a jury is a lot smarter than a couple of punks who think they're delivering "justice".

You solved nothing. You think you're upholding the law? Think again. For years the constitution and the law has existed, all run by many educated people, there's nothing wrong with the law. Where you there when he got convicted? Where you there when the jury deliberated? Where you there when the evidence was presented? No. You're not upholding the law, you're just a couple of stupid punks trying to "prevent" a crime.

If the police said there wasn't enough evidence, there probably wasn't. It wasn't up to you to decide to do anything.

Also, I'm not Christian.

/rant

[bobzzz]

i would have done the same, except having 5 friends and smoking after. your just making cannabis users look bad by smoking after you beat the shit out of him. needless to say if he was trying to pick up a little kid and had previous charges for child molesting, he deserved every bit of it. someone beat the shit out of my little brother so i fucked up the guy who did it. i wouldnt come on a cannabis forum and ask if i did the right thing though. and to those who say his violence didnt solve anything and that hes just as bad, shutup. anyone who shows sympathy for child molesters deserves to be put in jail. you hear about all these people who kidnap and rape kids and get a few years in prison when they should just be taken out and shot. that is REAL justice

[daves19]

i would have done the same, except having 5 friends and smoking after. your just making cannabis users look bad by smoking after you beat the shit out of him. needless to say if he was trying to pick up a little kid and had previous charges for child molesting, he deserved every bit of it. someone beat the shit out of my little brother so i fucked up the guy who did it. i wouldnt come on a cannabis forum and ask if i did the right thing though. and to those who say his violence didnt solve anything and that hes just as bad, shutup. anyone who shows sympathy for child molesters deserves to be put in jail. you hear about all these people who kidnap and rape kids and get a few years in prison when they should just be taken out and shot. that is REAL justice

that is YOUR justice...

[Gary610DK]

u better hope the guy didnt see who you were and tracks you down and kills you in your sleep.... lol. if hes crazy enough to molest little children then he is probably crazy enough for murder. watch yaself mang

[Not Enough Herb]

and if i was a christian, would i be smoking pot?

im christian, and ive done more drugs then you've probably seen. relegion has nothing to do with how someone spends their free time

if it was my sister i would have gone alone and fought the guy one on one, man to man, the only fair way to do it. Everyone needs to see it from nightfox's p.o.v, what if it was your sister, or little brother, would you be so kind and loving then?

i think not

kiss my ass

later

[Loudogg]

I say good fuckin job. I am not a violent man, but I've got a ten year old sister, and if any sick fucker ever even thought about fucking with her, I'd do the same exact thing, except he'd need a hearse, not an ambulance. Like I said, I am mostly non-violent, but to protect my blood, I'd spill someone elses. Right on man. By the way guys, I am a law enforcement major in college, and I will tell you same as anyone else, the police can't always offer justice. I just hope this shit doesn't catch up with you man. That's serious assault.

[dopefiend]

I think you came close to doing the right thing. You should have went there yourself, kicked his ass, then left. Don't bring friends and Mary-Jane into the picture: that's wrong.

[da haze meister]

dude nightfox you asked for our opinions so shut the fuck up with this shit if he (slipknot) has an opinion you dont like fucking live with it.
on the molester issue, i believe if he had to be beat up, it shoulda been toe to toe with someone.

[AcidFreak]

You guys suck. Some people, plain and simple, deserve to have their asses kicked. I'd probably have done more than that if he tried to pick up my sister.

[slipknotpsycho]

dude nightfox you asked for our opinions so shut the fuck up with this shit if he (slipknot) has an opinion you dont like fucking live with it.
on the molester issue, i believe if he had to be beat up, it shoulda been toe to toe with someone.
finally someone put shit in simpler enough terms, anyways... i'm going back to not posting here, cuz this thread is going nowhere... in actuallity, some people see how violence doesn't solve things, some people see how the law doesn't deal with shit effectively enough....this subject will never be 100% percent no matter what so i quit arguing in this. i'll make my stance one last time, most (not all) of these people are never able to be rehabillitated, and continue to re-offend, something obviously needs to be done, violence isn't the answer, personally if you saw past the rage/anger (and actually i can't really blame you) then you'd see it's much better to have the dude/chick locked up for life, with no chance of seeing the free world again, then beating his ass, and possibly being charged yourself with a crime, meanwhile he walks around molesting other children. something needs to be done, i agree 100%, but beating their ass regaurdless of how many people, will NOT solve the problem, even killling them would be solving the problem (all-though, the way i see it is... if they're dead they dont' suffer cuz i don't believe in heaven or hell, but if they're rotting their ass away in a cell, withno chance of seeing the freeworld again, that's pain.. no matter how much you disliked it.. anyone that's been locked up even for more than a week, would know what i'm talking about.

[endo..jay]

i had a guy the other day said he would cut off a few fingers of ppl for a few big bills

[Jorbens]

dont beat anyone up!

i get beat up all the time for being a little nerd or something, anyways its not fun ok

[robert42]

should of raped him instead

eye for a eye

[imagoober]

eveyones mad cause a gang beat him up! fuck i thought the child molester was the bad guy! and for all of you that think he was wrong to harm him eat shit i would like to see what would have done. pay for rehab? fucking POS. Jorbens that was the fucking stupidest post! im sorry you get beat up, thats wrong, but you situation is nothing like this one! nightfox you did a public service in my book. obviously the justice system did not work! robert42 right on, the least i would like to see is the fucker get castrated. if that was my sister he was trying to pick up, i would without a doubt kill him! oh and i would enjoy it! thats my 2 cents

[midlifecrisis]

ok so there is this guy, a child molester. he just gets out of prison for being a complete sicko for molesting children. so he is not aloud near children. so up the town he is seen trying to pick up my best mates sister who is 7. these guys stop him and come and tell us. so tonight we caught him coming out of the bar. we followed him back to where he lives, and jumped him. now this guy is like 40 somehting, small and fucking creepy. we are all 16 and 17 there is 5 of us. we kick the fuck out of him, and smash his cell phone. he will probably need an ambulance, but i think he got what he deserves that sick fucker. plz tell me if this was the right thing to do, adn what would u of done. mind the police were told what he tried to do, and they said nothing could be done cause we had no evdience. so i think he got what he deserves, hes now lying in an alley, but i still think we did the right thing.


Socially responsible response: One should not take justice into their own hands, that is what makes us civilized.:confused:


If it was my child response: Sweet justice.....:thumbsup:


Child molesters are sick! We as a society do not have a "cure" to stop there behavior so why do we let them back into society...The only cure is to deter!;)


Do be careful about braggin, in this world you may end up in the system.

[420purplehaze420]

Child molesters are sick! We as a society do not have a "cure" to stop there behavior so why do we let them back into society...The only cure is to deter!;)

o we have a cure its called hedge clippers i think repeat offenders should be castrated, the punishment fits the crime

and newbie your example is ludacris people beating someone up for smoking weed and dressing a certain way IS WAY WORSE then beating up a sick twisted child molestor

[VoidLivesOn]

DAYUM, SON!

THAT'S FUCKING ANTI-PACIFISM, RIGHT THERE!

He needed a punishment one way or another...

You hurt a fellow human being!

Child molesters are sick fuckers and need to be locked up or killed...

You hurt a fellow human being!!

Studies have shown that pedophilia is uncurable and that once a person has fallen in to a pedophile lifestyle, they will never be able to quit.

Give the poor fellow a chance!!!

The "poor fellow" had it coming. He's a complete pervert and needs to be put out of his misery. You should have killed him.

But he's a fellow human being!!!!

Killing one human to defend many is a sacred duty. Just because it's immoral to kill doesn't mean it's moral to let the incurably immoral run free.

...Ya got me there...

Yeah, I know.

Here goes a rant:

There are 3 things every person has in this world.

A mind.

A spirit.

And a body.

It is your duty, and your duty ALONE to make sure that the needs of all three are always being met. You can't lean on the strong to make up for your weakness, you need to grow on your own. If you are unable to learn and grow, then you don't need to. If you are too weak to survive when your learning and growing periods end, then sorry, bud, hope the afterlife's nice.

It is also your sacred duty, although it takes second place to the one above, to help out the people around you who are struggling to learn and grow. Remember: Lending a hand is one thing, doing the job for them is another. If you lend a hand, you both will grow, however slightly. If you do the job for them, you grow, but the other person flails in their own helplessness. Let your fellow man grow with you, and lend a hand.

The mind: Your ability to think and rationalize events.

Kept healthy by: Reading, doing mind-intensive activities such as crosswords, word searches, puzzles, whatever keeps you fresh.

Help others by: Giving them oppurtunities to learn and grow in their mind. If they don't want it, don't force it upon them. This will eventually detract from your own ability to grow, negating the first sacred duty.

Harmed by: Sloth, atrophy. If you don't keep it active, it loses its strength.

The Spirit: Your consciousness and awareness of the universe.

Kept healthy by: Experimenting with "mind-expanding" drugs as the shamans do, reading meaningful books, questioning everything, staying in touch with your spirits worldly wants and needs (they vary from person to person).

Help others by: Preaching your spirituality, let others learn about you and you in turn will learn about them. Help others to question things that happen every day. Teach others to act based on what they want to do, not what others want them to do.

Harmed by: Experiences and sensations that vary from person to person.


The Body: Your physical attachment to the tangible universe.

Kept healthy by: Not overdoing any one pleasurable thing. As long as you can keep your body as a shell for your mind and spirit, which your body is, it's fine. It doesn't matter if you can run a mile or not, just make sure that you aren't in danger of dropping dead at any time.

Help others by: Getting them out of harm's way, while protecting yourself in the process. Exercise buddies are good, too. Just don't think of the exercise as a pain, think of it as keeping your body pleased with you.

Harmed by: Apathy, Atrophy, Sloth, Gluttony, Any number of pathogens, random happenings that result in severe pain, maiming, and death.

Hmm where did you steal that from? But if you didn't anyone could think up that sort of bullshit with the time and a thesaurus.

[halo]

I believe the only person who could solve this would be the one and only

CHUCK NORRIS

el fin

[DazedandConfused]

hey man im not saying anyones right, but it's stupid for a mob of people to beat up on one person. you can easily get carried away and kill the dude. it's not like it's a one on one fight where he's receiving one blow at a time, this dudes being beat on by however many people were with you, so he's getting like 5x or whatever more damage than with one guy. you lucky this didn't happen man.

"Saturday, February 4, 2006
MILWAUKEE - A teenager convicted in a mob beating of a mentally disabled Vietnam veteran was sentenced to 10 years in prison Friday.

James B. Myles, 19, was found guilty Dec. 16 of second-degree reckless homicide in the attack on David Rutledge, 54, who died from his injuries four days after being beaten while he clutched his Bible.

Circuit Judge Mel Flanagan said Myles likely wasn't the ringleader in the attack, but the brutality shown by the teens required a severe sentence. She also gave him eight years of extended supervision and a fine of more than $7,000 for Rutledge's funeral costs.

Rutledge, who had schizophrenia, was attacked near a facility for people with disabilities where he lived. Police said the group robbed and beat him, fracturing his skull in the process.

Charges against five others were all dismissed without prejudice, so that if more evidence were to become available, those individuals could be prosecuted."

[thcbongman]

I believe the only person who could solve this would be the one and only

CHUCK NORRIS

el fin

Before the days of email, Chuck Norris would take pigeons and roundhouse kick them.

[DazedandConfused]

i had a guy the other day said he would cut off a few fingers of ppl for a few big bills

Yeah some people are just fuckin twisted man. There was this fat dude who thought he was bad ass cause he wrestles, and i saw a guy give him 5 bucks to walk up to this random guy, never seen him before, just sitting down eating his food, and punch the guy in the face. of course his fat ass did it, and the guy just kinda sat there i mean he fuckin punched the dude hard. he looked like he just wanted to cry. what a fuckin puss man, he could have went up and punched like another fat ass ya know, those kinda people are just fuckin weirdos man. i would have loved to see the dude just drop his food and be like "you son of a bitch" and "POW!" and knock his fat ass on the ground

[spliffstar22]

All you guys saying you wouldn't use violence are talking shit, think of it this way: what if it was your sister?(if you have a sister, or just picture you do) If i knew some child molesting fuck tried to even speak to my young sister i'd be pissed, especially if he wasn't even allowed to talk to minors. If he knows you, you better lay low, cause he could go to the cops, and you're gonna get charged with assault, pre-meditated assault cause you waited outside the bar for him, to kick his ass, and that's some serious shit. Just lay low.

[Kippo]

At least nobody saw you smoking a few bowls after you beat the shit out of him, otherwise slipknotpsycho's right, the media would've pounced on that opportunity to badmouth weed.

On the other hand, I wouldn't have sat back either if someone like that came on to my sister. As long as you didn't kill him or physically fuck him up for life I see it as justice being done. He obviously didn't get ass raped enough times in prison to learn his lesson.

I would've gone to the bar, slipped a few blotters of acid into his drink, and scared the shit out of him for about an hour until he cried with fright!

[slipknotpsycho]

He obviously didn't get ass raped enough times in prison to learn his lesson.
that's because in most prison systems they are kept far away and safe from other inmates...

[Kippo]

S.psycho, I know you said that it was completely wrong to do what he did to that sick fuck, but if that was you in that situation, it was your sister being come on to, and the police couldn't arrest the guy for lack of evidence, what would you do for justice? Cos if it was me, it would've felt completely wrong to let it go, in case something more serious happened to my sister. I'd be happy to just beat the shit out of him (not so badly that he'd have to go to hospital), or go ahead with my acid idea

[slipknotpsycho]

i guess that's where i'm seperate from everyone else here.. i don't go seeking revenge and call it justice... i woudln't just stand by and let some shit like that happen, but i woudlnt' go beating the guy sensless becasue that does nothing... i'd find some other way to make him pay, shit if it came down to it... i'd get someone to knock him out (so no one saw me do it) and buy about 1000 dollars worth the coke/crack put it all in little baggys and slip it on him, then call the cops and tell him he tried to sell the shit to my little sister... that'd keep him off the streets for awhile, plus.. since he went to prison for drugs, he wouldn't be seperated from the other criminals... and they have ways of finding out shit like that...

[PureEvil760]

GOOD FUCKING JOB now..when he recovers DO IT AGAIN

[Kippo]

i guess that's where i'm seperate from everyone else here.. i don't go seeking revenge and call it justice... i woudln't just stand by and let some shit like that happen, but i woudlnt' go beating the guy sensless becasue that does nothing... i'd find some other way to make him pay, shit if it came down to it... i'd get someone to knock him out (so no one saw me do it) and buy about 1000 dollars worth the coke/crack put it all in little baggys and slip it on him, then call the cops and tell him he tried to sell the shit to my little sister... that'd keep him off the streets for awhile, plus.. since he went to prison for drugs, he wouldn't be seperated from the other criminals... and they have ways of finding out shit like that...

Sounds like a good idea too. That'd teach him his lesson....

[Nochowderforyou]

i'd get someone to knock him out (so no one saw me do it) and buy about 1000 dollars worth the coke/crack put it all in little baggys and slip it on him, then call the cops and tell him he tried to sell the shit to my little sister...

Even better, if you're going to spend a $1000 worthg of crack cocaine, why not go a step further and get him horribly addicted to crack? Just keep feeding him drugs until he's tweaking out hard. After 4 days of no sleep, send him out on the streets and let him loose. :D

[slipknotpsycho]

Even better, if you're going to spend a $1000 worthg of crack cocaine, why not go a step further and get him horribly addicted to crack? Just keep feeding him drugs until he's tweaking out hard. After 4 days of no sleep, send him out on the streets and let him loose. :D
becasue people like that have the potential to mess up other's lifes for good, rob someone and it goes wrong he freaks out and stabs someone, break into someone's house to steal shit to sell to get crack, any number of reasons, i'd rather just spend the 1k and have his ass in prison for awhile, america may not do shit about child molesters but they sure as hell do shit about crack dealers...

[daves19]

so then the guy should have been raped instead of beaten up...

the problem is also, in beating a guy there is no evolution of the situation...please nightfox put your pride apart and if you see this guy again in the newspaper for child molesting shame yourself, you only acted on a compulsive thougt of anger...if the guy is in the newspaper for saving several lifes than you did the right thing...

no matter how big we think we are, a 7yr old girl being raped or a 40 yr old mentally handicaped getting beating is the same thing, just not happening to the same person...but still life continues...as we saw in this thread doing the right or wrong is a matter of perception...i agree with slipknot dude as much as i agree with that dude and his satanist thought...only time can tell the good from the bad as we all have different life and experience that biaise our conception of good and bad...

but what you shouldn't forget is nothing is lost and nothing is created...which means all energies spended are replaced not added or suppressed...after understanding this i would prefer to die than to kill somebody from my own personnal anger...my youger sister got raped at school from a 3 yrs older guy, i felt so angered i wanted to litterally dismantle each limbs and teeth from the guy...when i confronted him( at least a foot taller than I) i only stared at him, he didn't move or jumped on me (he knew why i was there) and tried to like him to see good in him, understand him...i met this guy some 2 yrs later, good looking dude pretty engaged pretty straight, never heard of anything bad from him...

so i saw that life in it's most raw form doesn't need any intervention, it will take care of itself...

[CocaCola]

None of you know what justice is. Jumping out of nowhere to assault some guy is not justice. The guy most likely has close family as well... and what if you killed him? You're destroying that love between him and HIS family. You only care about yours... understandable... but you still could have dealt with someone talking to your friends sister a little better.

[FindingTim]

I think that you should have simply threatened him verbally. Also, the thought of a single man getting jumped by several makes me sick. I hate to see helpless people, whether they deserve it or not. By the way, you should try listening to Bad town by Operation Ivy, and read the lyrics of it online. It is short but has a lot to do with what you did to this man

[JaiPeur]

You had no right to do what you did.

You had no evidence that this man was still continuing to molest children and YOU YOURSELF committed a crime when you attacked the man.

If I knew who you were I'd probably call the police, you must be stopped before you are able to cause any more damage to society.

Oh, and please learn to type.

[alex32]

This is one of the times you would be walking up and down thinking to yourself all the harm you want to do to this guy. I think going 5 on 1 is a bit over the top, but 1 on 1, a 15 year old against a 40 year old doesnt look good for the 15 year old, all of you people saying that you would have gone one on one dont even know how big these 15 year olds are, i am 16 and not big at all and know i couldnt take on a 40 year old. I would have got this paedo, and got people to hold him, and 'tell im not to do it again' inflicting a reasonable amount of damage of course. Now that is not being cowardly, if you cant beat him up yourself. You dont go looking for this guy to be beat up by him. Paedos deserve that shit. If you say 5 on 1 is wrong, HOW ABOUT A 40 YEAR OLD AGAINST A 5 YEAR OLD!!!!

[Az.]

don't be a pussy about it, fight one on one... or do whatever by yourself, if you aren't ballsy enough to do it by yourself, then don't fuckin do it...

I completly agree....100%
Ganging up on people is fucking lame....

[dog420]

Plastic Gangsters!

[JaiPeur]

It literally terrifies me that one day countries and governments could be run by some of you people.

[del...]

the guy is probably dust by now anyway...this happened several months ago.

[slipknotpsycho]

I think that you should have simply threatened him verbally. Also, the thought of a single man getting jumped by several makes me sick. I hate to see helpless people, whether they deserve it or not. By the way, you should try listening to Bad town by Operation Ivy, and read the lyrics of it online. It is short but has a lot to do with what you did to this man
i can't believe this thread came back....


They call it a scene I call it disaster
Down here the kids grow up faster
Scared they're scared to the bone
Like a pack of wolves they don't run alone
One on one they won't look you in the eye
But when the pack's together there's a battle cry
I saw it fifteen on one
When the crowd dispersed the kid was done
No (no more)
No (bad town)
No more bad town
Yeah down there you gotta have a label
Just like a cattle in a stable
Knee jerk reaction I call it violence
Why speak out when you could be silenced
Down there on the dance floor
Too much violence I dont want more
Down there out on the street
I can see the air I can see the heat
[Chorus]


alex, there is no way to justify ganging up on one person, it doesn't matter what the stipulations of it are.. like i said, if you can't do it yourself, don't fucking do it.. if he's still doing this shit, eventually he'll get what's coming to him, next time he 'tried' he may even get shot right then and there... a bunch of punk kids ganging up on him and beating him isn't teaching him anything, but that he has to be more careful about what he's doing and how he does it. as for the size comments.... just as we don't know how big these kids are, you don't know how big the 40 year old is...

[Flesh420]

Go beat his ass again. I dont give a shit if i get flammed but i would have done the same thing if that was my sis and the cops said that we had evidence fuck that.. What if he got ahold of her. But i dont agree with beating him with 5 people lol

[UIowaHawk17]

Why the hell would you attack the guy 5 on 1 or w/e it was? Thats assualt any way you slice it. You and your friends deserve to be charged just as much as that guy does for his crimes.

I don't think what that guy did is ok. Its good to stick up for your friends and their family, but you went a little to far when you attacked him.

[muncheemama]

DAYUM, SON!

THAT'S FUCKING ANTI-PACIFISM, RIGHT THERE!

He needed a punishment one way or another...

You hurt a fellow human being!

Child molesters are sick fuckers and need to be locked up or killed...

You hurt a fellow human being!!

Studies have shown that pedophilia is uncurable and that once a person has fallen in to a pedophile lifestyle, they will never be able to quit.

Give the poor fellow a chance!!!

The "poor fellow" had it coming. He's a complete pervert and needs to be put out of his misery. You should have killed him.

But he's a fellow human being!!!!

Killing one human to defend many is a sacred duty. Just because it's immoral to kill doesn't mean it's moral to let the incurably immoral run free.

...Ya got me there...

Yeah, I know.

Here goes a rant:

There are 3 things every person has in this world.

A mind.

A spirit.

And a body.

It is your duty, and your duty ALONE to make sure that the needs of all three are always being met. You can't lean on the strong to make up for your weakness, you need to grow on your own. If you are unable to learn and grow, then you don't need to. If you are too weak to survive when your learning and growing periods end, then sorry, bud, hope the afterlife's nice.

It is also your sacred duty, although it takes second place to the one above, to help out the people around you who are struggling to learn and grow. Remember: Lending a hand is one thing, doing the job for them is another. If you lend a hand, you both will grow, however slightly. If you do the job for them, you grow, but the other person flails in their own helplessness. Let your fellow man grow with you, and lend a hand.

The mind: Your ability to think and rationalize events.

Kept healthy by: Reading, doing mind-intensive activities such as crosswords, word searches, puzzles, whatever keeps you fresh.

Help others by: Giving them oppurtunities to learn and grow in their mind. If they don't want it, don't force it upon them. This will eventually detract from your own ability to grow, negating the first sacred duty.

Harmed by: Sloth, atrophy. If you don't keep it active, it loses its strength.

The Spirit: Your consciousness and awareness of the universe.

Kept healthy by: Experimenting with "mind-expanding" drugs as the shamans do, reading meaningful books, questioning everything, staying in touch with your spirits worldly wants and needs (they vary from person to person).

Help others by: Preaching your spirituality, let others learn about you and you in turn will learn about them. Help others to question things that happen every day. Teach others to act based on what they want to do, not what others want them to do.

Harmed by: Experiences and sensations that vary from person to person.


The Body: Your physical attachment to the tangible universe.

Kept healthy by: Not overdoing any one pleasurable thing. As long as you can keep your body as a shell for your mind and spirit, which your body is, it's fine. It doesn't matter if you can run a mile or not, just make sure that you aren't in danger of dropping dead at any time.

Help others by: Getting them out of harm's way, while protecting yourself in the process. Exercise buddies are good, too. Just don't think of the exercise as a pain, think of it as keeping your body pleased with you.

Harmed by: Apathy, Atrophy, Sloth, Gluttony, Any number of pathogens, random happenings that result in severe pain, maiming, and death.
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[ERBA]

I dont ever believe violence solves anything but this asshole deserves what he got times ten.

[Shelbay]

It literally terrifies me that one day countries and governments could be run by some of you people.
I have also thought that...thats why I say sometimes I fear my "fellow man" more than our government or terrorists. Child Molesters are scum but sometimes you have to do things the right way or you become just like what you hate the most.

[newbie1232]

Whoa, who revived this thread? Everyone watch carefully, I think we have a zombie amongst us.....<_<......>_>......:stoned:

[tootsie roll]

ok so there is this guy, a child molester. he just gets out of prison for being a complete sicko for molesting children. so he is not aloud near children. so up the town he is seen trying to pick up my best mates sister who is 7. these guys stop him and come and tell us. so tonight we caught him coming out of the bar. we followed him back to where he lives, and jumped him. now this guy is like 40 somehting, small and fucking creepy. we are all 16 and 17 there is 5 of us. we kick the fuck out of him, and smash his cell phone. he will probably need an ambulance, but i think he got what he deserves that sick fucker. plz tell me if this was the right thing to do, adn what would u of done. mind the police were told what he tried to do, and they said nothing could be done cause we had no evdience. so i think he got what he deserves, hes now lying in an alley, but i still think we did the right thing.


I never advocate violence EXCEPT for something like this. I hope you guys kicked the absolute crap out of that asshole. He's just another Joseph Smith looking for another poor Carlie Brucia. I still can't get the image out of my head of that bastard taking her away. Yeah, you did the right thing.

I see this is an older thread but that's ok. I'll keep reading.

[slipknotpsycho]

can someone please explain why it's justified to beat some guy within an inch of his life because you feel strongly against what he did? i wish people would fucking listen to what they say, before they say it. i know people who are strongly against weed, even think it's from the devil... does that mean just becuase they believe strongly against it, that they have a right to gather 4-5 friends and commence to kick the living shit out of you?

there's people that feel very strongly against drunks, and alcoholics, does that mean they have the right to string them all up, and use them for human pinata's?

there's people that are strongly against guns, does that mean they have the right to round up the whole lot of everyone that owns a gun, and kill them?

yea what the dude did was wrong, no one's debating that fact, but you can't justify beating the shit out of some guy, just because you feel strongly against, or even most feel strongly against it.

what about the gangs that shoot up neighbor hoods and kill kids, what about the cars that are destroying our planet, what about every other spec of 'scum' on this earth, i dont' see a thread congratulating a bunch of punk kids for kicking the shit out of them...

again, think about what you say, before you say it.

[CocaCola]

I never advocate violence EXCEPT for something like this. I hope you guys kicked the absolute crap out of that asshole. He's just another Joseph Smith looking for another poor Carlie Brucia. I still can't get the image out of my head of that bastard taking her away. Yeah, you did the right thing.

I see this is an older thread but that's ok. I'll keep reading.

No, he isn't just some other guy... he's his own person. I think you're an idiot, so I'm going to kick your fucking face into the curb.

[OtterPop]

Nightfox I woulda been right there with you but i would say 2 shoulda been the max people to shitcan that fuckstick. You shoulda had 2 kick the shit outta him and then afterwards tell him he better stay the fuck away and do a lil somethin extra to get your point across crystal clear. Id pat ya on the back and smoke you a fat J for that righteous violence haha! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Doctor mj]

Dont mind the pussy non violent people here.
I mean i dont believe in violence, except if murder or child molestation is commited.
Murderers should be killed in public
same goes with child molestors.
Violence is Wrong. But should a murderer get to live a free life?
Good for you dude, i would of done the same thing.
K+

[CocaCola]

Um... should you get to live a free life? What in the fuck are you doing with YOUR life?

Fucking brainwashed people.

[SweetRedLips]

Im sorry I dont uasually agre with voilence
but these kind of people are sick and if the police cant do there job
then you was right to do what you do .Hope he feels the pain like he made all those young kiddies feel SICKO
good on ya Hunny

Seeya

SweetRed

[CocaCola]

It was a planned assault. And it wasn't a crime of passion either... it was pre-meditated assault. I could understand if the person punched the guy square in the face after that happened but insted... he chose to group a bunch of people together to jump the guy and "smoke a bowl" afterwards. It isn't right. It's too late to do anything about it... what's done is done. But you people keep going on about this like the guy should get beat up some more. You people have fucking problems.

[SweetRedLips]

It was a planned assault. And it wasn't a crime of passion either... it was pre-meditated assault. I could understand if the person punched the guy square in the face after that happened but insted... he chose to group a bunch of people together to jump the guy and "smoke a bowl" afterwards. It isn't right. It's too late to do anything about it... what's done is done. But you people keep going on about this like the guy should get beat up some more. You people have fucking problems.

I understand what you are saying and no I dont think he should get more
of the same and ok maybe 5 people was over the top .But I dont like usally to
broadcast my personal stuff.But when its happened to you as it did to
me for 4 year of my own dad and he also walked away scott free you kind of have a more negative view :mad:

Seeya


SweetRed

[CocaCola]

I understand. But you shouldn't throw your own personal trash into someone else's bin, you know what I mean? My mother was abused as a child by her uncle... I've met him, soon before he had to go to the hospital which was soon before he died. I knew about what happened but I treated him like I would treat anybody else and I realized that despite his actions in the past, he was a still a nice guy. Good to talk to and a good person at heart. I've never even seen or heard from the guy once before that day.

[SweetRedLips]

I understand. But you shouldn't throw your own personal trash into someone else's bin, you know what I mean? My mother was abused as a child by her uncle... I've met him, soon before he had to go to the hospital which was soon before he died. I knew about what happened but I treated him like I would treat anybody else and I realized that despite his actions in the past, he was a still a nice guy. Good to talk to and a good person at heart. I've never even seen or heard from the guy once before that day.

Yes I understand what you are saying and to me weird as it may seem
my dad is a nice guy and I dont hate him never will .But I dont forgive him
either .But I dont think him being beat up would help me or him .My brother saw him ages ago and done him in bad when I found out I went mad .
It didnt make eveything better for me I just think he should be left to live his life and same with me .:thumbsup:

Seeya

SweetRed

[Chaos]

i woulda knocked the shit outta him to...thats sick...anyone that does that shit deserves what they get....

[SweetRedLips]

Yes but Chaos dont you think for what I went through Ive turned
out pretty good .

Seeya

SweetRed :)

[OtterPop]

Um... should you get to live a free life? What in the fuck are you doing with YOUR life?

Fucking brainwashed people.


You know id be willing to put YOU and the chimo in the fuckin grave for being defensive towards the rights of a sick chimo ya bucket of shit. IMO after those acts are commited you are no longer a human with rights, your a monster who needs to be slain. Luckly no poor molester crosses my family, fugger would be one sorry pathetic fuck if i got to him first. Honestly I could care less what happens to a molester, torture the fugger for all I care. I dont know the statistics but I bet you alot become 2nd 3rd ect offenders. Hurting kids is fucked up and I clearly dont see how you can defend a chimo and his/her rights.....

Maybe you should be a defense attorney....

[CocaCola]

Yes I understand what you are saying and to me weird as it may seem
my dad is a nice guy and I dont hate him never will .But I dont forgive him
either .But I dont think him being beat up would help me or him .My brother saw him ages ago and done him in bad when I found out I went mad .
It didnt make eveything better for me I just think he should be left to live his life and same with me .:thumbsup:

Seeya

SweetRed

If you don't hate him then why not forgive him?

[CocaCola]

You know id be willing to put YOU and the chimo in the fuckin grave for being defensive towards the rights of a sick chimo ya bucket of shit. IMO after those acts are commited you are no longer a human with rights, your a monster who needs to be slain. Luckly no poor molester crosses my family, fugger would be one sorry pathetic fuck if i got to him first. Honestly I could care less what happens to a molester, torture the fugger for all I care. I dont know the statistics but I bet you alot become 2nd 3rd ect offenders. Hurting kids is fucked up and I clearly dont see how you can defend a chimo and his/her rights.....

Maybe you should be a defense attorney....

I'm not defending the guy, you shithead. I don't know the guy. Fuck, you're a brick.

[SweetRedLips]

If you don't hate him then why not forgive him?


Im not sure on that 1 myself I do want to but I dont think Id ever
be able to see him again .I mean what am I meant to say to him now he may be my dad but last time I saw him I was 14 just before I went to court over him and Im now 26.So its not a easy one any suggestions if I did meet him not saying Im gonna just asking.

Seeya

SweetRed

[HiddenBeauty]

I am 33 now but when I was much younger we kids could go anywhere on our own but now you cant let your kids out of your sight because of the worry of some pervert.The craziest thing in England is them releasing these people and housing them near a school so I can see why parents are pretty pissed off but they wont be happy until the pedo's are locked up for good.

I dont think there is any point in violence because it doesnt solve anything I mean that guy would of healed and still wanted little kids.I cant help thinking that these guys are the kids that were abused themselves and it is like a vicious circle unless we look after our kids now and not brush crap like this under the carpet hoping the kid will just forget it happened.

I have heard a few innocent stories so make sure you get your facts right before you go round beating people up.

[CocaCola]

Im not sure on that 1 myself I do want to but I dont think Id ever
be able to see him again .I mean what am I meant to say to him now he may be my dad but last time I saw him I was 14 just before I went to court over him and Im now 26.So its not a easy one any suggestions if I did meet him not saying Im gonna just asking.

Seeya

SweetRed
So you're only 26? I see... Well, it's all up to you; when you're ready, you should call him or something.

[Dr.Smokealot]

hell ya thats the right thing to do

[iwantFUEGO]

ok i'm going to admit, i read up to page 4, then skipped to page 8. I'm gonna give my 2 cents, as strange as it may sound. Read if you please.

I think it really takes a nice 8th of hydroponic shrooms in order for you to trip BALLS, hard enough to where you're face in the mud, totally helpless, for you to com to the realization that human beings are creatures. Everything you all know about society, social structure and norms are only a result of the area you live in and the influence of people around you.
Theres a popular phrase in sociology: "norms are socially constructed". With that, comes another obvious fact that deviance is also socially constructed. That is why its ok to mary a 13 year old girl in Japan, but not in the USA.
If you let this idea sink in, you will realize that the whole idea of whats "right" and "wrong", AND the whole idea of society altogether, was created by humanity. Humans were not created on this earth with a predetermined list of rules by which we should live our lives (if you are christian like me, you believe that God gave the ten commandments to Moses. But even still, they were rules determined by man nonetheless, whether you believe it was influenced by God or not.)
Life is simple if you can look past the idea of society. You are born by your mother and father, and throughout your life you meet people that will grow very dear to you. Its human nature to become violent and enraged at another human for trying to harm someone you care about.
Slipknotpsyco, as much as i must appreciate the 'insight', you truely insulted me with your posts. I am insulted because you think that I am naive enough to believe that if you saw a 40 year old "child molester" even TALKING to your 7 year old daughter, you would keep to yourself and and try to call the police so they can come catch him while you use your daughter as bait (or anyone elses daughter for that matter). You have wasted my valuable reading time by trying to make yourself seem so much more "honorable" and "clear headed" than the majority of us posting here. You know damn well you would have grabbed the nearest thing to you and ran at him swinging. And if i was your friend, and i found out that you saw him talking to your daughter and you didn't do anything, i would probably give you an ass whoppin too.
Someone that just attempted to sexually assault my little sister doesn't deserve a "fair fight", he doesn't deserve to "be warned", he doesn't deserve a "chance to defend himself". He did something in an area of the world that considers what he did VERY WRONG, and because he chose to do this, he pissed off the older brother (and friends thereof) of a helpless little girl who is NOT consenting to this type of behavior.
I totallt disagree with inflicting pain on someone for nothing. This was NOT 5 "punk ass" teenagers maliciously ganging up on a "poor old man". This was 5 angry "family members" who delivered a very powerful message: "stay the fuck away from my sister."
Peace

[easton]

awesome man, thats the way to do it! fuck ya!

you prolly shoulda killed the piece of shit, the world would be a better place.

[slipknotpsycho]

awesome man, thats the way to do it! fuck ya!

you prolly shoulda killed the piece of shit, the world would be a better place.
as it would without all you hypocritcal assholes.... i gauran-fucking-tee the first person that walks up to you and kicks the living shit out of you for eating meat, which is a dirrect result of the slaughtering of animals, or kicks the shit out of you for driving a car, which destroys our planet, or fuck, even stepping on a blade of grass and killing it, you wouldn't be too fucking happy about it now would you? re-fucking-gaurdless of what he did, he's still a god fucking damned human being, and deserves the same fucking goddamn rights as every one of you hypocritical fucks.... how about we trade off all the violent (and i mean violent in any way, other than which is self defense, and self-fucking-defense only) with all their non violent people, how about all of you just go to your own fucking little peice of land and continue to beat the shit out of each other for whatever-fucking-reason and the rest of us civilized people will stay the fuck here and live our life happyily, realizing there are OTHER FUCKING WAYS TO DEAL WITH PROBLEMS THEN BEATING THE SHIT OUT OF IT, your poor, are you going to beat the shit out of that problem too? neandrethals...

mods please for the love of (the non-existant) god, close this thread, nothing good will come from it, and you can't deny that, don't delete it, there are alot of valuable opinions scattered through-out it, just close it so it may not continue on, anything that needs to be said, has been.

[schwagster]

FUCKING RIGHT MAN, I'd do the exact fucking same thing. My brothers are crazy motherfuckers, and it runs in the family. I would have done the exact fucking thing, kicked that fucking perverts ass when he deserves it the most!

[beachguy in thongs]

Wow, this is from January.

The first post and the last post.

Such a shame. Man, the guy has problems. Help him. Don't beat the FUCK out of him!!!

Assholes.

[beachguy in thongs]

What if this guy saw you smoking a joint (which is illegal, also) and got ten of his 45 year-old friends to beat your asses?

[Jay Matix]

I would say what you did is wrong. I would of reported his ass instead.

But, if this dude came close to trying to get at my little sister or one of my friends lil sisters. He's dead. and we would of did the same thing on pure instinct. And i know every human in there right mind would of done the same.

[Peach.Optimo.Bluntz]

i would have given u dabs if you beat hes ass by your self.

[baisez le monde.]

should of made sure the motherfucker was dead

[dooman]

i woulda shit kicked the guy too.

i dont agree with violence, but there comes a time when its needed.

when governments take control fo their people and become facist and civil unrest is needed - or when child molestors fuck with your family, and the cops dont got evidence to do shit about it.

dont kill him though, that would be shitty, just hurt him bad and let him know why. this is for messing with my sister you sick-fuck. otherwise he might not even learn a lesson and think he just got jumped.

[slipknotpsycho]

I would say what you did is wrong. I would of reported his ass instead.

But, if this dude came close to trying to get at my little sister or one of my friends lil sisters. He's dead. and we would of did the same thing on pure instinct. And i know every human in there right mind would of done the same.
go back through and read some of the posts, they say first that he made a pass at getting the girl or something close to that, then says the cops told them there wasn't enough evidence... find me one cop that's going to let a convicted sex offender, make a pass at a child, and just say there's not enough evidence... even 1 or 2 witnesses along with the fact that he's done it before, and was convicted of it, is enough to throw out any reasonable doubt in any court or courtsystem.

all this leads me to believe (and probably most every other logical thinker) that there was no pass at any child, they singled someone out they knew was a sex offender, just to beat the shit out of him so they can be 'proud' and boast what they did because 'the guy deserves nothing except all the worst things you could do to inflict pain imaginable because he's lower then dirt and blah blah blah blah' people fuck up, people have problems, people DO change...

[Crosis]

Hey man, everybody gets their ass beat once in a while. That dude shouldn't have been fucking little kids, nor should he have been trying to pick up some 7 year old girl. I'm not saying cut his dick off or anything, but maybe he'll learn a damn lesson if he gets his ass beat every time he tries to fuck little kids.

[KEGS]

"Beleave nothing you hear and half of what you see"
If something like that happen too any one that i knew they would
be delt with swiftly.but I would not go online braging about it.
an do you think a beating is going to stop a sick fuck like that