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sdffa11
01-23-2006, 05:34 AM
kobe bryant has scored 81 points in only 42 minutes in a basketball game. that's just ridiculous. to those basketball illiterates, it was over 40 years the last time someone has scored this many points in a professional basketball game.

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LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Kobe Bryant scored a staggering 81 points -- the second-highest total in NBA history -- and the Los Angeles Lakers beat the Toronto Raptors 122-104 Sunday night.

With the fans at Staples Center chanting "MVP! MVP!" Bryant made two free throws with 43.4 seconds remaining for his final points, putting him behind only Wilt Chamberlain on the all-time scoring list.

Chamberlain scored 100 points for Philadelphia against the New York Knicks at Hershey, Pa., on March 2, 1962. His second-highest total was 78 against the Lakers in three overtimes on Dec. 8, 1961.

"I couldn't even dream of this when I was a kid," Bryant said. "There was no way possible."

Bryant left to a standing ovation with 4.2 seconds remaining, having shot 28-of-46 from the floor and 18-of-20 from the foul line.

Elgin Baylor held the previous franchise record of 71 points at New York on Nov. 15, 1960.

Michael Jordan's career high was 69 points, and only three players had ever scored more than 70 -- Chamberlain, Baylor, and David Robinson.

The 27-year-old Bryant made it four.

He played nearly 42 minutes, going the entire second half until being lifted by coach Phil Jackson. He scored 27 points in the third quarter and 28 more in the fourth.

Bryant scored 62 points during a 112-90 victory over Dallas last month, but sat out the fourth quarter because of the one-sided nature of the game.


i hate kobe bryant but i have to give it up for him...

Jeff Spicoli
01-23-2006, 05:48 AM
imagine if the league was full of Kobe's, selfish bitch who shoot 30 shots a game, goodjob to him, but he is still a ballhog

king kong bong
01-23-2006, 05:49 AM
so that means he didnt pass the ball.

GanjaBob
01-23-2006, 05:56 AM
maybe he will go home and rape a nice bitch to celabrate tonight!

Its a Plant
01-23-2006, 06:25 AM
imagine if the league was full of Kobe's, selfish bitch who shoot 30 shots a game, goodjob to him, but he is still a ballhog

haha okayy? A.I. is just like that..and god, why not, he's on fire. It would be downright bad coaching on the zen master's part to not get him the ball as much as possible.

Im sure its affecting his teammates though, but they had to expect that already from him. Plus, a win is a win, and that keeps everyone happy.

Anyone that says hes a selfish ballhog clearly doesnt understand the game or just is indenial to the fact that hes one of the greatest of all time..if not the greatest already.

Shit Spicoli, I figured you were a fan since you were in Cali, but guess not...owell :(

Jeff Spicoli
01-23-2006, 07:18 AM
a.i. is like that to, and anyoen can be on fire some times if they shoot 30 times a game
I use to like basketball, but never the Lakers, hehehe

Its a Plant
01-23-2006, 07:20 AM
nah come on now. taking 30 shots is easy..its the making over half of em that makes him the best..

I will admit, I was a bigger fan of him when he was younger and not so arrogant. He still lights it up, just not that raw energy I saw in like 2000-2002. He's still my man though.

Jeff Spicoli
01-23-2006, 07:23 AM
that makes him the best..

ehh, KG plz. 20/11/5

Its a Plant
01-23-2006, 07:27 AM
oh I'll give you that he's a great player bound for the hall, but I dunno w/o any hardware...That shows a lot...He needs to get outta Minnesota and come on out to L.A. There are a few rumors that it might happen, but I doubt it. Plus, that means most likely that Lamar would be out in the cold. :(

Jeff Spicoli
01-23-2006, 07:29 AM
who the hell on then Lakers (besides Kobe, i'll give you that) would be trade worthy of KG!?

Its a Plant
01-23-2006, 07:31 AM
well Lamar clearly, and possibly that worthless teenager Bynum. That, and money, which they have enough..maybe...

Jeff Spicoli
01-23-2006, 07:33 AM
never gonna happen.... but if it does, ill commit suicide, deal?

Its a Plant
01-23-2006, 07:36 AM
haha okay. I dont think it'll happen, but I would think that KG would want to leave. I mean, come on, Wallllyy. The Wolves arent really going anywhere soon, and KG neeeds a ring soon. I would like to see him in new threads, though, wherever that may be. Kobe just needs one more stud so he doesnt have to wear himself ragged every game...unless he wants to.

Jeff Spicoli
01-23-2006, 07:38 AM
The Wolves arent really going anywhere soon, and KG neeeds a ring soon.
yeah, for sure.


I would like to see him in new threads, though, wherever that may be. Kobe just needs one more stud so he doesnt have to wear himself ragged every game...unless he wants to.
remember that big negro Shaq? I think Kobe made it clear that he wan'ts to be the only star in L.A.

king kong bong
01-23-2006, 10:21 AM
basketball changed so much. back in the day they used to play harder. they had to earn all those big checks and endorsement deals. nowadays they hand em out like nothin. the players are soft bitches now.

Garden Knowm
01-23-2006, 10:47 AM
WOW!!!!!!

sdffa11
01-23-2006, 04:06 PM
haha okayy? A.I. is just like that..and god, why not, he's on fire. It would be downright bad coaching on the zen master's part to not get him the ball as much as possible.

Im sure its affecting his teammates though, but they had to expect that already from him. Plus, a win is a win, and that keeps everyone happy.

Anyone that says hes a selfish ballhog clearly doesnt understand the game or just is indenial to the fact that hes one of the greatest of all time..if not the greatest already.

Shit Spicoli, I figured you were a fan since you were in Cali, but guess not...owell :(

please do not call kobe bryant the greatest player of all time. thats such a stupid comment. i can name 5 players in 10 seconds that are better than him. i really dont think hes even TOP 10 all time. its an insult to michael jordan, wilt chamberlain, bill russell and all the other great players if kobe is on that list. kobes good, but hes nowhere near that level yet.

Reefer Rogue
01-23-2006, 04:09 PM
He's no Wilt Chamberlain.

Its a Plant
01-23-2006, 05:49 PM
haha well he is and will be top 10 of all time. You're basing these "facts" on what he does off the court. If we were to do that, Wilt would certainly lose out since he had so many bitches on the side. Looking at facts alone, kobe has more rings than jordan did in that age in his career, and kobe outscored jordan's measly 69 point effort last night. What else is there left to say? M-V-P and history.

beachguy in thongs
01-23-2006, 05:55 PM
I bet if any of you had played that game, you would've had 40, of those 46, shots blocked.

BiG WiCkEd
01-23-2006, 07:17 PM
haha well he is and will be top 10 of all time. You're basing these "facts" on what he does off the court. If we were to do that, Wilt would certainly lose out since he had so many bitches on the side. Looking at facts alone, kobe has more rings than jordan did in that age in his career, and kobe outscored jordan's measly 69 point effort last night. What else is there left to say? M-V-P and history.

So you're sayin Kobe is the greastest player of all time???
hahahahaha, Damn I could laugh alll fuckin day.
Kobe has 3 Championship rings...with the very useful help of this little man called Shaquille Oneal, who happens to be, if not the greatest, one of the greatest centers to play an NBA basketball game, period.
Yeah I give him credit for the 81 points, but if we were to look at the "FACTS" as you said, Kobe wouldn't be in the top 5 of all time.
Now, let's swing on over to individual stats...u want facts huh? Ok.
Career point averages? Kobe has 23.1
Somebody say A.I? Yeh, career average of 27.8. But no right? That'z juz a small difference?
Kobe hasn't proved to be the greatest player to step on the court. Iverson happens to have 4 scorin titles, while Bryant is still dreaming of gettin that first one. So where you wanna take ur "opinions" on Kobe being the greatest? Tha fuck outta here man. Ur a joke for that statement u made.

Its a Plant
01-23-2006, 07:35 PM
not once did I say the greatest of all time, but all this bullshit about what he does off the court...who cares. It's his personal life.

And as far as scoring titles go, the dont mean shit compared to the rings. And Shaq is great, but not even close to be cosidered the best.. Can be lazy at times, and come on, coming into camp outta shape and flabby...some professional. All I'm saying is he's got at least another 3 titles in him, maybe more.

BiG WiCkEd
01-23-2006, 07:45 PM
I know for a fact I never said anything about his life outside the court. What he does in his personal life should not be included for what he does on the court.

Well you were talking about how good he was as an player, right? In order to do that though, genius, we have to look at what he'z done for himself. So, again, the numbers he puts up does not put him in the top 5, much less number one.

BiG WiCkEd
01-23-2006, 07:46 PM
Oh, I forgot, and those 3 so called "upcoming" titles u said....not gonna happen without the help of someone reallllllly good.

Awill3449
01-23-2006, 08:14 PM
This cant even be compared to Jordan's 60 point games, David Robinson's 72, and Chamberlian's 100. The defense in the NBA is terrible now. Another game last night had almost 300 points scored. Thats terrible! What happened to the NBA? I don't follow anymore, but in the 90's games were usually 92-87 or 88-76 or other reasonable scores.

beachguy in thongs
01-23-2006, 08:32 PM
Kobe had Shaq scoring, Jordan had Scottie Pippen and Horace Grant.

Was Jordan as young as Kobe when he first won the slam dunk contest?
Kobe won it when he was 19, or maybe 18.

BiG WiCkEd
01-23-2006, 08:49 PM
Damn u muthafuckaz got some weak ass points.

So ur sayin Jordan aint got shit on Kobe dunkin?
hahahaha

What was Jordan's rookie scoring average?

and Kobes?? 34.2?? Hahahah. His weak ass had 7.6 while Jordan blew folks away with 27.8.

Pppl need to stop comparing Kobe with Jordan man.

If u like Kobe, it'z fine. U think Kobe is the best? Cool. Just don't compare them without recognizing numbers and realizing who's accomplished more in their career.

beachguy in thongs
01-23-2006, 08:59 PM
35.9

Kobe Bryant
Games Played: 39
Total Points: 1,402
Games Remaining: 41
Last Game: 01.22 vs. TOR
W 122-104 - 81 points, 28-46 FG
Next Game: 01.27 vs. GSW
Last Game vs. Warriors: 38 pts
60-plus point games: 2
50-59 point games: 2
40-49 point games: 9
30-39 point games: 14


33.4

Allen Iverson
Games Played: 40
Total Points: 1,334
Games Remaining: 42
Last Game: 01.22 @ MIN
W 86-84 - 39 points, 13-27 FG
Next Game: 01.24 vs. SAC
Last Game vs. Kings: 19 pts
60-plus point games: 0
50-59 point games: 1
40-49 point games: 8
30-39 point games: 19


31.0

LeBron James
Games Played: 38
Total Points: 1,177
Games Remaining: 44
Last Game: 01.21 @ UTA
W 108-90 - 51 points, 19-35 FG
Next Game: 01.24 vs. IND
Last Game vs. Pacers: 14 pts
60-plus point games: 0
50-59 point games: 2
40-49 point games: 2
30-39 point games: 20

I'm not making any points. I was just saying that O'Neal had rediculous scoring numbers on the same team.

Its a Plant
01-23-2006, 10:02 PM
I probably shouldn't have compared him to Jordan, that was my fault.

I just like Kobe's electricity that he brings. The things he does cannot be matched. Some of those dunks are amazing, like a couple of those all-star game dunks he had. Unreal.

thcbongman
01-24-2006, 12:23 AM
It's unbelieveable the level he is playing at now.

I thought he would never reach that point, but he proved me wrong.

thcbongman
01-24-2006, 12:24 AM
imagine if the league was full of Kobe's, selfish bitch who shoot 30 shots a game, goodjob to him, but he is still a ballhog

Who the fuck is he going to pass the ball too?

Lamar? hahaha. Kwame soft servy Brown? hahaha. Smush? hahaha.

Yea, Kobe has ball-hogging rights.

thcbongman
01-24-2006, 12:39 AM
Damn u muthafuckaz got some weak ass points.

So ur sayin Jordan aint got shit on Kobe dunkin?
hahahaha

What was Jordan's rookie scoring average?

and Kobes?? 34.2?? Hahahah. His weak ass had 7.6 while Jordan blew folks away with 27.8.

Pppl need to stop comparing Kobe with Jordan man.

If u like Kobe, it'z fine. U think Kobe is the best? Cool. Just don't compare them without recognizing numbers and realizing who's accomplished more in their career.

Jordan also played 3 years of college, while Kobe went directly from high school. Btw, Jordan averaged 28.2 his rookie season. Also the competition in the 80s was much weaker than it was today and were notrious for playing vitually no defense. After all Jordan's Bulls the 2nd season made the playoffs with only 36 wins. The competition today is much tougher, defense has become more sophisicated, and players are better conditioned.

I'm not saying Kobe is better, because he has a few more years to catch up to Jordan's level. What is similar they both have an uncanny will to win, and I wouldn't be surprised that Kobe will one day be a legend.

beachguy in thongs
01-24-2006, 12:45 AM
I probably shouldn't have compared him to Jordan, that was my fault.

I just like Kobe's electricity that he brings. The things he does cannot be matched. Some of those dunks are amazing, like a couple of those all-star game dunks he had. Unreal.
I'm not too big on the NBA, anymore, I just like SU Basketball. I used to like the Lakers when they had Magic, Kareem, Worthy, Michael Thompson, you know.

After his career, he'll be comparable to Jordan, I think. Especially, if he scores 100 points, one night.

Its a Plant
01-24-2006, 12:50 AM
Jordan also played 3 years of college, while Kobe went directly from high school. Btw, Jordan averaged 28.2 his rookie season. Also the competition in the 80s was much weaker than it was today and were notrious for playing vitually no defense. After all Jordan's Bulls the 2nd season made the playoffs with only 36 wins. The competition today is much tougher, defense has become more sophisicated, and players are better conditioned.

I'm not saying Kobe is better, because he has a few more years to catch up to Jordan's level. What is similar they both have an uncanny will to win, and I wouldn't be surprised that Kobe will one day be a legend.

I agree with you completely. The men in today's nba are in much better condition. We got some beasts playing out there. And Kobe and Jordan are VERY alike in the fact that they can perform on the highest stage under intense pressure.

One memory that I have of Kobe is the '01 Finals against the Pacers. Big boy shaq had fouled out in OT, so Kobe took over, scoring 10 unanswered points to win a tough road game. It was around that time that I knew he could easily excell w/o Shaq there. Sure Shaq is dominant as hell, but someone had to throw up those amazing alley-oops.

sdffa11
01-25-2006, 02:47 AM
haha well he is and will be top 10 of all time. You're basing these "facts" on what he does off the court. If we were to do that, Wilt would certainly lose out since he had so many bitches on the side. Looking at facts alone, kobe has more rings than jordan did in that age in his career, and kobe outscored jordan's measly 69 point effort last night. What else is there left to say? M-V-P and history.

kobe never even got to the playoffs without shaq and i dont think it will happen this year either. yea he had more rings but imagine if jordan had a "shaqlike" teammate with him during his early teens. they would have won multiple championships also.

scoring is overrated. yea 81 is impressive BUT there have been a lot of rule changes since jordan left, such as the hand check rule. jordan could score at will when he played but if the rule change was implemented in his time, it would have been game over, he WOULD AND COULD have scored as many as he wants but winning the game was more important to him.


not once did I say the greatest of all time, but all this bullshit about what he does off the court...who cares. It's his personal life.

And as far as scoring titles go, the dont mean shit compared to the rings. And Shaq is great, but not even close to be cosidered the best.. Can be lazy at times, and come on, coming into camp outta shape and flabby...some professional. All I'm saying is he's got at least another 3 titles in him, maybe more.

i never said he shouldnt be considered one of the best of all time because of his personal life. screw his personal life. hes still not going to be considered top 5 nba players of all time just because he hasnt proved anything yet besides that he can win with shaq. shaq might be lazy and flabby but hes still the dominant in todays game because most teams double and triple him as soon as he catches the ball. i guarantee that kobe bryant will not win another championship with him being the dominant player on his team or else i will NEVER smoke weed again. as talented as he is, im that confident he wont.

also, one big difference between them is that jordan's defense was a lot better than kobes. im not saying kobe isnt a good defender because he is one of the top 15 defenders in the league but jordan was that much better than everyone else in the league at his time at defense. yea, scottie might have guarded the opposing team's best scorer but michael could do it too. its just that it would be that much harder for him to focus on scoring if he did.

BiG WiCkEd
01-25-2006, 02:59 AM
Jordan also played 3 years of college, while Kobe went directly from high school. Btw, Jordan averaged 28.2 his rookie season. Also the competition in the 80s was much weaker than it was today and were notrious for playing vitually no defense. After all Jordan's Bulls the 2nd season made the playoffs with only 36 wins. The competition today is much tougher, defense has become more sophisicated, and players are better conditioned.

I'm not saying Kobe is better, because he has a few more years to catch up to Jordan's level. What is similar they both have an uncanny will to win, and I wouldn't be surprised that Kobe will one day be a legend.


People fail to realize that Kobe got those 3 championships with the help of Shaq. Now, some people say that that fact doesn't really matter, but who was the MVP of EACH of those finals?
And more importantly, has/can/will Kobe do it without Shaq?
I think those rings and Shaq are overlooked tremendously. They seem to put Kobe as a fuckin god. Dont get me wrong, I blaze and watch Kobe juz like the rest of u muthafuckaz, but don't compare him to Jordan.

Jeff Spicoli
01-25-2006, 03:53 AM
and don't mention him in the top 10 of all time, he's a fucking ballhog(sorry, it's true no matter what) and can't lead a team for shit. Those 3 championships were thanks to Shaq, plain and simple

sdffa11
01-25-2006, 04:29 AM
and don't mention him in the top 10 of all time, he's a fucking ballhog(sorry, it's true no matter what) and can't lead a team for shit. Those 3 championships were thanks to Shaq, plain and simple

now i have probably hated kobe more than anyone on the planet BUT shaq hasnt won a championship without kobe either. yes, shaq did most of the work BUT kobe did have some big games during those 3 championship year.

also, KOBE IS A BALLHOG but so were all the other great players in history. jordan, chamberlain, jabbar, they all demanded the ball because they knew they had a better chance of making a basket than their teammates. while it can be viewed as being a ballhog, some others view it as taking control of a game and showing leadership. im not saying kobe is good as the 3 players i just mentioned but he is the best player on the team and if i were the coach, i would rather have him take a lot of the shots, rather than have him defer to retards like chris mihm, brian cook, kwame brown or devean george.

thcbongman
01-25-2006, 05:57 AM
People fail to realize that Kobe got those 3 championships with the help of Shaq. Now, some people say that that fact doesn't really matter, but who was the MVP of EACH of those finals?
And more importantly, has/can/will Kobe do it without Shaq?
I think those rings and Shaq are overlooked tremendously. They seem to put Kobe as a fuckin god. Dont get me wrong, I blaze and watch Kobe juz like the rest of u muthafuckaz, but don't compare him to Jordan.

Shaq didn't win a ring without Kobe either. Only went to the finals in 95 with Penny Hardaway as his sidekick. That argument is fundamentally flawed since Shaq didn't win a championship without him. There is no doubt in my mind who was the leader then, but one person can't win a championship alone, it takes chemistry of many players with a certain set of skills to build around a player of Shaq, Jordan, Magic etc. caliber.

It will take some time for them to rebuild a decent team around Kobe, but the rest of the Lakers starting 4 suck shit, Lamar is decent, but he does not fit in the triangle. Kwame fucking Brown for christ sakes. No team can win with him, if only Kobe could only kick his ass, and make him actually play hard, they actually might have a shot at the playoffs.

BiG WiCkEd
01-25-2006, 06:51 PM
Shaq didn't win a ring without Kobe either. Only went to the finals in 95 with Penny Hardaway as his sidekick. That argument is fundamentally flawed since Shaq didn't win a championship without him. There is no doubt in my mind who was the leader then, but one person can't win a championship alone, it takes chemistry of many players with a certain set of skills to build around a player of Shaq, Jordan, Magic etc. caliber.

It will take some time for them to rebuild a decent team around Kobe, but the rest of the Lakers starting 4 suck shit, Lamar is decent, but he does not fit in the triangle. Kwame fucking Brown for christ sakes. No team can win with him, if only Kobe could only kick his ass, and make him actually play hard, they actually might have a shot at the playoffs.

I know damn well one can't win a ring, therez a reason it'z a team sport. Same thing for Iverson, who in MY OPINION is the best player out there. For him to be 5'11 and take his team (horrible fuckin team) to the playoffs in 01 against the L.A and come that fuckin close....wow. I'ma go as far as to say he'z the best non-center nba player to step on the court after Jordan. But again, it'z juz an OPINION.

Its a Plant
01-25-2006, 07:10 PM
I'm just going to say right now that the Lakers have more than a decent opportunity to make the playoffs right now. They are the 7th seed as of now, and yes I know this can change, I'm just saying that so far, Kobe IS leading his team ALONE to the playoffs. We'll have to wait till that time comes, but just watch out when the Lakers snag the 7th or 8th spot and go on an insane run.