Some questions...

[sweetcan]

I have a pre-employment drug test at a Quest Lab in central NY, coming up this week. I have read and re-read the information that is out there.I have been clean for 2 weeks and smoked fairly heavily before that (almost daily, few puffs some days, many puffs on the weekends)...My plan is to attempt to substitute but will be well diluted in case that is not something that can be done...I have purchased Quick Fix for this.

I also purchased a 5-day total body cleanse call Test'in, and now realize that it is prolly bunk...but I'm doing it anyway...can't hurt, right? It's god awful...pills are easy to use, but the solution is like drinking Dead Sea water. Anyone ever use this?

My questions:

What is the liklihood I will be observed during the test, making substitution a risky endeavor? Has anyone every been observed for pre-employment testing?

I have a 4 year old and am thinking rather than use the Quick fix solution, why not just keep the QF for possible random testing and replace it with his urine. Does the urine of someone that young still contain the right balance of creatinine...him being smaller and less muscular?

As many of you have probably felt, I'm very NERVOUS about substituting...but realize its the best way.

Thanks for your help!

[Clawed Cooper]

Use the quick fix 4.0
A pre employment test is cut and dry.
You have the right to privacy.
Make sure the temp is right and your good to go.

Quote:Yes, there is a way to tell if its synthetic but labs are bound down by regulations and protocols which dictate what they can test for and what not. Labs (US) are only allowed to test for drug metabolites and check the Ph, specific gravity, creatnine and excessive nitrites. As long as the batch of QF is fresh and not exposed to direct sunlight, it will pass these integrity checks. If the batch is old or had been exposed to direct sunlight, the components break down, sending up a red flag with the lab tech. UnQuote:

What's the difference between a drug screen and a drug test?

Both sound similar, but the difference between a drug screen and drug test is huge. Do you remember the difference between water-resistant and waterproof? It is also huge. Figuring them out is not common sense. Water-proof means a watch can be submerged in water, and water-resistant means it can be "splashed". Get them confused and the consequence can be costly. Get the difference between drug screen and drug test confused, and the consequence can be devastating.

A good way to differentiate between the two is; speedy screen and testing takes time; a screen is cheap and fast (speedy screen), a test is slow and expensive (testing takes time). A drug screen is just that a "Screen". Drug screening is a cost-effective method to quickly review all samples. Spectrum Labs actually sells drug screens with our one and five panel home test kits. Believe it or not those are drug screens. Drug screens are highly reactive, but not highly selective. This can result in false positives for substances like ibuprofen, poppy seeds, and over the counter sinus medications. The screen cannot tell the difference between ibuprofen and the drug metabolite. For example, over 60% of screens that test positive for amphetamines later prove to be negative on a drug test. This means 6 out of 10 people screening positive for amphetamines are truly negative.

With statistics this bad, why do labs even use drug screens? The answer is simple: Money! It would be way too expensive for labs to run a drug test on each sample. This cost would then be passed onto the customer who would then decide drug testing is too expensive and drop the program.

To further complicate things there are several types of screens. The first is the on-site screen, which is manually performed. These are popular with parole departments and pre-employment situations for lower paying hourly jobs. This occurs because the company or agency simply wants to save time and money and does not really care about results. The screen is given and if the person passes every thing is okay. If the person fails, it is no job, fired, or back to jail. Not a very fair system considering if they tested positive for amphetamines, there is a 60% chance the sample would test negative on a drug test.

The second type of screen is used in conjunction with a drug test. This is the method used by most major corporations and the Department of Transportation (also known as D.O.T.). For this, all samples are run on an automated screen. If the sample passes the screen, the testing process is done and the individual is given a passing status. If the sample fails the screen, it moves on to the drug test or confirmation test. For a test to be labeled "Drug Test" a gas chromatography/mass spectroscopy (GC/MS) has to be performed on all positive screens. GC/MS is an extremely precise piece of equipment, which measures the molecular size, charge, and weight of the atoms in the drug metabolites. Due to the precision of the machine it can tell the difference between poppy seeds and opiates, ibuprofen and THC metabolites, nasal sprays and amphetamines.
Subject: Drug Tests
I am not quite sure of the difference between what you are calling a Drug Screen and a Drug Test. However I believe that you are referring to Screening Only vs a Screening coupled with a Confirmation Test. It is true that if only a Screening test is performed, then the possibilty of false postive results is always a factor due the nature of the test. We perform an Initial Screening Test at which point all "NEGATIVE" specimens are reported. If a specimen is "POSITIVE" for the Initial Screening Test, then a second, more specific, Confirmation Test is performed. This second test will rule out any potential false positive results from the Screening Test. You want to make sure that whoever is doing the testing for your employees performs a screening test followed by a second confirmation test for any "screening positive " results. I hope this answers your question. If you need more clarification, please feel free to cantact me at the lab.
SAP 5-50 W/NIT
SAP = Substance Abuse Panel
5 = Five types of drugs being tested
50 = 50 ng/ml cutoff limit for THC
W/NIT = with Nitrites check. The labs will be checking for excessive amounts of this component to determine adulteration

[BloodyRedBarron]

Is this Quick Fix realy as goo as there saying?

[BloodyRedBarron]

Is this Quick Fix realy as goo as there saying?
As you can see I really need to know.

Is this Quick Fix 4.0 as good as they say?

And what is the shelf life of it?:confused:

[sweetcan]

from what i've heard it is manufactured to calibrate drug test equipment, though i don't know if that's true.

so, yes it is good so long as you give it to the lab tech at the right temp and don't sign forms that allow genetic testing...it doesn't contain IgG, which is unique to human urine (afaik), but will not be tested for unless you consent.

i beleive the shelf life is around 2 years, unless exposed to sunlight. it can be heated daily without degradation.