Cool Link. The effects and dangers of smoking marijuana.

[beachguy in thongs]

Check it out. :smokin:

http://marijuana.info/effects_of_marijuana.htm

[Myth1184]

Claiming Gov Studies as false is just Smokers denial. Crack heads would say the same thing about Crack.

[esrabalamir]

is this your site beachguy?
looks nice work
peace

[beachguy in thongs]

is this your site beachguy?
looks nice work
peace
No. It gets pretty twistedly funny.

[psychopixi]

That site's odd, the writer just keeps going off on a tangent about weird shit.

[daima]

Many government studies suggest that cannabis effects blacks differently than whites. They were all false and based on lies, greed and racism.
As for the crack smokers? Comparing crack, heroin, or meth, to cannabis is one of the oldest drugwar tactics used by those in power to retain power. Get your head out of the "crack" of your ass. It's beginning to get hard to tell you apart.
dai*ma :o

[beachguy in thongs]

This is an older study (2000), but you're saying these are lies?

-African American students continue to have the lowest rates of smoking. Past month smoking among 8th, 10th, and 12th grade whites and Hispanics is around double or more the rate among their African American peers. For example, in 1999, 14.9 percent of African American seniors report current smoking compared to 40.1 percent of white and 27.3 percent of Hispanic seniors.

-In this study sociometric surveys were completed at third grade for a predominantly low-socioeconomic status, urban sample of African American boys and girls, and youth reports of delinquency were gathered at grades 6, 8, and 10. Results showed that patterns of association between childhood peer rejection and aggression and delinquency severity varied by gender. For boys, the additive effect of childhood peer rejection and aggression was a strong predictor of more serious delinquency, whereas for girls only aggression predicted more serious delinquency.

-For marijuana, African Americans and Native Americans were more likely to initiate use and Asian Americans were less likely to initiate use than Caucasians. Males were more likely to initiate use, as were those who had previously initiated alcohol use.

-Teenage polydrug use was a significant predictor of adult polydrug use for Caucasians, African-Americans, and Latinos. Although this relationship was not evident for Asians, teenage alcohol use increased adult cigarette use, and early religiosity increased adult alcohol use.

http://www.nida.nih.gov/DirReports/DirRep500/DirectorReport5.html

[bonsaiguy]

Claiming Gov Studies as false is just Smokers denial. Crack heads would say the same thing about Crack.
I would beg to differ on that one, especially when it comes to marijuana. Most of the government "studies" are designed to reach a pre-determined conclusion as opposed to reaching a conclusion based on research and fact and good scientific principals. And many of these so called studies are in fact, nothing but bits and pieces of data collected from other "studies" crammed together in such a way that it supports the governments pre-determined conclusion. And the US government has, for many years, made a concerted effort to maintain control of any and all research regarding MJ and prohibited the vast majority of real scientists from doing any real cognitive research on the subject. Why they have taken this stance is a puzzle at best. (maybe Beachguy can shed some light on that one) Our government, sadly, has not been trustworthy for a long long time.

[beachguy in thongs]

" Beachguy???"
I wouldn't know because as soon as I starting studying "this marijuana stuff", in '99, all the information was becoming available, and the two first books I took out of the library were a strictly Cannabis book and a "legal" drug book, actually called, "The Legal Drug Guide". So, as soon as I started, besides outlining the Cannabis book (published 1999), I studied Melatonin in the Legal Drug Guide (published 1999).

Before that, I guess Reagan was the last president to suppress Marijuana studies, but I'm not sure if they were all lost, because, recently, a lot of studies have been emerging for the 60's and 70's.

As for their reasoning, I was 13 and disappointed that the Yankees had to suffer through the 80's.

[mrdevious]

In philosophy we've been studying the varrying types of logical falacies. one, called "modus tollens", seems to be the fallable method used for 99% of the anti-drug "studies" I've seen.

To explain modus tollens:

If A, then B.
therfor, if B, then A.

expanded to a situation

if it's raining (A), then I get wet (B).
therfor, if I'm wet (B), then it must be raining (A).
obviously there are numerous other causes that cause you to get wet, so your being wet does not by default mean it's raining.

and to cite an example of a drug study:

If a person is depressed (A), they smoke weed (B).
therfor, if a person smokes weed (B), then weed is why they're depressed (B).

doesn't work, yet most people buy that unforunately.

[beachguy in thongs]

Nice correlation, Mr. D.

[bonsaiguy]

It's the same kind of shitty excuse for science that has been used to villify second hand smoke and ban smoking in bars, restaurants and in the case of California, even outdoor smoking.
All correlation and no actual causation.

[Oneironaut]

to cite an example of a drug study:

If a person is depressed (A), they smoke weed (B).
therfor, if a person smokes weed (B), then weed is why they're depressed (B).

doesn't work, yet most people buy that unforunately.
It's not even that straightforward. It would be very difficult to show that if a person is depressed (A), they smoke weed (B). The most you're really likely to be able to show is that there seems to be some correlation between depression and smoking weed, which could mean a number of different things. It could mean that A causes B, that B causes A, that some other factor C causes both A and B, that C causes A and C and A both cause B, and so forth.

[halo]

In philosophy we've been studying the varrying types of logical falacies. one, called "modus tollens", seems to be the fallable method used for 99% of the anti-drug "studies" I've seen.

To explain modus tollens:

If A, then B.
therfor, if B, then A.

expanded to a situation

if it's raining (A), then I get wet (B).
therfor, if I'm wet (B), then it must be raining (A).
obviously there are numerous other causes that cause you to get wet, so your being wet does not by default mean it's raining.

and to cite an example of a drug study:

If a person is depressed (A), they smoke weed (B).
therfor, if a person smokes weed (B), then weed is why they're depressed (B).

doesn't work, yet most people buy that unforunately.

Sort of the same thing for the gateway theory

If all heroin users started out smoking marijuana, then marijuana smokers will use heroin

If most cokeheads were potheads, then most potheads will be cokeheads

we all know thats falso!

[beachguy in thongs]

How about this one?

If people knew the truth about Pot, it would be legal.
If people was legal, people would know the truth about it.

edit: I meant, if Pot was legal, people would know the truth about it.

[intheclouds]

Many government studies suggest that cannabis effects blacks differently than whites. They were all false and based on lies, greed and racism.
As for the crack smokers? Comparing crack, heroin, or meth, to cannabis is one of the oldest drugwar tactics used by those in power to retain power. Get your head out of the "crack" of your ass. It's beginning to get hard to tell you apart.
dai*ma :o

I agree with you dia*ma! :thumbsup:
All Government studies are done to verify their own ideas of whatever it is. You ever notice that Government studies NEVER contradict what the assholes are saying, They are all rigged to be that way! :mad:

[beachguy in thongs]

I'm reading the studies done by Dr. Xiao Zhang. I, first, look at the references (of a web site, or study) and that's how you tell if it's just gonna be legit, or not.

[eg420ne]

Come-on people! why would our loving government lie to its people, If the government saids its unsafe then bygawd its unsafe. They only want the best for its people. safety first, pleasure never.... :stoned:



War is Peace ------- Freedom is Slavery ------- Ignorance is Strength

[HerbalSolution]

Most studies also used near lethal amounts (like an insane amount) and sealed monkeys in a box, nearly killed them, then said that weed was bad

[Az.]

How about this one?

If people knew the truth about Pot, it would be legal.
If people was legal, people would know the truth about it.

edit: I meant, if Pot was legal, people would know the truth about it.

Very good!!!

[Justin Incredible]

I have never read anything so confusing.

[beachguy in thongs]

That site? Yeah, it's like the guy was going to give a speech at a linguistics convention and then got stoned.

Az., that's as close as I come to plagiarizing.

[Justin Incredible]

Sex with Dolphins is fun.

[beachguy in thongs]

Wow, it seems so easy to totally screw up a thread. Since, this is rated a "one-star" thread, I think you the mods should delete it.

Justin, I heard those penguins are sexy, this time of year.