View Full Version : From where does come your personal views?
Musician
01-17-2006, 08:46 PM
I was wondering that. Because of course if an american is raised in a small redneck city in texas, and another one in a big city in British-Columbia, they will definitly not think the same.
Which made me think, do you guys ever really wondered why you guys think as you think? Of course your parents must be responsable of a big part of what you think. But your environment too.
But it shouldnt. Really. Everybody should unlearn ALL what they have been taught by the society, parents, everything, and re-learn completly. This way everyone would think by theirselves. I see big rednecks or fanatic Christians on these boards, and I just dont understand why they think like that. I mean its not because your parent raised you in christianity that you have to be christian. Its not because 99% of the world population beleive in Christianism that you have.
Everybody, oh yea, everybody, even me, you, anyone toughts, are directly in correlation with how you have been raised, where you have been raised and with who you have been raised. This is a bit scary, isnt it? You arent even sure to completly think by yourslef. This is why i ask to each of you and myself included to deeply think in what you beleive, and each time you debate with someone, always ask you why you think like this.
Try it. Why are you like you are? :thumbsup:
peace
F L E S H
01-18-2006, 06:06 AM
Well, both my parents are catholics, to varying degrees... My father goes to mass weekly, my mother only on Christmas and Easter, and I'm a rabid atheist. Go figure.
ADaisyChain
01-18-2006, 06:34 AM
There are so many reasons I am who I am. I can't give a very simple answer. I can say that my beliefs spawn from what feels most accurate to me as well as my personal experiences. I try to notice the synchronicity of life and I **try** to keep my mouth shut and my mind open. There aren't many things which I have complete disbelief in, and even fewer things in which I have complete belief. I know I'm here. Everything else comes off that knowledge.
I'm interested in hearing some other answers too. This is a good thread, I hope it gets big. ^^
beachguy in thongs
01-19-2006, 01:23 AM
I can't tell you where my personal views come from, it's a secret. As far as my youth, I personally viewed sports as my life. If I thought of all my influences, I'd have to rely on everyone I've had a personal relationship with. In high school, I learned a lot from Roberto, a guy from Ghana who'd get my Herb. Put that with all I learned from life, up until that point, and I had a broader perspective. And then I went to college in Albany, NY, then Plattsburgh, then moved to Virginia, while meeting people along the way.
I mostly learned through my Brother and Sister and their friends, seeing how they're 9 and 7 years older, respectively. My sister lived in NYC, I met people there. I really didn't get to know my brother's friends too well.
I went to religion classes, once a week, and was confirmed catholic.
I can't talk forever, cause I would, as you can see, I'm already talking in circles.
stoner spirit
01-21-2006, 01:58 AM
I was braught up in a Catholic family, but after sixteen years of that church stuff, I discovered Paganism. I didn't convert to Paganism until I was eighteen, but I never let it show through until I was nineteen. I caught a lot of hell because of it, but I still stuck to Paganism anyways. The message I got from nearly everyone in my family was: "You're going to go to hell if you don't start praying to God." Being a young blind man in this environment is hard, but being blind and a Pagan... shit that's even harder. I figured that even though I have to work twice as much as a sighted person, I might as well fight for my right to freedom of religion. I know of some people who have it worse than me, but either way... it's hard for me as well. I don't look at life as a struggle or a big fight, but there are things that are worth fighting for, and battles of a different nature that I have to win. A blind person has to go through his or her own battles in order to gain indipendence from their family and everyone else around them... such as I. I also have to gain my exceptance in school/college, cannabis culture/peers, out in the community, and soon I will have to fight in order to gain my exceptance in the work world. Life has it's obsticles for the blind, but I for one won't let nothing stand in my way. I'm just like everyone else, except my eyes won't work.
I was braught up in a Catholic family, but after sixteen years of that church stuff, I discovered Paganism. I didn't convert to Paganism until I was eighteen, but I never let it show through until I was nineteen. I caught a lot of hell because of it, but I still stuck to Paganism anyways. The message I got from nearly everyone in my family was: "You're going to go to hell if you don't start praying to God." Being a young blind man in this environment is hard, but being blind and a Pagan... shit that's even harder. I figured that even though I have to work twice as much as a sighted person, I might as well fight for my right to freedom of religion. I know of some people who have it worse than me, but either way... it's hard for me as well. I don't look at life as a struggle or a big fight, but there are things that are worth fighting for, and battles of a different nature that I have to win. A blind person has to go through his or her own battles in order to gain indipendence from their family and everyone else around them... such as I. I also have to gain my exceptance in school/college, cannabis culture/peers, out in the community, and soon I will have to fight in order to gain my exceptance in the work world. Life has it's obsticles for the blind, but I for one won't let nothing stand in my way. I'm just like everyone else, except my eyes won't work.
If you are blind then how are you typing??
do you have a thing that you talk into and it changes your voice into letters on the screen?
i do not mean to cause offence
Stoner Shadow Wolf
01-21-2006, 04:13 AM
i picked my butt, and my booger spoke to me, "let there be light!!!" and i went blind, and that's how babies are born.
you just cant argue with that logic.
stoner spirit
01-21-2006, 08:57 AM
If you are blind then how are you typing??
do you have a thing that you talk into and it changes your voice into letters on the screen?
i do not mean to cause offence
I have this screen reading software called, Jaws. It reads everything on the screen, and it also tells me which keys I'm pressing in order for me to do my own tiping, instead of using Dragon Natural or having somebody tipe for me. Dragon Natural is a voice recognission program that can work properly if you have a mike, and also if you spend at least twenty hours learning how to use the program. The voice recognission part of it takes a while for someone to get used to, and the same goes for the program as well. I don't mind explaining how I can utalize a computer in my own way, no offence has been taken. If you're still wondering about stuff feel free to ask questions. Anyways... I'm going to fire up a bowl... laters.
stoner spirit
01-21-2006, 09:00 AM
i picked my butt, and my booger spoke to me, "let there be light!!!" and i went blind, and that's how babies are born.
you just cant argue with that logic.
You are possessed by buttcrack demons!
I was wondering that. Because of course if an american is raised in a small redneck city in texas, and another one in a big city in British-Columbia, they will definitly not think the same.
Which made me think, do you guys ever really wondered why you guys think as you think? Of course your parents must be responsable of a big part of what you think. But your environment too.
But it shouldnt. Really. Everybody should unlearn ALL what they have been taught by the society, parents, everything, and re-learn completly. This way everyone would think by theirselves. I see big rednecks or fanatic Christians on these boards, and I just dont understand why they think like that. I mean its not because your parent raised you in christianity that you have to be christian. Its not because 99% of the world population beleive in Christianism that you have.
Everybody, oh yea, everybody, even me, you, anyone toughts, are directly in correlation with how you have been raised, where you have been raised and with who you have been raised. This is a bit scary, isnt it? You arent even sure to completly think by yourslef. This is why i ask to each of you and myself included to deeply think in what you beleive, and each time you debate with someone, always ask you why you think like this.
Try it. Why are you like you are? :thumbsup:
peace
it's called growing-up, buddy.
Musician
01-21-2006, 05:37 PM
ok ganj
i didnt know that
thx for your constructive answer
apart from you, thx everyone for answering.
poorprincess
06-14-2006, 02:34 AM
I think we are affected by our environment but not molded by it. Of course what we are comes from where we come from, but WE have to make the ultimate choice of taking what we want and leaving everything else.
Stoner Shadow Wolf
06-14-2006, 07:15 PM
no really, y'all gotta listen to the all knowing, all powerful booger of light!
metamorph
06-24-2006, 12:49 AM
maybe there is some inbuilt genetic "you". I dont know.
But at least 90% of who you are is a result of you're unique set of experiences & how you interpret them. Example; 300 years ago in england, the ideal woman was plump, white & submissive. Now the ideal woman (generalising here) is tanned, skinny & independant. Thus, we can't even make out own ideals! dosen't that piss you off!?
SO...
if you're identity is the result of you're conditioning, then the only way to truly "be yourself" is to be selective in you're conditioning.
step 1) Don't Watch TV!:rasta:
Delta9
06-24-2006, 01:09 AM
A Pagan Stoner spirit?
beachguy in thongs
06-24-2006, 01:58 PM
I have this screen reading software called, Jaws. It reads everything on the screen, and it also tells me which keys I'm pressing in order for me to do my own tiping, instead of using Dragon Natural or having somebody tipe for me. Dragon Natural is a voice recognission program that can work properly if you have a mike, and also if you spend at least twenty hours learning how to use the program. The voice recognission part of it takes a while for someone to get used to, and the same goes for the program as well. I don't mind explaining how I can utalize a computer in my own way, no offence has been taken. If you're still wondering about stuff feel free to ask questions. Anyways... I'm going to fire up a bowl... laters.
I have a similar program for my computer. However, I just have double-vision and took a typing course in 10th grade. :smokin:
poorprincess
06-30-2006, 02:56 AM
no really, y'all gotta listen to the all knowing, all powerful booger of light!
your probably right. We should all look to the booger of light that came out of your butt for guidence. *smacks self on the face* what the hell was I thinking!
FunkyMonkey
06-30-2006, 05:59 AM
My beliefs stem from my own seeking and my own personal experiences.
I came to a point in my life where I was seeking direction. I was looking for something to make me feel my life had more meaning than work eat sleep fuck work eat sleep smoke fuck etc. I started to read a lot about various spiritual paths, I challenged myself on what my heart said when I asked it " what the fuck is the purpose of all this bullshit? Why the FUCK should I keep on keepin on in this society that I HATE and apparently hates me back?!"
And I sat and wrote and wrote and wrote. My hand moved, words appeared on the page and I was intrigued. These words did not come from me. I did not compose these things in my mind.
When I read what was before me on the page I was awe struck.
I read things that opened my mind, my heart and forced me to re examine my perceptions. Things were re-woken within me. Feelings and knowledge rushed forward like a tidal wave and I knew again that I had a purpose. I began to explore this 'new' perspective I had.
I compared my feelings and thought against what I could see before me.
Never being one to trust what my eyes showed me , I dug deeper, and awake things within me that had been sleeping for too long.
It was like a sudden slap in the face. I remembered. I unlearned what had been forced into my mind from years of societal programming and I began to trust those voices again that I had doubted for so long.
And over the years, the things that I experienced expanded my awareness to allow me to acceot things that most people ignore.
My beliefs are all 100% a result of things I have experienced personally. nothing came from a book or someoe elses direction.
I gained faith , faith that if the things that I knew to be real now were foreign and 'impossible' to me before then there must be more.
And through my faith...my refusal to disregard any posssiblilty, came more and more experiences that reinforced my confidance that I waked the right path for me. As i accepted each new possibility I experienced things that solidified the belief that 'yes this too is possible'
My beliefs are a result of having faith that anything is possible when you remove restrictions in your mind that blind you to change and evolution.
Each time I removed a roadblock I experienced something that i could never have experienced prior.
So, to end my ramble , my beliefs are a result of blind faith reinforced by personal experience.
I know that what I believe is true because I have 'been ther done that'
thanks for listening :)
peace.
robert42
06-30-2006, 12:19 PM
why was musician banned?
TMBGoofball
07-05-2006, 11:52 AM
your probably right. We should all look to the booger of light that came out of your butt for guidence. *smacks self on the face* what the hell was I thinking!
Hahaha
Yeah, seriously, you didn't even have the slightest notion to focus yourself on the Almighty Booger of the Anus? What ignorance!
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