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Libertarian Toker
08-04-2004, 12:51 PM
http://blogs.salon.com/0002762/stories/2003/08/17/drugWarVictims.html

John Adams

64 years old
Lebanon, Tennessee
October, 2000 Shot to death during a SWAT drug raid while watching TV. The house didn't match the description on the warrant.

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Xavier Bennett

8 years old
Atlanta, Georgia
November, 1991 Xavier was accidentally shot to death by officers in a pre-dawn drug raid during a gunfight with one of Xavier's relatives.

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Delbert Bonnar

57 years old
Belpre, Ohio
October, 1998 Shot 8 times by police in drug raid. They were looking for his son.

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Veronica Bowers

35 years old
Charity Bowers


7 months old

In the air over Peru
April, 2001 As part of a long-standing arrangement to stop drug shipments, U.S. government tracking provided the information for the Peruvian Air Force to mistakenly shoot down a Cessna plane carrying missionaries. Killed in the incident were Roni Bowers, a missionary with the Association of Baptists for World Evangelism, and her daughter, Charity. As of August, 2003, the United States is considering reinstating the shoot-down program. Perhaps they think by now we've forgotten.

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Rudolfo "Rudy" Cardenas

43 years old
San Jose, California
February, 2004 Rudy was a father of five who was passing by a house targeted by narcotics officers attempting to serve a parole violation warrant and the police mistakenly thought he was the one they were there to arrest. They chased Cardenas, and he fled, apparently afraid of them (they were not uniformed). Cardenas was shot multiple times in the back.

Dorothy Duckett, 78, told the Mercury News she looked out her fifth-floor window after hearing one gunshot and saw Cardenas pleading for his life. "I watched him running with his hands in the air. He kept saying, 'Don't shoot. Don't shoot,'" Duckett said. "He had absolutely nothing in his hands."


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Jose Colon

20 years old
Suffolk, New York
April, 2002 Jose was outside the house where he had come to repay a $20 debt, when a drug raid on the house commenced. He was shot in the head by SWAT.

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Troy Davis

25 years old
North Richland Hills, Texas
December, 1991 During a no-knock raid to find some marijuana plants he was growing, he was shot to death in his living room. There are disputed accounts regarding whether he had a gun.

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Annie Rae Dixon

84 years old
Tyler, Texas
January, 1993 Bedridden with pneumonia during a drug raid. Officer kicked open her bedroom door and accidentally shot her.

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Patrick Dorismond

26 years old
New York, New York
March, 2000 Patrick was a security guard who wanted to become a policeman. He was off-duty and unarmed when he went out with friends. Standing on the street looking for a taxi, he was approached by undercover police who asked to buy some marijuana from him. Patrick was offended by the request (he didn't use drugs), and a scuffle ensued. Dorismond was then shot to death by the police.

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Shirley Dorsey

56 years old
Placerville, California
April, 1991 Rather than being compelled to testify against her 70-year-old boyfriend (Byron Stamate) for cultivating the medicinal cannabis she depended upon to help control her crippling back pain, Shirley Dorsey committed suicide. She saw it as the only way to prevent the forfeiture of their home and property. Despite her suicide, Stamate was sentenced to 9 months prison, and his home, cottage, and $177,000 life savings were seized.

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Juan Mendoza Fernandez

60 years old
Dallas, Texas
September, 2000 Police found a variety of drugs when they raided the Fernandez' home. However, Juan apparently believed he was the victim of burglars during the raid, and was shot while trying to protect his 11-year-old granddaughter. He and his wife had been married 36 years and had four children and 13 grandchildren.

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Curt Ferryman

24 years old
Jacksonville, Florida
August, 2000 Undercover agents were attempting to arrest Ferryman, who was in his car and unarmed. A DEA agent knocked on the car window with his gun to get the suspect's attention, and the gun went off, killing him as he sat in the car.

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Willie Heard

46 years old
Osawatomie, Kansas
February, 1999 SWAT conducted a no-knock drug raid, complete with flash-bang grenades. Heard was shot to death in front of his wife and 16-year-old daughter who had cried for help. Fearing home invasion, he was holding an empty rifle. The raid was at the wrong house.

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Clayton Helriggle

23 years old
Eaton, Ohio
September, 2002 Clayton was shot to death while coming down the stairs during a suprise raid. He was carrying either a gun or a plastic cup, depending on the report. Less than an ounce of marijuana was found.

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Esequiel Hernandez

18 years old
Redford, Texas
May, 1997 Hernandez was shot and killed by a Marine sniper in camouflage who was part of a military unit conducting drug interdiction activities near the Mexican border. Esequiel was out herding his family's goats and had taken a break to shoot at some tin cans with his antique rifle.

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John Hirko

21 years old
Pennsylvania
1997 An unarmed man with no prior offenses was shot to death in his house by a squad of masked police. In a no-knock raid, they tossed a smoke grenade in through a window, setting the house on fire. Hirko, suspected of dealing small amounts of marijuana and cocaine, was found face down on his stairway, shot in the back while fleeing the burning building. When the fire was finally put out, officers found some marijuana seeds in an unsinged plastic bag.

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Lynette Gayle Jackson

29 years old
Riverdale, Georgia
September, 2000 Shot to death in her bed by SWAT team.

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Officer Ron Jones

29 years old
Prentiss, Mississippi
December, 2001 Officer Jones was in the process of serving a drug warrant, based on an informant tip. While trying to enter the rear of a duplex, he was shot by the resident, Corey Maye, who had no prior record. No drugs were found. Maye was charged with capital murder.

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Tony Marinez

19 years old
De Valle, Texas
December, 20001 Officers conducted a drug raid on a mobile home in De Valle. Martinez, who was not the target of the raid, was asleep on the couch when the raid commenced. Hearing the front door smashed open, he sat up, and was shot to death in the chest.

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Peter McWilliams

50 years old
Laurel Canyon, California
June, 2000
Peter was a world-famous author and an advocate of medical marijuana, not only because he believed in it in principle, but because it was keeping him alive (he had AIDS and non-Hodgkins lymphoma). After California passed a law legalizing medical marijuana, Peter helped finance the efforts of Todd McCormick to cultivate marijuana for distribution to those who needed it for medical reasons. Federal agents got wind of his involvement, and Peter was a target for his advocacy. He was arrested, and in federal court was prevented from mentioning his medical condition or California's law. While he was on bail awaiting sentencing, the prosecutors threatened to take away his mother's house (used for bail) if he failed a drug test, so he stopped using the marijuana which controlled his nausea from the medications and allowed him to keep them down. He was found dead on the bathroom floor, choked to death on his own vomit.

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Ismael Mena

45 years old
Denver, Colorado
September, 1999 Mena was killed when police barged into his house looking for drugs. They had the wrong address.

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Pedro Oregon Navarro

22 yeqrs old
July, 1998 Following up on a tip from a drug suspect, 6 officers crowded into a hallway outside Navarro's bedroom. When the door opened, one officer shouted that he had a gun. Navarro's gun was never fired, but officers fired 30 rounds, with 12 of them hitting Pedro. No drugs were found.

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Mario Paz

65 years old
Compton, California
August, 1999 Mario was shot twice in the back in his bedroom during a SWAT raid looking for marijuana. No drugs were found.

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Charmene Pickering

27 years old
Brooklyn, New York
July, 2001 Charmene was a passenger in a car driven by a drug suspect. State troopers and DEA agents were in the process of arresting the driver when the trooper's gun went off and hit Charmene in the neck, killing her. Both passenger and driver were unarmed.

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Manuel Ramirez

Stockton, California
January, 1993 At 2 am, police smashed down the door and rushed into the home of Manuel Ramirez, a retired golf course groundskeeper. Ramirez awoke, grabbed a pistol and shot and killed officer Arthur Parga before other officers killed him. Police were raiding the house based on a tip that drugs were on the premises, but they found no drugs.
Officer Arthur P. Parga

32 years old
Stockton, California
January, 1993

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Deputy Keith Ruiz

36 years old
Travis County, Texas
February, 2001 Ruiz was a husband and father who was a veteran of numerous SWAT raids. In the process of serving a drug warrant, he was trying to break down the door to a mobile home occupied by painter Edwin Delamora, his wife, and two young children. Confused by the raid at night, Delamora yelled to his wife that they were being robbed and shot through the door, killing Ruiz.

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Donald P. Scott

61 years old
Malibu, California
October, 1992 Government agencies were interested in the property of this reclusive millionaire. A warrant was issued based on concocted "evidence" of supposed marijuana plantings, and a major raid was conducted with a 32-man assault team. Scott was shot to death in front of his wife. No drugs were found.

A later official report found: "It is the District Attorney's opinion that the Los Angeles County Sheriffs Department was motivated, at least in part, by a desire to seize and forfeit the ranch for the government. Based in part upon the possibility of forfeiture, Spencer obtained a search warrant that was not supported by probable cause. This search warrant became Donald Scott's death warrant."

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Alberto Sepulveda

11 years old
Modesto, California
September, 2000 Alberto was killed by a shotgun blast to the back while following police orders and lying face down on the floor during a SWAT raid. He was a seventh-grader at Prescott Senior Elementary School.

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Gary Shepherd

45 years old
Broadhead, Kentucky
August, 1993 When a Kentucky drug task force came to uproot his marijuana plants in August 1993, pot-grower and Vietnam vet Gary Shepherd told them, "You will have to kill me first," took out his rifle and sat down on his front porch. That evening he was shot dead in front of his infant son. Despite the fact that Shepherd never fired a shot and his family was pleading with authorities for negotiations, state police sharpshooters appeared from the brush without warning and opened fire when he refused to drop his rifle.

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Alberta Spruill

57 years old
Harlem, New York
May, 2003 Police, acting on a tip, forced their way into Spruill's home, setting off flash grenades. She suffered a heart attack and died. It was the wrong address.

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Ashley Villareal

14 years old
San Antonio, Texas
February, 2003 Ashley went outside at night with a family friend to move their freshly washed car under shelter. DEA agents, interested in her father, were staking out the house, and believing that her father was driving, shot and killed Ashley. The agents did not have a warrant for her father. Read The Murder of Ashley.


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Kenneth B. Walker

39 years old
Columbus, Georgia
December, 2003 Walker and three companions were pulled over in an SUV by police in a drug investigation. No drugs or weapons were found, but Walker was shot in the head. Walker was a devoted husband and father, a respected member of his church, and a 15-year middle-management employee of Blue Cross and Blue Shield.

Deputy David Glisson, who killed Walker, was fired three months later for failing to cooperate in an investigation into the shooting.


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Accelyne Williams

75 years old
Boston, Massachusetts
March, 1994 Accelyne was a retired Methodist Minister and substance abuse counselor. After an informant gave police a bad address, a SWAT raid was conducted on the minster's home. The door was battered down, Williams was tackled to the floor and his hands tied behind his back. He died of a heart attack.

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While those above were victims of the tactics of the Drug War, there are many others who lost their lives as a result of this war..
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Isidro Aviles

33 years old
New York
Isidro received a 23 year sentence for crack cocaine conspiracy based on $52 cash and the bargained testimony of a repeat criminal. 7 years later he died in prison of an undiagnosed and untreated illness. His mother, Teresa, works tirelessly with the November Coalition, Drop the Rock and others to change the laws and help other families shattered by the war. Read my article about this mother and her son.

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HogoshaKishi
08-04-2004, 05:36 PM
That really is horribly sickening... I wish I could find more words to say, but that's about all that comes to mind.

MRB041
08-04-2004, 06:50 PM
Who the fuck shoots an 11 year old in the back with a shotgun. Horrible

Lulu
08-04-2004, 08:10 PM
Unneccessary tragedies every one
Things like that shouldn't ever be forgotten

*shakes head :(

az666
08-04-2004, 08:24 PM
who the fuck shoots anyone? People need to sort themselves out, yeah they have to protect themselves but shooting unarmed people and KIDS is fucking sick. Dicks

clevemire
08-04-2004, 08:31 PM
Annie Rae Dixon

84 years old
Tyler, Texas
January, 1993 Bedridden with pneumonia during a drug raid. Officer kicked open her bedroom door and accidentally shot her.

How the hell do you kick down a door and then 'accidentally' shoot an old bedridden woman??? I hate pigs so much!!

rufusthestuntbum
08-04-2004, 09:00 PM
How many times you think they get the wrong adress shoot the occupant and then plant the drugs to cover their ass? Doesnt seem like it matters if they shoot a person who has no drugs, so if they kill a "dealer" they are heros. I would prob think it was a home invasion if someone kicked in my door too. I remember the shootind down of the missonaries plane, true evil. Cops should go fight real crime

IntrepidS
08-04-2004, 10:42 PM
this is horrible. Fuck the government and the police (although I don't live in the states)

dog420
08-05-2004, 12:33 AM
Dam! just makes ya think "Do i really want to be a drug dealer" is it worth it,,the money? the power? the street cred? or for what ever reason.....it is so true what people say about american cops....."they shoot,,,then ask the questions"

Just wasted lives caused by trigger happy cops....

So the next time ya think its a cool/good idea to become a drug dealer read this thread and think hard.

peace

Phresh as it Gets
08-05-2004, 08:04 AM
im not sure... i thought this thread was about how horrible cops can be, not about how horrible drug dealers are, but w/e

dog420
08-05-2004, 08:23 AM
im not sure... i thought this thread was about how horrible cops can be, not about how horrible drug dealers are, but w/e
you didnt really read my replie that well then...i didnt say nothing about dealers being horrible...im saying that the cops wont hesitate to bust down a dealers door and pump the place full of lead.

KronicKing
08-05-2004, 09:50 PM
thats sick....i had to go and hit the punching bag for an houre after reading this makes me sick...but pll cops were killed for no reason as well i dont like pigs in the least and its fuckin sick they could shoot a 11 yr old but they're jus doing what they're told(not sayin they were told to be sick assholes im talkin about other cops not the sick fucks who did these things) most cops i agree are power triping assholes who love shootin pll but im sure some that have been killed where doin wot they were told to feed there family...a yr ago a cop accidentaly shot a bum who wos threatning him with a pipe he had the gun up and all but he pulled the trigger on accident the reason i acctualy think it wos an accident was that when he called it in he was cryin and the next day he quit and hasnt been heard from since some arnt bad pll but most are

KillaBuzz
08-05-2004, 10:00 PM
yah thatz definatly fucked up. KK has a good point tho, if u were a cop, goin into a raid im sure ud b ready ta pull the trigger. but thatz NO excuse ta shoot ANYONE unless they had a gun pointed at the U, which then wood b understandable fer the cop ta shoot. but my oppinion ov tha police remainz n alwayz will: FUCK EM ALL
PeAcE

Libertarian Toker
08-06-2004, 12:50 AM
They shot an old man here in Denver not long ago for having a pop can in his hand. He was to sick to get out of his bed, so they shot him where he laid. They do it all the time. Not just in drug raids either. With the cops always doing this type of thing, and other things to the public, it's no wonder they are so scared of us they got to keep their hand on their guns at all times. You don't have to deal to be shot by the cops anymore, you can be just any old body laying in a bed, and they will feel threatend enough to shoot and kill you, after breaking into your home, if you happen to be holding anything. It seems like that if your holding something it justifies use of deadly force to them. Well I don't by that for a second. The cops should be the ones that have to take the risk. If they are so scared they will shoot at the drop of a dime, then they are doing nothing but protecting themselves instead of protecting us. It's my opinion that they should take the risk of being shot first, instead of taking the first shot. They do have body armour and vests and all that. Really though, it's these no knock raids that are the biggest problem, and they need to stop that type of action all together.

Toker

agourapot
08-06-2004, 05:46 AM
the worlds fucked and EVERY government in the world is scandelous and corrupt. get fucking used to it. they have to be just as ruthless as the druglords to accomplish anything.

KronicKing
08-06-2004, 11:36 AM
wot? how can u say "its just part of there job"(paraphasing) aur? i did but i pointed how how it wosnt as well...shootin a 11 yr old is "part of the governtment?

Libertarian Toker
08-06-2004, 01:52 PM
the worlds fucked and EVERY government in the world is scandelous and corrupt. get fucking used to it. they have to be just as ruthless as the druglords to accomplish anything.

Well, if they ended the drug war those lords would go right away now wouldn't they. Then they wouldn't need to be so ruthless to people laying in their beds drinking pop. The drug war is what causes the violence. End the war and it will end the violence that comes with it.

"get fucking used to it"

You get fucking used to it and roll over and die for the government! I think I'll fight it whenever and where ever I see it. Getting used to people being killed for no reason by the people that are supposed to protect us is not something I will ever be able to fucking get used to. What the fuck has their ruthless ways accomplished? Not a damn thing! Yet you want me to just get used to it? Yeah right buddy, that's what I'm gonna do, get fucking used to it. Then again, maybe I fucking won't!!!

Toker

agourapot
08-06-2004, 07:51 PM
Well, if they ended the drug war those lords would go right away now wouldn't they. Then they wouldn't need to be so ruthless to people laying in their beds drinking pop. The drug war is what causes the violence. End the war and it will end the violence that comes with it.

"get fucking used to it"

You get fucking used to it and roll over and die for the government! I think I'll fight it whenever and where ever I see it. Getting used to people being killed for no reason by the people that are supposed to protect us is not something I will ever be able to fucking get used to. What the fuck has their ruthless ways accomplished? Not a damn thing! Yet you want me to just get used to it? Yeah right buddy, that's what I'm gonna do, get fucking used to it. Then again, maybe I fucking won't!!!

Toker

i dont condone murdering children, i pointed out the fact that every government is corrupt. i have family that "dissapeared" during the coldwar,the government wrongly accused my relative of treason. it wasntproven to be an error by the government until after the family "dissapeared"

agourapot
08-06-2004, 07:59 PM
Well, if they ended the drug war those lords would go right away now wouldn't they. Then they wouldn't need to be so ruthless to people laying in their beds drinking pop. The drug war is what causes the violence. End the war and it will end the violence that comes with it.

"get fucking used to it"

You get fucking used to it and roll over and die for the government! I think I'll fight it whenever and where ever I see it. Getting used to people being killed for no reason by the people that are supposed to protect us is not something I will ever be able to fucking get used to. What the fuck has their ruthless ways accomplished? Not a damn thing! Yet you want me to just get used to it? Yeah right buddy, that's what I'm gonna do, get fucking used to it. Then again, maybe I fucking won't!!!

Toker

what people protect us? the government doesnt care about us,you're on your own. just 10 mins away from me in canoga park i know kids who have beat down by cops and had evidence planted on them if they said anything about lawyers. the cops know they cant afford lawyers anyways,so its a normal thing. get out of mommy and daddys house and realize that anyone over 30 knows how fucked up the government is.

KronicKing
08-06-2004, 08:24 PM
agour maybe you should look into some of libs other post? and see wot hes talking about...yore just brain washed to think its alwalys been this way and always will be...we can change it in a way

Libertarian Toker
08-06-2004, 09:49 PM
"what people protect us?"

Supposed to protect.

"just 10 mins away from me in canoga park i know kids who have beat down by cops and had evidence planted on them if they said anything about lawyers. the cops know they cant afford lawyers anyways,so its a normal thing."

Is that something you really want to get used to? When you say get fucking used to it, your saying I should just roll over and let the government fuck me. No thanks man. That type of apathy leads to more tyranny.

" anyways,so its a normal thing."

No, it's not normal, it is not very normal at all. It is a crime, and should be punished as such.

"get out of mommy and daddys house and realize that anyone over 30 knows how fucked up the government is."

Let me guess, your answer to the government being fucked up is for us to just get fucking used to it? So your saying there is nothing that can be done, so we should just except it? I think I would rather take my chances speaking out against the fucked up things our government does, then to just get used to it. BTW, I'm 38. I have 4 kids. 19, 17, 10 and 6. I own my home, so I think I'll just stick around awhile.

Toker