MASTERKUSH X LOWRYDER

[Fugitive]

A fresh start here for me :)

I have been patiantly waiting to grow these MasterLows for a while now. I am hoping to build on my last grow it didn't go quite to plan, hopefully I am more experienced now.

I will be growing them in 1,5 ltr bottles, I have not gone and bought the soil yet so if anyone could recomend a good UK brand that would be great.

9 seedlings are now in a glass of water and I will hope for the best :D

[Powder Puff]

Cool!:D

Good to see you growing like a real MAN!:D

[Fugitive]

Thanks PowderPuff ;)

I am already having doubts about the bottles I have just found out that 1.5 liter is only 0.39 gallon(S?) so what should I do are the bottles too small :confused:

[Nochowderforyou]

Thanks PowderPuff ;)

I am already having doubts about the bottles I have just found out that 1.5 liter is only 0.39 gallon(S?) so what should I do are the bottles too small :confused:

No, the bottles should be fine for the time being. But later on down, the road, you will have to transplant into something bigger.

Also, do you plan on covering up the outside of the bottles? Don't want to burst your bubble, but those bottles, must be covered up with something as not to expose the roots to light. Roots don't like the light and if you keep those clear bottle clear, problems will arise.

What I suggest you do, is wrap the outsides of the bottles up with something to cover them. Or, go buy some empy pots at Wal-Mart. They are about $1.99 per 8inch round container.

Peace

[Fugitive]

OK scrap the 1.5 liter bottles, I have been doing some reading on the official Lowryder grow guide :D

"For best results, place jiffy pellet or plant directly into 1-2 gal.pots. Alternatively, start in 4-inch peat pots, then place
rootbound females into a plant bed after sexing (at approx. 17-20 days)"

"Lowryder females usually grow no taller than 16-20 inches. 12-16 inches is typical. Light intensity, pot size, and proper pH all play an important role in determining the size of plants at maturity â?? the better the conditions, the bigger the yield. Plants produce one main cola, although when they receive adequate light, lower nodes branch out profusely." :D

[Powder Puff]

noechowder, do they even have wall mart in the UK? And I agree with you on the pot room.. And yet.. I would just put them into a gigantic pot, and leave it at that.. I'm never transplanting again!!:p

And Fugitive, I know, I just told you!:D

[Nochowderforyou]

noechowder, do they even have wall mart in the UK?

Ah, now that I don't know :p

I'm sure they have some kind of retail stores there with Garden Centers. Just a store, with any garden section, should have pots.

I suggest start with small pots, then transplant later into bigger ones. Transplanting is not that hard. To have a successful transplant, the plant has to have a well developed root system. How do you know? I let the soil dry out completly, then I very gently, lift the plant up by its stem, then I see how much of the dirt has clumped together. If its really crumbly when lifting, don't transplant yet. Wait until it comes out all in one piece.

I start with small 4inch pots, then when my lady is ready to be put into something bigger (approx. 4-5weeks of life), I then transplant into 8inch square pot.

Peace

[Nochowderforyou]

I'm also curious as how this cross of these 2 strain would flower. I know Lowryder is an autoflowering strain, but I know that the Kush isn't, so if you mix these 2 together, does that make it an auto flower as well? :confused: I've always wondered that.

[Powder Puff]

Yeah, transplanting is not hard, but I tend to make it very stressfull..!:o

[Powder Puff]

I'm also curious as how this cross of these 2 strain would flower. I know Lowryder is an autoflowering strain, but I know that the Kush isn't, so if you mix these 2 together, does that make it an auto flower as well? :confused: I've always wondered that.
On this one, I think it's 50 % of them auto flower.. I'm not sure.. Fugitive, You know this??

[Fugitive]

Hey yeah im too lazy to transplant :D I really don't know about the auto flowering potential of the cross ive read 100%, 50% i will just try to keep it on 18/6 for 20 something days.. There isnt a wal-mart (wish there was) but I am going to Homebase on Wednesday.

[Powder Puff]

You told me something about Zandor telling you.. What was it? I can't recall it..

[Fugitive]

I don't know what you are talking about dude..?

[Powder Puff]

lol.. Never mind.. It was on the phone a while ago!:D

[scobbie]

john mills soil from b&q ive used it the last twice you may get it from homebase but if not asda are owened by wall mart so they sell the same things good for a prowl some good growen stuff hope it helps

[Da1KrayzieThug]

Some autoflower and some don't, either way I'm pretty sure that they don;t get too tall so you probably would be perfectly fine with a mid sized pot. I think HARDDON found some pics of a guy who had a full grow in 2 liter bottles and I'm sure that MDanzig's cross would do just fine. The original LowRyder wasn't supposed to get over 12" from seed to harvest. Although there were some rare cases that they got higher, it's not likely. I'm sure that the MasterLows won't get to be too tall. Of course bigger pots would be better I'm just saying that they aren't absolutely necessery. Goodluck my friend and KEEP US POSTED. I want to see how those turn out.

[MrLzyBones]

A fresh start here for me :)

I have been patiantly waiting to grow these MasterLows for a while now. I am hoping to build on my last grow it didn't go quite to plan, hopefully I am more experienced now.

I will be growing them in 1,5 ltr bottles, I have not gone and bought the soil yet so if anyone could recomend a good UK brand that would be great.

9 seedlings are now in a glass of water and I will hope for the best :D


Actually these are not MasterLow this is the parents of MasterLow but true MasterLow is supposed to be 100% AF. MD used this combo to make MasterLow but these are from somewhere along the way. You'll find alot more info on Highbred which is the homesite for Lowryder and MD is now admin there and others doing pure LR and crosses.I have been giving away PowerStout and Lowryder and some of its crosses in the contest section.

[Fugitive]

Actually these are not MasterLow this is the parents of MasterLow but true MasterLow is supposed to be 100% AF. MD used this combo to make MasterLow but these are from somewhere along the way. You'll find alot more info on Highbred which is the homesite for Lowryder and MD is now admin there and others doing pure LR and crosses.I have been giving away PowerStout and Lowryder and some of its crosses in the contest section.

Damn OK so I should swith to 12/12 will that diminish yields?


Some autoflower and some don't, either way I'm pretty sure that they don;t get too tall so you probably would be perfectly fine with a mid sized pot. I think HARDDON found some pics of a guy who had a full grow in 2 liter bottles and I'm sure that MDanzig's cross would do just fine. The original LowRyder wasn't supposed to get over 12" from seed to harvest. Although there were some rare cases that they got higher, it's not likely. I'm sure that the MasterLows won't get to be too tall. Of course bigger pots would be better I'm just saying that they aren't absolutely necessery. Goodluck my friend and KEEP US POSTED. I want to see how those turn out.

OK thanks dude, I will be keeping them in the bottles because I went looking for square 1 gal pots but couldnt find them.

I went to Homebase and I really hate going there first of all I have to take the train so I didn't want to buy more than 10 liters dont want to carry. I also hate the neighbourhood its in :( I had smoked some pot, and when arriving at the station there is a sign saying "attention, we have seen a rise in youths,often on bicycles stealing mobile phones etc. " that made me paranoid then I walked on another sign "Can you help, Murder, man fatally shot, silver car seen speeding away" So I was really shitting myself, beacause I was stoned and didnt want to bump into someone wanting my money lol :D especially seeing as I have potting compost on me (they would beat the shit out of me) :)
But everything went fine and I ended up buying Orchid Compost bad move?

[Fugitive]

Oh yeah Scoobie I was looking for that but they had a really small selection and it wasnt there thanks for the advice though :)

[Powder Puff]

Damn OK so I should swith to 12/12 will that diminish yields?



OK thanks dude, I will be keeping them in the bottles because I went looking for square 1 gal pots but couldnt find them.

I went to Homebase and I really hate going there first of all I have to take the train so I didn't want to buy more than 10 liters dont want to carry. I also hate the neighbourhood its in :( I had smoked some pot, and when arriving at the station there is a sign saying "attention, we have seen a rise in youths,often on bicycles stealing mobile phones etc. " that made me paranoid then I walked on another sign "Can you help, Murder, man fatally shot, silver car seen speeding away" So I was really shitting myself, beacause I was stoned and didnt want to bump into someone wanting my money lol :D especially seeing as I have potting compost on me (they would beat the shit out of me) :)
But everything went fine and I ended up buying Orchid Compost bad move?
Haha.. lol!:D

So, what light's are you going to grow them under?:)

[Da1KrayzieThug]

I think it might work out cuz I use the orchid nutes and they've dont just fine. Goodluck.

[Az.]

hey dude....

im just germinating my very first grow, which is just lowryder. Im starting with 3 seeds first just to mess around with...see how things go etc etc...all 3 seeds have cracked and the tap roots are just showing....been germinating for about 36 hrs now.

regarding the lighting times...i got this off the grow guide you said you were reading.

"I recommend 18 hours per day; this can be decreased to 16 after the first month with no loss of yield."
but that is just pure lowryder....so im not sure if it will vary in crosses

hope all goes well with your grow....keep us updated as im very interested in lowryder crossbreeds

:)

[MrLzyBones]

Damn OK so I should swith to 12/12 will that diminish yields?





No drop them to 18/6 if they don't AF at 24/7 and than if they still don't start to flower drop again to 12/12. You still have a chance to AF just a small % and I'm not sure at what stage these are before MD released it.

[Fugitive]

Sure AZ.. I will keep this updated with pics probably every 5 days or so :) at the moment they are germinating and two are showing sign of the white taproot. I am using the charging battery of my laptop as a heat mat. Thanks lazybones for that info on the lighting times.

[Az.]

Sure AZ.. I will keep this updated with pics probably every 5 days or so :) at the moment they are germinating and two are showing sign of the white taproot. I am using the charging battery of my laptop as a heat mat. Thanks lazybones for that info on the lighting times.

sweet dude...i planted mine the day before yesterday
gunna take some pics soon.

i germinated using the paper towel method....on top of my radiator...all 3 germinated....:)

[Fugitive]

Thats a good start :) I am really worried howvever, OK two issues I didnt have enough soil for 9 bottles (10 liters duh) :o I am also very worried about the orchid mix soil, it isnt exactly ideal for sowing seedlings :eek: but I will have to wait to see the outcome how long does it usually take? also I am very lucky because I managed to save the two seeds before they germinated so if all goes wrong and the seeds dont pop out of the dirt I will do a 3 plant grow ;)

[Az.]

Thats a good start :) I am really worried howvever, OK two issues I didnt have enough soil for 9 bottles (10 liters duh) :o I am also very worried about the orchid mix soil, it isnt exactly ideal for sowing seedlings :eek: but I will have to wait to see the outcome how long does it usually take? also I am very lucky because I managed to save the two seeds before they germinated so if all goes wrong and the seeds dont pop out of the dirt I will do a 3 plant grow ;)

sweet dude!
Looking good so far!

have you planted them yet?

im not sure about the soil im using either....i have enough of it but i have no idea what the quality of it is like.
my room was also getting too hot today....so i moved some stuff around and hopefully it will all be good for tonight.

[Fugitive]

hello :) yeah they are all planted, its just that usually you would use just straight compost but this time I have decided to use orchid mix..there is all kinds of barks and shit in there. Will you be doing a journal on your Lowryder grow? :) that would be great ;)

[SittinStoney420]

Hey everyone, im not trying to hijack. i just had a quick question since we were on the topic of autoflowering. I have A lady that is about 4 ft. tall, i got her from bagseed and she has been AutoFlowering for a while now. Because i haven't switched her to 12/12 (wanted her to be a mother plant) her pistil's have begun to curl up and turn brown. I have now decided its too late to clone her (plus shes a beauty and i dun wanna chop her up ;). So im going to flower her pretty soon, will she produce less because i have had her in this autoflower stage for so long?

[SittinStoney420]

BTW looks GREAT so far Fugitive!

[lemonboy]

I am also very worried about the orchid mix soil, it isnt exactly ideal for sowing seedlingsI bought some of that on recommendation too and ended up throwing it out. I opened it and was really disappointed. Huge pieces of bark and charcoal! Scary looking.

[Powder Puff]

The orchid mix should have GREAT drainage, no?:)

I'm sure you'll do fine Fugitive.. Maybe some other soil? Or are you to scared to go back?:rolleyes:

[Az.]

hello :) yeah they are all planted, its just that usually you would use just straight compost but this time I have decided to use orchid mix..there is all kinds of barks and shit in there. Will you be doing a journal on your Lowryder grow? :) that would be great ;)

yea dude im going to start my own log as soon as they are seedlings....
...i'm going to start again anyway because the growroom was FAR too hot and i think it cooked the little seedlings.....need to get better ventilation in there before i try again.

[Fugitive]

Hello all the seeds have sprouted and they are now officially seedlings :) I won't be doing almost daily updates as was the case in my last growlog ;) got a little excited about growing weed for the first time :D This time around I will update weekly on monday.

SittinStoney420 hello :) what strain are you growing ? just switch to 12/12 when you feel like it :D if you have a lot of space keep growing it and you will get more when flowering. I need to note however that plants sometimes double in size when flowering.

Lemonboy. I felt the same way when I first had a look at it, but I don't have another choice (well im lazy) I am just having to rely on it and see how it does :)

PP, I hope so, but im pretty confident that it will do alright :thumbsup:

AZ. I can't wait to see your growlog :D I have been thinking of a lowryder outdoor grow myself.

Here they are all 7 sprouted :D

[Powder Puff]

Look's fine to me!: )

I think you should update, twice a week!:)

[Fugitive]

These ones are growing kind of weird, Two of the mkxlw are growing really well and fast but the other five just won't grow much :confused: anyways here are some pics not much too get excited about.

[Powder Puff]

The look fine!:)

I've seen worse!:p

The small ones will eventually get bigger!:)

[BkSkillz]

loken good from my experience usually the first and fastest to sprout and develop ends up being male..dont mean to jinx you but loken good thusfar

[Powder Puff]

Haha.. lol.. He almost threw his blueberry away.. He thought it grew to fast, thus being a male!:)

Don't get exited to throw a grow away! You know I did..!:p

[Da1KrayzieThug]

That's wierd, the two plants that are growing faster than the other seem to be very far along for being only day 7. The other ones look pretty much "on time". Maybe it's an accident in Mdanzig's breed. Goodluck <3

[MrLzyBones]

These ones are growing kind of weird, Two of the mkxlw are growing really well and fast but the other five just won't grow much :confused: anyways here are some pics not much too get excited about.

I would keep a good eye on the smaller ones they may AF on you...

[Az.]

Just thought id see how things are going dude?
I still havent got round to starting my grow....

im just experimenting with some bagseeds that i got a while ago.....just to see if it is actually possible to keep this g-room cool enough ....

but im interested in seeing how things are going for you??
Please update :D

[Powder Puff]

lol.. I've talked to him.. He only updates on mondays!:p

Later

[Fugitive]

Thanks for the replys everyone I really appreciate it :)
I just thought I would update the situation once a week at least in this boring vegetative stage :cool:
So far things are not looking good for me, my grows always tend to be full of annoying problems :D this time around I have 5 buggers that still look like seedlings 14 days from sprout, and what is worse there seems to be a nitrogen deficiency already :( they are turning yellow in places... Hopefully things will look up soon:dance:

[Powder Puff]

You haven't gotten anouther fert for veg?

You left the Baby Bio at my place.. lol

Well.. More for me on my next grow! lmao!:)

P.S. Check out the Nitrogen defficiancy on my Shaman.. lol



P.P.S. Don't worry.. They will pick up sometime!:) I have my fingers crossed!:)

[Babylon timewarp]

Are you interested in trading crosses and Lowryder type seeds? cheers m8

[Az.]

Any news on this grow?? :)

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lol.. He bailed!!:p

It was NOT a sucess.. :( Well... ANYWAY..

Just let it die!:p Like his plants!!!:D:D loller..