Ecstacy- dont you guys know its bad for you

[ibreakthings]

Theres like 10 threads right now about taking E. So many people are doing it.

Its fucking bad for you. To show you, most people say that after a certain amount of times taking it, it doesnt work anymore; it loses its magic. Thats because its burning your seretonin receptors, and is gonna leave you depressed the rest of your life.

The way it works is, your brain has a chemical called seretonin, which is like happy juice. X makes it all rush into the receptors at the same time, which is why you are so happy and feel so good.
It uses all the seretonin up, and stretches/burns out those receptors, so it takes more seretonin to keep you happy. Thats why you are usually depressed when you come down, cuz you dont have any happy juice left. Then, once the levels go back up, you're still kinda depressed because those receptors got stretched and you dont have enough seretonin to fill the bigger holes.

Over time, these receptors get more and more burnt out and your seretonin levels get mroe and more fucked up. This is why it doesnt work after a certain amount of times, cuz you dont have any more seretonin to waste.


(This information may not be completely 100 percent correct but its god damn close and has a general idea of what it is)

Using x once or twice wont severely damage ur brain, but its still a bad idea. If you want to do it, go ahead, but just keep this info in mind and know that you've been warned. I just thought id let everyone know this so you guys dont fuck your brains up before its too late....peace

[bedake]

Theres like 10 threads right now about taking E. So many people are doing it.

Its fucking bad for you. To show you, most people say that after a certain amount of times taking it, it doesnt work anymore; it loses its magic. Thats because its burning your seretonin receptors, and is gonna leave you depressed the rest of your life.

The way it works is, your brain has a chemical called seretonin, which is like happy juice. X makes it all rush into the receptors at the same time, which is why you are so happy and feel so good.
It uses all the seretonin up, and stretches/burns out those receptors, so it takes more seretonin to keep you happy. Thats why you are usually depressed when you come down, cuz you dont have any happy juice left. Then, once the levels go back up, you're still kinda depressed because those receptors got stretched and you dont have enough seretonin to fill the bigger holes.

Over time, these receptors get more and more burnt out and your seretonin levels get mroe and more fucked up. This is why it doesnt work after a certain amount of times, cuz you dont have any more seretonin to waste.


(This information may not be completely 100 percent correct but its god damn close and has a general idea of what it is)

Using x once or twice wont severely damage ur brain, but its still a bad idea. If you want to do it, go ahead, but just keep this info in mind and know that you've been warned. I just thought id let everyone know this so you guys dont fuck your brains up before its too late....peace

im not gonna even bother man

[RastaKaze]

(This information may not be completely 100 percent correct but its god damn close and has a general idea of what it is)

Well I think that says it all :)

[kimchibanana]

for me it was this way i took the e then while i was on the E i relized where my life was going and that was what made me really really depressed for a while.

[halo]

thank you man

does the same thing happen with coke?

[ibreakthings]

Well I think that says it all :)


I've done my research, im just saying that im not an expert on it... This is all true though

[ibreakthings]

thank you man

does the same thing happen with coke?


Coke screws with your dopamine, seretonin and norepinephrine and their receptors. It kinda like, keeps them inside the receptors and they build up... I dunno what effect this has on your happiness but coke is pretty bad for you and your heart. Id suggest not using it but if you must dont do it a lot. Again, once or twice wont ruin you, but its easy to get outta hand.

It also makes your sense of smell really bad.. dunno if youd care but id hate to not be able to smell.

[harmonicminor]

Ibreakthing is correct
burning out your serotinin receptors for life is just plain dumb.
Its almost as bad as....
here man let me inject the aids virus into your brain, its good for a 10 minute buzz

[RastaKaze]

I've done my research, im just saying that im not an expert on it... This is all true though
Hey, I found where you got that information. Good looks man. I'm glad I've only done it once, and have no idea where to get more lol

[ADaisyChain]

Live and let live?

[CocaCola]

I have a friend who's sister was an E head... She's perfectly happy and no damage at all. Se also abused many other substances. I GUESS SHE WAS LUCKY, RIGHT?

[bedake]

yea, i know alot of old school ravers that have been taking e for like 15 years, they are fine but hey whateva, never once met anyone harmed from long term usage and i know alot of E takers

[FieldofHerb22]

My friend has a hole in his skull from that shit.

[bedake]

im sure he does

[thcbongman]

My friend has a hole in his skull from that shit.

Nothing causes holes in your brain except a barrel of a gun.

[bedake]

Nothing causes holes in your brain except a barrel of a gun.


YES!

[Syrus]

If you got your "dangers of E" information from a goverment site or something like DARE im gonna bitchslap you for being stupid.

And in all fairness i could jsut go, why do you keep drinknig coffe or tea, dont you realise that it causes your body to tire faster and results in serious insominia, think im lying im living proof.

Why do you keep eatnig chocolate, dotn you know that its 80% sugar and fat, its release causes the release of serotonin which makes it addictive, it damages your liver and kidneys and makes you fat.

Why do you keep eating your fast food, dont you realises its more chemical than E, serioulsy look at McDonnalds or burgerking buns, real bread doesent look liek that.


the morral of the story is dotn winge botu my addiction and i wont winge bout yours. For christ sake do you want to live in a nanny state? i personally enjoy the choice of how i want to slowly kill myself.

[FieldofHerb22]

Nothing causes holes in your brain except a barrel of a gun.


Not skill but tissue or some shit. I am not a Doctor. But thats BS. He used to drop E pills every fuckin day. He had a head scan or whatever you call it done and shit. Keep ravin bedake! Rave till your heat explodes!

[Doobie Snax]

Theres like 10 threads right now about taking E. So many people are doing it.

Its fucking bad for you. To show you, most people say that after a certain amount of times taking it, it doesnt work anymore; it loses its magic. Thats because its burning your seretonin receptors, and is gonna leave you depressed the rest of your life.

The way it works is, your brain has a chemical called seretonin, which is like happy juice. X makes it all rush into the receptors at the same time, which is why you are so happy and feel so good.
It uses all the seretonin up, and stretches/burns out those receptors, so it takes more seretonin to keep you happy. Thats why you are usually depressed when you come down, cuz you dont have any happy juice left. Then, once the levels go back up, you're still kinda depressed because those receptors got stretched and you dont have enough seretonin to fill the bigger holes.

Over time, these receptors get more and more burnt out and your seretonin levels get mroe and more fucked up. This is why it doesnt work after a certain amount of times, cuz you dont have any more seretonin to waste.


(This information may not be completely 100 percent correct but its god damn close and has a general idea of what it is)

Using x once or twice wont severely damage ur brain, but its still a bad idea. If you want to do it, go ahead, but just keep this info in mind and know that you've been warned. I just thought id let everyone know this so you guys dont fuck your brains up before its too late....peace

bedake i agree with you, i wouldn't bother, but this guy seems ignorant and uneducated.

Please research, start here:
http://www.dancesafe.org/slideshow/

I hope one day you will realise that this thread was a stupid idea.

[Doobie Snax]

My friend has a hole in his skull from that shit.

In his skull? Are you sure? I never realised that they burnt wholes in one's skull... i mean i've heard the bullshit about holes in your brain, but your skull? Goddamn that's a whole different matter, i'd better stop right away.

:cool:


KEEP RAVING PEOPLE!!!!!
:dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance:

[bedake]

hehehe i know people that have taken 10 pills a day on a regular basis, they are fine dont believe me? oh well you probably never seen people with access to it for extremely cheap and party all the time. they werent addicted they just had a high tollerance. and they arnt messed up at all

doobie snax nice, i forgot about that slideshow

[Nullific]

George Ricaurte is the man from John Hopkins University who supposedly proved MDMA's potential for neurotoxicity with an article he and other researchers published in Science magazine. First of all, the research was based on experiments funded by the government. Primates were injected with what they considered to be recreational doses of MDMA and the result was an article about severe dopaminergic neurotoxicity.
Ricaurte retracted this article a year later because his team fucked up and used methamphetamine instead of MDMA. Above all, that recreational dosage of MDMA they thought they administered was in reality a 50-fold overdose of meth.
http://www.laweekly.com/ink/03/43/news-lewis.php

After this the subject of MDMA neurotoxicity remains very controversal. Maybe frequent, heavy doses will start to cause damage to serotonin axons but serotonin itself will replenish itself. Maybe the only real risk of MDMA neurotoxicity comes with complications such as overheating. Perhaps antioxidants can be taken to lessen the severity of any such toxicity exhibited by MDMA.
Right now we don't really know, and we wont so long as there are jackasses like George Ricaurte and the government encouraging research that only shows the negative consequences of drug use.
This hasn't stoped me from doing ecstasy in the past and it wont prevent me from doing it again. I believe if MDMA did cause any significant or even moderate damage to the brain, considering all the people who have used it, we should be in some MPTP-type scenerio.


Over time, these receptors get more and more burnt out and your seretonin levels get mroe and more fucked up. This is why it doesnt work after a certain amount of times, cuz you dont have any more seretonin to waste. The secret is to not do ecstasy often. Even at a rate of every other week a user will notice diminished effects. I've rolled more times than I can count, always taking breaks in between. I still feel the effects, never have very bad come downs nor any after-roll depression. Am I some sort of anomaly or just someone who understands the concept of mind over matter?
If you come down and think "Ohh life sucks so much now that I am not on ecstasy, I need to kill myself" that means you're a bitch.

http://thedea.org/neurotoxicity.html - Best MDMA resource on the internet.

[bedake]

George Ricaurte is the man from John Hopkins University who supposedly proved MDMA's potential for neurotoxicity with an article he and other researchers published in Science magazine. First of all, the research was based on experiments funded by the government. Primates were injected with what they considered to be recreational doses of MDMA and the result was an article about severe dopaminergic neurotoxicity.
Ricaurte retracted this article a year later because his team fucked up and used methamphetamine instead of MDMA. Above all, that recreational dosage of MDMA they thought they administered was in reality a 50-fold overdose of meth.
http://www.laweekly.com/ink/03/43/news-lewis.php

After this the subject of MDMA neurotoxicity remains very controversal. Maybe frequent, heavy doses will start to cause damage to serotonin axons but serotonin itself will replenish itself. Maybe the only real risk of MDMA neurotoxicity comes with complications such as overheating. Perhaps antioxidants can be taken to lessen the severity of any such toxicity exhibited by MDMA.
Right now we don't really know, and we wont so long as there are jackasses like George Ricaurte and the government encouraging research that only shows the negative consequences of drug use.
This hasn't stoped me from doing ecstasy in the past and it wont prevent me from doing it again. I believe if MDMA did cause any significant or even moderate damage to the brain, considering all the people who have used it, we should be in some MPTP-type scenerio.

The secret is to not do ecstasy often. Even at a rate of every other week a user will notice diminished effects. I've rolled more times than I can count, always taking breaks in between. I still feel the effects, never have very bad come downs nor any after-roll depression. Am I some sort of anomaly or just someone who understands the concept of mind over matter?
If you come down and think "Ohh life sucks so much now that I am not on ecstasy, I need to kill myself" that means you're a bitch.

http://thedea.org/neurotoxicity.html - Best MDMA resource on the internet.


great post, read it again peoples
I used to have bad come downs but now they arnt bad at all, drink OJ before and after to help with the feeling of being cracked out and for the loss of the ecstasy feeling i dunno guess i got used to it or something

[FieldofHerb22]

I prefer coke! Way safer drug I say. And you can party as long as you want with it. BTW...I didn't mean skull I meant scar tissue on the brain. Sorry for the mess up.

[Doobie Snax]

Dude are u serious? X is cheap and lasts for ages, coke is expensive and lasts half an hour at most... am i missing something?

[yoda]

Dude are u serious? X is cheap and lasts for ages, coke is expensive and lasts half an hour at most... am i missing something?

never done coke, but e is cheaper and lasts longer. and yeah, i always have bad comedowns(except for from 2 of the orange handprints, was actually alright), but thats just cause im blown and didnt want the roll to end. and i generally feel depressed for a few dyas after, but not want to die. just everything p;isses me off and its hard to feel happy, except after smoking up of course.

[bedake]

im serious, drink orange juice and it will help the come down loads. i had 2 pills last night and i am perfectly fine and happy only problem is my jaws are sore and my body from dancing..

coke is a huge waste of money ive seen way to many peoples lives go to waste from it, on the other hand never once seen a persons life get bad from ecstasy funneh aint it?

[Syrus]

When will peopel realsie that the goverment bullshtis them. dot any of you people remember reefer madness? acording to that were all psychos who go round killngi peopel and raping people.

oh bedake i know ur right, theres soemthing in orange juice (cant rememebr name) that helps in the creation of serotonin.

[ibreakthings]

if i had been listening to the government propoganda I'd be telling you that you will die from overheating or something. This is just logic... we all know that ex works by releasing all your seretonin at once so why wouldnt that mess up the receptors? They are only meant for a certain amount and when u force a shitload into them, of course theyre gonna get stretched.

Im not completely against using x, I'm even planning to try it once or twice. It's just that it seems like more people are using it now and most dont seem to know how it even works, so I'm letting them know.

[bedake]

actually about the only reason people die from x is either bunk, or overheating/dehydration due to dancing way to much

[Not Enough Herb]

e is such a safe drug

im on a green apple right now...it was a huge pill i paid 15 bucks for it and im fucked as hell.

e doesnt damage your brain, because otherwise id be retarded by now

dont listen to the government or anyone elses bullshit. do the drug urself and find out

later

[ibreakthings]

it doesnt make you retarded or kill you, it just makes you depressed.... god damn how hard is that to understand.

n how would doing a drug show me that it doesnt damage my brain? banging ur head on a wall really hard damages your brain but you wouldnt figure that out from banging ur head really hard, would you?

[Bonger]

I used to roll back in the day and I really enjoyed it at first but after a month of doing it about once a week family members were starting to ask me if i was feeling okay all the time, apparently i looked really skinny and just terrible in general, not to mention i felt like shit. Also I had a terrible time turning that shit down, it was just so good and before i knew it i was doing it on school nights. It was then that i came to the realization that i needed to stop. It was hard at first until I found a new friend in Marijuana haha :smokin:. So anways this is mostly in response to bedcake, I have seen plenty of people fuck up their lives from E, I fucked up a small part of my life from E and still would be fucking it up if everyone around me hadnt of helped me get off of it. I understand where you guys are coming from defending E but you dont have to shove it ibreakthings face, his info may be faulty but E is by no means safe and i dont think anyone here should be encouraging others that there is absolutely nothing wrong with it especially since many impressionable young people hang out on these forums. Be Safe Everyone! Peace.

[SensiRide]

God, I have so much to say on this topic, but I'll keep it simple -
There is DRUG USE & there is DRUG ABUSE

I've been through the whole E thing - from the 'honeymoon period' to being put on prozac for popping pills every night & going down 3 dress sizes cos they are so damn good, but now, I do them occasionally and enjoy it this way.

Nobody has the right to preach to anyone about what they choose to put into their bodies- fuck, the government brainwash people too much.

I know the facts about E, and I really truly believe that alcohol is worse.
That, however, is my opinion - obvioulsly there will be people that agree and people who disagree, the world would be a pretty boring place if we all agreed on everything

[Bonger]

God, I have so much to say on this topic, but I'll keep it simple -
There is DRUG USE & there is DRUG ABUSE

I've been through the whole E thing - from the 'honeymoon period' to being put on prozac for popping pills every night & going down 3 dress sizes cos they are so damn good, but now, I do them occasionally and enjoy it this way.

Nobody has the right to preach to anyone about what they choose to put into their bodies- fuck, the government brainwash people too much.

I know the facts about E, and I really truly believe that alcohol is worse.
That, however, is my opinion - obvioulsly there will be people that agree and people who disagree, the world would be a pretty boring place if we all agreed on everything

True that Sensi.

[FieldofHerb22]

God, I have so much to say on this topic, but I'll keep it simple -
There is DRUG USE & there is DRUG ABUSE

I've been through the whole E thing - from the 'honeymoon period' to being put on prozac for popping pills every night & going down 3 dress sizes cos they are so damn good, but now, I do them occasionally and enjoy it this way.

Nobody has the right to preach to anyone about what they choose to put into their bodies- fuck, the government brainwash people too much.

I know the facts about E, and I really truly believe that alcohol is worse.
That, however, is my opinion - obvioulsly there will be people that agree and people who disagree, the world would be a pretty boring place if we all agreed on everything

agreed...you speak the truth.

[jbuckets]

some ppl have alot of money to spend

[thcbongman]

Not skill but tissue or some shit. I am not a Doctor. But thats BS. He used to drop E pills every fuckin day. He had a head scan or whatever you call it done and shit. Keep ravin bedake! Rave till your heat explodes!

It doesn't cause holes. That's not simply how the brain functions. Certain functions may have lower activity, it simply ceases, doesn't cause holes.

[highjinx]

hehe taking so much e that you trip is cool! :dance:

but remember kids: DRUGS ARE FUN! :thumbsup:

[paulcky411]

fuck, the government brainwash people too much.

I know the facts about E, and I really truly believe that alcohol is worse.
That, however, is my opinion - obvioulsly there will be people that agree and people who disagree, the world would be a pretty boring place if we all agreed on everything


I AGREE 100% - if you're smart about it (ie. take the proper supplements / don't take it too often, it's fine)

[Syrus]

hmm by some of the peopels views here taknig 3.7pills a day (averaged out) over a mnoth would leave you mentally retarded. I KNOW with a 100% guarantee that it doesent, i know 5 people who did that at the same time. Ahh when my friend got the 500. All ti did was leave temporary effects.

[ibreakthings]

I read alot about E and this is pretty much what alot of reliable resources tell me. But, you guys seem to know more and have more experience. I guess just like any drug, if you take it responsibly it wont cause any damage... you cant be sure though.

[Doobie Snax]

Just to clarify i'm on xtc's side

[hubblebubble]

its what you make of it dickhead if you want to be a doom and gloom depressaroon that thats what your going to be it only makes sense maybe if you were to think positive then the outcome would be different

[Doobie Snax]

"i'm not even going to bother"