AHHG!!! TRANCE IS NOT TECHNO

[Dopa]

I've seen soooo many situations where people call DJ Tiesto, Armin Van Burin, Paul Oakenfold, and similar artists techno and you are almost entirely wrong. There is the biggest fucking difference in the world between TRANCE and TECHNO. Yes they are both subcatagories of electronica but THEY ARE IN NO WAY SIMILAR. Techno is crappy ofton random noise making with a gay sounding bouncy bassline and virtually no melody except for random noise. The synths are ofton very jagged saw waves and usually has no or little filter cutoff.

Trance on the other hand is much more cleaner sounding and actually more melodic with more rounded sounding synths and a bassline closely in sync with the beat. The "arps" are usually filtered with a low pass filter so all the annoying high frequency's are filtered out that get that "screaming" synth that you ofton hear in techno music. So all you get is a smooth arp for teh harmony or melody.

Also another big difference is techno is usually in the upper 150-180 bpm (beats per minute) which is just fucking annoying. Trance is usually anywere between 120-140 bpm i think.

People many times have confused Trance with techno and sometimes they are dumb enough to say there is no difference. I have had even relatives before ask me "what type of music do you listen to again? Techno?" and they are so fucking stupid because i've told them time after time again that my music is trance and there is a big fucking difference between the two.

So those of you on here that cant tell the difference just remember techno is like fuckng random noise and trance is more melodic and no where as primitive. Surely trance music fans on this board can relate to what i'm talkin about this just bugs the hell out of me.

[Musician]

i really hate any electronic music seriously i cant imagine how ppl can listen it hours a day in their mp3 or whatever

but i must say its a good music to dance. but again, im not into techno or raves. i prefer big punk-metal slams!!

and i prefer melodic music with instruments, voices, solos, anything. really electronic music doesnt give me any emotions or nothing special.

but yes techno and trance arent the same, just like rap and hip-hop, punk and commercial punk, classic metal-heavy metal-power metal-death metal, etc etc

[shrek45]

i agree techno and trance are way different. i dont listen to techno at all but trance i will on occasion, like when i am shrooming or when i am sober and i just want to hit the highway and drive like a bat outta hell. lol. but besides that all i really have to say is that trance gets me kinda pumped up in a sence so i have to be doing something exciting to listen and enjoy

[Dopa]

but yes techno and trance arent the same, just like rap and hip-hop

Yes,people don't go around calling hip-hop and rap the same thing so why do they call trance and techno the same. I've had people say "oh, your listening to techno" when i'm clearly listening to trance. "It's like OMG you retard i wanna fucking strangle you". I don't see how it's even possible to get the two mixed up? :confused: :confused: :mad:

[Musician]

lmao

[bedake]

yea i love electronic music! it doesnt really bother me when people get them confused cause i really dont expect them to know any better, i dont listen to rap so i dont know the difference between rap and hip hop.

I usually tell people that i listen to techno thats faster than normal techno, cause if i said i listen to happy hardcore hardcore, gabber, industrial, drum and bass jungle trance psy trance goa trance they would be like.... "OMG REALLY?!!!?! i like DJ sammy!!", and then id have to kill them

[anycraic]

yeah electro, drum in bass, progressive trance, goa/psy, funky house, jungle, tech trance and some techno are good, but most people wouldnt know the difference,

bit like the way i wouldnt have a clue about any pop celebrites and shit cause i never watch or listen to it

[esrabalamir]

the music is universal

[ibreakthings]

dude wtf i guess there is no such thing as techno unles you wanna go bang on a bunch of stuff really fast and call it techno.....u guys are gay they sound the same... sure you can go make up subcategories for everything if you want to but there the same thing and some just sound different than others. You could say something like "this song is subhardcore terranian techno because it has 110 bpm and a 400 hz tune" but you will just sound like a retard.

[pabloescobar209]

I've seen soooo many situations where people call DJ Tiesto, Armin Van Burin, Paul Oakenfold, and similar artists techno and you are almost entirely wrong. There is the biggest fucking difference in the world between TRANCE and TECHNO. Yes they are both subcatagories of electronica but THEY ARE IN NO WAY SIMILAR. Techno is crappy ofton random noise making with a gay sounding bouncy bassline and virtually no melody except for random noise. The synths are ofton very jagged saw waves and usually has no or little filter cutoff.

Trance on the other hand is much more cleaner sounding and actually more melodic with more rounded sounding synths and a bassline closely in sync with the beat. The "arps" are usually filtered with a low pass filter so all the annoying high frequency's are filtered out that get that "screaming" synth that you ofton hear in techno music. So all you get is a smooth arp for teh harmony or melody.

Also another big difference is techno is usually in the upper 150-180 bpm (beats per minute) which is just fucking annoying. Trance is usually anywere between 120-140 bpm i think.

People many times have confused Trance with techno and sometimes they are dumb enough to say there is no difference. I have had even relatives before ask me "what type of music do you listen to again? Techno?" and they are so fucking stupid because i've told them time after time again that my music is trance and there is a big fucking difference between the two.

So those of you on here that cant tell the difference just remember techno is like fuckng random noise and trance is more melodic and no where as primitive. Surely trance music fans on this board can relate to what i'm talkin about this just bugs the hell out of me.
you said " Fucking" 5 times in that whole thread, and what did it do for it... made you look dumb :thumbsup:

[bedake]

i think you look just a tad dumb for pointing that out

[pabloescobar209]

i think you look just a tad dumb for pointing that out
No beleive me you look dumb when you use profanity, it's just unneeded, reread his post and everytime he says fucking just eliminate it and it looks much less childish it looks and sounds. I'm not bashing anybody, just giving friendly advice and my 2 cents :)

[bedake]

isnt your username the big coke cartel guy?

everyone swears who cares man

[Euphoric]

you said " Fucking" 5 times in that whole thread, and what did it do for it... made you look dumb :thumbsup:


The teletubbies are so proud of u right now mission accomplished

[BizzleLuvin]

wow man i feel your pain. i hate when people cant believe that there are subcategories like house and acid. well duh! there are subcategories of rock, why not electronica. and fuck you whoever says they hate techno

[pabloescobar209]

isnt your username the big coke cartel guy?

everyone swears who cares man
beleive me i really don't care... just offering advice on how to be taken seriously, and yes Pablo Escobar was the boss of the biggest columbian coke cartel ever... buy " killing pablo" great documentary.

[anycraic]

wow man i feel your pain. i hate when people cant believe that there are subcategories like house and acid. well duh! there are subcategories of rock, why not electronica. and fuck you whoever says they hate techno

indeed

[bedake]

whats even crazier about electronic music is that theres alot of subgenres of sub genres

Acid
Acid Jazz

Breaks
Breaks, Acid
Breaks, Big Beat
Breaks, Chemical
Breaks, Funky
Breaks, House
Chill Out
Electro
Electronica
Experimental
Gabber
Hardcore
Hardstyle
Hip Hop
House
House, Acid
House, Chicago
House, Deep
House, Disco
House, Dub
House, French
House, Funky
House, Hard
House, Minimal
House, Progressive
House, Speed Garage
House, Tribal
House, Turkish
House, Vocal
Jungle
Jungle, Drum & Bass
Jungle, Hardstep
Jungle, Intelligent
Jungle, Jazz
Jungle, Jump Up
Jungle, Techstep
Techno
Techno House
Techno, Detroit
Techno, Minimal Deep
Techno, Minimal Hard
Trance
Trance, Acid
Trance, Breaks
Trance, Goa
Trance, Hard
Trance, Progressive
Trip Hop


do i know the difference of all of em.... no only some

[pabloescobar209]

whats even crazier about electronic music is that theres alot of subgenres of sub genres

Acid
Acid Jazz

Breaks
Breaks, Acid
Breaks, Big Beat
Breaks, Chemical
Breaks, Funky
Breaks, House
Chill Out
Electro
Electronica
Experimental
Gabber
Hardcore
Hardstyle
Hip Hop
House
House, Acid
House, Chicago
House, Deep
House, Disco
House, Dub
House, French
House, Funky
House, Hard
House, Minimal
House, Progressive
House, Speed Garage
House, Tribal
House, Turkish
House, Vocal
Jungle
Jungle, Drum & Bass
Jungle, Hardstep
Jungle, Intelligent
Jungle, Jazz
Jungle, Jump Up
Jungle, Techstep
Techno
Techno House
Techno, Detroit
Techno, Minimal Deep
Techno, Minimal Hard
Trance
Trance, Acid
Trance, Breaks
Trance, Goa
Trance, Hard
Trance, Progressive
Trip Hop


do i know the difference of all of em.... no only some
drum and bass is awesome

[ibreakthings]

They shuldnt have so many subcategories. Who gives a fuck anyway. If you like how a song sounds, listen to it. If you dont, dont listen to it. There should be like only the big categories like rock, hip hop, jazz, classical, techno, gay bitches who cant sing, etc.. whats the point of breaking all those into other categories? There is none. No one goes and says "hey u wanna go listen to some hardcore classical house rock slash jazzblues slash soulhop slash subterrainian suite today?" hell, no one even says "hey wanna go listen to some rock" they just say a band or radio station god damn

[pabloescobar209]

They shuldnt have so many subcategories. Who gives a fuck anyway. If you like how a song sounds, listen to it. If you dont, dont listen to it. There should be like only the big categories like rock, hip hop, jazz, classical, techno, gay bitches who cant sing, etc.. whats the point of breaking all those into other categories? There is none. No one goes and says "hey u wanna go listen to some hardcore classical house rock slash jazzblues slash soulhop slash subterrainian suite today?" hell, no one even says "hey wanna go listen to some rock" they just say a band or radio station god damn
gay bitches who cant sing, etc..


^^^^ lol, thats a big category

[ibreakthings]

lol well they all sound the exact same so you cant argue with me that that category shouldnt have subcategories. right. other ones could though i mean theres a lot of different types of rock, ill admit that.

[bedake]

they shouldent but they do... its like when i told my friend that all the bands he listens to are emo and hes like no they arnt they are <insert brand of shitty music here> thats when i found out emo is an actual music genre now when the fuck did that happen? Ive been using it for a long time as a term for emotional rock that soft shitty and otherwise crappy

[BizzleLuvin]

i am a fan of progressive house, acid, big beat break, jungle DnB, chicago house, tribal house, chill, and deep house

[bedake]

lol well they all sound the exact same so you cant argue with me that that category shouldnt have subcategories. right. other ones could though i mean theres a lot of different types of rock, ill admit that.


har har har they all dont sound the same, its like saying pop punk and punk sound the same

[Brittoker]

For those of you that can download music on your comp I recommend that you download some Neophyte.

[anycraic]

yeah when ur a fan u can tell the difference real easily, like rock and rap

[BizzleLuvin]

yeah when ur a fan u can tell the difference real easily, like rock and rap

thats the truth

[Trichome.com]

All the categories and subcategories of electronic music are broken down on Ishkurs Electronic music guide V.2.5 ... http://www.ishkur.com/music/#

[IntrepidS]

Thanks for clearing that up for me man. I have started refraining from using the term techno several months ago (maybe longer), when I realized that none of what I listen to is actually techno, it is all house, trance, and their different forms. Now I know to tell people who tell me that techno sucks that they simply don't know what they are talking about because I don't ever listen to techno and they've got the wrong perspective on the entire electronica genre.

[lateralus]

Thanks for clearing that up for me man. I have started refraining from using the term techno several months ago (maybe longer), when I realized that none of what I listen to is actually techno, it is all house, trance, and their different forms. Now I know to tell people who tell me that techno sucks that they simply don't know what they are talking about because I don't ever listen to techno and they've got the wrong perspective on the entire electronica genre.Yeah, I don't use the word techno either. I do use "electronica" to cover all the genres, though.

I listen to a lot of both drum & bass and trance, and there are some massive differences in the genres; no, they don't sound the same, nor do they (most of the time) sound even remotely similar. That doesn't only go for seasoned listeners, either; any moron can tell the differences between Paul Van Dyk and say.. Goldie.

To those who'd say music shouldn't be classified: even bands/producers/etc who share an exact genre can sound utterly different, let alone all genres under a partciular category sounding the same. I don't like all genres of electronica. Isn't it easier for me to say which specific genre I don't enjoy, and which ones I do? There's a HUGE world of music out there, and without classifications, it would be harder to find artists whom you know for sure you'd enjoy.

:twocents:

[cambam]

I like progressive house, by DJ's such as Anne Savage, Lisa Lashes and also Tidy Boys.

Euphoric DJ's such as Dave Pearce, Tiesto and Mauro Picotto are also good. Hardhouse Extreme by acts like Dougal and Gammar and various other artists.

No real relevance in this post, but just lettin ya know what sort I like.

[smokey]

techno trance an all electronica is noise to me
real music is stuff like rock n reggae played with real instruments not a jumped up keyboard (synth)

[thcbongman]

techno trance an all electronica is noise to me
real music is stuff like rock n reggae played with real instruments not a jumped up keyboard (synth)

Until you see their live shows.......

[LOVElife]

Until you see their live shows.......
YeaH SLAMMIN VINYL (R.I.P), no instruments used, just pure Bounce!

Fuckin' love it!

Check this track out:

DJ Liquid - I cant stop Raving (An Old Classic)

Enjoy!!!!! :thumbsup:

[anycraic]

just listenin to some armin van buuren right now, for those who dont know he's a dutch trance dj, one of the best imho

[Synthesizer Man]

techno trance an all electronica is noise to me
real music is stuff like rock n reggae played with real instruments not a jumped up keyboard (synth)

There is no such thing as real music or real instruments.

[AcidFreak]

They both suck in my book :)

[VoidLivesOn]

Techno sucks.

Trance sounds like techno.

Therefor it sucks.

[bedake]

Techno sucks.

Trance sounds like techno.

Therefor it sucks.


i hate when people say that, but then im always happily aware that they must not be real music lovers, and not know anything about music at all since they cant tell the difference

[anycraic]

potatoes

[Dopa]

Thanks for clearing that up for me man. I have started refraining from using the term techno several months ago (maybe longer), when I realized that none of what I listen to is actually techno, it is all house, trance, and their different forms. Now I know to tell people who tell me that techno sucks that they simply don't know what they are talking about because I don't ever listen to techno and they've got the wrong perspective on the entire electronica genre.

Thanks IntrepidS for agreeing with me on this. By the way your avatar is the best on this site i think. DJ Tiesto is god almighty himself. :cool: :rasta:

For those of you that can't tell the difference and say electronica is "noise" or "shit", I can say with the utter most confidence that you lack any sense in music and all you "give a fuck about" is the "vocals" that are shitty and which belong under the category "gay bitches who cant sing" listed above by someone.

You are musically blind and don't focus on the melody's or basic elements that make up a REAL song like Intro, melody build up, main melody, breakdown, changeup, final breakdown, outro. You are too worried about "gay bitches who cant sing". Vocals are not what should make up a song entirely it should be evenly balanced with instrumentals and beats. That's why Vocal Trance is better than most of the SHIT out there that you musically dead people listen to.

Those of you who can't tell the difference between electronica genres are either not trying or are just plane retarded and musically braindead from a mix of crappy lyrics and shitty as fuck instrumentals.

Go LISTEN to music by Moby and there you will have techno. Listen to Paul Van Dyke or Armin Van Burren or Tiesto and you will have Trance. There is as big of a difference as there is between Rock and Hip-Hop.

No i'm not dissing everyone's music here because it's not electronica i'm just showing how foolish some people really are. :mad:

[Dopa]

*NOTICE* Use of CAPS and BOLD is for the idiots to read and get it through their head. :cursing:

[VoidLivesOn]

i hate when people say that, but then im always happily aware that they must not be real music lovers, and not know anything about music at all since they cant tell the difference


Actually I love the music I listen to and could give a fuck less about yours.

So in my opinion every sub genre of sub genre of genre this thread covers over techno and electronica sucks to me.

Good thing you can't take my opinion away :)

But you can call me an asshole.

[bedake]

Actually I love the music I listen to and could give a fuck less about yours.

So in my opinion every sub genre of sub genre of genre this thread covers over techno and electronica sucks to me.

Good thing you can't take my opinion away :)

But you can call me an asshole.


oh sure have your opinion all im saying is you dont understand music enough to differentiate between two different types

[thcbongman]

Actually I love the music I listen to and could give a fuck less about yours.

So in my opinion every sub genre of sub genre of genre this thread covers over techno and electronica sucks to me.

Good thing you can't take my opinion away :)

But you can call me an asshole.

I don't like rap, it simply doesn't appeal to me, but I know and listened to enough about it to diffenciate between the genres. That's an invalid excuse.

[lateralus]

i hate when people say that, but then im always happily aware that they must not be real music lovers, and not know anything about music at all since they cant tell the differenceI was gonna say that.. thought I'd get flamed, though. :o
Listen to Paul Van Dyke or Armin Van Burren or Tiesto and you will have Trance.Hell yeah. :cool:

[anycraic]

i personally think van buuren is better than tiesto, but its all good

i actually had no idea that americans listened that kinda music, i thought it was all just shitty gay little "ooh i luv u" rap bitches and college rock whiners.

but obviously not

[Rarrr]

Yoji Biomehanika is my personal favourite. I went to see him tripping on acid once, amazing experience.

[anycraic]

id say it was, best trip i ever had was seeing astral projection in a jungle rave in india with a spliff in my hand and a bottle of acid in my pocket

good times

[Rarrr]

id say it was, best trip i ever had was seeing astral projection in a jungle rave in india with a spliff in my hand and a bottle of acid in my pocket

good times
very nice :)

[bedake]

best trip i had was takin a bunch of acid and listining to happy hardcore with my head phones on all night, hixxy, dougal, sy, unknown

[anycraic]

man id love to go to israel someday, a friend of mine from there was tellin me that trance is basically part of society there
and id love to go japan
but im happy enough with europe at the moment, the amount of good djs knocking around is unreal

next event: vitalic,............... and i cant wait

ps. i seem to have posted exactly an hour after the last one huh

[Synthesizer Man]

Despite my S/N I don't like trance or techno. I also don't like female vocals unless they're really deep like Alison Moyet (Yazoo) or Annie Lennox (Eurythmics).

My reason for not liking trance is that it all sounds the same (as in the sounds used) and the light female vocals. I don't even know what techno is to be honest!

That doesn't mean I can't appreciate other genres though. I do like a lot of hip-hop even though I prefer early 80's synthpop.

Anyone noticed how some fans of rock and metal CANNOT, under any circumstances, appreciate other music genres. I've noticed it a lot, and believe it to be FACT!

And the "real instrument" argument doesn't work. A real instrument is something you can sit down with and manipulate with your body. Some people would argue that turntables and mixers are real instruments! And if a synthesizer isn't a real instrument because "the sound is electronically produced" then bear that in mind when you see someone smashing a guitar on stage with all the circuits flying out of it. And with tons of electronic effect pedals everywhere I could safely say that most people don't know what a clean electric guitar actually sounds like!

Even though sitting in front of a computer to make music takes talent, I don't regard it as real music because playing real (ahem, physical) instruments (whether they be drums, guitars, keyboards) is actually quite tiring and requires extra elements of skill, co-ordination and timing.

For those of you who like your music heavy, check out this album (http://www.emusic.com/album/10777/10777110.html). The drummer is amazing! Then check out some of my beautiful equipment over at www.keyboardassassin.tk

[Blowboy]

anyone here likes ambient?
now that's chill
Neophyte rules btw:)

[LOVElife]

best trip i had was takin a bunch of acid and listining to happy hardcore with my head phones on all night, hixxy, dougal, sy, unknown
SLAMMIN VINYL used to be fuckin' amazing!

R.I.P Slammin Vinyl, Closed Down so MK Dons could build their new football ground on the site!

[bedake]

SLAMMIN VINYL used to be fuckin' amazing!

R.I.P Slammin Vinyl, Closed Down so MK Dons could build their new football ground on the site!



holy shit someone else listens to hardcore!!!!!!!!!

ive been all about that on here man gotta listen to the hardcore nothin better to roll and dance to than hardcore i think, nothing gives me more energy to dance than hardcore

[anycraic]

i liked hardcore once