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pisshead
01-12-2006, 03:16 PM
hmmm, forcing to show your id to a cop helps fight terrorism...

New Ohio Law Allows Cops to Request ID

Fox News | January 12 2006 (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,181382,00.html)

Comment: Any law that violates the Constitution is null and void. This law violates the 4th Amendment therefore it is null and void.

Ohio Republican Gov. Bob Taft on Wednesday signed a bill into law passed by the state legislature with barely a word of dissent. Supporters of the state's security measure, which takes effect in 90 days, say it's a tool the state can use in fighting terrorism.

"Like everyone else, after Sept. 11, I became a lot more concerned about our safety and security," said state Sen. Jeff Jacobson, sponsor of the bill, which also instructs local law enforcement to lend assistance when able to federal authorities carrying out provisions of the Patriot Act.

"We felt very strongly that we needed to have laws in Ohio to out our state on the frontline of fighting terrorism," Jacobson said.

But dissent is building over authority given to police officers, who can now ask, "What's your name?" as a tool to fight terrorism. Failure to identify oneself could land an individual in jail.

Critics call the measure the Ohio Patriot Act. The law also requires those applying for state driver's licenses to sign a form that they haven't supported terrorist organizations.

The American Civil Liberties Union opposed the measure because of the new powers it gives to police.

"[It] takes us back to the days of Sen. McCarthy and the House Committee on Un-American Activities with demands that people confess their sins," said Jeffrey Gamso, a spokesman for the ACLU.

But supporters such as police agencies say the new law will be useful without abusing civil rights.

"I think there's enough checks and balances and enough guidelines have been set up by the courts that we will follow," said Michael Weinman, legal liaison for the Columbus, Ohio, police department.

The final version of the bill passed the state Senate with only two 'no' votes.

"People are very afraid to vote against any bill of this nature," said Daniel Tokaji, a law professor at Ohio State University. "They have to stand for re-election and no one wants to be perceived as soft on terrorism."

Others agree that the measure will come up in the upcoming election.

"This doesn't have a little to do with the upcoming election. It has everything to do with the upcoming election," said Chris Redfern, chairman of the Ohio Democratic Party.

Psycho4Bud
01-12-2006, 05:13 PM
I'm so sick and tired of 9-11....unless of course it can sell more air time and videos! Another great post Pissy..... :thumbsup:

eg420ne
01-12-2006, 05:56 PM
What are you talking about Psy? its from foxnews I dont see anywhere in pisshead post that its from AJ selling his videos....Are you smoking bad shit again or something... ;)

Psycho4Bud
01-12-2006, 06:10 PM
What are you talking about Psy? its from foxnews I dont see anywhere in pisshead post that its from AJ selling his videos....Are you smoking bad shit again or something... ;)

Originally Posted by pisshead
9/11 -- The Gift That Keeps on Giving


I'm so sick and tired of 9/11. The Bush regime uses 9/11 like a heroin addict uses a spoon..

But yet ANYTHING that has a 9-11 fingerprint on it he posts. THATS my point. :cool:

pisshead
01-12-2006, 06:12 PM
What are you talking about Psy? its from foxnews I dont see anywhere in pisshead post that its from AJ selling his videos....Are you smoking bad shit again or something... ;)
he makes that comment all the time, even when it has nothing to do with alex jones...

Psycho4Bud
01-12-2006, 06:20 PM
And where did I mention your anal partner pissy??? To bad you have me on ignore...wouldn't look like so much of an idiot when responding! :thumbsup:

eg420ne
01-12-2006, 06:39 PM
OOOOOOHHHHHHH right...............How about i post it-lol---Isnt this America why would they want to see ID, arnt we free to roam freely --OOOh thats right 9-11 happened--Ohio is a bad state anyways very bad......I dont know about you PSY but i cant stand it that our loving leaders keep on making new laws for us sheopple..

Everyday there seems to be new gawd-damn laws for us.. Didnt we have enuff laws B4 9-11... Its not like we already had a War on Drugs to make criminals out of ordinary Americans....



New Ohio Law Allows Cops to Request ID
Wednesday, January 11, 2006

Ohio Republican Gov. Bob Taft on Wednesday signed a bill into law passed by the state legislature with barely a word of dissent. Supporters of the state's security measure, which takes effect in 90 days, say it's a tool the state can use in fighting terrorism.

"Like everyone else, after Sept. 11, I became a lot more concerned about our safety and security," said state Sen. Jeff Jacobson, sponsor of the bill, which also instructs local law enforcement to lend assistance when able to federal authorities carrying out provisions of the Patriot Act.

"We felt very strongly that we needed to have laws in Ohio to out our state on the frontline of fighting terrorism," Jacobson said.

But dissent is building over authority given to police officers, who can now ask, "What's your name?" as a tool to fight terrorism. Failure to identify oneself could land an individual in jail.

Critics call the measure the Ohio Patriot Act. The law also requires those applying for state driver's licenses to sign a form that they haven't supported terrorist organizations.

The American Civil Liberties Union opposed the measure because of the new powers it gives to police.

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"[It] takes us back to the days of Sen. McCarthy and the House Committee on Un-American Activities with demands that people confess their sins," said Jeffrey Gamso, a spokesman for the ACLU.

But supporters such as police agencies say the new law will be useful without abusing civil rights.

"I think there's enough checks and balances and enough guidelines have been set up by the courts that we will follow," said Michael Weinman, legal liaison for the Columbus, Ohio, police department.

The final version of the bill passed the state Senate with only two 'no' votes.

"People are very afraid to vote against any bill of this nature," said Daniel Tokaji, a law professor at Ohio State University. "They have to stand for re-election and no one wants to be perceived as soft on terrorism."

Others agree that the measure will come up in the upcoming election.

"This doesn't have a little to do with the upcoming election. It has everything to do with the upcoming election," said Chris Redfern, chairman of the Ohio Democratic Party.

Psycho4Bud
01-12-2006, 06:52 PM
I dont know about you PSY but i cant stand it that our loving leaders keep on making new laws for us sheopple..

I hear ya but it kind of works in your favor also.....ask some of the Mexicans in the U.S. for their I.D.......isn't that something that the Mexican government is bitching about?

eg420ne
01-12-2006, 07:04 PM
I hear ya but it kind of works in your favor also.....ask some of the Mexicans in the U.S. for their I.D.......isn't that something that the Mexican government is bitching about?
True---Most of them will never get an ID they dont even need it to open up a bank account...Its sad that the mexican govt is bitching about our govt but dont tend to there own peoples needs.....

Psycho4Bud
01-12-2006, 07:23 PM
True---Most of them will never get an ID they dont even need it to open up a bank account...Its sad that the mexican govt is bitching about our govt but dont tend to there own peoples needs.....


It's not just in Texas and California either dude. Up here in the midwest just look for an I.B.P. plant!
http://nebraska.statepaper.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/01/09/43c24cd42b73a

scobbie
01-12-2006, 08:43 PM
"The illision of freedom [in America] will continue as long as its
profitable to continue the illusion.
At that point where the illision becomes to expensive to maintain, they
will just take down the scenery,they will pull back the curtians, they
will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall
at the back of the thearter.

Frank Zappa,musician and cultural iconist

scobbie
01-12-2006, 08:44 PM
ha ha ha ha ha ha

eg420ne
01-12-2006, 09:17 PM
LOL^^^

scobbie
01-12-2006, 09:23 PM
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah