Sharon heavily sedated.

[amsterdam]

My prayers are with his family. This is a strong man who led his country from the heart. He fought for what he believed in with all his heart and soul and anybody can respect that. He has been on the frontline of the battle against islamo-fascism since day one and has never backed down. We should fight just as the israelis have , hard and dirty. :cool:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4585562.stm

[Breukelen advocaat]

My prayers are with his family. This is a strong man who led his country from the heart. He fought for what he believed in with all his heart and soul and anybody can respect that. He has been on the frontline of the battle against islamo-fascism since day one and has never backed down. We should fight just as the israelis have , hard and dirty. :cool:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4585562.stm


OK, here's the skinny from New York: Sharon is a fat slob that ate himself into a massive stroke. Even Jews here are saying that this man's condition is due to gluttony, and it is a disgrace that somebody that is a leader where people are starving has the stupidity, at his age (77 years old), to weigh 300 pounds, at 5'7â?? tall. :twocents:

[amsterdam]

I have been to Israel a few times and I can assure you that people are not starving. Most families lived VERY well and plasma t.v.'s were standard. I still say the guy is a warrior who has been on the front lines for 30 years fighting his ass off. People should have been taking notes.

[Breukelen advocaat]

I have been to Israel a few times and I can assure you that people are not starving. Most families lived VERY well and plasma t.v.'s were standard. I still say the guy is a warrior who has been on the front lines for 30 years fighting his ass off. People should have been taking notes.

The man is a fat slob, and this stroke is his own fault.

If we didn't give Israel billions of dollars a year, most of which goes into their military might, they wouldn't be doing very well - to say the least. And before somebody plays the "anti-Semite" card, I happen to be married into a Jewish (Reformed) family, whose elders attend the NYC Israel Day parade every year, and donate heavily to various Israeli charities. They would rather give the money to Israel than spend it on a vaction there.

The people that are going hungry in that area are not necessarily the "chosen" people, but I'm sure that you could find poverty-stricken Jews as well, if you left the tourist paths.

[amsterdam]

I agree the guy is a fat slob and that people like him bring it all on themselves.

Israel has a booming economy outside their military industry. Alot of ballers over there, straight up Capitalist pimps.

[andruejaysin]

Funny, Pat Robertson would disagree with you. Do I detect a split in the republican ranks? Between the rational people and the lunatics, perhaps? Fat slob that he is/was, he was smart enough to realize that annexation of the west bank/gaza would lead to a "greater israel" with an arab majority. I wonder if his successor will be able to do the math.

[Psycho4Bud]

I wonder if his successor will be able to do the math.

I'm more concerned as how his successor is going to handle the Iranian situation. :cool:

[amsterdam]

Funny, Pat Robertson would disagree with you. Do I detect a split in the republican ranks? Between the rational people and the lunatics, perhaps? Fat slob that he is/was, he was smart enough to realize that annexation of the west bank/gaza would lead to a "greater israel" with an arab majority. I wonder if his successor will be able to do the math.

A split in the ranks? Pat Robertson isnt looked at seriously in any Republican circles. He is a fringe element, like Chompsky or Howard Dean.

[andruejaysin]

A split in the ranks? Pat Robertson isnt looked at seriously in any Republican circles. He is a fringe element, like Chompsky or Howard Dean.No circles, except the only ones which matter. While you may not take him seriously, GW does, which is perhaps more important. And I would bet he has more followers than can recognize the name of noam chomsky. As for howard dean, he has this bad habit, he keeps being right. It is far better politically to tell comforting lies than troubling truths. This is bush's political genius, as it was clinton's. Look 'em dead in the eye, and lie to 'em, they're stupid, they'll fall for it eight days a week.