Anyone Grown Opium Poppies?

[Brittoker]

Anyone here ever grown opium poppies? What level of difficulty was required to grow them, I've heard that it is alot easier to grow than weed, anyone know any good sites on the topic? :rasta: :thumbsup: ;)

[RastaKaze]

There are no sites. You have to fail, learn, fail, learn. I have a set of 12 right now that are just seeding :D took me about 10 growroom adjustments before I finally got their envoronment right. Buy some seeds from an online botanical shop and fool around with them.

[Nochowderforyou]

Rasta is right. The best way to learn how to grow your own, MJ, poppies or fruit, is to learn yourself. Trail and error, over and over, with plenty of patience...but it's fun too. Seeing what works and what doesn't.

As long as you have the basics down of growing, anything, then you should be okay.

To get a seed to grow, dirt, water, light, repeat...a flourishing plant needs food, fertlilizer. Dirt, water, light, feed, repeat.

That's all there is to it. I'm not sure about poppies though, that isn't an interest to me, but good luck on what you're findnig!

[Garden Knowm]

There are no sites. You have to fail, learn, fail, learn. I have a set of 12 right now that are just seeding :D took me about 10 growroom adjustments before I finally got their envoronment right. Buy some seeds from an online botanical shop and fool around with them.


picture please!!!!!

[Nochowderforyou]

Okay, I thought the white poppies were illegal. Can you actually buy opium poppies from a shop...? I highly doubt

[Brittoker]

You can buy Papaver somniferum seeds, which will produce opium.

[Az.]

I'm not sure about a shop but online im pretty sure you can buy white ones....wether they were the correct species of poppy to obtain opium, i do not know.... however i know there are some you can buy which produce opium....but the white ones are best (yeild wise...according to erowid)

But I was actually thinking about growing some aswell....lol....i would love to try some opium. Just once...:)

[Brittoker]

Search Ebay for Papaver somniferum

[dopesmoker]

opium poppies are completely legal until you slice the pod open, which out oozes the white substance, that after a few hours turns a blackish colour, which is raw opium. Many, many gardeners have opium poppies in their gardens due to the fact that they are pretty flowers and the dry pods are often used in dry flower arrangments.

[Web Smoker]

scrool down http://www.neonjoint.com/drug_recipes/chapter9.html look under Harvesting Opium from Poppy seeds

[RastaKaze]

Brittoker is correct... "Papaver somniferum" why are you even asking us lol??? And I'm sorry Garden I can't post pictures... I stopped doing that when kids I kneww were checking out my grow thread. What can I say I'm a secretive motherfucker :)

[endo..jay]

just remember poppies are weeds not a plant! treat it like a weed you dont need any fancy lights florecents work fine outdoor grows are easier imo poppies like alot of compition when growing i have had a few i accidently stepped on and they grew up to be one of the bigger plants

[Brittoker]

The only thing I can't figure out is when to harvest.........

[endo..jay]

the best time is about 2 weeks after the petals have fallen off

when u make ur incisions dont cut too deep 3mm at the most otherwise it will flow too fast cut them in the afternoon and collect the folowing day

[xNoa]

nice mate i didnt know u could get opium that easily i thought it was complicated to extract it, seems not!! wouldnt mind trying a bit

[RastaKaze]

Actually endo you can harvest at different times depending on the desired effects... drop me an email brittoker I'll set you up with all the info you need

[endo..jay]

here is a pic the morning after the cuts the pods will ooze for a few days after the cut

[endo..jay]

Actually endo you can harvest at different times depending on the desired effects... drop me an email brittoker I'll set you up with all the info you need
yea thast is just a general rule of thumb but you must inspect each pod to see if it is ready to harvest

[Nochowderforyou]

Wow, cool information here people. :thumbsup:

I never knew much about opium.

[RastaKaze]

i think I like exotic botanicals better then weed...

[Brittoker]

yea thast is just a general rule of thumb but you must inspect each pod to see if it is ready to harvest

sorry for askin so many questions ,but how do you know when it's ready to harvest? btw thanks for all the info as I'm finding it hard to locate on any sites. :rasta: ;) :thumbsup:

[Brittoker]

drop me an email brittoker I'll set you up with all the info you need

Cheers mate, whats your address? :rasta: :thumbsup:

[OzzyOz]

is it too late to plant if you live in a dry region?

also...

How long does it take from seed to pod on average?

What's the best place to get seeds, are the tasmanian ones good?

[RastaKaze]

Cheers mate, whats your address? :rasta: :thumbsup:doh! of [email protected]

[del...]

here's where i get my supplies. they also sell dried pods with seeds inside...well, just go see...

http://www.izmirpoppy.com/

[RastaKaze]

i had no idea so many people liked opium..

[endo..jay]

yea and even more ppl grow it:thumbsup:

[dopesmoker]

if you're growing opium poppies outside be careful because they spread like wildfire and you dont want them choking out your other plants

[Trichome Creator]

Hen&Chicks. OMG......................

Drools all over keyboard.

[del...]

harvested pods do not produce viable seed tho...

[dopesmoker]

I'm going to be growing it starting this spring, along with mushrooms, and my friend is growing weed, so i'll be all set for the summer

[Trichome Creator]

Oh man. I'm giving myself wood. :)

[Trichome Creator]

There are no sites. You have to fail, learn, fail, learn. I have a set of 12 right now that are just seeding :D took me about 10 growroom adjustments before I finally got their envoronment right. Buy some seeds from an online botanical shop and fool around with them.

Yeah here http://ieo.org/opm_mass.html

Good read.

[Trichome Creator]

harvested pods do not produce viable seed tho...

After you lance the pod the pods can be dried and seeds can be extracted Del...

[RastaKaze]

Ahhhh shut up you knew what I meant :)

[Syrus]

ill definately have to try harvesting opium some time, sounds fun.

[Trichome Creator]

There are some books on it. Here's a good site. www.unclefesterbooks.com

[Brittoker]

Trich, you sound well informed about opium.

[Trichome Creator]

How to grow opium
http://www.a1b2c3.com/drugs/opi006.htm

[Trichome Creator]

Trich, you sound well informed about opium.

I am the cultivation Masta.... lol I've grown it but cannabis is my drug of choice. I really don't enjoy walking around with an opium haze and a 4 day boner. HA

[del...]

try it and see...once the pod gets milked it shrivels and dies off. only way to get seed is leave the pods untouched.

btw, this is only a novelty kind of thing and unless one plants acres and acres of the stuff all you'll have is a few grams at any one time, at most. but the flowers are nice and for a couple weeks you'll have plenty of color as long as you mix your strains (there are far more than one p. somnif's).

[Brittoker]

I really don't enjoy walking around with an opium haze and a 4 day boner. HA

Lmao

[Nochowderforyou]

I am the cultivation Masta...

Oh Master Trichome, I have a question for the wise and wisdom. :)

It's a simple question about harvesting. I've heard, that picking off the fan leaves, like, a week before harvest, speeds up the flushing process...is this true?

I ask because I am nearing a little cut down here in about 7days. I have flushed very heavily 3 times now, you think that's enough to get all that fert out of there?

[Syrus]

Oh and if anyone starts winging on how this is cannabis.com not opium.com i swear im gonna break into there house, steal there modem and bitchslap them.

[Nochowderforyou]

Isn't this site called Cannabis.com, not opium.com/ Sheesh! ;)

[Trichome Creator]

Oh Master Trichome, I have a question for the wise and wisdom. :)

It's a simple question about harvesting. I've heard, that picking off the fan leaves, like, a week before harvest, speeds up the flushing process...is this true?

I ask because I am nearing a little cut down here in about 7days. I have flushed very heavily 3 times now, you think that's enough to get all that fert out of there?

I personally would never cut the compound leaves off. For the last 2 or 3 days I deprive my plants of water and use a nutrient flush.

[Trichome Creator]

try it and see...once the pod gets milked it shrivels and dies off. only way to get seed is leave the pods untouched.

btw, this is only a novelty kind of thing and unless one plants acres and acres of the stuff all you'll have is a few grams at any one time, at most. but the flowers are nice and for a couple weeks you'll have plenty of color as long as you mix your strains (there are far more than one p. somnif's).

After lancing, the drained poppy pods dry up, and are harvested for the seeds

[RastaKaze]

I am the cultivation Masta....
oh yea? just look at the phrase below my username lol

[Cooler Then Jesus]

so yeah, thanks for the site del... i am buying some Thai Opium White Poppy Seeds - 3 grams so like 3500 seeds. think people we could start a revolution with opium growing EVERY where. but they would have "anti opium" plant killer squads...unlesswe armed them with a stoner army. and no, its not like Counter Strike.

[flamingskullballs]

i would actually enjoy growing poppy

[Cooler Then Jesus]

oh yeah, and...
BURRRRRRNED!!!
INCINERATION!!!
YOU ARE THE INSULT MASTER!!!

[dopesmoker]

i would actually enjoy growing poppy


same, nice flowers on them

[Cooler Then Jesus]

okay i cancelled my order and intead bought the 4500 (3grm) pack of afghani speacial seeds.

[Brittoker]

I've ordered some seeds aswell.

[esrabalamir]

here's where i get my supplies. they also sell dried pods with seeds inside...well, just go see...

http://www.izmirpoppy.com/
yes, it is turkish firm in canada.the oppium is a very famous plant here, it's turkish name is "afyon" and also there is a big city named afyon here, there are tons of great opy gardens
i was hear that for example the turkish government gives 1000 opy seeds to farmers but they want 1000 opy plants end of the season. yea,it is legal but under the cop or gendarme control.(for medical area) also dry opy flowers are big ornament in turkish houses (mostly)they believe that "opy plants gives you more luck in the houses...it is a funny unreasoning belief :)

[Az.]

HOLY MOLY!

that is one big poppy pod!!!

cheers for the links del and trich....very useful :)

[jfoster]

are there any health risks with opium?

[Trichome Creator]

are there any health risks with opium?

Oh god!

[endo..jay]

are there any health risks with opium?
its addictive

[dopesmoker]

opium is super addictive....morphene and heroin is made out of opium

[endo..jay]

and codine

[jbuckets]

hmmmm...contemplating turning the back room of my basement into a middle-eastern style opium den :D

[endo..jay]

and since your in jerzey ill be joining you

[dopesmoker]

hmmmm...contemplating turning the back room of my basement into a middle-eastern style opium den :D

now that would truly be amazing

[Syrus]

opium is verry addictive, but mild compared to codene, morphine and heroin. so if you can handle addictino well, go for it, if not, be carefull.

[jfoster]

well, i knew it was addicting, but is there anything besides that?

[Rarrr]

Good links there, wouldn't mind trying opium. Might just order meself some seeds :).
Although the yeild isn't very high, as long as it keeps me content then I'm happy. I'm not looking to sell anyway.

[Cooler Then Jesus]

you think if i plant all 4500 seeds in this big space of land i have, i could get a pretty sizeable amount? im thinking of just aerating my front lawn and scattering them all over. that would be fun! hehe.

[harmonicminor]

yeah rip your lawn right out and sod it and you can. here is a pic of a few I grew last summer. I didn't harvest any o and I dont think it would be worth it unless you had tons and tons of them growing. I bought a seed pack of 10,000 with 10 varieties including gigantheums wich I have yet to find and grow out of my seed pack. They are easy as hell to grow though and they have high germination rates.

[harmonicminor]

also the seeds are tiny so if you mix them with sand and then spread that they wont be as close together when they sprout

[harmonicminor]

veg and flower light cycles are reversed for poppies too :D

[Cooler Then Jesus]

veg and flower? please explain the difference? im sure flower means for it to grow pedals but whats "veg"

[harmonicminor]

vegatative growth stage. This happens after the seedling stage and with poppy plants it is sometimes called the lettuce stage because it looks just like lettuce growing. This stage is 12 hours on and 12 off for your lighting. Flowering stage happens when you put the light on 24/0.

[GanjaBob]

okay so after you cut the pod open and try the black paste is it ready to consume or does it need further treating, and where does red opium come from

[harmonicminor]

yes but it can be washed first too. And red rock opium if that's what you mean is incense at your local head shop. It comes from the berry of some other plant and has nothing to do with opium. I have seen it going around and tried some but the stuff just melted down into the bowl so I got rid of that shit due to the fear of what it does to your lungs.

[OzzyOz]

the most famous opium is "black-Tar"

i may buy a pack, plant em... who knows?


What are yields like??? and how much is a single dose of opium?

[keinmehrkreig]

Its not to hard..if the chinese can do it..anyone can! ahahahaha jk...

[OzzyOz]

hey dude
the chinese can do oragami, and i can't do that shit

!!

any particular strain of Opium Poppy that's the best ( turkish maybe??? should i go with that??? )

[dopesmoker]

the chinese do alot of things i have no hope of doing......6 year old kids make shoes....i wont be able to do that in my lifetime

[Cooler Then Jesus]

what time of year should i plant for the biggest yeild? i am thinking earaly march/late february. they are supposed to finish in like 55 days. according to the website afghani speacial plants are ready to slice at 55 days. (estimation)

[dopesmoker]

probably after the last frost of spring

[Syrus]

when they bud? :confused:


that would seem like the logical time to me

[GanjaBob]

yes but it can be washed first too. And red rock opium if that's what you mean is incense at your local head shop. It comes from the berry of some other plant and has nothing to do with opium. I have seen it going around and tried some but the stuff just melted down into the bowl so I got rid of that shit due to the fear of what it does to your lungs.
How do u wash it?

[dopesmoker]

putting it in water hot water...like on the stove in a pot.....gets rid of the excess plant material and makes a more pure smoke

[GanjaBob]

cool thanks

[Brittoker]

my seeds are on there way,

[Nochowderforyou]

Interesting thread :thumbsup: I came in clueless about opium, and now I could, grow it, if I wanted too :cool:

[xNoa]

yeh innit, this thread has inspired me lol and made me really want to try it, i will most definately be purchasing some seeds, i take it i should be planting them the same time roughly as i would weed?(UK) and is it even worth doing 10-15 or so? id be alright with a few grams, just to try it at least.

[dopesmoker]

a first time smoker of opium usually only requires a piece the size of a matchstick head or a little more

[RastaKaze]

Ahahaha you can bet every person who posted in this thread is going to become an opium head, lmao, I mean it's fun every once in a while but the shit is ADDICTIVE like crack you've been warned.

[xNoa]

Ahahaha you can bet every person who posted in this thread is going to become an opium head, lmao, I mean it's fun every once in a while but the shit is ADDICTIVE like crack you've been warned.
hm but its not as dangerous as crack, and im pretty sure its not as addictive or at least not in the same way, if i grow a bit its not exactly going to last forever is it once its gone its gone till next season if i decide to grow more

[RastaKaze]

Ooooohhh no, trust me, it is equally if not MORE addictive then crack. Who the fuck wants to smoke rock anyway? Opiums the baby-cousin to heroin my man... and I think we all know how evil that shit is.

[Euphoric]

Ahahaha you can bet every person who posted in this thread is going to become an opium head,.

yea count me in on that one :stoned:

thnx for the info u evil people<3

[Brittoker]

Oops, shit look what I've started, lol.

[Syrus]

Ooooohhh no, trust me, it is equally if not MORE addictive then crack. Who the fuck wants to smoke rock anyway? Opiums the baby-cousin to heroin my man... and I think we all know how evil that shit is.
I dotn even know where to start with whast wrong with that comment.




So ill jsut say, your wrong, trust me.

[RastaKaze]

LOL funny as it is, you're wrong my friend :)

Perhaps you are so contradicted by your own addiction that you feel the need to portray it to others as a safe, productive habit? I don't know, but trust me, you are wrong.

[Rarrr]

What is the sort of yield for each standard pod and how much you need to get the desired affect?

[harmonicminor]

It is highly illegal to cut the pods but......
some people chomp on a dozen or so pods even before they flower .
you can also make tea with the ripe pods......
there is more alkaloid content in the young plants roots......
even the seeds alone can work

[harmonicminor]

much less chance of getting in trouble that way and you still get the effects and you can fill your yard with plants and get more yields without having cut pods for all to see
just dont get to smoke that way unless...
you do an extraction

[Brittoker]

You only get a miniscule amount from each pod, like the size of a match head.

[xNoa]

LOL funny as it is, you're wrong my friend :)

Perhaps you are so contradicted by your own addiction that you feel the need to portray it to others as a safe, productive habit? I don't know, but trust me, you are wrong.
i think youre wrong mate, yes it is addictive but u know its not one toke and youre on it for life exactly is it, thats just stupid, not even heroin or any drug is like that(although it does depend on personalitys, i know personally im fine)
and like has been said, the amount that you will get unless youre growing a couple of acres over in afghanistan or something is fuck all!! its not exactly a street drug either so even if you were that desperate to get some more itd be hard to find.

[lemonboy]

More addictive than crack? I make opium tea out of various plant parts on special occasions. It lasts about 6 hours and when it wears off I don't crave more or experience any withdrawals whatsoever. They say if you do opium more than 3 times a week you're an addict and I can see how the physical aspects of addiction would start to take hold at this point. One or two experiences, or many over long periods of time, isn't going to be enough to pull you in. Like someone has said already, the availability alone prohibits most of these problems from even starting.

You've got way more people abusing oxycodone than the defenseless little opium poppy.

[harmonicminor]

xnoa and lemonboy are right
I didn't even get enough for a buzz off of 6 plants
I did heroin once a few years ago and no addiction
I did liquid morphine over 10 years ago and hated it

[RastaKaze]

Yup that's why I only do a few plants every season harmonic. You can bet if opium was available year round these people would be feinding for it all the time... And I didn't really mean It was MORE addictive then crack, but the stuff is pretty fucking addictive so I was just tellin' people to watch out... I guess it's wrong of me to worry about the well being of my fellow CANN.COM members. I'll try not to anymore :p

[Cooler Then Jesus]

so, rastakaze i sent you an E-mail. im planning on try to germinate as many as i can from the 4500 i bought. all of them are THE SAME strain afghani speacial from izmr.

[Euphoric]

apparently they start germinating very quickly and like florescent lights;)

[Az.]

when do you reckon you should plant them in the uk?

i read that they flower in noverber here??

anyone know???

[Brittoker]

when do you reckon you should plant them in the uk?

i read that they flower in noverber here??

anyone know???

I'm planting mine in May, idk what time they flower at, but I know when to harvest them, when the petals fall off and the pod is unripe.:rasta: :thumbsup:

[endo..jay]

apparently they start germinating very quickly and like florescent lights;)

yes florescent lights are best for the indoor grow cuz they are cool and you can put them a few inches from your plants

If using fertilizer a 5-20-5 can be used prior to flowering but is not really needed.

[Brittoker]

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