View Full Version : Put weed on wounds?
moeburn
01-01-2006, 11:41 PM
Someone once told me that baseball players used to chew on tobacco mixed with fiberglass, the glass making small pores in the cheeks allowing the chewing tobacco to flow into the bloodstream faster.
I don't know if anyone has ever tried weed intravenously, but has anyone tried the above method, or just simply sticking weed in their bandaid when they cut themselves?
VoidLivesOn
01-01-2006, 11:42 PM
Yeah I do it all the time.
Das Boot
01-01-2006, 11:48 PM
I thought they still did put trace amounts of fiberglass in chewing tobacco. Perhaps I'm mistaken.
Powder Puff
01-02-2006, 12:11 AM
You won't get the same high out of weed, if you just chew it without cooking it first... It's a humungus waste of weed!
The THC needs to be warm, as to work, or something..!:)
Nochowderforyou
01-02-2006, 12:16 AM
My question is....why?
moeburn
01-02-2006, 12:29 AM
You won't get the same high out of weed, if you just chew it without cooking it first... It's a humungus waste of weed!
The THC needs to be warm, as to work, or something..!:)
no...... I really think that was called out as a myth on erowid and these forums a few times...
What could heat possibly do to THC or the other active ingredients other than this mysterious word "activate" that people seem to throw around?
Heat will definately break down the chemicals so they are smaller and are able to fit in the pores of your mouth, stomach and lungs easier. But heating, then cooling, and expecting it to make a difference in consumption? I dont think so.
Why? For me, I'd like to know if I can get a decent high while I am unable to smoke or bake a delicious recipe.
Tmar.aLL.DaYmar
01-02-2006, 12:34 AM
I don't know if anyone has ever tried weed intravenously, but has anyone tried the above method, or just simply sticking weed in their bandaid when they cut themselves?
or what about blending it up with some mayo and injecting it into your eye?
i doubt putting it in a bandaid would do anything, theres no way for the thc to get out of the weed and into your blood. besides, the wound would clot stopping flow to the weed anyway.
FunkyMonkey
01-02-2006, 12:54 AM
or what about blending it up with some mayo and injecting it into your eye?
Man that made me laugh my half chewed apple onto the screen! :thumbsup:
Powder Puff
01-02-2006, 01:12 AM
no...... I really think that was called out as a myth on erowid and these forums a few times...
What could heat possibly do to THC or the other active ingredients other than this mysterious word "activate" that people seem to throw around?
Heat will definately break down the chemicals so they are smaller and are able to fit in the pores of your mouth, stomach and lungs easier. But heating, then cooling, and expecting it to make a difference in consumption? I dont think so.
Why? For me, I'd like to know if I can get a decent high while I am unable to smoke or bake a delicious recipe.
It needs to be activated, or something..!:)
VoidLivesOn
01-02-2006, 01:31 AM
Man that made me laugh my half chewed apple onto the screen! :thumbsup:
I probably just laughed harder.
ibreakthings
01-02-2006, 02:11 AM
no...... I really think that was called out as a myth on erowid and these forums a few times...
What could heat possibly do to THC or the other active ingredients other than this mysterious word "activate" that people seem to throw around?
Heat will definately break down the chemicals so they are smaller and are able to fit in the pores of your mouth, stomach and lungs easier. But heating, then cooling, and expecting it to make a difference in consumption? I dont think so.
Why? For me, I'd like to know if I can get a decent high while I am unable to smoke or bake a delicious recipe.
are you high? Its a known fact that the THC is not active until heated. Thats why people smoke it. and bake it. If you could just eat it plain, why the hell would people smoke it? Heat makes it so the THC boils and then can bind with fat cells or go into your lungs. Without heat, the THC will not be active and will not cause any effect.
moeburn
01-02-2006, 02:33 AM
are you high? Its a known fact that the THC is not active until heated. Thats why people smoke it. and bake it. If you could just eat it plain, why the hell would people smoke it? Heat makes it so the THC boils and then can bind with fat cells or go into your lungs. Without heat, the THC will not be active and will not cause any effect.
I'm sorry it had to come to this, then:
Eating
It is a myth that dried marijuana must be heated before being consumed to activate the cannabanoids. Many people find that raw cannabis leaves and buds can be eaten for strong effects without any pre-heating. It is a common belief that heating the cannabis before ingestion increases its potency and cooking extractions using food oils (such as butter or olive oil) are the most common methods for making cannabis-based foods.[Section Edited by Erowid Feb 19, 2002]
http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_faq_consumption.shtml#eatdrink
The only thing heat can really do is get you excited because you think the heat is going to make it work better, thus you end up believing you are higher. Whatever floats your boat.
What heat REALLY does, it boils the chemicals (apparently THC refers to ALL the things in weed that makes you high...). Remember back to old chemistry class, the little diagrams of molecules getting excited when they were in gas state? They were really far apart. When things get hot, the molecules seperate.
So you wouldn't have a big lump of THC molecules, because that wouldn't fit into the pores in your lungs, you'd have little tiny individual THC molecules spread out over a large surface. Of course, that only makes sense if you inhale the smoke WHILE ITS HOT.
If you heat up weed and then cool it down, you may as well be having sex with it.
And why the hell would people smoke it? Because its faster, duh.
Nullific
01-02-2006, 02:56 AM
Actually, the heat causes a chemical process known as decarboxylization to occur. This is supposed to convert cannabinoids in the bud to a form which is more psychoactive. If you ate enough raw uncooked bud however you'd still get high.
It is also supposed to be baked in something with a high fat content because THC is not water soluble and is supposedly abosrbed better by the GI-tract when dissolved in oils.
Because cannabinoids such as THC are not very water soluble cannabis cannot be efficiently chewed for effect, it also cannot be injected. In order to inject THC you would need a very high purity extract and solution of hydroxypropyl-beta-cyclodextrin with .1% hydroxypropylmethylcellulose.
Powder Puff
01-02-2006, 03:22 AM
You have to eat more RAW weed, than you need to eat precocked weed!:)
Simple as that.. Can we let this go now? :)
sharpezor
01-02-2006, 03:47 AM
things in history dont get done if people didnt ask questions like these but DAMN!
moeburn
01-02-2006, 03:50 AM
Actually, the heat causes a chemical process known as decarboxylization to occur. This is supposed to convert cannabinoids in the bud to a form which is more psychoactive. If you ate enough raw uncooked bud however you'd still get high.
It is also supposed to be baked in something with a high fat content because THC is not water soluble and is supposedly abosrbed better by the GI-tract when dissolved in oils.
Because cannabinoids such as THC are not very water soluble cannabis cannot be efficiently chewed for effect, it also cannot be injected. In order to inject THC you would need a very high purity extract and solution of hydroxypropyl-beta-cyclodextrin with .1% hydroxypropylmethylcellulose.
De...carb..oxy... sounds alot like combustion, aka, setting something on fire and using oxygen to combust carbon.
But what form is this which is more psychoactive, other than the psychoactive form of the user thinking that it makes it stronger?
And you say that THC isn't water soluable... makes sense... its fat soluable...wait, are you saying that I'm 100% water?
Are you saying I'm skinny?!
BRING IT ON, PUNK!
sharpezor
01-02-2006, 03:51 AM
wow enough with the science n' math n shit lol
putting it on wounds wont do anything becuase the weed disperces through your body evenly. unless you somehow inject an ounce on your cut nothing will happen lol
just smoke it.
lemonboy
01-02-2006, 04:40 AM
I read an interesting article about Jesus and holy anointing oil. Something about cannabis as a main ingredient causing anointed areas (like wounds) to be relieved of pain as if a portion of the body was "getting high". It was a really great read that I don't seem to have bookmarked. I'll do some searching and bump this thread accordingly.
sharpezor
01-02-2006, 04:41 AM
Yes please i am very VERY interested.
lemonboy
01-02-2006, 06:32 PM
"The anointing oil used by Jesus and his disciples (http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,869273,00.html) contained an ingredient called kaneh-bosem which has since been identified as cannabis extract, according to an article by Chris Bennett in the drugs magazine, High Times, entitled Was Jesus a Stoner? The incense used by Jesus in ceremonies also contained a cannabis extract, suggests Mr Bennett, who quotes scholars to back his claims."
There seem to be many articles (http://www.google.com/search?hs=tiT&hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=jesus+cannabis+oil&btnG=Search) on this subject.
moeburn
01-03-2006, 03:03 AM
"The anointing oil used by Jesus and his disciples (http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,869273,00.html) contained an ingredient called kaneh-bosem which has since been identified as cannabis extract, according to an article by Chris Bennett in the drugs magazine, High Times, entitled Was Jesus a Stoner? The incense used by Jesus in ceremonies also contained a cannabis extract, suggests Mr Bennett, who quotes scholars to back his claims."
There seem to be many articles (http://www.google.com/search?hs=tiT&hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=jesus+cannabis+oil&btnG=Search) on this subject.
It would be really interesting if it was discovered by someone who wasn't a writer for a drug magazine called "High Times".
:P
Green Screen
01-03-2006, 03:09 AM
I also heard that you can put the chewing tobbaco in between your toes to get the same effect, because the skin there is so porous.
Nullific
01-03-2006, 05:38 PM
Nicotine is water soluble, effects can be experienced by chewing it and tobacco harvesters can even get sick from handling wet leaf due to nicotine entering the body transdermally.
AFAIK the THC found naturally in cannabis is a carboxylic acid, in this form it is inactive. Over time (by curing) or by heating it is decarboxylated into its more potent form.
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