Sex, This will open your eyes

[Ganjasaurusrex]

When it comes to sex if you can move her on:

an Instinctive level,
an Emotional level,
and a Phycological level,

It makes a world of difference than just going through the motions alone.

She has to see you as sexually valuable, (you control that).
She has to be in the right state of mind, (you help her get there).
She has to be in the right environment, (The easiest thing for you to do).

You can GAIN or LOSE sexual value. In other words, you can increase and decrease (intentionally or unintentionally) your ability to sexually inspire women. Regardless of looks, certain guys will be able to sexually inspire women much better than most guys. THEY DO THE RIGHT THINGS.

If your partner is not turned on properly SHE IS NOT HAVING SEX.

Never, ever GUILT or PRESSURE a woman into sex. Consider yourself warned.
guilt induced tactics-sexual begging or complaining annoys her deep down. If she does have sex it will be worse with each passing minute.

She may go along with this, even for some time but it can SECRETLY eat at woman and they will NEVER TELL YOU WHAT THE PROBLEM IS.

She will never consider this really good sex even though you might be satisfied.

Some women can go years in a relationship and never have really good sex in the way she considers good sex to be. Some men can go a year or more and not have sex at all in a relationship, not so easy to walk when your in a LTR or married, now there is more at stake.

It is no mystery why "good wives"/girl friends cheat! Some husbands/boyfriends actually have the balls to get mad at this woman when she finally carries it out to the third stage.

He has no right to be pissed at her when she finally decides to experience her natural urges to have sex...........(with another man). A mans worst fear.

Dont fool yourself into thinking that just because she has a diamond ring on her finger and there was an expensive wedding that she wont start looking at other men eventually who push those sexual buttons.

Women can be extremely loyal, they tend to be by nature, but when she cheats, she will justify it. Every single woman has a "speach" about how wrong they think cheating is and how they cant understand how other women cheat.

This is why a woman in a relationship can LOVE you, be AROUSED, while YOUR AROUSED and wish that you would just go take care of your own needs.

Doesnt make sense does it?

This is also the basis for sexual rejection in a relationship and a cause of resentment.

A guy that gets sexually rejected 3 times or so will most likely will quit trying when he didnt understand the proper approach.

Much like a woman who gets emotionally rejected 3 times or so when she just wants to talk. They are different, yet on equivelent levels of importance to each.

You see how this one thing can kill a relationship? This doesnt require 4 months of expensive marriage consuling to resolve or arguing about unrelated things. That is a recipe for disaster anyway by spilling negatives that hide the real problem. Spilling negatives will doom the relationship.

Some men might come to the conclusion that women just dont like sex as much as men or she has a libido problem. Wrong.

Women love sex just as much as men do but the APPROACH is KEY.


I will change the topic here.
Concerning foreplay for example.

Women's conversation styles are alot like the way they enjoy foreplay.

Men tend to talk OBJECTIVELY, (make points), women tend to talk SUBJECTIVELY, (talk about different subjects and circle around not reaching a point).

The way she likes foreplay is the same as her conversation style, for most, to circle around her entire body, touching, taking your time and NOT to get to the point right away. Remember erogenous zones.

The lightest touch is best, long glides that break and pick up elsewhere with light kissing on her body. Stay away from the obvious areas, (vagina), as you are building the excitement through teasing.

A womans skin is 3 times more sensitive than a mans and this is important to remember about foreplay.

When it comes to oral sex it cant be fair to ask a woman to do something on you that you wouldnt do in return. A lot of women cant orgasm on penetration alone. Its better to spend time in the foreplay/oral sex department before moving ahead with sex.

A good thing to try is to use a Hall's mentholyptus, crunch it up in your mouth and then spread that on her vulva, lips and clitoris with the tongue, she'll like the menthol sensation at the same time. Since most of her nerve endings are on the outside not the inside it makes sense to spend a good deal of time on the outside first.

Theres alot more to be said on this topic of building your sexual value and stimulating her on the three levels.


Good day Gentlemen.

[hank]

You are just wierd man, you talk like you are just so fucking dumb and shit man it gets on my fucking nerves

who asked you? Seriously...

[GanjaASD847]

interesting... :stoned:

[friendowl]

the halls thing sounds crazy.gonna try that

[Ganjasaurusrex]

Halls mentholyptus, the black pack to be exact.

[Ganj]

the question here is, what are "the right things"?

[Ganjasaurusrex]

Ill continue to throw up threads to tell you. A lot was presented here as far as the right things/wrong things. Review past 8 threads as well, "Dating"

Just take an objective look and decide for yourself. Some of this goes against the grain of what you might have been taught or misled to believe or by exposing the grey areas which add to confusion.

When you dont understand something its easy to get frustrated which leads to anger, or withdrawl.

Ill protect your heart and help you succeed. Or you can say Ganjasaurus your full of crap and throw all this out the window.

[P.E.N.G.U.I.N.]

I want to hear more of this :stoned:

[BizzleLuvin]

i agree with a lot of points made. but youre making it sound as if women are fickle, impossible to please, and overly conplex. like sex for them is a jigsaw puzzle that the woman is incapable of putting together on her own. i think that women should first learn how to please themselves and learn to be proud of thier sexuality befoer they ask a man to do it for them. and often the double standard prevents and scares women from exploring sex, thier bodies, thier wants, and thier senses. remember that womena re highly sexual creatures too, and that there are so many different types of sex in thier minds.

[powair]

I agree with the above post. I am a girl and I don't feel anything at all like your patronization.

Who made you an expert? Because they were obviously wrong.

[Ganjasaurusrex]

Well if Im wrong you write the next thread on the subject and make it right.

And while your writing have your Dad make you some cookies and milk.

[powair]

I will. Cookies and milk sounds excellent.

[mellow mood]

this thread sucks

[retsiger]

Hey Rachel, I like cookies and milk too. And I know how too make love to a woman without the use of a textbook. You coming over? Bring the cookies, I've got the milk. x x x x x

[Kid Dynamite]

hey ganjasaurusrex...


if you know all of this then why are you typing huge threads on the internet instead of out getting lucky with pornstars in a hot tub?

[beachguy in thongs]

I couldn't get my eyes open enough to read that thing.

[Green Love]

I like the piece you wrote Ganjasaurusex. Well said. It all depends on what your women is into. Maybe, she likes it slow, fast or rough. Those are the signs you have 2 pick up on and not just go for gold.

GL

[ADaisyChain]

Also:

When you are lying in bed with a woman, whistle softly, click your tongue three times (keep the timing in between each click constant! This is important, it tells the woman you are a stable person), and finally genty run your hand down an extra sensitive area just right of the solar plexus.

This is like a secret code that if you use I can offer you a 100% get laid success.

Or just be yourself and don't try and choreograph a relationship based on stuff you read on the internet. Women are perceptive, trying too hard usually gets noticed.

[Ganjasaurusrex]

"Just be Yourself", The stock answer you give someone when you dont have a clue.
And when it doesnt work out................."I guess it wasnt meant to be", the stock answer when "Just be yourself" doesnt work for the person you gave it to. Brilliant.

Ill write a page on "just be yourself". I think women invented this line and brainwashed men with it to keep themselves more dominate in relationships.

Guys avoid the "Just be yourself" AT ALL COSTS.

Daisy Chain are you a man or a woman? If your a man just put on a dress grow your hair long and drop kick the entire male gender in the balls all at once.

"Just be yourself" why dont you tell men to change their name to "Doormat".

[ADaisyChain]

-laughs- Only doormat if you natural personality style is doormat. If that is your natural style, maybe its time for a bit of a change?

Don't be yourself and put on some elaborate bullshit routine of special touching and magic words, it might get you somewhere, but only because the girl is flattered you care enough to be someone completely different for her.

You're right about one thing though, just being yourself won't get you all the chicks you could ever want. Especially if yourself is someone that isn't societally perfect. But, the chicks you have to fake it for, you don't really want in the long run. You can't spend your whole life faking it for someone who doesn't like the real you, eventually you have to end the relationship that doesn't have YOU in it, but a character you created. And that's a really painful ordeal in my experience, generally not worth it unless you were just in it for a lay and a leave.

If you just want to fuck some girls at night clubs, by all means, don't be yourself. No girl wants to know they're the disposable night club one night stand that they are. Your elaborate faking real routines will probably confuse them into believing the possibility that they are really special to you, long enough to get you laid anyway.

[endo..jay]

maybe if more guys listend to women they would know how to pleas them its not fuckin rocket science...i can please my woman without the help of some text book you know why cuz i listen to her...listen to her in bed she wont tel you directly what she wants cuz if she has to you should be a monk or something...but listen to her moans is she moans then keep doing it look at her face her facial expressions will tell you alot...but nothing will tell you more than her eyes i can tell everything about a woman by her eyes just ask her....im sure she will chime in sometime on this topic...if not i will make her...i am in no way gods gift to women i still have alot to learn but i know alot most of my friends are women and all you have to do guys is listen!

[Ganjasaurusrex]

Who are you to give advice "5 minute man"

[ADaisyChain]

-laughs- Good comeback.

[Ganjasaurusrex]

Retsiger knows how to make love without text.

He'll probably wash and wax your car, clean your apartment, and then buy you flowers and tell you he loves you.

[Ganjasaurusrex]

Endo, casual sex is one thing, relationship sex is entirely different.

But I respect your opinion you bring up good points on eyes. Bottom line her actions and avoid her "changing colors".

If you dont know how a woman tests you, uses womanese, changes colors and many more things you arent going to last in a relationship.

Listening to what women want from you can get you in trouble sometimes. They can run a confusion game on you on purpose and you wont know which end is up.

so listen, sure, be cautious, bottom line actions............always.

[endo..jay]

no my points apply to casual and relationships...and women arent that confusing, most men dont understand them thats why they say they are confusing

[BabyFacedAbortion]

Are women REALLY that evil and hard to figure out?

I don't think i'm insanely confusing or do subliminal things..

we're not jigsaw puzzles, fellas.

[Garden Knowm]

hey baby face, you don't think your signature on MSn is manipulative and subliminal..

?

I love you and your baby face

[Garden Knowm]

or bizzle saying "only men who are good at eating pussy like eating pussy, the guys who are bad at eating pussy don't like it" .. (paraphrased)

now that's fucking manipulative..

hahah

i love you - very very very manipulative

[endo..jay]

no babe women arent that confusing just some ppl have trouble understanding you all they over complicate women...i just look into your eyes and i know everything



or bizzle saying "only men who are good at eating pussy like eating pussy, the guys who are bad at eating pussy don't like it" .. (paraphrased)
i love to lick pussy

[BabyFacedAbortion]

i just look into your eyes and i know everything


It kind of scares me lol


What's my MSN sig?

[Ganjasaurusrex]

Women are by no means "evil".

"In all my 30 years of research on the human female I still have yet to find out what women want"-------Sigmund Freud.

We're almost there sig.

We just need to figure out how to get the male ego to follow directions and listen to advice on approaching romantic relationships! lol

[endo..jay]

maybe freud got nowhere cuz he was loking at women as 'research' women arent lab rats they are human just like us they just have a different way of looking at things and once you can find that you are set

[Ganjasaurusrex]

agreed.

[BizzleLuvin]

hey maybe we should ask a woman.

[endo..jay]

thats true no one knows the female psyche better than a woman

[Schizferatu]

A womans skin is 3 times more sensitive than a mans and this is important to remember about foreplay.

enough said, this guy has read too many porn mags if he honestly believes this shit

[endo..jay]

yea that is complete bs

its not the whole skin its areas that have more nerve endings not the whole body ill give him that

[Ganjasaurusrex]

Totally disagreed with both of you on that> lol

[endo..jay]

well lets direct that to the women

women is it tru about youer skin being 3x more sensitive?

[BabyFacedAbortion]

Touching certian non-sexual areas on a female will send a sexual response to her body, but not anywhere; specific places

http://www.askmen.com/love/love_tip/32_love_tip.html


10. Inner Thighs
The inside of the thighs are highly sensitive to touching, stroking and licking. Just like the back of the knees, inner thighs also have many nerve endings, therefore when you fondle them, you will turn her on like crazy.

Remember not to bite because the area is very sensitive and doing so would only cause her mild pain, which will, in turn, cause you plenty of pain.

9. Behind the Knees
Because of all the nerve endings behind the knees, you'd be surprised at how crazy a woman can become when you gently lick or nibble on the back of her knees.

Be careful not to overdo it -- the area, after all, is very sensitive and you must be careful not to make the sensation annoying by getting too rough or tickling her too much.

8. Buttocks
Yes, it's true. Lots of women like it when you play around with their behinds. A lot of women like mild spanking and squeezing of the buttocks. But there's more...

Some women like having their butts licked, sucked and penetrated (with fingers, penis or both). For those who shudder at the thought of sticking their tongues out at Uranus , I'm sure that anal penetration, on the other hand, sounds quite inviting, huh?

7. Nape of the Neck
Just breathing on this part of her body will give her goose bumps all over. So just imagine her reaction when you use your tongue or teeth to get her aroused.

Use your hands too; lift her hair up gently as you bring your mouth closer to her neck. Then, as you sink your teeth into it, pull on her hair slightly so as to give that "I want you sooo bad" impression.

This part of a woman's body is also a good place to start giving her that sensual massage you are famous for and no woman can resist.

6. Ears
Many women enjoy having their ears licked, sucked or kissed. Although blowing in her ear is acceptable, it's not what women enjoy most. Besides the aforementioned things that they like having done to their ears, women like it when you whisper in their ears.

[Ganjasaurusrex]

I thought we were asking women not ASK MEN.com

[Ganjasaurusrex]

you mean to say if you dont agree with that simple statement, that a lumberjacks skin is identical to a model? I dont think so.

[Ganjasaurusrex]

Women have different sensitivites on the skin and obviously different thresholds to pain that is apparent.

[dogg]

Well put

[powair]

I think every woman is different, as is every man. People can't be generalized.

Personally, I love my ears licked inside.

[Ganjasaurusrex]

Hmmmmm. You could probably bribe me with some cookies. lol

Just messin with ya.

[endo..jay]

you mean to say if you dont agree with that simple statement, that a lumberjacks skin is identical to a model? I dont think so.
thats like compairing apples to oranges...a lumberjacks hand will be rough will Calluses and by doing manual labor you dont see super models swinging and ax do you? and you you think that a lumberjack will have the same skin as some paper pusher?


Women have different sensitivites on the skin and obviously different thresholds to pain that is apparent.
pain threshold is a mental factor. ever see those religons in..i dont remember where but they hang themselfs from big hooks and shit for fun? tell me you could do that?

women have the same nerve makeup as men. women arent special they still have the same abount of chromosones 23 paired chromosomes thats 46 total
you you are saying in the one pair of sex chromosomes wheter it be the X or the Y has an amazing property to make women have more sensitive skin and a confusing intelect?

[Garden Knowm]

hey maybe we should ask a woman.


do you know any?

[Ganjasaurusrex]

Endo Jay, lol
Whats the real reason you keep coming back on this issue?

I didnt make this stuff up.

Its a physiology 101. The chomosome that initiates at conception determines the hormone group that goes with that chomosome. That hormone, testosterone, the one most prevelent in males, determine MANY things such as COLLAGEN THICKNESS of the skin. Estrogen and Progestrogen in Females determine MANY things in the female such as softer skin.

If the collegen layers are thicker on the surface of the male above the nerve endings what does that tell you about sensitivites of the skin?


It is a physiological fact that men have thicker skin and can tollerate pain better yet women can tollerate temperature thresholds better due to that fact of fat and fat metabolism, this is an evolutionary development in order to ensure survival of the unborn child.

So whether you take a male paper pusher or lumberjack its not going to make a bit of difference. That is something that has occurred due to evolution and survival and there was an evolutionary reason for it. Men had to have thicker skin to hunt and provide and endure danger to the body.

There are huge physiological and phycological differences including the way we process emotions between men and women.

So it is an apples to oranges comparison just like I meant it to be.

Women's "confusing intellect" is more of socially learned form of a mate selection process, a friendly form of the mating game. Although I dont think it is confusing myself. A man being confident, Challenging and self controlling really do have primal origins.

Women are socially taught to test on these three things for a reason and that is to find the strongest mate phycologically. Things like jealosy,possesiveness and availability all have primal roots. I just wrote it in easy to understand language and described how it works. I didnt make it up.

Anyway Jay. This threads getting old. If you want the last word go for it. I respect you opinion what ever that may be.

[endo..jay]

yea it is but i am always up for a friendly debate but yea i never looked at that side of it with the whole evolution thing but yea lets kill this therad!

[Green Love]

Its all about style!

[SuperTorch]

No I don't think this thread is getting old. You really make a shit load of sinc but it seems you skip over items. In your very first post you say what things need to be done but give no examples. I have found that women get turned on by a guy who tells the truth no matter what it is. The truth is like a stone, it can't be moved and more importantly doesn't need to be change. I think women just wants to know their man they don't like beleaveing that they are being played or don't really know the truth. They don't/are affraid of being the last to know on something important. Thats why the phrase "Just Be Yourself "is so prevalent, its a sign of ones ablitlity to tell the truth and not hide inner issuses within as the result of social politics. For Instance I love to touch girls faces I like to pet them, I like to look them in the eyes deeply when I do I like it as much if not more than intercourse, theres nothing better than making a girl feel SAFE. I love it we I see trust in her eyes, I like it as much as sex if not more. I have one goal - up her self esteem, but some girls don't like/are scared of that.

[spliffstar22]

What??????? The only part of that i read was the oral sex part, and i don't do that.... I get brains all the time, and no girl asks me to go down, cause it won't happen, and they all know it won't happen ever... Even when i settle wit a wifey it's not gonna happen. All you gotta do when you're fucking is look your girl deep in the eyes (If you're fucking from the front), keep your eyes locked on her eyes, and most girls just get more horny from that alone

[SuperTorch]

All you gotta do when you're fucking is look your girl deep in the eyes (If you're fucking from the front),

lol....yea if your doing it doggie you can use like a handheld mirror, put it around in front and look her in the eyes. Seriously though all women like eye contact. As long as its soft eye contact and not that creepy hard eye contact than makes them think the guys balls are about to blow up.

[spliffstar22]

^^^LOL ya ya.... That'd be fuckin hilarious, beatin it doggy holdin a handheld mirror lol

[ganya landia]

the halls thing sounds crazy.gonna try thatprimo visneame gras p

[WeedFaerie420]

You are just wierd man, you talk like you are just so fucking dumb and shit man it gets on my fucking nerves

who asked you? Seriously...

I agree. ganjasaurus you need to go get laid and stop trying to be dr.phil. i've asked you before on other threads and never got a response... just what are your credentials hmm?

[shuggie86]

as a woman, i would just like to say....FINALLY!! someone really knows what it takes to please a woman!

trust me, we don't like being as difficult as we are, but to have a man take the time to work to bring us pleasure it means so much more than the orgasm itself..

[psychocat]

Reccomended reading :
Amazon.com: Encyclopedia of Unusual Sex Practices: Books: Brenda Love (http://www.amazon.com/Encyclopedia-Unusual-Practices-Brenda-Love/dp/1569800111)
Amazon.com: The Joy of Sex: Fully Revised & Completely Updated for the 21st Century: Books: Alex Comfort (http://www.amazon.com/Joy-Sex-Revised-Completely-Updated/dp/1400046149)
Kinsey Reports - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsey_Reports)

[ReUp]

I'm so lost. I thought I just needed to work the clit...