My brother ?

[LOC NAR1958]

I have just spent several hours on the phone with my younger brother. He gave me a 400 HPS that got me strated. I have given him things like computer , tools, you know brothers. He gave me a phototrons cause his ass was too sorry to figure it out. Now he wants them back or he will call the law and nark me out to get me busted. I got him a small drip system and he sold it to his neighbor and got me to get him another one. He says he helped me and I should of give him all the harvest on my 2 grows cause I owe him. Sorry my brother needs to be committed, he's gone off the deep end . I'm trying to decide if I should do something very bad or let it ride. Any way he will get his stuff back that's not problem. It just goes to show you can't even trust a brother. He never gave me anything but a light and a tron and he owns me. I will still stay up with things, but I must pack it up untill the strom is over. Thanks for all the help from everyone here. I have a wife and 12 year old son I can't lose. So I will leave you all with this just one of many thruths. SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO CUT OFF A FINGER TO SAVE A HAND, EVEN IF THAT FINGER IS A BROTHER. To him I am as dead and there is no going back, He even threatened my parents who help him with money alot. And all this when monster bitch is just ripe for harvest and he would of got a big sack. Now I'm going to fuckup the phyco fuckhead. (sorry for language)

[puff4twentynow]

Thats pretty fucked up of your bro. Sounds like he's taking advantage. My cousin wanted half of my first grow just because he let me use one of his lights. I told him he was freakin nuts, pointed out how much money i spent, not to mention time, and that all i could promise him was a fat sack. And for your bro to want not only your whole harvest of one grow, he's asking for two? Fucked up, isn't it?

Puff

[LOC NAR1958]

It's bad man he's gone wack on me. He found god and now he is god. But he gets stinking drunk every night and any thing else he can get his hands on, you know shit that burns holes in your brain. My mom and dad are afraid of him now cause he threatened them xmas day. I'm 47 I don't need this shit, we may have him committed. He will get all his stuff back. I cleaned almost all of mine up and moving to a friends, no choice. Monster bitch will get the axe in 2 days. She has at least 4 oz's on her and he would of got a fat sack, screw him now. He's pissed cause mine is better than anyhting he ever did, eats him up. I'm still in shock. There is no way he can get a warent out on me cause he says so. I'm old enough to have friends on the sharriff's and police. I keep to my self and they give me heads up in general. I have an older brother 6 years ahead of me that I have not talked to in over 20 years because he;s an asshole too. One brother 4 years older that can't smoke cause of job but he thinks it;s wild he never saw shit like this in the 60's and would die before he told any one and I can take it to the bank. Thanks for talking with me, I'm still in shock

[turtle420]

Damn dude...
That's brotherly love.
As to you giving him something, even if he gave you the lights and phototrons, you trully don't owe him jack shit.
The real problem is that the person that's between the sword and the wall is you, not him. That sucks.
If my brother threatened me with something like that I would sucker punch him so hard that he'd end up in 2006.
When I was going to start growing (this September), I was speaking with a very good friend of mine (like a brother), and he said that another friend of us would like to help me $-wise for sure. I thought; "Great! More money". But then I thought: "Turtle, FUCK THAT!!!".
It's a picky situation you're in, but dude, if there's anythind we can do, let us know. Not to worry, there's nothing bad that ever happens, but because of something good.

-turtle420 :cool:

[LOC NAR1958]

Thanks guy's , he just came got his light but he wouldn't get the tron cause you can see it in the back of his truck. He said I could keep it for the computer and I said it's going in the trash and he better clean his shit up cause I stayed up all night and I'm clean. Shoe on the other foot he wants to know if I'm going to call the law on him. LOL. LOL. I said I'm no nark and it pissed him off. He is my brother but he's a stranger gone over the edge, I will not talk to him again just scare him now and then. Guy's I'm not gone yet. Just going deeper under ground. Oh monster bitch will get it tomarrow night. My bro shot his mouth off too soon. Monster is hanging heavy with a good 4 oz's dried or more. She has fattened up the last week or so. So one last question should I give him his share ?

[turtle420]

So one last question should I give him his share ?
FUCK NO!!!

[J DOG 6000]

After all that...fuck him!
He put your family at risk!

[LOC NAR1958]

Thanks guy's that's what I think. LOL. I got a family here anyway

[Zandor]

dude it sounds like he is on something more then just weed.

Give his space and run as far from his as you can. There is a big crash coming very soon.

The best thing you can do for his is to part ways' and pick up the pieces later when he is ready for help.

[LOC NAR1958]

Your right Z. It's more than weed but it eats his ass I am successfull with indoor stuff and he is not. He and I were thight for years when we were younger. Unfortunitly there will never be a coming back toghether. I'm just running and I won't look back when I hear the cash. It's bad when you have to tell blood to never come to your house again and I mean for the rest of my life. It helps to talk thanks again guy's. Just remember I'm down but not out. I will take pic's of monster bitch before she goes. I told my bro every thing is gone but a light and a fan. so maybe he will leave me alone. I ask him what he was going to do with the light since he threatened me with calling the law and he asked if I would call on him. My reply was I'm no nark. 2 bro's gone for life and 1 left. What a word we live in, and he just found Jesus. I'd hate to see him paired up with the devil. Love to all.

[growinit]

"Give him his cut"????? Fuck No, I second (I mean why? he can't bust you now).

His spirit's been stolen by the powder, sad story but nothing you can do about it -- probably ever (1-way ticket). Just wait a short while, people on that channel have thier karma catch up to them amazingly fast, one way or the other.

Find a friend who needs help/knowledge/grow equipment/cash, and do a 50-50 split with them --- someplace where your narc brother won't know about.

'lot of people I know are havin' a hard time this year

[LOC NAR1958]

Thanks for the thoughts, I think we all agree. If I don't hear from him in about a week it will be over cause he wants to grow too. It's just a matter of him being around my parents that scares me now. I'm 47 and he was going to tell my mom on me. LOL to the max. My parents aren't stupid just as long as you keep it to yourself and don't hurt anyone. I called my parents and told them every thing. After all I'm a grown ass man. LOL. I will show them pic's of my grow. They have a few friends I might be able to help with some meds. I didn't see that coming but will do all I can. They say the G13 isn't getting it. life takes some funny turns. I lost my best friend last june to cancer, oh how I wish he were here. Thanks for the bit a sanity here. Any newbies out there if you want to do this kind of thing. DON'T tell a soul. It's hard not to want to brag but DON'T it will bring you down. I wish I had an Island that had me and fedex and that's all. LOL

[growinitgood]

Sorry Loc to hear about your fuckin bro. I had the same situation about 3 months ago. Except it was my vindictive fiance. She did call the cops! They came and I walked them right into my growroom. She thought I was illegal. I am a medicinal grower. She ended up getting arrested with meth on her person! "KARMA" it's a good thing! Just goes to show you who the fuck can you trust! Not even family! Money, Drugs, Greed, Power, it drives some people insane! Hang in there and keep us posted.

[growinitgood]

oh btw she also "found" God! God sure doesn't like growers! LOL!

[LOC NAR1958]

Insane is right dude. He gave me a 400HPS and I owe him everything for it . Now he thinks he is going to take it back home and use it. First he won't listen to any one. He doesn't care about PH or PPM's, and he kills everything inside. LOL. Oh the shoe is on the other foot now. I will scare him from time to time. Funny thing is he didn't become this sick twisted fucked up prick untill he found god. I hope Karma has a 747 cause me and Karma are going to fly it up his ass. His neighbor he sold a drip system to is now his bitch , he has to go over and get him high to calm him down. When we didn't know anything but swag I use to load him up all the times I had some. It most add up to pounds over the years. You can count the joints he gave me on one hand, but the drunken old buddy down the street from him got a big old hand full the one year out of ten he got some from out side. Yes Karma is going to kiss his ass with a red hot poker. I came completely clean with my parent. I'm 47 what are they going to do, send me to my room. LOL. he on the other hand Xmas threatened them and scared them because they came into 100 thousand and are helping family in need and I built them a 2 story garage with out the prick, He tried to cut my throat and get them to let him and a drunk buddy build it but they wouldn't let him. Pissed him off bad. Not much money left now but my old man is a Korean, Inchon china's froozen choosen and a 2 tour vietnan veteran. The man is my god. Sorry had to dry my eyes. He is why I live free today. Lord take care of the vet's please. Any way he thinks they are spending his money cause they should be dead by now. I was once the black sheep of the family. Now I am executor to there estate to divide it up as I see fit between 4 brothers. If they tell me to give it all to a cat foundation I will. They owe me nothing, all I want are my fathers medals and sword. My father personally knows 2 of the men putting the flag up at the sands of iwoa jeema (sorry for the spelling).His name is in the war movie as tech advisor because he could not re live it by being in the movie. His platoon was in the movie, filmed in California. Any way Karma and my other brother and my parents are going to have him committed to a mental hospital if he opens his mouth one more time. What strange turns life takes. I was the black sheep pot head and now I'm the only fair and reasonable pot head to look over things for them. I have never been arrested or in trouble and that impresses them. GOD BLESS THE VET"S OUT THERE!!!!! Can I get an AMEN.

[Zandor]

AMEN

[turtle420]

AMEN

[Gen]

Amen, sorry to hear about your woes loc. This is the place to bear your soul.
I went to the post office to send a registered letter to Amsterdam. When I told the guy behind the counter he got very fidgety. I thought uh oh I'm going to get busted. I thought for sure he knew what I was up to and would lose my money or get arrested. Nine days later I got a confirmaton from the seed company saying my order had been filled and they were sending the seeds. Was I in shock. I don't want to do have to go to the post office for a registered letter. Has anyone used a credit card to pay for seeds?

[LOC NAR1958]

Hi, GEN.
Thanks I think this is my new family. I have got seeds 2 times from DR.Chronics using my credit card. I know they say not a good idea but it has been months and no problems. They came in sthealth so I won't say how, in just over a week. I didn't have to sign for anything. They have a huge selection from many breeders. Nirvana is cheap and other like dutch passion can be expensive if you go for female seeds. So you have a big choice. I just finished up Cali orange bud females from dutch they cost me but worth it if you can't grow ,sex, and clone to make sure you have all females. I'm not out yet guy's. I got 4 northern lights clones, and to papaya clones from mother females going. And I cloned monster bitch so she will be back. Good news I think I scared my brother off when I told my parents. He's going wack on my uncle and cousin who started this whole mess. They live in a town not far from me where half the town and most of the law a relatives. They will put him in the dirt if he pushes too hard on them. Good old country boy's don't take no shit even off family. LOL

[Gen]

Thank you loc. Did you have the seeds sent to your house or PO box. Did you use your real name? I'll have to go the credit card route. I can't take another session at the Post Office. Someone said that just because the package is sent to your house with your name on it doesn't mean alot since anyone can mail you a package. So that by itself would be hard to use against someone.
My family is pretty freaked out about me growing.

[puff4twentynow]

AMEN Loc!!!!!!

Puff

[LOC NAR1958]

I used my real name as they want the name and address to match the card. No prob's from them just watch out for your brother. LOL. Thanks puff. Oh they were sent to the house. Yes any one can send you something. How about the anthrax mess. They change there sthealth around so it's not always the same look. Try and tell no one but if family knows, It's better and less of a chance to get caught than out on the streets. And you know what you got peeps put wierd stuff in smoke thinking it makes it better. My brother in law got some chronic with PCP sprayed on it for xmas and had to take his girl friend to the hospital. They tested her and found PCP and are now watching them as the law was called to the hospital.

[Gen]

What a bummer for your brother in law and girlfriend. I am telling no one about my grow, except you guys. Ok I have to tell my family since they live here. But I don't think they will turn me in. If I could just get some beans. It took 9 days to send the money registered mail and who knows how many days till it arrives. Counting now 12 days. I don't know any drug dealers. Nor do I want to either. What are some of the symptoms of PCP? Is she ok?

[Joel]

Gen, having a reliable drug dealer, one that does not lace your shit with other shit can be good, why dont you want to know one, bad experience or....lol?

[Gen]

I don't know anyone. How do you find a good one?