Commercial Grower/Virginal

[New Holland]

Read alot of postings and learnt some. But I want to run my first grow setup by you all and see if I'm doing anything wrong.

1. My Grow Room is 10ft x 5ft

2. I've bought 10 seeds of 3 different strains based on popularity and yield. No point growing something no one wants to buy, or plants that don't yield much. I'm interested in making $. 10 White Widow, 10 Purple Power, 10 Northern Lights (all feminised seeds)

3. Was going to use existing Fluro battens, but with what it would cost me for the 24 or so Fluro tubes cost me, I can buy 2 HID Lights. Should I go with MH or HPS?. I've read that HPS is reasonable for the whole process but MH produces better flowering/yield. Should I use 2 or 3 fluro to germinate, then Vegitate and flower under MH?. Moneys tight so for now I'm gonna use 2 400watt MH, then with the money I make from my first grow I'll invest into 2 HPS to supplement the 2 MH I will alreay have.

4. I'm going to line the walls with Panda film as I havn't been able to find anyone who sells Mylar on the net.

5. Should I germinate in smaller pots then transplant to larger pots?. Or just stick with one pot. What is a good soil mix?.

6. The Grow room is 7ft tall, can I vegitate my plants to 5-6ft to increase my yield?.

7. What Fert should I use?

8. With 30 plants in a 10x5 room, how much air flow will I need?. I already have one off those bathroom exhaust fans, I was going to buy another. One as an inlet, the other as exhaust. How many cubic ft/m should I aim for?. How much heat will 2 400 wat HID produce?, ambient temp at the moment is around 21-28 Celcius. The grow room is shaded so stays cool, but with HID in there the temp may rise and I may need more fans to vent the heat and keep the room cool?. I need to keep what ever fans I use quiet as my grow room is a shed that is right next to my neighbours fence. Was going to use light dimmer swtches to slow the fans down a little.

9. Going to build Activated Carbon Scrubbers from a design that I found on here that uses a plastic clothes basket, a Doona and Carbon pellets.

10. Million dollor question, How much money would I make if my grow is succesfull?. The reason I ask, is that I have a few acres of land. I was going to dig a hole on it and drop a shipping container it and cover it up :twocents: :twocents: to use as an under ground grow room. Is this a viable investment?.

[Trichome Creator]

It is impossible to determine what your final yield will be as there are too many factors to put into equation. Light,Nutrients, Nutrient Supplements, Soil or Hydro, Lighting Used, strains grown. etc etc.

[dboy]

1) Nice!

2) Nice!

3) Number of lights for germination/seedling is gonna depend on how many plants. Are you going to do one strain at a time? Your plan to start with the MH and then later get HPS sounds fine to me

4) search eBay, using "mylar reflective" as your search term

5) smaller pots, then move up as plant grows

6) don't veg that long dude! I'd say switch to 12/12 at 4ft, but will still be close. You'll get that figured out once you have a feel for your strains. From seed, you're going to have plants at variable heights. When you're dialed in for production, you'll be cutting clones to all same height, select plants for uniformity, etc.

7) I can't recommend a fert to you cuz I'm still experimenting with them all myself, but keep in mind you can use some hydro ferts in soil..

8) Heat from 2 400w HID's in that size room won't be bad at all. You'll want 1-2 fans to blow air on the plants

9) sounds interesting

10) As a ball-park figure that will be COMPLETELY off, but will give you a number to use in your estimates is 2 oz per plant, given you are using 400w. When you start using those 1000W HPS you'll get alot more. Shipping container: ground should keep it cool down there I would think. Venting, power, water, etc could be difficult to disguise. Could put a little building over the container or something, so you wont just have a pipe sticking out of the ground for exhaust:-) Also, do you get snow/ice in your area? Hot exhaust air could melt the snow around your site...and give you away.

Good luck dude. Wish you the best.

Dboy

[Trichome Creator]

5) smaller pots, then move up as plant growsDboy

I disagree with that. The less transplants the better as in reducing plant shock.

[Garden Knowm]

I disagree with that. The less transplants the better as in reducing plant shock.

i agree with trichs disagreement.... although a lot of people transplant... i personaly find it unneccesary

i love you


if you are growing for BLING

then you need high wattage HPS for flowering... ideally 1000...

and you need to keep the plants short- another reason transplant is not needed

lots of air flow..

and keep the lights close t the tops of your plants



i love you


and CLONING is a MUST!!!!!

: )

[Trichome Creator]

Personally after sucsessful germination I take it straight to the 5 gallon brotha.
Knowm I love you.

[Trichome Creator]

i agree with trichs disagreement.... although a lot of people transplant... i personaly find it unneccesary

i love you


if you are growing for BLING

then you need high wattage HPS for flowering... ideally 1000...

and you need to keep the plants short- another reason transplant is not needed

lots of air flow..

and keep the lights close t the tops of your plants



i love you


and CLONING is a MUST!!!!!

: )

You live to argue with me knowm. :D

[dboy]

The reason I prefer to transplant is that it promotes more efficient use of the soil space. Roots seek their boundary at the edge of the pot and then mass there, leaving alot of unused dirt in the middle of the pot. When you transplant, you encourage a stair-step structure in the root mass, causing the roots to be more evenly distributed in the pot.

To add one more thing though, as a *commerical* grower I probably wouldn't use pots at all, but that wasn't the question.

Dboy

[Trichome Creator]

The reason I prefer to transplant is that it promotes more efficient use of the soil space. Roots seek their boundary at the edge of the pot and then mass there, leaving alot of unused dirt in the middle of the pot. When you transplant, you encourage a stair-step structure in the root mass, causing the roots to be more evenly distributed in the pot.

To add one more thing though, as a *commerical* grower I probably wouldn't use pots at all, but that wasn't the question.

Dboy

This is true I just prefer to avoid any chance of root damage all together.

[dboy]

Yeah understandable. I would think it would be a pain in the ass to repot in a large commercial grow. I'd probably consider building large containers on the floor, or maybe raised off the floor a few inches, using 2x6's, fiberboard, lined with pondliner, if doing the soil thing; but only if customer demand calls for soil or organic. I grow both soil and hydro and I'm really impressed by how well the plants look in hydro. Don't know the optimal spacing or netpot size yet for my hydro but it seems to me that there's higher efficency with hydro. Still trying to figure that out.


Dboy

[Trichome Creator]

Yeah understandable. I would think it would be a pain in the ass to repot in a large commercial grow. I'd probably consider building large containers on the floor, or maybe raised off the floor a few inches, using 2x6's, fiberboard, lined with pondliner, if doing the soil thing; but only if customer demand calls for soil or organic. I grow both soil and hydro and I'm really impressed by how well the plants look in hydro. Don't know the optimal spacing or netpot size yet for my hydro but it seems to me that there's higher efficency with hydro. Still trying to figure that out.


Dboy

Yeah hydro's great I just happen to like soil for the simplicity. I used to fuck with areoponics and I may again one day but it's a pain in the ass compared to soil grows. Fox Farm Ocean Forest Soil works wonders. :thumbsup: