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Trichome Creator
12-18-2005, 08:06 PM
Click here for insight. http://www.freedomdomain.com/freemason.html
If you don't beleive that's exactly what we want you to beleive.

Washington D.C. was built by Freemasons (Iluminati) as you can see in the diagram below.

Trichome Creator
12-18-2005, 08:09 PM
Those who attempt to oppose.
http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/

Trichome Creator
12-18-2005, 08:20 PM
I know your reading this Harvesthetic.

king kong bong
12-18-2005, 08:21 PM
one of the guys that hired me is a freemason. i saw the piece on his chain. he also has this weird ring, it was a black ball. then i saw the guv arnold with the same one but in blue. any significance?

CocaCola
12-18-2005, 08:22 PM
Wow, see how they constructed symbols while building shit? That is incredible... You KNOW they must be up to something!1

Trichome Creator
12-18-2005, 08:23 PM
one of the guys that hired me is a freemason. i saw the piece on his chain. he also has this weird ring, it was a black ball. then i saw the guv arnold with the same one but in blue. any significance?

The black ring denotes a higher rank in the society than the blue one.

SloppyJoe
12-18-2005, 08:24 PM
Het Trichome.......i just wanted to correct you on something you posted.....the freemasons are not the same as the Illuminati. Once a Mason reaches his 33rd degree, he is elligible for membership in Illuminati.

This indeed was a very good post my friend. You have opened a door for some people in here i suppose.

- SJ

Trichome Creator
12-18-2005, 08:27 PM
Wow, see how they constructed symbols while building shit? That is incredible... You KNOW they must be up to something!1

The Illuminati are in all the upper positions in goverment. Including current and past presidents. All of the architecture you see in D.C. and London are of freemason design. My grandfather was a Illuninati and showed me many secrets although it is against the code. I never told a soul what he told me so he would remain safe. The reasons he told me were because he feared for his life because he did not agree with their cause but once a freemason always a freemason. Death is the only way out. They seem harmless but freemasonary is one of the best kept secrets in the world. Technically speaking freemasons already own the world.

Trichome Creator
12-18-2005, 08:28 PM
Het Trichome.......i just wanted to correct you on something you posted.....the freemasons are not the same as the Illuminati. Once a Mason reaches his 33rd degree, he is elligible for membership in Illuminati.

This indeed was a very good post my friend. You have opened a door for some people in here i suppose.

- SJ

Yes but they are connected. Also only men can ever be in the society. This why you have never and will never see a Madam President.

daZenfmeister
12-18-2005, 08:28 PM
thats funny ^

SloppyJoe
12-18-2005, 08:30 PM
The Eye of Ra..... is the illuminati's main symbol. They are the HIGHEST ranking Secret society in the world, and compose of some of the worlds top leaders and persons.

Please follow this link.... http://aztlan.net/protocols.htm and scroll down to where it says PROTOCOLS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION. This is the biggest global Baffle by the illuminati.

Please refer to "Goyim" (Which mean Cattle in hebrew) as mankind.

And Refer to the Elders (Whom are speaking) as the illuminati.

They are masking their plot to take over the world.

Sounds Paranoid. but please do your own research on it fellas.


Once again, thanks for openin this topic up Trichome. I would've never thought of it. lol

- SJ

daZenfmeister
12-18-2005, 08:31 PM
but i really hate all these elitist groups, fuck all the secrets people need to just be open to each other and we'd have ALOT fewer problems they just blind us by telling us that we dont need to knoew but if we did we'd probably be outraged at the unfairness.


im talking about in general not just mason groups.

king kong bong
12-18-2005, 08:33 PM
33rd degrees is not the highest, there is more than that. how can the guy that hired me be higher than the guvernator? hes a black guy too

CocaCola
12-18-2005, 08:34 PM
The Illuminati are in all the upper positions in goverment. Including current and past presidents. All of the architecture you see in D.C. and London are of freemason design. My grandfather was a Illuninati and showed me many secrets although it is against the code. I never told a soul what he told me so he would remain safe. The reasons he told me were because he feared for his life because he did not agree with their cause but once a freemason always a freemason. Death is the only way out. They seem harmless but freemasonary is one of the best kept secrets in the world. Technically speaking freemasons already own the world.

That is crazy, man... Bush is a freemason... so who in hell is higher then the president? Well, I know someone is but not alot of people know that it goes WAY HIGHER THEH THE PRES. And with that being said, it's reasonable to conclude that the Illuminati control... well, alot. OR soemthing big. And I really don't think it is just that they keep it a secret. Too many secrets... how can anybody trust their government, seriously? It's beyond me... I cannot see why anyone would support these freaks.

SloppyJoe
12-18-2005, 08:37 PM
Here is a Better PDF Version of the Protocols for those who are interested.

http://ddickerson.igc.org/protocols.html

scroll down to the pdf and download it.

Trichome Creator
12-18-2005, 08:38 PM
That is crazy, man... Bush is a freemason... so who in hell is higher then the president? Well, I know someone is but not alot of people know that it goes WAY HIGHER THEH THE PRES. And with that being said, it's reasonable to conclude that the Illuminati control... well, alot. OR soemthing big. And I really don't think it is just that they keep it a secret. Too many secrets... how can anybody trust their government, seriously? It's beyond me... I cannot see why anyone would support these freaks.

It's called american politics.

Az.
12-18-2005, 08:39 PM
Yes but they are connected. Also only men can ever be in the society. This why you have never and will never see a Madam President.

check this out...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemasons#Women_in_Freemasonry
i was reading about freemasons and illuminati and shit cause i have no idea what they did.....I still have no idea what they do....i really have no idea what they fuck this is about....

Trichome Creator
12-18-2005, 08:41 PM
check this out...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemasons#Women_in_Freemasonry
i was reading about freemasons and illuminati and shit cause i have no idea what they did.....I still have no idea what they do....

They hold a seperate organiztion but have no power. Not my idea. They merly assist the freemasons.

SloppyJoe
12-18-2005, 08:42 PM
Women hold a seperate organization called "ORDER OF THE EASTERN STAR" for you whose minds are boggled

Trichome Creator
12-18-2005, 08:43 PM
Women hold a seperate organization called "ORDER OF THE EASTERN STAR" for you whose minds are boggled

Are you in the order as well?

SloppyJoe
12-18-2005, 08:44 PM
Why would you say that TC?

and another question.....why couldn't we have had this thread when i had some good weed to smoke? I wish i was high.

CocaCola
12-18-2005, 08:44 PM
It's called american politics.
Shweet! <3 politics.


why couldn't we have had this thread when i had some good weed to smoke? I wish i was high.
Seconded.

Trichome Creator
12-18-2005, 08:45 PM
Why would you say that TC?

and another question.....why couldn't we have had this thread when i had some good weed to smoke? I wish i was high.

Just curious to see if you shared the order.

SloppyJoe
12-18-2005, 08:46 PM
No......i'm just a conspiracy addict. Love reading about government things, and I have some acquaintances whom are Freemasons. So i have a chance to test out the truth of the things i read on them, because there is certain things they cannot deny.

Trichome Creator
12-18-2005, 08:48 PM
I have some acquaintances whom are Freemasons.

Hello.....

king kong bong
12-18-2005, 08:49 PM
but they still deny things. the thing is not all freemasons are involved, you know the average joes. its the masons that have these high positions in the govt and the business world.

SloppyJoe
12-18-2005, 08:50 PM
I for serious reasons, Highly doubt that you share the order my friend. How did you cross the sand?

CocaCola
12-18-2005, 08:50 PM
Or maybe they just like being in a club.


How did you cross the sand?

You must be thinking of the stonecutters!

Trichome Creator
12-18-2005, 08:51 PM
It's been demonstrated that well within two minutes of watching television, most people enter a hypnotic alpha state bordering on theta. Viewers in this state are no longer able to critically evaluate, discern, or pass judgement from their own moral database on the material being viewed. The information just flows, unimpeded, into their subconscious year in and year out.

SloppyJoe
12-18-2005, 08:52 PM
No, if there are any fellows here, they will know whether they were walking or riding when they crossed.

daZenfmeister
12-18-2005, 08:52 PM
my girlfriends grandpa is a free mason im gonna check out his ring next time i see him i remember seeing it once and all i remember is that it has the square and compass symbol on it, i cant remember if it has a stone or something in it. it would be interesting to find out.

CocaCola
12-18-2005, 08:54 PM
It's been demonstrated that well within two minutes of watching television, most people enter a hypnotic alpha state bordering on theta. Viewers in this state are no longer able to critically evaluate, discern, or pass judgement from their own moral database on the material being viewed. The information just flows, unimpeded, into their subconscious year in and year out.
My step-dad has a major TV problem... he watches and he goes into a trance. It's almost impossible to even talk to him in that state.

SloppyJoe
12-18-2005, 08:55 PM
Those of you who are easily amused by the freemasons, shouldn't assume that all who wear a ring are enlightened. Some are only in it "as a club" as one person said previously. Like the Lions or the Moose club. The title is actually Fraternal Order of Masons.

Trichome Creator
12-18-2005, 08:56 PM
I have not claimed to be a freemason nor have I denied it. But you could say one crossed the sand on foot but has learned to ride.

SloppyJoe
12-18-2005, 08:59 PM
Trichome, we seem interested in some of like things.....i'm going to leave this thread now, because i've already posted enough...... But feel free to contact me via instant message. I am subscribed to aim/aol, yahoo, and icq, and msn.

CocaCola
12-18-2005, 09:00 PM
OoOoOoOO, look at all the secrecy.

SloppyJoe
12-18-2005, 09:01 PM
and as a last post.......... If you've learned to ride, than i assume you've pulled a Michael Jackson, brother. Lol. but i understand.

-SJ

Trichome Creator
12-18-2005, 09:02 PM
Yale University may, possibly, be withholding America's most dangerous secrets. The institution protects the interests of three "Orders," presenting Scroll and Key, Wolf's Head, and the notorious Skull and Bones as "Senior Fraternities," but former pledges of these "Tombs," particularly Skull and Bones, dominate American politics and prestigious corporations. The Constitution places the people over the government and states equally, everyone included. If they can investigate us, "we the people" need a closer analysis of future, US leaders, their dinner dates, and the companies who drop billions upon trillions into funding their schemes. Secrets between powerful organizations, namely, Skull and Bones and Scroll and Key (two prime suspects in enforcing the planet under a single government; the New World Order), deserve a mandatory investigation. Think history was an accidental phenomenon?

Trichome Creator
12-18-2005, 09:05 PM
and as a last post.......... If you've learned to ride, than i assume you've pulled a Michael Jackson brother. Lol. but i understand.

-SJ

To learn to ride you must first learn to walk my friend.

We have to learn how to handle masonic symbolism, and the interpretation of symbolic language which, in the Lodge, is partly expressed in words and partly experienced in silence.

hank
12-18-2005, 09:08 PM
Who read "The Angel and the Devil" or a book something like that, I forgot the exact title, go read it. It gives you a good background about this.

CocaCola
12-18-2005, 09:08 PM
Brother? YOU GUYS ARE MASONS!1 ... And now I'm dead.

SloppyJoe
12-18-2005, 09:12 PM
Trichome, I'd like to just introduce you to the idea of DeMolay.....which is where i acquired my beginning knowledge from and grew with it. Post a reply if this makes sense.

Looker
12-18-2005, 09:14 PM
I heard this little rumor that what they do is ..they hang you upside down..and..they kick your face around to the back of your ass....

Trichome Creator
12-18-2005, 09:16 PM
Sloppy Joe.....

Quod semper, quod ubique, quod ab omnibus traitum est.

king kong bong
12-18-2005, 09:17 PM
thats what i cant stand, people that know a bit more and instead of sharin it they act all superior.

Trichome Creator
12-18-2005, 09:18 PM
Trichome, I'd like to just introduce you to the idea of DeMolay.....which is where i acquired my beginning knowledge from and grew with it. Post a reply if this makes sense.

It is based from the theroy of Nine boys and a man.

Trichome Creator
12-18-2005, 09:20 PM
thats what i cant stand, people that know a bit more and instead of sharin it they act all superior.

No ones acting supeior. Some things you must figure out for yourself. You can start with the painting of Mona Lisa.

SloppyJoe
12-18-2005, 09:21 PM
Youre post which you edited was very true my friend......and forever will we be watching as well.

king kong bong
12-18-2005, 09:23 PM
No ones acting supeior. Some things you must figure out for yourself. You can start with the painting of Mona Lisa.

i know that but it seems as if you have some insider info, your grandpops being a mason and all.

lardman
12-18-2005, 09:23 PM
My name is Mason...
no joke
:dance:

Trichome Creator
12-18-2005, 09:27 PM
i know that but it seems as if you have some insider info, your grandpops being a mason and all.

What I can say is that it is true that freemasons have sucsessfully infiltrated all upper forms of goverment including kings and presidents and with that completed now the new world order agenda can now begin. You have no control over it nor do I. Freemasons help build that new order but only the illuminati may govern it.

SloppyJoe
12-18-2005, 09:28 PM
Here's a Clue for those of you who are THRIVING to begin a journey in fulfilling secret knowledge. "Annuit Coeptis Novus Ordo Seclorum"

Trichome Creator
12-18-2005, 09:29 PM
If you think the people's vote is what counts you are sorely mistaken my friend.

king kong bong
12-18-2005, 09:31 PM
If you think the people's vote is what counts you are sorely mistaken my friend.

that i knew already.

Trichome Creator
12-18-2005, 09:31 PM
"Annuit Coeptis Novus Ordo Seclorum"

He has smiled on our undertaking of a world of the new ages.

SloppyJoe
12-18-2005, 09:32 PM
This post wasn't for you Trichome, as i'm sure you already are aware of where to find this Latin

Trichome Creator
12-18-2005, 09:33 PM
Take a look at a dollar bill for example. It is all free mason design.

king kong bong
12-18-2005, 09:34 PM
did you see the owl on the dollar bill? i believe it is Moloch.

Trichome Creator
12-18-2005, 09:35 PM
True freemasons know latin as a second launguage.

SloppyJoe
12-18-2005, 09:36 PM
another clue......to go along with where you find the Latin..... Check the Roman Numerals on the bottom of the Pyramid..... They correspond with the Founding of Illuminati. and for the record ---- NO - i am formally denying that I am NOT a FREEMASON, or Part of the ILLUMINATI. It was fun leading the thread with Trichome though. lol

Trichome Creator
12-18-2005, 09:36 PM
did you see the owl on the dollar bill? i believe it is Moloch.

Figure this one out.

SloppyJoe
12-18-2005, 09:37 PM
I'm just a true pothead, and true potheads do their own research.

Trichome Creator
12-18-2005, 09:38 PM
And yes the owl is embedded on the top corners of the front of the bill.

CocaCola
12-18-2005, 09:38 PM
Everyone knows the Freemasonary talk on the dollar bill... gives us something mooore.

SloppyJoe
12-18-2005, 09:40 PM
OK......why is it In God We Trust. Figure that out, since you want something more. We're not just Giving it away here bro. You obviously have a powerful tool of information (THE INTERNET).....do some research. And add to the thread instead of sucking up from it

CocaCola
12-18-2005, 09:42 PM
Because every mason has to believe in some gay God?

Trichome Creator
12-18-2005, 09:43 PM
Our currency holds many secrets including the two seals of your doom.

CocaCola
12-18-2005, 09:43 PM
So mote it be... your club sucks ass.

SloppyJoe
12-18-2005, 09:43 PM
OK, everyone GET A DOLLAR BILL.....I"M GIVING A LESSON. POST A REPLY WHEN YOUR READY

CocaCola
12-18-2005, 09:44 PM
I'm Canadian!1

king kong bong
12-18-2005, 09:45 PM
OK......why is it In God We Trust. Figure that out, since you want something more. We're not just Giving it away here bro. You obviously have a powerful tool of information (THE INTERNET).....do some research. And add to the thread instead of sucking up from it

well a lot of peeps dont know, why not enlighten them. i doubt they're gonna do the research but if it presented here they might learn something. ya dig?

daZenfmeister
12-18-2005, 09:45 PM
What I can say is that it is true that freemasons have sucsessfully infiltrated all upper forms of goverment including kings and presidents and with that completed now the new world order agenda can now begin. You have no control over it nor do I. Freemasons help build that new order but only the illuminati may govern it.

This is the bullshit that I dont like, you tell us that we can do nothing but believe me WE outnumber YOU by alot 'brother' when it comes down to it I will be deciding the fate of my leaders not the other way around. You underestimate people like myself, sure alot of people out there are idiots who wouldnt know beans from TV Dinners but nature and the laws of the universe come full circle. What I mean is that if something is wrong and unjust then things will always change eventually, I dont know if its some crappy movie headline but the phrase "Adversity creates its own solution" bears alot of meaning right now.

This whole issue gets down to the argument of whether to comit unfair actions for personal gains is right or not. I think that we first must lower our expectations of 'Good' and 'Evil' because one doesnt exist without the other. If we take on a view of existance that incorporates both actions then we remove the labels on them and a good deed isnt different that a bad one. they're both just things that can be done. But this is flawed in the sense that in our modern society you can still be punished for a crimes and injustices, so in order for a leading power to achieve stability in this way you must first change societies accepted views.

I think that when I am givin a chance to lead that I would be perfect, my world would exist in peace and harmony according to my views, which is a sybiotic relational comparison and solutional development of all included groups.

CocaCola
12-18-2005, 09:46 PM
No, you have to prove yourself to join their club.

Trichome Creator
12-18-2005, 09:46 PM
The three corners of the All Seeing Eye represent The Devil, The Antichrist and the false prophet. Many people beleive it is the eye of god but it actually stands for man invading the heavens. This is why religon is a strong beleif in the order.

CocaCola
12-18-2005, 09:48 PM
Does this God-like being have to be literally a being. Can't I say that this 'being' is one collective conscious? No? So I can't join?


And yes the owl is embedded on the top corners of the front of the bill.

They're watching us... >.>

snowultra
12-18-2005, 09:48 PM
bush is not a free mason------all bushes belong to skulls and crossbones, and they produced more presidents than the freemasons so far. in order to get into the skull and crossbones you have to goto yale.
i agree the freemasons are scary, but if you look at goverment jobs they all belong to some type of club like this. there is also the templers but there not that big

king kong bong
12-18-2005, 09:49 PM
The three corners of the All Seeing Eye represent The Devil, The Antichrist and the false prophet. Many people beleive it is the eye of god but it actually stands for man invading the heavens. This is why religon is a strong beleif in the order.

hence why religion runs the world.

SloppyJoe
12-18-2005, 09:49 PM
This is the bullshit that I dont like, you tell us that we can do nothing but believe me WE outnumber YOU by alot 'brother' when it comes down to it I will be deciding the fate of my leaders not the other way around. You underestimate people like myself, sure alot of people out there are idiots who wouldnt know beans from TV Dinners but nature and the laws of the universe come full circle. What I mean is that if something is wrong and unjust then things will always change eventually, I dont know if its some crappy movie headline but the phrase "Adversity creates its own solution" bears alot of meaning right now.

This whole issue gets down to the argument of whether to comit unfair actions for personal gains is right or not. I think that we first must lower our expectations of 'Good' and 'Evil' because one doesnt exist without the other. If we take on a view of existance that incorporates both actions then we remove the labels on them and a good deed isnt different that a bad one. they're both just things that can be done. But this is flawed in the sense that in our modern society you can still be punished for a crimes and injustices, so in order for a leading power to achieve stability in this way you must first change societies accepted views.

I think that when I am givin a chance to lead that I would be perfect, my world would exist in peace and harmony according to my views, which is a sybiotic relational comparison and solutional development of all included groups.


So, are you running for president? Because that's what i got from that.

CocaCola
12-18-2005, 09:50 PM
bush is not a free mason------all bushes belong to skulls and crossbones, and they produced more presidents than the freemasons so far. in order to get into the skull and crossbones you have to goto yale.
i agree the freemasons are scary, but if you look at goverment jobs they all belong to some type of club like this. there is also the templers but there not that big
Oh right... sorry, got my secret clubs mixed up.

Hey, how about that Order Of The Sun guys? Fucking wackos.

Trichome Creator
12-18-2005, 09:51 PM
If you note on the pyramid on the back of a dollar bill there is a pentagram.
When connected properly it spells "MASON".

king kong bong
12-18-2005, 09:52 PM
i think the knights templar is the illuminati. there are 2 types of freemasons, well back in the day there was. it was the freemasons that actually built things like cathedrals and so on. then there was "spectative freemasons" who didnt build anything but joined up with alterior motives.

Trichome Creator
12-18-2005, 09:54 PM
Does this God-like being have to be literally a being. Can't I say that this 'being' is one collective conscious? No? So I can't join?



They're watching us... >.>

No mason can ask you to join as you must join of your own will and not be born in the bonds of slavery. You must beleive in a sumreme being. Not a particular one. You must just beleive. Freemasonry isn't just about owing the world. It is about owning the heavens.

CocaCola
12-18-2005, 09:55 PM
If you note on the pyramid on the back of a dollar bill there is a pentagram.
When connected properly it spells "MASON".
Hey Mr. Latin speaking guy... what does Motis Operondi mean? (No, I can't spell it.)


No mason can ask you to join as you must join of your own will and not be born in the bonds of slavery. You must beleive in a sumreme being. Not a particular one. You must just beleive. Freemasonry isn't just about owing the world. It is about owning the heavens.
I know this... I read a long time ago, trust me... this is very interesting stuff... though I can't say I'm for the Freemasons. Owning the heavens isn't for you guys, in my opinion. But my opinion doesn't matter, cause I'm just a "regular".

king kong bong
12-18-2005, 09:58 PM
modus operandi means habitual method of procedure. for example if a serial killer kills people a distinct way like with a hatchet, then thats his MO.

SloppyJoe
12-18-2005, 09:58 PM
The Pope (Yes the one in the Vatican) has Latin Written on his Mitre, which reads

VICarIoUs fILII DeI

Do the Math on the Roman Numerals

Trichome Creator
12-18-2005, 09:58 PM
Hey Mr. Latin speaking guy... what does Motis Operondi mean? (No, I can't spell it.)


I know this... I read a long time ago, trust me... this is very interesting stuff... though I can't say I'm for the Freemasons. Owning the heavens isn't for you guys, in my opinion. But my opinion doesn't matter, cause I'm just a "regular".

It stands for Method Of Procedure.

CocaCola
12-18-2005, 09:59 PM
Ok... I was just wondering what it translates to. Thanks.

Trichome Creator
12-18-2005, 10:01 PM
Great Men Who Were and Are Masons

Composers
Irving Berlin George M. Cohan Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
John Phillip Sousa Richard Wagner Franz Joseph Haydn
Franz Listz
Entertainers
Gene Autry Ernest Borgnine Joe E. Brown
Bob Burns Eddie Cantor Charles D. Coburn
William F. "Buffalo Bill" Cody Donald Crisp Cecil B. DeMille
Richard Dix Douglas Fairbanks Sr. W.C. Fields
Clark Gable Arthur Godfrey David W. Griffith
Oliver Hardy Jean Hersholt Harry Houdini
Al Jolson Charles "Buck" Jones Harry Kellar
Harold C. Lloyd Tom Mix Dick Powell
Will Rogers Charles S. "Tom Thumb" Stratton Richard B. "Red" Skelton
John Wayne Paul Whiteman Ed Wynn
Darryl Zanuck
Sculptors
Gutzon Borglum and son, Lincoln Borglum together carved Mt. Rushmore National Memorial
Johann G. Schadow Prussian Court Sculptor
J. Otto Schweizer

Writers
Robert Burns Samuel L. Clemens (Mark Twain) Sir Arthur Conan Doyle (Sherlock Holmes)
Edward Gibbon (Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire) Edgar A. Guest Rudyard Kipling
Alexander Pope Sir Walter Scott Jonathan Swift
Lowell Thomas Voltair

Business Leaders
John Jacob Astor (financier) Lloyd Balfour (Jewelry) Lawrence Bell (Bell Aircraft Corp.)
William H. Dow (Dow Chemical Co.) Henry Ford Alfred Fuller (Fuller Brush)
King C. Gillette (Gillette Razor Co.) Sir Thomas Lipton (tea) Fredrick Maytag
Andrew W. Mellon (banker) James C. Penny George Pullman
David Sarnoff (father of T.V.) Leland Stanford (railroads - Stanford Univ.)


Military Leaders
Gen.John J. Pershing Gen.George Marshall Gen.Douglas MacArthur
Gen.Joseph Stillwell Gen.Johnathon Wainwright Gen.Curtis E. LaMay
Gen.Omar N. Bradley Gen.Henry H. "Hap" Arnold Gen.Claire L. Chenault
Mark Clark James Doolittle Adm.David G. Farragut (1st Admiral of U.S. Navy)
Adm.Ernest J. King Richard Byrd

United States Patriots
Francis Scott Key (wrote our National Anthem) Ralph Bellamy (wrote our Pledge of Allegiance) Paul Revere
John Paul Jones Benjamin Franklin John Hancock
Patrick Henry

United States Politicians
Thomas Dewey Everett Dirksen Fiorello H. LaGuardia
John Marshall Barry Goldwater Hubert Humphrey
Robert Dole Jack Kemp

United States Presidents
George Washington James Monroe Andrew Jackson
James Polk James Buchanan Andrew Johnson
James Garfield William McKinley Theodore Roosevelt
William H. Taft Warren G. Harding Franklin D. Roosevelt
Harry S. Truman Gerald Ford

World Leaders
Emilio Aguinaldo (Phillippine Patriot and General) Miguel Aleman (Mexican President 1947-52) Eduard Benes (President of Czechoslovakia 1939-48)
Sveinn Bjornsson (1st President of Iceland) Simon Bolivar ("George Washington of S. America" Napoleon Bonaparte (and his four brothers)
King Charles XIII (King of Sweden 1748-1818) Sir Winston Churchill Randolph Churchill
King Edward VII and King Edward VIII (Kings of England, 1901-10 & 36, respectively) Francis II (Holy Roman Emperor, 1768-1806) Frederick the Great (King of Prussia 1740-86)
George I & George II (Kings of Greece, 1845-1913 & 1922-47) George IV & George VI (Kings of England 1760-1820 & 1820-30) Gustavus VI Adolphus (King of Sweden 1792-1809)
Kamehemeha IV and Kemehemeha V (Kings of Hawaii (1854-63 & 1863-72) Leopold I (King of Belgium (1831-65) Peter the Great (Emperor of Russia 1689-1725)
William I (King of Prussia 1861-88) William II (King of the Netherlands (1792-1849) William IV (King of England (1830-37)

Religious Leaders
James C. Baker (Bishop, Methodist Church, organized first Wesley Foundation in U.S.) Hosea Ballou (Founder, Universalist Church) Robert E. B. Baylor (Baptist clergyman, founder of Baylor University)
Preston Bradley (founder of the Peoples Church) Father Francisco Calvo (Catholic Priest who started Freemasonry in Costa Rica in 1865) Hugh I. Evans (National head of the Presbyterian Church, U.S.A.)
Most Reverend Geoffrey F. Fisher (former Archbishop of Canterbury) Eugene M. Frank (Methodist Bishop) Reverend Dr. Norman Vincent Peale (Methodist Episcopal minister and author)
Titus Low (President of Methodist Council of Bishops) Thomas Starr King Swami Vivekananda

Astronauts
Ed "Buzz" Aldrin Neil Armstrong Gordon Cooper
Don Eisle Virgil Grissom Ed Michell
Tom Stafford Fred Haise Wally Shirra

Explorers
Hiram Bingham (Discoverer of Machu Picchu) James Bruce (Discoverer of the source of the Blue Nile) Adm. Richard E. Byrd
Christopher "Kit" Carson William Clark Merriwether Lewis
Robert E. Peary

Inventors and Scientists
Samuel Colt (firearms) Sir Alexander Fleming (penicillin) Edward Jenner (vaccination)
Simon Lake (first practical submarine) John L. McAdam (Macadamized roads) Luther Burbank

Sports Atheletes
Grover C. Alexander Cy Young Jack Dempsey
Arnold Palmer Tyrus R. "Ty" Cobb Carl O. Hubbell
Christopher "Christy" Mathewson Mordecai P.C. Brown Gordon "Mickey" Corchran
Avery Brundage Albert "Happy" Chandler Branch Rickey
Knute Rockne

Youth Organization Founders
Daniel Carter Beard (Boy Scouts) Frank S. Land (International Order of DeMolay) William Mark Sexson (International Order of Rainbow for Girls)

http://www.sbmasons.com/sbmasons/secrets.htm has a clearer list.

Trichome Creator
12-18-2005, 10:06 PM
This is the bullshit that I dont like, you tell us that we can do nothing but believe me WE outnumber YOU by alot 'brother' when it comes down to it I will be deciding the fate of my leaders not the other way around. You underestimate people like myself, sure alot of people out there are idiots who wouldnt know beans from TV Dinners but nature and the laws of the universe come full circle. What I mean is that if something is wrong and unjust then things will always change eventually, I dont know if its some crappy movie headline but the phrase "Adversity creates its own solution" bears alot of meaning right now.

This whole issue gets down to the argument of whether to comit unfair actions for personal gains is right or not. I think that we first must lower our expectations of 'Good' and 'Evil' because one doesnt exist without the other. If we take on a view of existance that incorporates both actions then we remove the labels on them and a good deed isnt different that a bad one. they're both just things that can be done. But this is flawed in the sense that in our modern society you can still be punished for a crimes and injustices, so in order for a leading power to achieve stability in this way you must first change societies accepted views.

I think that when I am givin a chance to lead that I would be perfect, my world would exist in peace and harmony according to my views, which is a sybiotic relational comparison and solutional development of all included groups.

Masonry, like all the Religions, all the Mysteries, Hermeticism and Alchemy, conceals its secrets from all except the Adepts and Sages, or the Elect, and uses false explanations and misinterpretations of its symbols to mislead those who deserve only to be misled ...
The Blue Degrees are but the outer court or portico of the Temple. Part of the symbols are displayed there to the Initiate, but he is intentionally misled by false interpretations. It is not intended that he shall understand them; but it is intended that he shall imagine he understands them. Their true explication is reserved for the Adepts, the Princes of Masonry.

CocaCola
12-18-2005, 10:06 PM
How do you propose we take over Heaven, brother Trichome?

king kong bong
12-18-2005, 10:08 PM
you left out Benjamin Franklin. The guy that played Kramer, Michael Richards is a 33rd degree freemason.

SloppyJoe
12-18-2005, 10:08 PM
http://www.sizes.com/numbers/roman_numerals.htm if you're having trouble believing that the pope has the roman numerals 666 on his mitre.....please scroll down to the bottom of this webpage and read....how V is the transformation of U.

V=5
I=1
C=100
A=0
R=0
I=1
U=5
S=0

F=0
I=1
L=50
I=1
I=1

D=500
E=0
I=1

500+100+50+5+5+1+1+1+1+1+1= 666

Trichome Creator
12-18-2005, 10:09 PM
Look guys this isn't meant to scare any of you and I have told you all I really can. You have nothing to fear from it. You have been living under it's rule all this time and not known it. The crusade of the masons harms no man but only assumes total power and control for the benefit of all humankind.

CocaCola
12-18-2005, 10:10 PM
Masonry, like all the Religions, all the Mysteries, Hermeticism and Alchemy, conceals its secrets from all except the Adepts and Sages, or the Elect, and uses false explanations and misinterpretations of its symbols to mislead those who deserve only to be misled ...
The Blue Degrees are but the outer court or portico of the Temple. Part of the symbols are displayed there to the Initiate, but he is intentionally misled by false interpretations. It is not intended that he shall understand them; but it is intended that he shall imagine he understands them. Their true explication is reserved for the Adepts, the Princes of Masonry.
THEN HOW DO YOU OR ANYONE ELSE KNOW WHAT THEIR INTENT IS?

I got secrets of my own, you know... individuality, that is what I believe in... that is until we can ALL be brought together. That way there is no secrets.

Trichome Creator
12-18-2005, 10:12 PM
How do you propose we take over Heaven, brother Trichome?

Look at all of the destuction around you. Hurricane Katrina, The Iraq war. People are already losing faith in god. The key to owning the heavens is not to forcefully invade it but to leave people with no beleif. The less whom beleive the weaker his grip.

king kong bong
12-18-2005, 10:13 PM
Look guys this isn't meant to scare any of you and I have told you all I really can. You have nothing to fear from it. You have been living under it's rule all this time and not known it. The crusade of the masons harms no man but only assumes total power and control for the benefit of all humankind.

you mean themselves.

Trichome Creator
12-18-2005, 10:16 PM
This does not mean that I don't beleive in god. To be a mason you must. It is trying to say that mankind would be safer by beleiving in each other and not a supreme being who does nothing. Yes he created the earth but it looks like he went on to a new project and forgot about us.

Trichome Creator
12-18-2005, 10:17 PM
you mean themselves.

That would be the american goverment and many others.

Trichome Creator
12-18-2005, 10:21 PM
A freemason is just a pawn of the Illuminati. Illuminati make the desicions and freemasons make those desicions happen. That there shows that all the presidents who were freemasons anwser to a higher power.

Trichome Creator
12-18-2005, 10:26 PM
Freemasonry is also considered the hand of the devil controlling man. In biblical proportions it was said jesus would return in 2000 years after his death and revival. In between that gap of time the devil has infulence over the world. That is essentially the order of the masons. It's more complicated than that but I can't discuss anymore. If your interested in this and wish to possibly join there are many masonic lodges all over the world but you must join of your own will and I cannot ask you. If you want me to locate a masonic lodge near you e-mail me at [email protected] and I will be more than happy to direct you to the way. It's not satinism if thats what you think it's more about depending on each other.

Trichome Creator
12-18-2005, 10:33 PM
And no I'm not a devil worshipper. I do beleive in god.

CocaCola
12-18-2005, 10:35 PM
Why does there have to be society to join? JUST WHY?

Trichome Creator
12-18-2005, 10:37 PM
Why does there have to be society to join? JUST WHY?

Just for the sake of gathering and exchanging massonic ideas and other things......There is also a ritual.

Trichome Creator
12-18-2005, 10:41 PM
Have you ever heard of the Shriners? You know the old guys in the funny red hats? they are all freemasons. Beachguy may know this one. Every weekend in Virginia Beach they have a parade. They do funny things like ride little go karts but that is to make people downplay the entire order.

Harvesthetic
12-18-2005, 10:43 PM
I know your reading this Harvesthetic.

Yes. I was. Yet i failed to reply immediately due to compromising circumstances.
I could go on and on and on about the Freemasons. Separating the suspected truth from the selfproclaimed statements and totally farfetched theories that come naturally when such secrecy masks their true intentions, is an arduous task.

Sometimes a man gets too convinced and he starts to believe his own lies. If the man has the power to convince others, call it demographic speech on a smaller scale, such incorrect things become widespread. If two or three pieces of the puzzle fit perfectly, people tend to lose control of their logic and desperately hold on to the little arguments they posses.

In this case however, we are not talking about something on a lower scale here. The general public however doesn't seem to have a clue yet. Probably because the media isn't interested in stories that last longer than an explosion.

There is some very relevant data widely available, right before our very eyes. The link is tough to comprehend, and needs a certain level of nuance like every other "true" story. Seek and you will find, your own feeling and conclusion is very important, yet not to be imposed on others. Discussed, but not imposed.

But since this would be an empty post without hot news, here goes. Begin by reading the bible properly. You might find this oldfashioned yet it holds the collective wisdom of an era, not to be underestimated. Art, music and culture will become more rich if you recognize the references. (Scarface for example, lots or allusions there, and many more of your favourite movies)

Then read up on http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/
Try to make up a clean sober idea, not supposing too much, we're still human.
A lot of inside CIA drug traffic, malpractice, methods of secrecy and pretty much telling lies under oath.
Ok, we still understand that one, power is there to be abused, yeah it's normal to a certain degree. Let it roll, it's the flow of life.

Check out Bush's Skull&Bones club. It also includes John Kerry. Weird huh? Yeah it's exclusive though. Little fraternity club, bit posh but not too much.
I suggest you do your reading and see for yourself...

Area 51 of course.
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/articlearea51.shtml
http://www.sptimes.com/2004/10/24/Northpinellas/Secret_tales_of_Area_.shtml

Now whe're getting a bit confused. A little too much fog there, no need for all those lies, some chose to go radically for one ideal, ignoring other facts.
This is where we become racist, or selfish, and untrustworthy.

But we go on. Check out the Bohemian Grove Conventions. http://www.sonomacountyfreepress.com/bohos/bohofact.html
Even stranger. A bunch of high-rated officials from all kinds (that's a fact, Bush again) joining up to worship an owl? Come on, that's rediculous one could say
I suggest you do your reading and see for yourself...

Check out the links Trichome gave you. Uphold your sense of nuance and try to think clear. http://www.tlio.demon.co.uk/masons.htm
http://www.publiceye.org/tooclose/masons.html
http://www.gaiaguys.net/masonic-degrees.htm
http://www.sullivan-county.com/id3/famous_fm.htm
http://www.americanmason.com/articlemain.ihtml?ID=32

It just doesn't work anymore... Too much mistery

At this point, you still don't want to conclude anything, you will only tell people about this problem, discussing it, not imposing it remember.
But you sure can open the debate, and debate leads to generally acceptable conclusions like opposing racism, the honest striving for a better community, and many other fine things.

We pretty much can conclude only this about Freemasons and secret operations; secrecy is a dangerous weapon. Especially for those who hold it.

And we're getting fed up with that right?
Information is of the greatest value that's why i typed such a motherload of letters apparently. And that nice joint i lit when i began typing seems to last.

On topic: :D

Trichome Creator
12-18-2005, 10:50 PM
Well said harvest well said.

Trichome Creator
12-18-2005, 10:53 PM
Did you see the hexagram harvesthetic? Few people realize when they handle money they are touching the devil's symbols.

Harvesthetic
12-18-2005, 11:02 PM
Trichome, thx i've seen a LOT of things like that just check some corporate logo's. Tips of the iceberg.

CBS the allseeing eye
Texaco's pentagram
and Enrons feet placement chart for masonic introduction ceremonies

Trichome Creator
12-18-2005, 11:04 PM
Trichome, thx i've seen a LOT of things like that just check some corporate logo's. Tips of the iceberg.

CBS the allseeing eye
Texaco's pentagram
and Enrons feet placement chart for masonic introduction ceremonies

Most people have no idea. LOL they think bush is running the country. HA

daZenfmeister
12-18-2005, 11:07 PM
This is amazing http://www.sumeria.net/free/sanskrit.html read that website, just more proof of all the lies and manipulation of the American public. we're supposed to be the most advanced country in the world, so lets prove it instead of relying on fossil fuels which is retarded.

Harvesthetic
12-18-2005, 11:09 PM
Indeed the wireless electricity Tesla plant patent is somehow forgotten.. Weird.
The guy invented DC for the love of god.

daZenfmeister
12-18-2005, 11:43 PM
Indeed the wireless electricity Tesla plant patent is somehow forgotten.. Weird.
The guy invented DC for the love of god.
Science is pretty amazing I like this guys site, he explains what gravity is and I think I believe him http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/Thinktank/2272/

Harvesthetic
12-18-2005, 11:51 PM
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/elegant/program.html
The Elegant Universe. Gravity ;)

I have downloaded a documentary on Tesla. It's amazing what that guy patented.
It's related to High Frequency Air Pollution.
http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/HAARP.htm

eg420ne
12-19-2005, 04:23 AM
Preface to King-Kill/ 33: James Shelby Downard's Vision
http://www.hoffman-info.com/kingkill33.html

This excerpt from the essay "King-Kill/33" has been out of print since 1987 and the publication of the first edition of Adam Parfrey's conspiracy anthology, 'Apocalypse Culture.' Subsequent editions of 'Apocalypse Culture' (including the current Feral House edition), do not carry it.

The Campaign for Radical Truth in History (http://www.hoffman-info.com) is pleased to make this excerpt available once again, on the occasion of the 33rd anniversary of the immolation of America's only Catholic president, John Fitzgerald Kennedy. May his surviving murderers be yet brought to justice.

Convicted Mafia hit-man Charles Harrelson, a suspected Kennedy assassin, is incarcerated in a Federal prison for the contract killing of a federal judge. (The suspect is the father of "Natural Born Killer" movie star Woody Harrelson, who was directed by "JFK" filmmaker Oliver Stone). Journalists have thus far shown little interest in attempting to interview the senior Harrelson and persuade him to provide information which might lead to the arrest and conviction of those responsible for Kennedy's killing.

The late James Shelby Downard's primal way of looking at things, which is the way I think ancient man perceived the world, encompasses a vision that detects every link and every symbol, beginning with the significance of names, then places and then the obsessive actions which stem from the confluence of the two and which have come to be known as ritual. Publisher Adam Parfrey, who first brought Shelby's work to a mass audience, states:

"In Downard's writings, the products of his subconscious bubble to the surface and catalyze painstaking research. The collision of the poetic against the logical works especially well in the field of conspiracy; it remains the freshest approach to a field of inquiry..."

I remember sitting in Shelby's airs-tream trailer in St. Petersburg, Florida in 1977, along with the great Fortean philosopher William N. Grimstad and Charles Saunders, a brilliant recluse who was a close friend of Jack Kerouac toward the end of the Beat writer's life (a fact missed by every one of Kerouac's numerous biographers; so much for biographers).

Shelby's conversation that day ranged from the occult significance of the Theremin musical instrument to the sorcerous implications of elevators, the relationship he had with an evanescent rabbit named Petey; the sinister connotations of the circus and the mystical topography of the American Southwest, which Mr. Downard knew the way you and I know our backyard.

As he fried our hamburgers, he regaled us in his prospector's drawl with the hidden wonders of a tapestry of coincidences which he wove from the seeming mundane details of everyday living, into a magic carpet of incomparable strangeness and peerless utility.

Parfrey spoke for many of Shelby's friends and associates when he stated: "Downard has influenced me to look with interest upon the details and the fantastic convergences of life..."

For my money, James Shelby Downard is the one man most intimately tied to the once and future November, on the Camelot calendar's 33rd turning of the wheel, in this age of the Revelation of the Method; the era of the deluge of hidden facts made public, which Downard predicted would not liberate us, but only enslave us further.

More than two decades ago he foresaw the coming of this time as the fulfillment of the final dictum of the alchemical rampage of the elephant Must Be; the behemoth run amok in the fields of our nightmares. As the "X-Files" and the other fictional TV shows which neither I or Shelby have ever seen, purposefully muddy the waters with a flood of pop drivel disguised as revelation, the actual truths are lost in the swirl.

James Shelby Downard looked forward to the time beyond Must Be, to the era which will witness the return of could be. After the coming cataclysmic chastisement has run its cleansing course, we will once again wish upon a star and dream a destiny free of the Masonic chain that at present binds our nation as tightly as the hangman's rope once bound the rotted cadavers on Tyburn Tree.

Despite having been relentlessly targeted and attacked for more than a half century, Mr. Downard, unlike poor Kennedy, did trip the Harodim on the winding stairs and did slide down the railing, like a child outwitting enormously big and powerful bad guys, by the fortune which Providence reserves for the guileless. --Michael A. Hoffman II

KING-KILL/33°
Masonic Symbolism in the Assassination of John F. Kennedy
By James Shelby Downard with Michael A. Hoffman II

This excerpt Copyright©1998. All Rights Reserved.

To purchase a ring-bound copy of the complete 41 pp. King-Kill 33 manuscript, as well as other writings of Mr. Downard, visit our secure online store.

The information I present in these pages on the Kennedy assassination is well-known to certain news agencies who have chosen to suppress it, just as the motivation for the assassination has been plunged into cryonic secrecy. Masonic betrayal of the "common man" involves archetypes of fertility and death symbolism seemingly motivated to bring about syncretism in opposing principles in order to green Israel, rebuild the Temple of Solomon and establish a One World government.

It is by way of Masonic sorcery that the union of opposing principles is supposed to be brought about. The criminals who stage-managed Dallas in the killing of Kennedy have controlled the American people's will in exchange for a sleep without nightmares. I publish this in the wake of the situation Charles Seymour alluded to: "The moralist unquestionably secures wide support; but he also wearies his audience." Most Americans are beyond being tired; the revelations have benumbed them.

Most Freemasons apparently have no idea of the evil that is part of Masonry, and if they do know about it they don't believe it. The same holds true for most members of the "Clandestine Lodges" and Masonic-oriented fraternal organizations as well as Androgynous Masonic Societies.

It is certain that onomatology, or the science of names, forms a very interesting part of the investigations of the higher Masonry.... --(Encyclopedia of Freemasonry)

When the ancients saw a scapegoat, they could at least recognize him for what he was: a pharmakos, a human sacrifice. When modern man sees one, he does not, or refuses to, recognize him for what he IS; instead he looks for "scientific" explanations-to explain away the obvious.

--Thomas Szasz, (Ceremonial Chemistry)

The "science of names" word wizardry forms only one segment of the science of symbolism used by Masons. The JFK assassination encounters this science in a decisive way and contains a veritable nightmare of symbol-complexes having to do with violence, perversion, conspiracy, death and degradation. These elements are important not only as cause-and-effect in the murder of a president but in the ensuing reaction of the people of America and the world.

The fertility and death symbolism in the "Killing of the King" rite which is part of Greening Ritualism that has to do with JFK, has been suppressed because examination of it must necessarily link it to "Freemasonry" and its mysticism, as well as to the political influence it exerts. Obviously this would do some damage to public confidence in:

a. Masonic progressivism. i.e. Iiberty, equality, fraternity.

b. Those who have shielded the conspirators.

c. The entire mental concept that passes for knowledge about the genuine nature of the government of the United States.

Mystical Toponomy

Mystical toponomy incorporates word wizardry (onomatology) and the Masonic science of symbolism. In considering my data it would be helpful to consider a dictum of Einsteinian physics: "Time relations among events are assumed to be first constituted by the specific physical relations obtaining between them."

My study of place names imbued with sorcerous significance necessarily includes lines of latitude and longitude and the divisions of degrees in geography and cartography (minutes and seconds).

Let us take as an example the "Mason Road" in Texas that connects to the "Mason No El Bar" and the Texas-New Mexico ("The Land of Enchantment") border. This connecting line is on the 32nd degree. The 32nd degree is the penultimate Masonic degree awarded. When this 32nd degree of latitude is traced west into the "Land of Enchantment" it becomes situated midway between Deming and Columbus, New Mexico.

Slightly to the north of the town of Columbus are the Tres Hermanas (three sisters) mountains. It is approximately 32 miles between Deming and Columbus. The Three Sisters mountains are a minute and some seconds south of the 32nd degree line. When this line is traced further west it passes the ghost town of Shakespeare at a distance south of the town which is roughly equivalent to the distance which the 32nd degree line passes north of the Three Sisters mountains. The names "Shakespeare" and "Three Sisters" find a connection in the tragedy Macbeth which comprises such a large part of JFK assassination imagery.

When this 32nd degree line is traced a little distance farther west, into Arizona, it crosses an old trail which meandered north of what is now another ghost town but which at one time was called the town of "Ruby." Part of the old winding trail became known as the "Ruby Road." The town of Ruby acquired its name officially on April 11, 1912, and was notorious for many brutal murders which had ritual aspects. Four of these homicides occurred in a store attached to the post office which had been erected over the grave of a Catholic priest.

Continuing on with mystical toponomy, one encounters the fact that Ruby road twists north into the area known as the Kennedy and Johnson mountains.

Johnson Mountain is supposedly named after the general manager of the Peabody Mining Company who also had a town named after him which was the location of the Keystone and Peabody copper mines. The 32nd degree of latitude is but a few seconds from Johnson. In this frontier town on a December evening, 1883, a Colonel Mike Smith and a man Mason were ambushed by gunfighters described as being of questionable reputation and questionable character. These terms are employed in Masonic writings:

He [Captain William Morgan, victim of an early 19th century torture-murder by Masons] was a man of questionable character and dissolute habits, and his enmity to Masonry originated in his refusal of the Masons of Leroy. (Encyclopedia of Freemasonry).

A "keystone" is the designation for which, when set in place, "keys" or locks the whole. A symbolic keystone is vital to the legend of the Masonic Royal Arch Degree of York. The earliest known record of such a degree is in the annals of the city of Fredericksburg, Virginia, on December 22, 1753. Fredericksburg is also the location of the "House of the Rising Sun," a masonic meeting place for such notables as founding fathers George Washington and Benjamin Franklin (of Hell-Fire Club fame) and George Mason.

The Killing of the King

Never allow anyone the luxury of assuming that because the dead and deadening scenery of the American city-of-dreadful-night is so utterly devoid of mystery, so thoroughly flat-footed, sterile and infantile, so burdened with the illusory gloss of "baseball-hot dogs-apple-pie-and-Chevrolet" that it is somehow outside the psycho-sexual domain.

The eternal pagan psychodrama is escalated under these "modern" conditions precisely because sorcery is not what 20th century man can accept as real. Thus the "Killing of the King" rite of November, 1963 is alternately diagnosed as a conflict Needless to say, each of these groups has a place in the symbolism having to do with the Kennedy assassination.

But the ultimate purpose of that assassination was not political or economic but sorcerous: for the control of the dreaming mind and the marshalling of its forces is the omnipotent force in this entire scenario of lies, cruelty and degradation. Something died in the American people on November 22, 1963-call it idealism, innocence or the quest for moral excellence. It is the transformation of human beings which is the authentic reason and motive for the Kennedy murder and until so-called conspiracy theorists can accept this very real element they will be reduced to so many eccentrics amusing a tiny remnant of dilettantes and hobbyists.

President Kennedy and his wife left the Temple Houston and were met at midnight by tireless crowds present to cheer the virile "Sun God" and his dazzlingly erotic wife, the "Queen of Love and Beauty," in Fort Worth. On the morning of November 22, they flew to Gate 28 at Love Field, Dallas, Texas. The number 28 is one of the correspondences of Solomon in kabbalistic numerology; the Solomonic name assigned to 28 is "Beale."

On the 28th degree of latitude in the state of Texas is the site of what was once the giant "Kennedy ranch." On the 28th degree is also Cape Canaveral from which the moon flight was launched-made possible not only by the President's various feats but by his death as well, for the placing of the Freemasons on the moon could occur only after the Killing of the King. The 28th degree of Templarism is the "King of the Sun" degree. The President and First Lady arrived in Air Force One, code-named "Angel."

The motorcade proceeded from Love Field to Dealey Plaza. Dealey Plaza is the site of the Masonic temple in Dallas (now razed) and there is a marker attesting to this fact in the plaza.

Important "protective" strategy for Dealey Plaza was planned by the New Orleans CIA station whose headquarters were a Masonic temple building. Dallas, Texas is located ten miles north of the 33rd degree of latitude. The 33rd degree is the highest in Freemasonry and the founding lodge of the Scottish Rite in America was created in Charleston, South Carolina, exactly on the 33rd degree line.

Dealey Plaza is close to the Trinity River. At 12:22 p.m. the motorcade proceeded down Main Street toward the Triple Underpass, traveling first down ("Bloody") Elm St. The latter was the scene of numerous gun fights, stabbings and other violence, and it is the location of the Majestic Theatre, the pawn shop/negro district, and industrial district.

It was also the home of the Blue Front Tavern, a Masonic hangout in the grand tradition of "tavern-Masonry": Sam Adams and the Masons of the American Revolution did much of their conspiring at the Green Dragon Tavern in Boston. One of the many bars claiming the honor of being the first Masonic lodge is the Bunch of Grapes Tavern, also in Boston.

The Blue Front was the site of the "broken-man" ritual in which various members of the "Brotherhood of the Broom" swept the floor and tended some fierce javelino pigs. The Blue Front was once a fire-house and was still sporting its fire-pole in the late 1920s. This is extremely germane symbolism. The national offices of the Texaco Oil Corporation are located on Elm St., Dallas. Its chief products are "Haviland (javalino) Oil" and "Fire Chief" gasoline.

On the corner of Bloody Elm and Houston is the "Sexton Building." "Sexton" is heavily laden with graveyard connotations. It is closely associated to the beetles of the genus Necrophorus or Sexton Beetles, so-called because they bury the remains of tiny animals with their eggs.

Bloody Elm, Main, and Commerce form a trident pattern in alignment with the triple underpass as any Dallas map will show. Many analysts contend that at least three assassins were involved in the crossfire ambush of Kennedy.

It is a prime tenet of Masonry that its assassins come in threes. Masonic assassins are known in the code of the lodge as the "unworthy craftsmen." Because Masonry is obsessed with earth-as-gameboard (tessellation) and the ancillary alignments necessary to facilitate the "game," it is inordinately concerned with railroads and railroad personnel to the extent that outside of lawyers and circus performers, no other vocation has a higher percentage of Masons than railroad workers.

Minutes after John Fitzgerald Kennedy was murdered three "hoboes" ("unworthy craftsmen") were arrested at the rail-yard behind Dealey Plaza.

No records of their identities have ever been revealed nor the "identity" of the arresting officer. All that remains of those few minutes are a series of photographs which have reached legendary proportions among persons concerned with uncovering the real forces and persons behind the assassination.

Dealey Plaza breaks down symbolically in this manner: "Dea" means "goddess" in Latin and "Ley" can pertain to the law or rule in the Spanish, or lines of preternatural geographic significance in the pre-Christian nature religions of the English.

For many years Dealey Plaza was underwater at different seasons, having been flooded by the Trinity River until the introduction of a flood-control system. To this trident-Neptune site came the "Queen of Love and Beauty" and her spouse, the scapegoat in the Killing of the King rite, the "Ceannaideach" (Gaelic word for Kennedy meaning "ugly head" or "wounded head").

The systematic arrangement and pattern of symbolic things having to do with the killing of Kennedy indicates that he was a scapegoat in a sacrifice. The purpose of such macabre ritualism is further recognizable in patterns of symbolism culminating in the final "making manifest all that is hidden."

Oswald

Oswald means "divine strength." The diminutive form of the word is "os" or "Oz": denoting strength. The role which "Divine Strength" played in the Dealey "Goddess Rule" Killing of the King ritual should be given careful consideration.

One should also note the significance of (Jack) Ruby's killing (destroying) of "Ozwald" in reference to the "Ruby Slippers" of The Wizard of Oz which one may deride as a fairy tale but which nevertheless symbolizes the immense power of "ruby light," otherwise known as the laser.

Oswald may have undergone biotelemetry implantation in the Soviet Union while a "volunteer" at a Behavior Control Center at Minsk. Oswald roomed with Cubans and was allegedly friendly with a Castro-man identified only as being "burly" and a "key man." "Burly" can mean burlecue, burlicue or burlesque. The "key," of course, is one of the most important symbols in Masonry and the symbol of silence.

If Oswald was the result of some Soviet Frankenstein process why did he have to travel several thousand miles for such treatment when it is a routine operation in America?

While such activities of the Mill-of-Dread are pro forma at a variety of institutions at the present, there was once a time when it was deemed necessary to do such work at Walter Reed Hospital.

These implants were back alley operations in which the victims were overpowered in some place or other, drugged and then dragged to this government hospital. They were operated on, continued on a heavy drug regimen and varied from somnolent to comatose for a number of days. The electrical function of the victim was recorded and monitored and the biotelemetry plant tested. Subsequently the victims were "brainwashed" and returned to the place where they had been seized. The targets then continued their existence, unaware of how their bodies had been invaded and their autonomy stolen.

Occasionally, victims were returned to Walter Reed because of abscesses at the incision or for the replacement of the obsolete device with an updated one. Biotelemetry implants were made in various parts of the body depending on the desired effect and function.

Like the disgraceful treatment of the autopsy of President Kennedy, Oswald's is similarly weird. Oswald was literally butchered in the "postmortem examination." Pieces were actually cut out of his body. The major incision in his torso resembled a huge "Y" which ran from the area of his groin to the solar plexus region. From there incisions were made to the right and left armpits. The so-called "two horns of the letter Y" supposedly symbolize the paths of virtue and vice: the right branch leading to the former and the left to the latter. The letter is sometimes referred to as the "Litera Pythagorae" (The Letter of Pythagoras): "Litera Pythagorae, discrimine secta bicorni, Humanae vitae speciem praeferre videtur" (The Letter of Pythagoras parted by its two branched division appears to exhibit the image of human life).

In the 47th Problem of Euclid lies a secret of the 3rd Degree of Masonry. Pythagoras is called by Freemasons "our ancient friend and brother." One of Pythagoras' main doctrines was the system of "Metempsychosis" which pertains to the passing of a human soul into the body of an animal. Perhaps this was the intention of the autopsy-by incising in Oswald's body the "Letter of Pythagoras" they sought to expedite transmigration, and they may even have gone as far as feeding sections of Oswald's corpse to the intended animal, for this too is a practice of what used to be widely feared as necromancy.

Arlington Necrology

The Kennedy and Oswald burials were both at "Arlington": JFK at the National Cemetery near Washington, D.C., and Oswald at Rosehill Cemetery near Arlington, Texas. "Arlington" is a word of significance in Masonic sorcery and mysticism and it has a hidden meaning which ties in with necrolatry.

At the Kennedy gravesite there is a stone circle and in its middle a fire that is called an "eternal flame." The fire in the middle of the circle represents a point in the circle, the same type of symbolism that is recognizable in Kennedy's bier and coffin being in the center of the rotunda in the Capitol. A point in a circle symbolized the sun in ancient sun worship. It was also a symbol of fecundity, with the point symbolizing a phallus and the circle a vagina.

At the Oswald gravesite stands a small tree. There exists an old belief that a tree which grows at or on a grave is embodied with the spirit-force of the person buried at that site, and that a twig or branch taken from such a tree has magical powers.

I suggest that Lee Harvey Oswald's mother should gently remove a twig from the tree at her son's grave and then at every opportunity touch FBI agents, CIA operatives, policemen, etc., with that same twig. Such a procedure couldn't help but be more efficacious in bringing the murderers of JFK to justice than the Warren Commission was.

Funerary Rites

John F. (Honey Fitz) Fitzgerald, the grandfather of John F. Kennedy, was elected mayor of Boston thanks in part to his "Wake House" campaigns which were much imitated. These consisted of a daily surveillance of the newspapers for announcements of deaths after which a discreet "sympathizer" would be dispatched and a good deal of political mileage accumulated in the bargain.

For a time the Fitzgerald's lived near the former site of the Green Dragon Tavern, established around 1680 and demolished for the widening of a street in 1820. The Fitzgerald home was on Hanover Street and the Green Dragon Tavern was on Green Dragon Lane (now Union Street). The tavern boasted the "first lodge room of Freemasonry in America," the St. Andrew Lodge located within the tavern proper.

In the mysticism of the Chinese tongs, the Green Dragon is a death symbol. A symbol of the dragon is worn on a ring or held in the hand of a "hatchet man." The Green Dragon is supposed to impart the notion of a "license to kill" for it signifies that the murder is an affair of "honor": the Green Dragon is the guardian of the god-with-a-thousand-eyes who protects the sanctity of the third heaven.

Much of Boston's Irish population arrived in American in what were nicknamed the "coffin ships." Members of the Kennedy family were acquainted with the "Coffin" family. The Reverend William Sloane Coffin was the son of the theologian Henry Sloane Coffin; the younger Coffin was a member of the Peace Corps Advisory Council that Sargent Shriver headed. "Shriver" or "Shrive" has the meaning of one who grants absolution to a penitent, and it was customary to call upon a shriver before death. If the shriver was not available, a "sin eater" was summoned. The old pious cry which was connected with the request for a shriving was "Shrive me O Holy Land and Give Me Peace." To this the shriver would respond "Pax Vobiscum":

...the spell lies in two words, Pax Vobiscum will answer all queries. If you go or come, eat or drink, bless or ban, Pax Vobiscum carries you through it all. It is as useful to a friar as a broomstick to a witch or a wand to a conjurer. Speak it but thus, in a deep grave tone, Pax Vobiscum! It is irresistible-watch and ward, Knight and squire, foot and horse, it acts as a charm upon them all. I think, if they bring me out to be hanged tomorrow, as is much to be doubted they may, I will try its weights upon the finisher of the sentence. ("Wamba, son of Witless")

Sargent Shriver, a Catholic and Kennedy by marriage, as head of the Peace Corps and in association with a Coffin, might be considered to be in a sensitive position in relation to mystical onomatology.

In the ancient mysteries the aspirant could not claim a participation in the highest secrets until he had been placed in the Pastos, bed or coffin. The placing of him in the coffin was called the symbolical death of the mysteries, and his deliverance was termed a rising from the dead; the "mind," says an ancient writer quoted by Stobaeus, is afflicted in death just as it is in the initiation in the mysteries. And word answers to word, as well as thing to thing; for burial is to die and death to be initiated. The coffin in Masonry is found on the tracing boards of the early part of the last century, and has always constituted a part of the symbolism of the Third Degree, where the reference is precisely to the same as that of the Pastos in the ancient mysteries. [My emphasis.] (Encyclopedia of Freemasonry)

President Kennedy sat at the head of a coffin table at the White House. To his back, over a fireplace, hung a portrait of Abraham Lincoln, an assassinated president. On either side of the picture were urns that resembled the type called "cinerary urns" which are vessels in which the ashes of the dead are kept.

A book about JFK was called Three Steps to the White House. In Masonry are what is known as the "three symbolical steps." "The three grand steps symbolically lead from this life to the source of all knowledge." (Encyclopedia of Freemasonry)

It must be evident to every Master Mason without further explanation, that the three steps are taken from the darkness to a place of light, either figuratively or really over a coffin, the symbol of death, to teach symbolically that the passage from darkness and ignorance of this life through death to the light and knowledge of eternal life. And this from earliest times was the true symbolism of the step. (Ibid.)

The body of President Kennedy was placed in a coffin which was positioned in the center of a circle under the Capitol dome. The catafalque was "a temporary structure of wood appropriately decorated with funeral symbols and representing a tomb or cenotaph. It forms a part of the decorations of a 'Sorrow Lodge.' " This Masonic Encyclopedia entry refers to the ceremonies of the Third Degree in Lodges of the French Rite.

Pictures taken of the Kennedy coffin and catafalque show these two props of the funerary rite as a point in a circle. Fecundity is the symbolic signification of the Point within a circle and is a derivation of ancient sun worship.

In the lore of mystery cults and fertility religions was invariably the legend of the death of the hero god and the disappearance of his body. In the subsequent search and supposed finding of the body we see the contrivance of an elaborate psychological ruse. The body was said to have been concealed by the killer or killers of the hero god. The concealment of the body was called "aphanism" and is a rite of the Masonic 3rd Degree. Anyone interested in comprehending the mechanics of group mind control would do well to study the 3rd and 9th degrees in particular, and all the grades of Masonry in general. The disappearance of the body, this aphanism, is to be found in the assassination of President Kennedy:

The President's brain was removed and his body buried without it ... Dr. Cyril Wecht, chief medical examiner of Allegheny County, Pennsylvania, past president of the American Academy of Forensic Scientists, and a professor of pathology and law, received permission from the Kennedy family in 1972 to view the autopsy materials (at the National Archives) ... When he routinely asked to see the brain, Wecht was told it was missing, along with the microscopic slides of the brain. Marion Johnson, curator of the Warren Commission's material at the Archives said, "The brain's not here. We don't know what happened to it." (Los Angeles Free Press, Special Report No. I, pg. 16)

If and when the brain is recovered, the entire process will have been completed under the term "euresis." In the Masonic Mysteries are "symbolical ladders." On the Masonic tracing board of 1776 there is a ladder with three steps, a significant revision of the usual ladder in such references (seven steps).

There are of course all sorts of ladders: the Brahmanical Ladder (seven steps), the Kadosh Ladder (seven steps), Rosicrucian Ladder (seven steps), Jacob's Ladder (various numbers attributed), the Kabbalistic Ladder (ten steps); then there is old "Tim Finnegan's Ladder" which is known to some as the "Ladder of Misfortune," and it is seemingly comprised of one false step after another.

Tim Finnegan was an Irish hod carrier who fell off his ladder while drunk. Since he was apparently dead, his friends held a "Death Watch" (black watch or wake) at his coffin. This watch lived up to the traditional "liveliness" of these affairs and Mr. Finnegan was splashed with some vintage Irish whiskey (Fitzgerald's?) and resurrected. "Finnegan's Wake"...

After the Kennedy coffin was removed from the center of the Capitol rotunda circle, it was taken, with pageantry, to the street for viewing. The funeral procession made an "unplanned stop" on Pennsylvania Avenue in front of the "Occidental Restaurant" and a picture was taken of the flag draped Kennedy coffin with the word "Occidental" featured prominently over it. In Masonry and in the lore of the Egyptian jackal-god Anubis, a dead person is said to have "gone west."

Several months after the Kennedy funeral, "Occidental Life," an insurance branch of the Transamerica Corporation, ran an advertisement for group life insurance which it proclaimed to be "new" but contained a turn that was indeed original: the inferential weird claim was made that "Until now there was only one way to cash in on Group Insurance" (my emphasis); apparently some rather profound changes were made in the manner of things-as-they-are after the "Killing of the King" had become a fait accompli.

The spontaneous stop was made because of the horse Sardar ("chief"), a gelding ("Castro"), which was wearing boots pointing around to the rear in the Kennedy funerary rite. Horses figure prominently not only in the pleasure of kings but in their murders as well. James Earl Ray was convicted partly on the evidence of a "white Mustang" (automobile), Sirhan Sirhan claimed to his psychiatrists, trance-like, that he shot Robert Kennedy "for a mustang, mustang, mustang ..."

John F. Kennedy had demonstrated affection for the performance of a lady who was a renowned ostrich-feather fan-manipulator (Norma Jean Baker a.k.a. Marilyn Monroe). In Egypt, lamenting girls with ostrich feather-fans sang a song of entreaty of the type that Nephthys and Isis reputedly sang as a dirge, before the partial resurrection and/or erection of Osiris. The sad dirge or lamentation has become known as a "Maneros" consisting primarily of the singers entreating the dead to return, by singing "come to my house" and then offering inducements of some type or other.

It is a damn pity that the ritualists didn't have Marilyn Monroe and Rosemary Clooney sing a Maneros at the JFK funeral, for Rosemary Clooney just couldn't believe that JFK was dead at the time, and Marilyn Monroe was killed because of JFK. In Ancient Egypt the entreaty to the dead of the type said to be performed by Isis and Nepthys was usually performed with a hawk-fertility-goddess statue present along with other funerary symbolism.

Jacqueline Kennedy was considered "fashionable, erudite, erotic and stunningly gorgeous." Mrs. Kennedy visited an exhibition of Egyptian funerary rite symbols at the National Gallery of Art where she was photographed with a depiction of the "hawk-headed divinity that was said to be named Hor-khenty-khem." Recently there was a traveling nightmare of funerary symbolism touring the country (the Tutankhamen exhibit of the National Endowment of the Humanities).

Before JFK began his Jornada del Muerto (Journey of Death), he was photographed with Yugoslavian dictator Tito on the winding stairs in the White House. Tito is a significant name in Masonry since it was the title given to Prince Harodim, the first Judge and Provost said to be appointed by King Solomon. The Tito was a reputed favorite of Solomon, whose temple was a hotbed of thievery, money-changing, male and female prostitution and sorcery. This ancient Tito presided over the Lodge of Intendants of this temple and was one of the "twelve knights of the twelve tribes of Israel."

Let me repeat, JFK was on some winding stairs with a man named Tito. Winding stairs are symbolically important in Masonry.

The degree of the winding stair is taught in the degree of Fellow Craft. This is the Second Degree, and a person at this grade is of course a candidate for the symbolic assassination, euresis, autopsy and coffin resurrection of the Third Degree.

The number of steps in the winding stair are "odd" although no less so than the fact that this Tito or Harodim is a name translating as "those who rule over" the activities of the temple Solomon.

The winding stairs of this temple, according to the Masons, begins at the porch and winds to a level purified by the Divine Presence (Shekinah) and dominated by the Divine Strength (Oswald).

President Kennedy preceded Tito down the stairs to a portrait of the assassinated President Garfield where he was photographed, and another picture was taken on the stairs before a picture of Lincoln (recall the black walnut rocker of JFK, comparable to the black walnut rocker Lincoln was assassinated in; the "Lincoln Continental" limousine in which Kennedy was shot and the dozens of other parallels between the two men). It's unfortunate that President Kennedy didn't trip Tito and then slide down the stair-rail, for he was in a very vulnerable position as related to Masonic sorcery, and such unorthodox action might have rattled the "Prince of Harodim."

John F. Kennedy, the one and only Catholic president of the United States, was a human scapegoat, a "pharmakos." "Pharmakos" or "Pharmak-vos" can mean "enchantment with drugs and sorcery" or "beaten, crippled or immolated." In alchemy, the Killing of the King was symbolized by a crucified snake on a tau cross, a variant of the crucifixion of Jesus.

Jesus Christ was tortured and murdered as the result of the intrigue of the men of the Temple of Solomon who hated and feared Him. They were steeped in Egyptian, Babylonian and Phoenician mysticism.

Masonry does not believe in murdering a man in just any old way and in the JFK assassination it went to incredible lengths and took great risks in order to make this heinous act of theirs correspond to the ancient fertility oblation of the Killing of the King.

I have stated that the three hoboes arrested at the time of the assassination in Dallas are at least as important symbolically as operationally and that they comprise the "Three Unworthy Craftsmen" of Masonry. This symbolism is at once a telling psychological blow against the victim and his comrades, a sign of frustrated inquiry-- the supposedly senseless nature of any quest into the authentic nature of the murderers--and a mirror or doppelganger of the three assassins who execute the actual murder.

As for the three assassins themselves:

Perry Raymond Russo told a New Orleans grand jury that [CIA agent David] Ferrie said [regarding the assassination of JFK] that "there would have to be a minimum of three people involved. Two of the persons would shoot diversionary shots and the third ... shot the good shot." Ferrie said that one of the three would have to be the "scapegoat." He also said that Ferrie discoursed on the availability of exit, saying that the sacrificed man would give the other two time to escape. (Quoted by W.H. Bowart in Operation Mind Control).

The Warren Commission

Gentlemen, don't pass me by!

Don't miss your opportunity!

Inspect my wares with careful eye; I have a great variety. And yet there is nothing on my stall.

(Witch in Goethe's Faust I, Walpurgis Night)

These are the thoughts of a huckster-witch which one need not search for dressed all in black with conical cap; instead, look among the gray flannel suits in the board rooms and offices of the newspapers, electronic media, government and advertising agencies-that is, those who are not busy working for the CIA or Naval Intelligence selling the public lies.

Mason Lyndon Johnson appointed Mason Earl Warren to investigate the death of Catholic Kennedy. Mason and member of the 33rd degree, Gerald R. Ford, was instrumental in suppressing what little evidence of a conspiratorial nature reached the commission. Responsible for supplying information to the commission was Mason and member of the 33rd degree, J. Edgar Hoover. Former CIA director and Mason Allen Dulles was responsible for most of his agency's data supplied to the panel.

Is it paranoid to be suspicious of the findings of the panel on these grounds? Would it be paranoid to suspect a panel of Nazis appointed to investigate the death of a Jew or to suspect a commission of Klansmen appointed to investigate the death of a negro?

Representative Hale Boggs, the only Catholic on the commission, at first agreed with its findings and when he later began to seriously question them he was "accidentally" killed in a plane crash.

HOODWINK. (Definition.) A symbol of the secrecy, silence and darkness in which the mysteries of our art should be preserved from the unhallowed gaze of the profane."-Dr. Albert Mackey, Mason, member of the 33rd degree, foremost Masonic historian of the nineteenth century, writing in the Encyclopedia of Freemasonry.

That is how they see us, as "profane," as "cowans" (outsiders), unclean and too perverted to look upon their hallowed truths. Yes, murder, sexual atrocities, mind control, attacks against the people of the United States, all of these things are so elevated, so lofty and holy as to be beyond the view of mere humans.

Ruby

On December 20, 1947, Jacob Rubinstein changed his name to Jack L. Ruby by decree of the 68th Judicial Court of Dallas, Texas. The etymology of the term "Ruby": (French) rubis; (Spanish) rubi; (Latin) rubinus, carbuncle.

ln old law books it was once the practice to print some of the titles of the statutes in red and these were termed rubrics or a ruby and hence any fixed, formulated or authoritative injunction of duty was apt to be designated as being a rubric or ruby.

As a rubinus or carbuncle Ruby is associated with the "Breastplate of Judgment" used by the Chosen Mispet (High Priests) of Jewish sorcery, enabling them to receive "divine" answers regarding the welfare of Judaism; some interpretations claim that the "Breastplate of Judgment" manifested the immediate presence of Jehovah and was also worn by Masons in Royal Arch chapters.

This "breastplate [which] contained twelve stones" each symbolized one of the twelve tribes of Israel. The carbuncle or ruby was connected to the tribe of Judah (Nohpech).

The term "Jack Ruby" was once used by pawnbrokers to indicated a fake ruby.

In iconography a ruby or carbuncle symbolizes blood, suffering and death.

Truth or Consequences

District Attorney for New Orleans, James Garrison, was supported by a "Truth or Consequences" Club and is alleged to have been an ex-FBI agent and to have been mentally disturbed at one time. Jim Garrison was an outsider in the Secret Society machinations of the FBI and may very well have been pharmacologically or hypnotically induced to set up his ill-fated investigation and the position he acquired in the "Truth or Consequences Commission."

Truth or Consequences, New Mexico, is a town located on the 33rd degree of parallel latitude, and near the same latitude John Fitzgerald Kennedy became an oblation and on the same latitude is the chief Temple on this planet in the minds of sorcerers, namely the Temple of Solomon at Jerusalem, which was once located there and is sworn to be rebuilt on this 33rd degree.

In a literal, alchemical sense, the Making Manifest of All That is Hidden is the accomplishment of the 3rd Law of the Alchemists and is, as yet, unfulfilled or at least not completed; the other two have been: the creation and destruction of primordial mater (the detonation of the first Atomic Bomb at the Trinity Site, at White Sands, New Mexico, on the 33rd degree of parallel), the Killing of the King (at the Trinity Site, at Dealey Plaza, Dallas, near the 33rd degree of latitude).

Only the repetition of information presented in conjunction with knowledge of this mechanism of Making Manifest of All That is Hidden provides the sort of boldness and will which can demonstrate that we are aware of all the enemies, all the opponents, all the tricks and gadgetry, and yet we are still not dissuaded, that we work for the truth for the sake of the truth. Let the rest take upon themselves and their children the consequences of their actions.

--James Shelby Downard with Michael A. Hoffman II

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Ganjasaurusrex
12-19-2005, 06:07 AM
George Bush senior and Bush Jr. are both free masons. Watched it on the history channel.

Apparently from what I saw on the tube part of the initiation is to tell your first sexual experiences to the free mason group which can be a large crowd which you address at a podium.

My Grandfather was a free mason. He said these are the groups that actually run this country . He wouldnt talk too much about it though because he says it is a secret society and they are sworn to secrecy about certain things and loyalty is paramount.

CocaCola
12-19-2005, 06:29 AM
Doesn't anyone else find it extremely fucked up that we have a secret society running the country?

thcbongman
12-19-2005, 11:21 AM
Click here for insight. http://www.freedomdomain.com/freemason.html
If you don't beleive that's exactly what we want you to beleive.

Washington D.C. was built by Freemasons (Iluminati) as you can see in the diagram below.

No wonder why the traffic is so fucked up.

Worst designed city in the world. You can turn on one street and have no clue where you are going because all the directions are scattered and awkward.

Trichome Creator
12-19-2005, 02:05 PM
Doesn't anyone else find it extremely fucked up that we have a secret society running the country?

:) :) :)

Trichome Creator
12-19-2005, 02:06 PM
No wonder why the traffic is so fucked up.

Worst designed city in the world. You can turn on one street and have no clue where you are going because all the directions are scattered and awkward.

Everything in DC is in a square pattern.

Trichome Creator
12-19-2005, 02:14 PM
Excellent post Eg420ne. Good to see some intelligent minds out there. You too Harvesthetic.

Trichome Creator
12-19-2005, 03:00 PM
I see you Scobbie!

Trichome Creator
12-19-2005, 03:01 PM
Doesn't anyone else find it extremely fucked up that we have a secret society running the country?

Try the world.

UnViaje
12-19-2005, 03:13 PM
Thanks trichome, i keep tellin people but you know how tha majority is, nice posting
from an intriguing site...
secret societies (http://www.returnofthenephilim.com/SecretSocieties.html)

Trichome Creator
12-19-2005, 03:17 PM
Thanks trichome, i keep tellin people but you know how tha majority is, nice posting

No problem. Did you see the pentagram on the back of the dollar bill? Or the owl? There is also the two seals of doom I will discuss that shortly.

UnViaje
12-19-2005, 03:18 PM
yeah, theres a shitload of info on a bunch of related stuff at the link i edited in

Trichome Creator
12-19-2005, 03:24 PM
Here is some data for you who do not beleive. In this image I will show you how the mark of the beast is imprinted on our currency.

666

Trichome Creator
12-19-2005, 03:25 PM
This is the standard freemason greeting.

Trichome Creator
12-19-2005, 03:26 PM
The owl watching in our currency.

Trichome Creator
12-19-2005, 03:27 PM
The first seal of doom.

UnViaje
12-19-2005, 03:31 PM
yeah, i've seen most of those pix but keep em comin.
swear man, its all in tha eyes, so when tha fukk has anyone seen dubya with an emphatic or at least sympathetic expression ever, illuminati bastud

Trichome Creator
12-19-2005, 03:35 PM
The two seals of doom superimposed reflect man invading the heavens.

scobbie
12-19-2005, 03:43 PM
top thread guys i read a lot about conspirisy theories and masons im into the freemasons involvement in organized crime in the usa and uk just now top topic keep it up

Trichome Creator
12-19-2005, 03:44 PM
Typical Masonic Lodge seal which is over the door of EVERY masonic lodge.
Note the closeness in resemblance with artwork on the dollar.

Trichome Creator
12-19-2005, 03:45 PM
Two seals connected in motion.

Trichome Creator
12-19-2005, 03:48 PM
The second seal pentagram.

Trichome Creator
12-19-2005, 03:53 PM
The first american eagle was actually a phoenix and then transformed into rebirth. Exactly the goal of the freemason society. A phoenix when dying burned to ashes only to be rborn from the flames. This is representing the death of the old goverment and the birth of a new one.

Trichome Creator
12-19-2005, 03:59 PM
You all know 13 is a very unlucky number. this number 13 is a satanic number. This is the reason that tall old buildings such as the empire state building have no 13th floor. Now on the back of the dollar bill view the pyramid as a triangle. Now you will form the other triangle with its three points aimed at all images in the seal that count to thirteen. 13 leaves on the olive branch,13 arrows in the eagles claw and 13 stars. See below.

Trichome Creator
12-19-2005, 04:00 PM
And there you have it. A more in depth view can be found here.
http://holywar.org/txt/dollar.html

Escher
12-19-2005, 04:04 PM
You all know 13 is a very unlucky number. this number 13 is a satanic number. This is the reason that tall old buildings such as the empire state building have no 13th floor. Now on the back of the dollar bill view the pyramid as a triangle. Now you will form the other triangle with its three points aimed at all images in the seal that count to thirteen. 13 leaves on the olive branch,13 arrows in the eagles claw and 13 stars. See below.
it's stupid to say 13 is a satanic number.

Trichome Creator
12-19-2005, 04:10 PM
:
13 stars above the eagle
13 steps on the Pyramid
13 letters in ANNUIT COEPTIS
13 letters in E PLURIBUS UNUM
13 bars on the shield
13 leaves on the olive branch
13 fruits
13 arrows

Coinidence my ass.

Trichome Creator
12-19-2005, 04:11 PM
Ultima Cumaei venit iam carminis aetas;
magnus ab integro saeclorum nascitur ordo.
iam redit et Virgo, redeunt Saturnia regna,
iam nova progenies caelo demittitur alto.

Trichome Creator
12-19-2005, 04:16 PM
it's stupid to say 13 is a satanic number.

It is linked to there being 13 people at the last supper.

Trichome Creator
12-19-2005, 04:20 PM
More symbols on the dollar resembling scottish rite.

http://www.gemworld.com/US-Symbol-1dol.html

Escher
12-19-2005, 04:26 PM
It is linked to there being 13 people at the last supper.
and that makes it satanic? whatever man...

Trichome Creator
12-19-2005, 04:26 PM
When the 20 dollar bill is folded you can see the pentagon burning.

UnViaje
12-19-2005, 04:26 PM
Secret Societies (http://www.returnofthenephilim.com/SecretSocieties.html)
trippd out site

Trichome Creator
12-19-2005, 04:27 PM
when folded in this form the twin towers are burning.

UnViaje
12-19-2005, 04:27 PM
^^also the twin towers if folded differently
now thats too coincidental
lmao, nm

Trichome Creator
12-19-2005, 04:29 PM
Ranks of the mason and illuminati brotherhood.

Trichome Creator
12-19-2005, 04:31 PM
Osama on the twenty.

Trichome Creator
12-19-2005, 04:35 PM
the 5 dollar bill represents before the destruction

scobbie
12-19-2005, 04:36 PM
A very bright, previously unknown comet will appear and coincide with the time of great geological troubles, with earthquakes and volcanoes erupting and disrupting weather systems. This will cause widespread famines and droughts, and social upheavals in unexpected places. Nations that are considered prosperous and powerful, particularly western nations, will be weakened. They will be torn with civil strife and rioting as people migrate to areas that have water and can support crop-growing. The social upheaval and weakening of political structures will help the Antichrist come to power.

A great and rich power will be subject to serious natural disasters, particularly earthquakes and flooding, and rend the nation from end to end, causing enormous conflict, despair, and misery. The wealthy power will be bankrupted attempting to deal with its disasters. Three other great nations will send aid to help the citizens survive.

(Century VIII, Quatrain 29) nostradamus 2006 to 2012

UnViaje
12-19-2005, 04:40 PM
badazz nostradamus post. pretty sure when shit goes down here muhfukkrz ironicaaly gonna go south like that scene in that movie the day after tomorrow, bastudz

Trichome Creator
12-19-2005, 04:41 PM
The freemasons hall in london england.

Trichome Creator
12-19-2005, 04:49 PM
Two pentagrams pointing to megalithic structures such as the great pyramid and babel.

Trichome Creator
12-19-2005, 04:51 PM
Military power. The Pentagon.

Trichome Creator
12-19-2005, 04:55 PM
One egyptain monolith before the eye.

Trichome Creator
12-19-2005, 04:59 PM
One of many states freemason plates.

Trichome Creator
12-19-2005, 05:01 PM
The ranks of the masons. Once you reach the 33rd degree you are transformed into an illuminati.

Trichome Creator
12-19-2005, 05:04 PM
Aleister Crowley

Trichome Creator
12-19-2005, 05:08 PM
Various skulls kept in the freemasons main lodge.

Trichome Creator
12-19-2005, 05:11 PM
Another freemason symbol. Right along with american presidents.

Trichome Creator
12-19-2005, 05:32 PM
This bible is very different than the one you know.

Trichome Creator
12-19-2005, 05:36 PM
Freemason security weapon

Trichome Creator
12-19-2005, 05:37 PM
If you want more pics and info let me know.

Harvesthetic
12-19-2005, 05:40 PM
TOP THREADING TRICHOME!!!!

STATUE FOR YOU MY FRIEND

this is what people should consider as evidence.
I personally thought, oh well it ain't worth posting 'em all. But you did it! Great work man, check out aaaall the documentaries available ;) LEARN!!

Unviaje, i'm sorry i had the wrong picture of you. So there is a way to say fuck ALL the time and still be a respectable person :thumbsup:!!

WE WILL PREVAIL!!!

Trichome Creator
12-19-2005, 05:44 PM
TOP THREADING TRICHOME!!!!

STATUE FOR YOU MY FRIEND

this is what people should consider as evidence.
I personally thought, oh well it ain't worth posting 'em all. But you did it! Great work man, check out aaaall the documentaries available ;) LEARN!!

Unviaje, i'm sorry i had the wrong picture of you. So there is a way to say fuck ALL the time and still be a respectable person :thumbsup:!!

WE WILL PREVAIL!!!

Oh I was just starting brother. But I don't want to say too much.

Trichome Creator
12-19-2005, 05:46 PM
TOP THREADING TRICHOME!!!!

STATUE FOR YOU MY FRIEND

this is what people should consider as evidence.
I personally thought, oh well it ain't worth posting 'em all. But you did it! Great work man, check out aaaall the documentaries available ;) LEARN!!

Unviaje, i'm sorry i had the wrong picture of you. So there is a way to say fuck ALL the time and still be a respectable person :thumbsup:!!

WE WILL PREVAIL!!!

It's too late for those who oppose the order to change what is now unfolding. No one ever had a chance.

Harvesthetic
12-19-2005, 05:46 PM
Yeah watch out a bit, but this is the type of evidence that makes people think.
At least you sparked some mistrust toward the government, and that's enough ;)

After this, start checking the judges put in place by Dubya.

@ Secret Service:CUM GET US, INDOCTRINATED PUPPETS

Harvesthetic
12-19-2005, 05:47 PM
It's too late for those who oppose the order to change what is now unfolding. No one ever had a chance.
That's touchingly accurate...

Trichome Creator
12-19-2005, 05:48 PM
I think I'm scaring people. The truth hurts does'nt it?

Escher
12-19-2005, 05:51 PM
oh yea man im sitting here worried about the guy that smoked 13 blunts man, you know, 13 being a satanic number and all

Trichome Creator
12-19-2005, 05:53 PM
oh yea man im sitting here worried about the guy that smoked 13 blunts man, you know, 13 being a satanic number and all
Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened.

UnViaje
12-19-2005, 05:55 PM
yeah tri, u killin em, smackn these fools upside the head. fukkn subserviant brainwashed dumbasses.

Escher
12-19-2005, 05:57 PM
oh yea man :rolleyes:

Trichome Creator
12-19-2005, 05:59 PM
yeah tri, u killin em, smackn these fools upside the head. fukkn subserviant brainwashed dumbasses.

Well if you look at most people you seem the same ting over and over again. One person says something true or not and everyone else copies what they said. The majority are drones that do what they are told and then there are the free thinkers. On the other hand they shy away from the unknown. It is proven that the dollar bill has multiple satanic images all over it. It's just hidden and you have to look for it. But people here think I'm crazy when I have provided the proof for them to see.

When you break the mold of normalcy only then will you see the truth.

UnViaje
12-19-2005, 05:59 PM
^^yeah yeah, just like that :thumbsup:
prime example

UnViaje
12-19-2005, 06:04 PM
Well if you look at most people you seem the same ting over and over again. One person says something true or not and everyone else copies what they said. The majority are drones that do what they are told and then there are the free thinkers. On the other hand they shy away from the unknown. It is proven that the dollar bill has multiple satanic images all over it. It's just hidden and you have to look for it. But people here think I'm crazy when I have provided the proof for them to see.

When you break the mold of normalcy only then will you see the truth.

i see where u at man, i'm just glad i caught on at all a couple years back. i was always wondering when it became a prerequisite to be a member of skull n bones just to run for president. fukkd up shit.

Trichome Creator
12-19-2005, 06:06 PM
For those intrested here is a film that touches the surface on freemasonry.
http://www.apple.com/trailers/sony_pictures/da_vinci_code/hd/

Az.
12-19-2005, 06:13 PM
i'd love to know more about all this....but everytime i work somthing out it referes to about 10 other things that I have NO idea about....so I give up on this thread for the second time!....I gave up going to secret clubs when I was about 8....i belive knowledge should be shared for evereyone to thrive off.....

Trichome Creator
12-19-2005, 06:30 PM
Woo damn my fingers are sore.

Trichome Creator
12-19-2005, 06:47 PM
Secret Societies (http://www.returnofthenephilim.com/SecretSocieties.html)
trippd out site

Seems they just covered up your findings 15 minutes ago UnViaje.

CaptnMark
12-19-2005, 06:53 PM
G-d gives man dominion over all animals, trees and HERBS. Thank G-d everyday that we have herbs.... if anyone wants a tokin' buddy, email me.
shalom,
[email protected]

litespeed
12-19-2005, 08:23 PM
The one I liked was when Franklin D. Roosevelt told them to open the money up, in the depression and if they did not he would counterfeit all uas money. and it open up...

Trichome Creator
12-19-2005, 08:32 PM
Briefly, the background of the Bavarian Illuminati puzzle is this. On May 1, 1776, in Bavaria, Dr. Adam Weishaupt, a professor of Canon Law at Ingolstadt University and a former Jesuit, formed a secret society called the Order of the Illuminati within the existing Masonic lodges of Germany. Since Masonry is itself a secret society, the Illuminati was a secret society within a secret society, a mystery inside a mystery, so to say. In 1785 the Illuminati were suppressed by the Bavarian government for allegedly plotting to overthrow all the kings in Europe and the Pope to boot. This much is generally agreed upon by all historians. 1 Everything else is a matter of heated, and sometimes fetid, controversy.

It has been claimed that Dr. Weishaupt was an atheist, a Cabalistic magician, a rationalist, a mystic; a democrat, a socialist, an anarchist, a fascist; a Machiavellian amoralist, an alchemist, a totalitarian and an "enthusiastic philanthropist." (The last was the verdict of Thomas Jefferson, by the way.) The Illuminati have also been credited with managing the French and American revolutions behind the scenes, taking over the world, being the brains behind Communism, continuing underground up to the 1970s, secretly worshipping the Devil, and mopery with intent to gawk. Some claim that Weishaupt didn't even invent the Illuminati, but only revived it. The Order of Illuminati has been traced back to the Knights Templar, to the Greek and Gnostic initiatory cults, to Egypt, even to Atlantis. The one safe generalization one can make is that Weishaupt's intent to maintain secrecy has worked; no two students of Illuminology have ever agreed totally about what the "inner secret" or purpose of the Order actually was (or is . . .). There is endless room for spooky speculation, and for pedantic paranoia, once one really gets into the literature of the subject; and there has been a wave of sensational "ex-poses" of the Illuminati every generation since 1776. If you were to believe all this sensational literature, the damned Bavarian conspirators were responsible for everything wrong with the world, including the energy crises and the fact that you can't even get a plumber on weekends.

Trichome Creator
12-19-2005, 10:35 PM
An Unbroken Code
There exists a chapel in Great Britain that contains a ceiling from which hundreds of stone blocks protrude, jutting down to form a bizarre multi-faceted surface. Each block is carved with a symbol, seemingly at random, creating a cipher of unfathomable proportion. Modern cryptographers have never been able to break this code, and a generous reward is offered to anyone who can decipher the baffling message. In recent years, geological ultrasounds have revealed the startling presence of an enormous subterranean vault hidden beneath the chapel. This vault appears to have no entrance and no exit. To this day, the curators of the chapel have permitted no excavation.

Trichome Creator
12-19-2005, 10:42 PM
Da Vinci's original commission for his famous Madonna of the Rocks came from an organization known as the Confraternity of the Immaculate Conception, which needed a painting for the centerpiece of an altar triptych in their church of San Francesco Grand in Milan. The nuns gave Leonardo specific dimensions and a desired themeâ??the Virgin Mary, baby John The Baptist, Uriel, and Baby Jesus sheltering in a cave. Although Da Vinci did as they requested, when he delivered the work, the group reacted with horror. The painting contained several disturbing "un-Christian" anomalies, which seemed to convey a hidden message and alternative meaning. Da Vinci eventually mollified the confraternity by painting them a second version of Madonna of the Rocks, which now hangs in London's National Gallery under the name Virgin of the Rocks. Da Vinci's original hangs at the Louvre in Paris.

Trichome Creator
12-19-2005, 11:37 PM
Freemason's in uniform.

Trichome Creator
12-19-2005, 11:44 PM
Masonic jewelry.

Az.
12-20-2005, 12:00 AM
Da Vinci's original commission for his famous Madonna of the Rocks came from an organization known as the Confraternity of the Immaculate Conception, which needed a painting for the centerpiece of an altar triptych in their church of San Francesco Grand in Milan. The nuns gave Leonardo specific dimensions and a desired themeâ??the Virgin Mary, baby John The Baptist, Uriel, and Baby Jesus sheltering in a cave. Although Da Vinci did as they requested, when he delivered the work, the group reacted with horror. The painting contained several disturbing "un-Christian" anomalies, which seemed to convey a hidden message and alternative meaning. Da Vinci eventually mollified the confraternity by painting them a second version of Madonna of the Rocks, which now hangs in London's National Gallery under the name Virgin of the Rocks. Da Vinci's original hangs at the Louvre in Paris.

I just read into that a little bit and thats some weird shit....

Trichome Creator
12-20-2005, 12:05 AM
bush is not a free mason------all bushes belong to skulls and crossbones, and they produced more presidents than the freemasons so far. in order to get into the skull and crossbones you have to goto yale.
i agree the freemasons are scary, but if you look at goverment jobs they all belong to some type of club like this. there is also the templers but there not that big

Skull and Crossbones are the freemasons silly and the templars are the Knight's Templars which is a freemason rank. But oh well I guess you know more than me. :D
http://www.crystalinks.com/skullsidon.html

Three Main Divisions
Skull & Crossbones
Order Of The Wolf's Head
Scale & Compass

Trichome Creator
12-20-2005, 12:29 AM
Let me get off this shit. Unless you all want more. Oh I've got plenty more.

litespeed
12-20-2005, 06:30 AM
Trichome Creator:
Do you know the home planets origin? dose it tell you!
;)

tylerkane
12-20-2005, 06:34 AM
Loch Ness Monster is real

Trichome Creator
12-20-2005, 08:39 AM
Trichome Creator:
Do you know the home planets origin? dose it tell you!
;)

The Klingons around Uranus. :dance:

Strikerrr
12-20-2005, 09:13 AM
yo more. please. this shit is furious.

Trichome Creator
12-20-2005, 09:15 AM
yo more. please. this shit is furious.

$20 dollar bill is scary isn't it? I'll post up more tomorrow it's like 4am here.

emg
12-20-2005, 09:16 AM
$20 dollar bill is scary isn't it? I'll post up more tomorrow it's like 4am here.

are you talkin' about how you fold it a certain way and it looks like the twin towers burnin up?

yeah, my friend showed that to me and i was a little freaked out.

Trichome Creator
12-20-2005, 09:19 AM
are you talkin' about how you fold it a certain way and it looks like the twin towers burnin up?

yeah, my friend showed that to me and i was a little freaked out.
http://www.illuminati-news.com/20-dollar-bill.htm

Strikerrr
12-20-2005, 09:23 AM
It's four here too and I have a dollar bill on my comp desk. and attempting to fold it into a square and triangle. this shit is amazing me this late at night. I can't sleep because of it. I'm not even high.

emg
12-20-2005, 09:23 AM
http://www.illuminati-news.com/20-dollar-bill.htm

illuminati...crazy bastards

Trichome Creator
12-20-2005, 09:24 AM
It's four here too and I have a dollar bill on my comp desk. and attempting to fold it into a square and triangle. this shit is amazing me this late at night. I can't sleep because of it. I'm not even high.

You can only fold the $20. As for the $1 dollar it shows the seals of doom.

Trichome Creator
12-20-2005, 09:26 AM
This should hold you over till I get back.
http://www.conspiracyarchive.com

emg
12-20-2005, 09:28 AM
i just don't understand why some people get so bent outta shape when others talk about this.

Strikerrr
12-20-2005, 09:29 AM
cause it's nuts. I never heard of anything like this. IDK I think it's cause I'm sober.

emg
12-20-2005, 09:33 AM
cause it's nuts. I never heard of anything like this. IDK I think it's cause I'm sober.

really? i guess many haven't. if you want to read another book, it's called 'Behold a Pale Horse' by William Cooper. he talks about conspiracy theories and the direction the united states is taking...too bad though, he was murdered 4 years ago.

Trichome Creator
12-20-2005, 09:34 AM
really? i guess many haven't. if you want to read another book, it's called 'Behold a Pale Horse' by William Cooper. he talks about conspiracy theories and the direction the united states is taking...too bad though, he was murdered 4 years ago.

Take a guess on who murdered him? :)

emg
12-20-2005, 09:35 AM
Take a guess on who murdered him? :)


this is a wild guess, but government agents tracked him down and blasted him. soo sad

Strikerrr
12-20-2005, 09:36 AM
Take a guess on who murdered him? :)

Was it some free ass masons?

Trichome Creator
12-20-2005, 09:36 AM
this is a wild guess, but government agents tracked him down and blasted him. soo sad

Close.

emg
12-20-2005, 09:37 AM
Close.

yeah, i really have no idea how he died...i went to his website and it just says he was killed.

Trichome Creator
12-20-2005, 09:37 AM
One of the first to begin exposing the Government for what it truly is,
William Cooper was killed by authorities on 11/5/2001.

Trichome Creator
12-20-2005, 09:39 AM
http://www.rense.com/general16/coop.htm

SWAT to be exact.

emg
12-20-2005, 09:42 AM
http://www.rense.com/general16/coop.htm

SWAT to be exact.

damn, that guy was a true hero....that's why i'm skeptical of others who write books about this stuff, but this guy was actually gunned down.

Trichome Creator
12-20-2005, 09:44 AM
Goverment=Freemasons=Illuminati
Very simple actually.

emg
12-20-2005, 09:45 AM
Goverment=Freemasons=Illuminati
Very simple actually.

oh yes, i agree...i started reading about this stuff back in 1999. people thought i was crazy...i'm just glad some people are finally realizing the truth.

Trichome Creator
12-20-2005, 09:47 AM
oh yes, i agree...i started reading about this stuff back in 1999. people thought i was crazy...i'm just glad some people are finally realizing the truth.

Yeah I've been into it since the early 1990's myself.

Trichome Creator
12-20-2005, 09:48 AM
I think Strikerrr is freaked out.

emg
12-20-2005, 09:49 AM
I think Strikerrr is freaked out.

that's what happens...LOL! it's like being introduced into a new world and everything you thought you knew doesn't mean shit anymore.

CocaCola
12-20-2005, 09:57 AM
You could play a video showing what all this information and other info you can gather... on big screen... big enough for everyone in the US to see... and STILL nothing would change.

I don't like being controlled, mo' fucka!

emg
12-20-2005, 10:01 AM
You could play a video showing what all this information and other info you can gather... on big screen... big enough for everyone in the US to see... and STILL nothing would change.

I don't like being controlled, mo' fucka!

Science may have found a cure for most evils; but it has found no remedy for the worst of them all -- the apathy of human beings. - Helen Keller

Zohar
12-20-2005, 03:48 PM
Anything is everything if you want it to be.

Strikerrr
12-20-2005, 05:25 PM
LOL I'm not freaked yo. I was just tired from working all day and it was mad interesting. I'm still interested. and shit it's mad ridiculous that the gov't/world lies so hardcore. well not even lies but keeps such big secrets. Fuck them. I'm getting in the shower.

Caruso329
12-20-2005, 06:37 PM
Well I am proud to say I just spent over an hour reading through all nine pages of this thread and looking at all the diagrams, pictures, and off site links. I'm convinced is all I'll say. But I did find something very interesting while digging around that you haven't posted a direct link to Trichome, so I will.

http://www.returnofthenephilim.com/FreemasonryFirstDegree-1.html

If you scroll far enough down you can read pretty much word for word the entire Initiation Ritual for the Free Masons. Also, I "imagine" I figured out something SloppyJoe said that he was hoping the free thinkers (which I claim to be one) would catch on to. I won't spoil it by posting it though, just take a look through all his posts and read between the lines.

Trichome, I was wondering if you could elaborate a little more on the freemason's views of NON masons. I am wondering about this because after reading through what I assume to be a copy of the ceremony I came across this:

"Furthermore: I do promise and swear that I will not have illicit carnal intercourse with a Master Masonâ??s wife, widow, mother, sister or daughter, nor suffer it to be done by another if in my power to prevent.

Question. What about not having illicit carnal intercourse with a NON Mason's wife, widow, mother, sister, or daughter?

Question. What about not having illicit carnal intercourse with a Master Masons SON?"

Can you elaborate on these principles any?
I think I know the beginnings of the answer the the last question, but I don't know if I should spoil it for people or not.. :)





p.s. I hid a message somewhere in this reply, its not too hard to find if you try.






Question. But doesn't Freemasonry claim to be responsible for the concepts of Freedom of Conscience, Equality, Liberty, and Justice?

Comment. Another Masonism it seems. Up is down and down is up.

UnViaje
12-20-2005, 06:40 PM
glad you checked out the link dude, crayz shit.

Trichome Creator
12-20-2005, 10:26 PM
Always Watching.

Caruso329
12-20-2005, 11:32 PM
Understood.

smokey
12-21-2005, 07:47 AM
First i ever heard of it all was watching National Treasure lol
its all bollocks just like every other religion out there
except jedi of course hehehehehehe

drboots13
12-21-2005, 07:58 AM
you guys are loser. ever heard of the movie "the wave". its just wanting to be apart of something thats bigger then yourself. a "cause"

lardman
12-21-2005, 08:11 AM
FUCKING HELL!!! That is a very long fucking thread. :D I love freemasons, they are pretty cool, even though i dont know exactly what they did. But they have, and still do i believe, use Alchemy. Anyone heard of it? Its pretty awesome, im going to try and become and Alchemist.

Oh someone, i think Coca Cola, or whateerver was saying u need to believe in a God to join. No you don't. "atheists and agnostics are unreservedly accepted in lodges working in the Continental tradition" ........unreservably.......

I think i want to be a freemason... lol... i have a feeling im really going to get into this stuff.

after all, my name is Mason


lol that would be great, Mason the FreeMason....

:D:dance::D

CocaCola
12-21-2005, 06:11 PM
I read you need to believe in some supreme being... but yeah, sorry for not meantioning the fact that there is Continental tradition!1 There are so many...

but give me a break, I wasn't reffering to any other branches, I was talking about the mina branch. Whatever that is...

Trichome Creator
12-22-2005, 12:03 AM
It runs alot deeper than what you all think.

CocaCola
12-22-2005, 12:12 AM
No, I have an idea of how deep it can possible be... US politics...

Trichome Creator
12-22-2005, 12:14 AM
No, I have an idea of how deep it can possible be... US politics...

Major Power World Politics.

daZenfmeister
12-22-2005, 12:16 AM
So, are you running for president? Because that's what i got from that.


No but I'm a leader, and a sneaky one. For one thing, if I set my mind to do something then I can do it. Also all this new world order shit is pissing me off something bad! Think, what has history taught us? Did Hitler succeed in conquering the world? No. And he was one smart motherfucker. No matter what in this world that we live in there is always an equal and opposite force to every leader, organization and turd in the toilet.

So if you think you can run the world with an iron fist, well you're wrong. (I dont even know if thats what you're implying but damn it sounds like it)

Anyways I'm tired and my back hurts so im gonna go take a nap. Have fun running the world.

CocaCola
12-22-2005, 12:48 AM
Major Power World Politics.
Yes, what US leaders are in control of... Or are you saying that the Illuminati started somewhere else?

Trichome Creator
12-22-2005, 12:52 AM
Yes, what US leaders are in control of... Or are you saying that the Illuminati started somewhere else?

They started somewhere else. Freemason teachings were brought to america by the english. Stonehenge,pyramids,alantis,babylon all freemason.

CocaCola
12-22-2005, 12:59 AM
Interesting. That's fucked up then... how can you trust 'em?

Caruso329
12-22-2005, 04:11 AM
So apparently Atlantis does exist.
Also I started playing Risk the other day, and when you attack you can use up to 3 dice. If you roll all 3 dice to attack, the strongest attack, since you have more chances of winning, the best possible roll is 6 6 6.
Did a Free Mason invent Risk?

Trichome Creator
12-22-2005, 04:12 AM
So apparently Atlantis does exist.
Also I started playing Risk the other day, and when you attack you can use up to 3 dice. If you roll all 3 dice to attack, the strongest attack, since you have more chances of winning, the best possible roll is 6 6 6.
Did a Free Mason invent Risk?
I doubt it.

emg
12-22-2005, 04:14 AM
No but I'm a leader, and a sneaky one. For one thing, if I set my mind to do something then I can do it. Also all this new world order shit is pissing me off something bad! Think, what has history taught us? Did Hitler succeed in conquering the world? No. And he was one smart motherfucker. No matter what in this world that we live in there is always an equal and opposite force to every leader, organization and turd in the toilet.

So if you think you can run the world with an iron fist, well you're wrong. (I dont even know if thats what you're implying but damn it sounds like it)

Anyways I'm tired and my back hurts so im gonna go take a nap. Have fun running the world.

ha! hitler wasn't smart, he was a puppet, just like george bush...

Trichome Creator
12-22-2005, 04:15 AM
http://www.atlantisdiscovered.org/Home.htm

Caruso329
12-22-2005, 04:22 AM
I doubt it.
Okay that's cool, I'm just thinking about this shit all the time now.

Caruso329
12-22-2005, 04:37 AM
I applied for the expedition. ":cool:

Brittoker
12-22-2005, 01:48 PM
Just talking to my grandad on this, he said that my great grandad was a provincial Grand master in canada and was personal friends of the royal family, and that all people on his side of the family were freemasons untill he broke the link.

king kong bong
12-24-2005, 12:26 PM
tri i saw you posted a pic of the masonic jewelry but you didnt have the colored ball rings. why not?

Trichome Creator
12-26-2005, 12:52 PM
You thought this thread was over did'nt you?

king kong bong
12-26-2005, 12:56 PM
of course not, not with people like me still around.